Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Life is constant change! (2)

[cornel]

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Hi Fred
I'd like to make one more observation re the statement below, from one of 
our all-knowing Goanetters. He refers to his "devastating facts and logic 
that make all further discussion impossible." But surely, Goanet aims to 
open up discussion, not to close it as implied by the quote above. Should 
the all-knowing one be enlightened on this simple matter?
Cornel
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> Hi Fred
> Is what I see below some kind of joke taken seriously by a
> quintessentially
> narcissist naive poster? Someone who states that  his "devastating facts
> and
> logic make further debate impossible" must be a very self indulgent modern
> day deity, but who has unfortunately, 'proven' to be, for many sane minds,
> an utter waste of time on Goanet. Yes, the majority do know better than
> the
> lone ranger.
> Cornel
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Life is constant change! (2)


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[Goanet] GREETINGS Eid ul-Fitr

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The Goa Su-Raj Party joins the world to wish it Muslim members, supporters,
well wishers and patrons  a very happy and joyfoul Eid ul-Fitr.

May this day usher-in brotherly feelings among the communities of the world
for a peaceful and harmonious co-existence.

goasuraj

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Re: [Goanet] Hindu Mass

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The issue of Mass in Indian style has come on this
forum before, though it was not termed "Hindu Mass". I
had commented then on the lines that the first
experiment was carried out at St. Xavier's College
Midnight Mass in the 70s when I was a student. It was
Fr. Pramananda Divadkar, brother of noted historian
Fr. John Correia-Affonso. Fr. Divadkar (Christian
name, Roque Correia-Affonso) was then the Rector of
the college.
At the offeratory the Noronha sisters, who behind the
Metro Cinema, one of them my classmate, came dancing
down the aisle and offered coconuts, flowers  in a
thali (the aarti). People walked out from the college
quadrangle. Most of the congregration was from
Dhobitalao, including Goans staying in clubs "kudds".
I wrote about it in a piece which I headlined
"Midnight Scar" in the Goan Tribune. The Mumbai
Archidiocese under Cardinal Gracias was furious.
Through a fellow Goan journalist well connected to the
church, I was invited to meet with the church
officials but I declined. I wrote the piece from a
young person's perspective, and said words to the
effect that this experiment would drive young Goans
like myself away from the church. I warned the church
of the consequences and demanded that it be stopped
immediately. St. Xavier's then was already
"experimenting" with Youth Mass, guitars and
rock-style singing.
Fr. Divadkar was pulled up. The "experiment" was
shelved. I don't think it is done in areas where there
are English-speaking people. Fr. Divadkar was later
transferred to Delhi to work with CBCI, I think. Many
years later, he came back to Mumbai to become
principal of St. Mary's School in Byculla, I believe. 
Yes, Vatican II allowed Mass in the language and style
of the people where the church is located. As many of
you will know, Vatican II turned the church upside
down. Most of the reforms contained in this great
document were good as it made the church less
dogmatic.
 I know a priest who worked in Andaman Islands where
he celebrated Mass sitting down in "puja" style.
But the problem is where such a Mass is celebrated
when people are English speaking. The Konkani Mass
follows the Latin rite. 
During the Marian Congress, Our Lady was dressed in
Indian style. In Africa, Mother Mary is portrayed in
the native styles. In India, devotional songs are sung
in local languages. No objections there. 
Indian art has combined the Roman images of Jesus with
India motifs. Jesus,  Mary and Joseph have been shown
in Indian images, particularly Christmas greeting
cards.
I would not like to attend a Hindu Mass, though I
would do just for observation. There was no need to
have Hindu Mass in a predominantly Portuguese and
Italian area.
Indian liturgy is evolving. There has been demand for
a "Indian church". Here on goanet, someone wrote about
Fr. Conceisaco Rodrigues. I have had discussions with
him when he was at Fr. Agnelo's at Bandra, and he once
or twice came to see me in my office at The Hindu.
He was one who wanted the Indian government to have
the right to appoint Cardinals in India. As I could
see, he thought the Indian government would appoint
him because of his work in Goa's freedom movement and
his close contact with the then Indian PM Jawaharlal
Nehru.
Unfortunately, the Indian government didn't want to
get into this muddle. The government didn't want to
risk its relationship with the Vatican. Fr. Rodrigues
didn't have his wish fulfilled.

