Re: [Goanet]VoicesofIraq.com

2004-11-23 Thread Mario Goveia
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Tariq,
You have again avoided the primary question that goes
beyond all the details, which is WHY ARE YOU AND
SANTOSH SO OPPOSED TO FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY FOR THE
IRAQIS, when you enjoy it for yourselves?


--- Tariq Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Good point, Tariq.  Which is why it is so
> important to
> > read multiple sources of news with an eye towards
> > weasel words and bias, and to follow non-partisan
> > investigative reports where there are checks and
> > balances.  These two gentlemen are people who
> actually
> > live and work in Iraq, have lost friends and
> relatives
> > in the conflict, and openly admit that their bias
> is
> > towards the positive things that are happening
> there,
> > while recognizing that a small faction of the 25
> > million Iraqis are still objecting, for one reason
> or
> > another, to the freedom and democracy that is
> > developing there.
> > 
> > What I don't understand is while, a) We all know
> that
> > Saddam was a brutal dictator, b) We all know that
> the
> > US, using UN resolution 1441 as a legal excuse,
> formed
> > a coalition and deposed him, c) We all now know
> that
> > the key members of the UN that opposed the
> coalition
> > had a conflict of interest and were involved with
> > Saddam in looting the country to the tune of some
> > DOUBLE DIGIT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
> > 
> > SO, WITH PLENTY OF BLAME TO GO AROUND, WHY THE
> HELL
> > ARE SO MANY INDIANS, WHO APPRECIATE THEIR OWN
> FREEDOM
> > AND DEMOCRACY, NITPICKING EVERY DETAIL AND
> OPPOSING
> > THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE IRAQI PEOPLE TO LIVE IN
> > FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY?  IF THE IRAQIS ARE
> MASOCHISTS
> > AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE BRUTALIZED THEY CAN
> VOTE
> > THE BAATHISTS BACK INTO POWER, WHO WILL RELEASE
> > SADDAM, AND EVERYONE WILL LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER.
> > 
> > WON'T THEY?
> 
> I think Santosh Helekar's answer is better than
> anything that I could write.
> Therefore, I must refer you to his post.
> 
>
http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2004-November/020968.html
> 
> One part that I would like to quote so that it could
> perhaps permeate into your
> Foxed brain is:
> 
> "As far as the rest of his embarrassing outburst is
> concerned, the questions that he poses in capital
> letters stem from a specious post-hoc
> rationalization
> for an illegal war. They are meant to disguise the
> fact that the Iraq war was based on a lie.
> 
> These questions are really, completely saiba bogus. 
> 
> Saiba Bogos!"
> 
> -Tariq
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Goanet]VoicesofIraq.com

2004-11-23 Thread Mario Goveia
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Good point, Tariq.  Which is why it is so important to
read multiple sources of news with an eye towards
weasel words and bias, and to follow non-partisan
investigative reports where there are checks and
balances.  These two gentlemen are people who actually
live and work in Iraq, have lost friends and relatives
in the conflict, and openly admit that their bias is
towards the positive things that are happening there,
while recognizing that a small faction of the 25
million Iraqis are still objecting, for one reason or
another, to the freedom and democracy that is
developing there.

What I don't understand is while, a) We all know that
Saddam was a brutal dictator, b) We all know that the
US, using UN resolution 1441 as a legal excuse, formed
a coalition and deposed him, c) We all now know that
the key members of the UN that opposed the coalition
had a conflict of interest and were involved with
Saddam in looting the country to the tune of some
DOUBLE DIGIT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

SO, WITH PLENTY OF BLAME TO GO AROUND, WHY THE HELL
ARE SO MANY INDIANS, WHO APPRECIATE THEIR OWN FREEDOM
AND DEMOCRACY, NITPICKING EVERY DETAIL AND OPPOSING
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE IRAQI PEOPLE TO LIVE IN
FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY?  IF THE IRAQIS ARE MASOCHISTS
AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE BRUTALIZED THEY CAN VOTE
THE BAATHISTS BACK INTO POWER, WHO WILL RELEASE
SADDAM, AND EVERYONE WILL LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER.

WON'T THEY?


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> --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  
> > They claimed that they have been amazed at the
> > coverage of the events in Iraq in the world and
> > especially the American media.  They claim that
> the
> > media spends 100% of coverage on less than 10% of
> the
> > conflict that remains in the country of 25 million
> > people and zero percent on the reconstruction that
> is
> > going on right now.
> 
> That same media also focused on the violence during
> the Saddam Hussein regime. 
> 
> -Tariq
> 
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Re: [Goanet]VoicesofIraq.com

2004-11-23 Thread Tariq Siddiqui
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--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> They claimed that they have been amazed at the
> coverage of the events in Iraq in the world and
> especially the American media.  They claim that the
> media spends 100% of coverage on less than 10% of the
> conflict that remains in the country of 25 million
> people and zero percent on the reconstruction that is
> going on right now.

That same media also focused on the violence during the Saddam Hussein regime. 

-Tariq




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