Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
Someone should actually click on the link suggested below and explain to Mr. Gabe Menezes the difference between an article and a response to an article, so that we can be spared from his daily attempts to embarrass himself. --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20/02/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RESPONSE: Why do you visit ''Al Jazeera'' and post on the site? Isn't that giving credence to that News Organization? Preacher practice what you preach. Mario responds: This is a falsehood that Gabe has repeated in the past. I do not read Al Jazeera, and consider it to be a propaganda arm of the Islamo-fascists RESPONSE: Readers following this may want to test the veracity of Mario Goveia...please click on to the 'Al Jazeera' URL shown below and presto there is an article by one Mario Goveia! http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0824B2D0-2B70-4317-854A-287AD5CAEBA1.htm -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
On 21/02/06, cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe I did find Mario Goveia's small piece in Al Jazeera. Thanks. But did he put it there or has somebody else put it in there for him? I must say that my instinctive unease over Internet material gets heightened continously. The problem is that the matter of authenticity on the Net is highly problematic. Cornel RESPONSE: Well my posting has been in circulation now for over 24 hours and Mario has not denied it! He has been caught with his pants down. If it is another Mario Goveia from USA, with the same intent, who writes and reads Al Jazeera and who is a Republican card bearer. Mario should shout out 'it's not me and not what I would express.' -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSON ANI BOREM MOG KHOR! Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
Gabe I did find Mario Goveia's small piece in Al Jazeera. Thanks. But did he put it there or has somebody else put it in there for him? I must say that my instinctive unease over Internet material gets heightened continously. The problem is that the matter of authenticity on the Net is highly problematic. Cornel - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter On 20/02/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RESPONSE: Why do you visit ''Al Jazeera'' and post on the site? Isn't that giving credence to that News Organization? Preacher practice what you preach. Mario responds: This is a falsehood that Gabe has repeated in the past. I do not read Al Jazeera, and consider it to be a propaganda arm of the Islamo-fascists RESPONSE: Readers following this may want to test the veracity of Mario Goveia...please click on to the 'Al Jazeera' URL shown below and presto there is an article by one Mario Goveia! http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0824B2D0-2B70-4317-854A-287AD5CAEBA1.htm -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
On 20/02/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RESPONSE: Why do you visit ''Al Jazeera'' and post on the site? Isn't that giving credence to that News Organization? Preacher practice what you preach. Mario responds: This is a falsehood that Gabe has repeated in the past. I do not read Al Jazeera, and consider it to be a propaganda arm of the Islamo-fascists RESPONSE: Readers following this may want to test the veracity of Mario Goveia...please click on to the 'Al Jazeera' URL shown below and presto there is an article by one Mario Goveia! http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0824B2D0-2B70-4317-854A-287AD5CAEBA1.htm -- Peace be with you! Ani borem mog khor! Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/02/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, why did YOU go looking for these cartoons? Isn't it such prurient curiosity that is fanning the flames here? RESPONSE: Why do you visit ''Al Jazeera'' and post on the site? Isn't that giving credence to that News Organization? Preacher practice what you preach. Mario responds: This is a falsehood that Gabe has repeated in the past. I do not read Al Jazeera, and consider it to be a propaganda arm of the Islamo-fascists Al Jazeera has been given credibility by people like Gabe, who circulates articles that they publish. What I did was to rebutt the absurd allegations of one Scott Ritter, whose column was forwarded to me, and who claimed that Saddam Hussain had no WMDs. It happened to be an article that was on Al Jazeera.
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
On 17/02/06, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, why did YOU go looking for these cartoons? Isn't it such prurient curiosity that is fanning the flames here? RESPONSE: Why do you visit ''Al Jazeera'' and post on the site? Isn't that giving credence to that News Organization? Preacher practice what you preach. -- Peace be with you! Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
Gilbert, Though the Danish cartoons were gratuitous and despicable - but hardly comparable to similar attacks on Christianity, like crosses in bottles of urine, that draw no worldwide violence - the reaction of the Muslim radicals against everything western, including attacking the US which had nothing to do with these cartoons, shows that they don't need much to light their fuses. Other examples of over-the-top reactions are the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, the violent intifadah simply because Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount, and Osama declaring war on the US at the height of Bill Clinton's appeasement oriented administration. BTW, why did YOU go looking for these cartoons? Isn't it such prurient curiosity that is fanning the flames here? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Carsten Juste, (Editor of the newspaper that published the controversial cartoons.) I read with interest your letter on your web page about the No Holocaust cartoons. I saw the interview that your cultural editor, Rose Flemming, gave to CNN where he offered to establish contact with the Iranian paper and then publish defamatory cartoons about Jewish and Christian faiths to balance the cartoons on Mohamed and Islam. I also saw the interview of your Prime Minister on CNN. Here are my thoughts. My wife and I would love to write a story on this whole saga from a Danish perspective, from a Muslim perspective and an American perspective. The title of the book would be OOPS. I still cannot understand how a nice small peaceful Scandinavian country like Denmark, which never had any third world colony, could be the center of an international North-South controversy. I cannot believe that you appointed Flemming Rose as a cultural editor of your newspaper. What were you thinking? In hindsight, this was the first OOPS of the whole saga. Then you allowed your newspaper to publish your tasteless media stunt, which of course was repeated by a few other newspapers in a few other countries. This shows that a