Eugene Correia





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[Goanet] Goa... on Project Gutenberg

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When I searched for "Goa" and "India" on Project Gutenberg, I found
240 books showing up.
[http://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/world/results]

Many seem related to the history of the Philippines, and there's one
titled "The Pirates of Malabar, and an Englishwoman in India Two
Hundred Years Ago".

Snake-enthusiast Rahul Alvares' "Free from School" (feel happy I
convinced him to put it up there) is available there too.
[http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/10347]

Here's another book that could have some relevance to Goa: Prince
Henry the Navigator, the Hero of Portugal and of Modern Discovery,
1394-1460 A.D.
With an Account of Geographical Progress Throughout the Middle Ages As
the Preparation for His Work. [http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/18757]

There are books related to Macao and Akbar showing up too.
Interesting! Didn't someone say "sharing knowledge is power"?
Incidentally, you could help this project by proofreading just a
single page a day [http://www.pgdp.net/c/]
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Re: [Goanet] GOA SUDHAROP: GOAN SENIORS E-BOOK

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Great going George. This is very useful job you've done. I do hope you
will make this book sharable and within the reach of everyone in
cyberspace (and beyond) by making it downloadable from Project
Gutenberg [http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page] , and also via
ventures like lulu.com and instabook.net (the digital printing
services). FN
PS: There are at least a couple of more Goa-related e-books on the
way, related to alumni associations in North Goa. If anyone would like
to create one and needs some help, just get in touch. I'll do it
without charge, obviously.

On 25/10/06, George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks to all the contributors to date and others who have publicized the GOA 
> SUDHAROP GOAN
> SENIORS  E-BOOK. The response has been tremendous. Please send in your 
> submission if you have not
> done so already. If you are a Senior please submit an essay or please ask your
> parents/grandparents to submit an essay
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[Goanet] 27th October FRIDAY BALCAO to focus on Goa's three new Coastal Police Stations.

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Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO
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Dear Cybergaonkars on Goanet,

Friday Balcao the fortnightly discussion event
to be held on 27th October will focus on the
implications of Goa's three new Coastal Police Stations.

The announcement of the setting up of three new Coastal
Police Stations in Goa appeared in a single column of the
Official Gazette Series 1 No.25 on page 534 on 21st September
2006.

The 3 coastal police stations have been named Siolim, Harbour
and Mobor will have an interesting area of  jurisdiction which would
be 12 nautical miles in the sea and 200 metres from the High Tide Line
covering the CRZ area all along the coast from Keri in Pernem Taluka
to Polem in Canacona Taluka.

These police stations will cover the sensitive ecologically fragile areas
being used for tourism, water sports, fishing and which also come
under the Goa Coastal Zone Management Authority (GCZMA).

These Coastal Police Stations are supposed to have been created
as measure to deal with terrorism if we consider the statements of
various Police Officers of the IPS cadre. It is a proposal endorsed
by the Union Home Minister and Union Home Secretary.

These coastal areas are pre dominantly used by people involved
in the traditional occupations like Ramponkars, toddytappers besides
those involved in tourism like shack owners, bars, restaurant & hotel
owners and other services offered in tourism like disco clubs and
water sports.

Did the Government of Goa discuss this matter in the Legislative
Assembly before finalising this proposal ? Were the Village Panchayats,
Zilla Panchayats and Municipal Councils consulted before finalising this
important matter ? Could the strengthening of the Marine Police not be
good enough a measure to deal with coastal security ?

What impact will these police stations have on the cash rich coastal
belt especially in the context of offences committed by foreign and
domestic tourists like over staying, foreign exchange violations, narcotics,
assaults, traffic offences, murders etc.? What will be the level of political
interference with regards appointments & transfers of police officers
and handling of cases on a daily basis ?

Are the threats of terrorist attacks & bomb blasts a justifiable reason
to set up such police stations especially when they will be greatly
responsible for permanently changing the face of Goa's coastal areas ?

The Balcao discussion will cover these questions and
also evolve an agenda for action by citizens on the issue.