few newspaper editors also love stunts, to perhaps increase their circulation. Congratulation on your decisions not to publish any more tasteless media stunts from your past published library or from Iranian papers. In pursuit of the whole story, I checked your web site (where I saw your letter) hoping to see the cartoons; which are at the center of this international controversy. Unfortunately I did not find any. Hmm, I wonder why? Mr. Rose during his current leave, should be made to read the book How to win friends and influence people. I cannot understand how a discussion of sketches on Mohamed for a children's book becomes a caricature contest for a newspaper. Then perhaps your lack of knowledge or plain insensitivity (from past experiences) leads now to an international controversy. I think the Danish government as reflected by your Prime Minister's actions and interviews, badly handled the subsequent fallout. President Bush had some wise things to say about this controversy. Yet, our American Secretary of State managed to make Rice Pudding of this whole episode. I think the Muslims were off the cliff in their protests. To go to the point of having loss of their OWN life and property in protesting what someone 3000 miles away did or did not do is just insane. This whole episode, on both sides, is NOT a Clash of Civilizations but rather a Clash of Chaos which stems for ignorance and indifference, which has led to enmity. A lot of good can come out of this unfortunate episode. As a smart editor, I am sure you have noticed that many international incidents including wars, specially the current Iraq war, started off as a series of false beliefs or OOPS or as your web letter put it Error of Judgement(s). I wish you all the best. We would love to do the story on the story. Regards, Gilbert A. Lawrence,
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
...read with interest your letter on your web page about the No Holocaust cartoons. I saw the interview that your cultural editor, Rose Flemming, gave to CNN where he offered to establish contact with the Iranian paper and then publish defamatory cartoons about Jewish and Christian faiths to balance the cartoons on Mohamed and Islam. I also saw the interview of your Prime Minister on CNN. : : In pursuit of the whole story, I checked your web site (where I saw your letter) hoping to see the cartoons; which are at the center of this international controversy. Unfortunately I did not find any. Hmm, I wonder why?Gilbert Lawrence Have you still not seen the cartoons, Gilbert? Lawrence -- Need a *Gmail* e-mail ID? Do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-)
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
Hello Cornel - I assure you that Gilbert's posts are received by Goanet in Plain Text. I can't explain why they show up differently on your screen. Viviana cornel wrote: Hi Gilbert The font you use is not Plain Text and consequently, my replies specifically to your posts cannot be acessed in Plain Text and this may be the reason they have not appeared on Goanet. I am also surprised that Goanet accepts your font when it has repeatedly requested us to use Plain Text. I hope somebody on Goanet notes what I have said and that you receive this post. If this note does not appear, I will contact you re the above point privately. Regards Cornel
Re: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter
Hi Gilbert The font you use is not Plain Text and consequently, my replies specifically to your posts cannot be acessed in Plain Text and this may be the reason they have not appeared on Goanet. I am also surprised that Goanet accepts your font when it has repeatedly requested us to use Plain Text. I hope somebody on Goanet notes what I have said and that you receive this post. If this note does not appear, I will contact you re the above point privately. Regards Cornel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: [Goanet] Response to Danish editor's letter Hi Carsten Juste, (Editor of the newspaper that published the controversial cartoons.) I read with interest your letter on your web page about the No Holocaust cartoons. I saw the interview that your cultural editor, Rose Flemming, gave to CNN where he offered to establish contact with the Iranian paper and then publish defamatory cartoons about Jewish and Christian faiths to balance the cartoons on Mohamed and Islam. I also saw the interview of your Prime Minister on CNN. Here are my thoughts. My wife and I would love to write a story on this whole saga from a Danish perspective, from a Muslim perspective and an American perspective. The title of the book would be OOPS. I still cannot understand how a nice small peaceful Scandinavian country like Denmark, which never had any third world colony, could be the center of an international North-South controversy. I cannot believe that you appointed Flemming Rose as a cultural editor of your newspaper. What were you thinking? In hindsight, this was the first OOPS of the whole saga. Then you allowed your newspaper to publish your tasteless media stunt, which of course was repeated by a few other newspapers in a few other countries. This shows that a few newspaper editors also love stunts, to perhaps increase their circulation. Congratulation on your decisions not to publish any more tasteless media stunts from your past published library or from Iranian papers. In pursuit of the whole story, I checked your web site (where I saw your letter) hoping to see the cartoons; which are at the center of this international controversy. Unfortunately I did not find any. Hmm, I wonder why? Mr. Rose during his current leave, should be made to read the book How to win friends and influence people. I cannot understand how a discussion of sketches on Mohamed for a children's book becomes a caricature contest for a newspaper. Then perhaps your lack of knowledge or plain insensitivity (from past experiences) leads now to an international controversy. I think the Danish government as reflected by your Prime Minister's actions and interviews, badly handled the subsequent fallout. President Bush had some wise things to say about this controversy. Yet, our American Secretary of State managed to make Rice Pudding of this whole episode. I think the Muslims were off the cliff in their protests. To go to the point of having loss of their OWN life and property in protesting what someone 3000 miles away did or did not do is just insane. This whole episode, on both sides, is NOT a Clash of Civilizations but rather a Clash of Chaos which stems for ignorance and indifference, which has led to enmity. A lot of good can come out of this unfortunate episode. As a smart editor, I am sure you have noticed that many international incidents including wars, specially the current Iraq war, started off as a series of false beliefs or OOPS or as your web letter put it Error of Judgement(s). I wish you all the best. We would love to do the story on the story. Regards, Gilbert A. Lawrence,