Friday Balcao will be from 4pm to 6pm
at the Goa Desc Resource Centre
No.11 Liberty Apartments Feira Alta,
Mapusa and is open to members of the public.

We invite you to attend the Friday Balcao event
but if you cannot attend, then please send your
views by post to FRIDAY BALCAO
Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507
or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

best wishes,

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[Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] Thirtieth Sunday of the Year

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23-Oct-2006
   
  Dear Friend,
   
  Today we have eliminated many of the diseases that cause blindness, and we 
have invented all kinds of devices to improve our seeing. We have ordinary 
glasses and bifocals, magnifying glasses, field glasses, telescopes and 
microscopes, contact lenses and lens implants. But has our seeing improved? 
Sometimes we just refuse to see! Can we see with the eyes of faith? Have an 
insightful weekend! Fr. Jude
   
  Sunday Reflections: Thirtieth Sunday of the Year –“Lord that I might see!”   
29-Oct.2006
  Readings: Jeremiah 31: 7-9;   Hebrews 5: 1-6;
Mark 10: 46-52;
   
  In the first reading the prophet carries a message of hope for the exiles in 
Babylon. The Lord will save what is left of his people and bring them back from 
exile. Even the most helpless will share in the joy of this great event. The 
people are in exile as once in Egypt. There will be a new exodus, as marvelous 
as the old. God’s love, not human power, will again be triumphant because the 
first to be delivered will be the feeble; the blind will receive sight from the 
God of Israel. The reason for this hope is given by Yahweh himself: “For I am a 
father to Israel and Ephraim my first-born son,”
   
  To See Him….
  A man and his son went on a camping trip to the mountains. They hired an 
experienced guide, who brought them into the heart of the forest, and the 
beauty spots in the mountains that they themselves would never have found. The 
old guide was constantly pointing out beauty and wonders that the passer-by 
would never notice. The young lad was fascinated by the ability of the guide to 
see so much in all his surroundings. One day the lad was so impressed that he 
exclaimed “I’ll bet you can even see God out here.” The old guide smiled and 
replied “Son, as life goes on it’s getting more and more difficult for me to 
see anything but God out here.” “Lord that I might see…..”
  Jack McArdle in ‘And that’s the Gospel truth’
   
  In the second reading from the letter to the Hebrews we are reminded that the 
high priest of the Old Testament understood sinners, because he was a sinner 
himself. Jesus understands us better than any other because he is Love. The 
high priest was called to service because he was a descendant of Aaron. Jesus 
was called by God because he was his only son. Melchizedek, priest of God 
prefigured Christ, called directly by the father to be priest, victim and 
sacrifice.
   
  Today’s gospel is rich in symbolism and Mark uses the cure of the blind man 
Bartimaeus, not merely to reveal the power of Jesus, but also to spell out what 
true discipleship entails: the following of Jesus no matter what the cost. 
Bartimaeus is sitting by the roadside begging for alms when he hears that Jesus 
is passing by. Perhaps Bartimaeus had heard of Jesus and never dreamt that 
Jesus would be so close by. He begins to shout repeatedly that beautiful and 
simple prayer: “Jesus, Son of David, have pity on me!” The crowd scolds him and 
advices him to be quiet but he shouts all the more: “Son of David, Jesus, have 
pity on me!” In his repeated plea we see the persistence of faith and though he 
was blind he could see in Jesus his only Saviour. Jesus notices his call and 
asks Bartimaeus to be brought to him. Jesus always notices the prayer made in 
faith and is ready to listen to our plea. On hearing of the invitation to come 
to Jesus Bartimaeus leaps up, throws off his cloak
 and goes to Jesus. Perhaps his cloak is the only valuable possession that he 
had and he had used it to sit, sleep and beg. Now he does not need his cloak 
for Jesus is all he needs. Jesus, though he sees that he is blind, asks him 
what he needs. “What do you want me to do for you?” Bartimaeus with great faith 
says: “Rabunni, Master, let me see again!” Jesus heals him and gives him his 
sight. On receiving his sight Bartimaeus follows Jesus, going wherever he leads 
him. 
   
  None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See…..
  A young man blind from birth, fell in love with a girl. The more he got to 
know her, the deeper his love for her became. He found her full of charm and 
wit. A beautiful relationship developed between them. But then one day a friend 
told him that the girl wasn’t very good-looking. From that moment on he began 
to lose interest in her. Too bad. He had been ‘seeing’ her very well. It was 
his friend who was blind.  A blind 

Re: [Goanet] Misinformation regarding cancer/response to Cornel

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Hi Sunith
This is total waffle from Mario that cuts absolutely no ice but typically 
wastes people's time in his reply to you.

My understanding from the Goanet posts on this issue about  cancer is that, 
a respected oncologist, practising in the USA, Gilbert Lawrence, asserted 
that, there was evidence from a study on mice that has clear implications 
for cancer treatment on humans. Now, you Sunith, have consistently made a 
very legitimate  request to Gilbert for the specific reference to the study 
which
he used in his claim. It has been as simple as that. Unfortunately, both 
Gilbert and Mario (with much talk but no substance as per Roland), have 
avoided providing the answer and are engaging in a form of 'chicanery' 
instead. Presumably, this is because they are unable to provide the answer 
and this is seemingly another one of Gilbert's  grandmother stories/"kaneos" 
on a cancer issue.

I put it that both Mario and Gilbert have been trying to pretend that, 
Sunith has got the wrong end of the stick or is somehow asking the wrong 
question or does not understand English! Instead of coming clean and 
apologising that, a mistake had been made by Gilbert and that there is 
indeed NO evidence
relating to the mice experiment available to Gilbert, both are trying to 
pull the wool over our eyes on Goanet. Well, I'd now like to see them take 
me on over this issue! I repeat that the issue is simply whether Gilbert can 
provide the hard evidence for the mice study on cancer or he cannot. Nothing 
else is at issue here nor is Sunith seeking any interpretations on the study 
referred to by Gilbert irrespective of Mario's valiant  reference to terms 
like 'causes', 'correlations' etc (presumably, he means through usage of 
statistical tests even if this is not at all evident in what he says).

What is it about some people on Goanet who get hooked on unfounded evidence
and then try to waffle their way out of a dilemma of their own creation?
Here we have Mario and Gilbert berating young Sunith for asking a perfectly
legitimate question arising from Gilbert's original post on cancer. Is this 
any different from Carmo presenting us with unfounded 'evidence' about 
Indian IT specialists doing better than Harvard and Yale people and then
chickening out when I asked for the evidence?

As in the case of Carmo's IT experts, here in the UK, we have an entirely 
unfounded rumour doing the rounds from time to time that Indian medical 
doctors performed better than UK medical graduates on the PLAB test set by
the Professional and Linguistic Assessment Board. If they stopped to think
about this for a moment, instead of insisting like one Goa trained doctor 
did recently to me,  UK medical graduates would not attempt such an exam set 
for overseas medical graduates for the simple reason that they do not need 
to do so and do not have access to it. It  also costs a lot of money. 
Incidentally, neither do EU medical graduates from outside the UK need this 
PLAB exam, even  when often, their spoken and comprehension English skills 
are abysmal compared to a lot of Indian graduates with excellent grammatical 
and idiomatic English.

Well, I await the sheer 'brilliance' in Mario's self congratulatory "facts 
and
logic" scenario in providing the answer to the simple question set by Sunith 
and now
reinforced by me. I just want a straight answer-- not more waffle please
from the said gentlemen. For recapitulation  purposes, the question from 
Sunith and now also from me is: What is the name and date of the journal 
where the mouse experiment (carried out a few years ago) that Gilbert was 
referring to, got published?  Surely, this is ever so simple to answer in 
plain English!
Cornel

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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Misinformation regarding cancer/response to Cornel

> Mario responds:
>>
> Sunith,
> Anyone who has a half-way decent command of English as you claim to have, 
> and has followed the thread on cancer between an experienced medical 
> practitioner and a medical researcher who tried to misrepresent what had 
> been written, would recognize your subsequent ploy as one of obfuscation, 
> a red-herring desperately trying to deflect from the original observations 
> of Gilbert, which you and some other self-proclaimed wise men failed to 
> gras

[Goanet] Alberto de Noronha remembered

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Obituary for Alberto de Noronha
by Isabel de Santa Rita Vas

This is a small tribute to Alberto de Noronha, who passed away on  19th 
October 2006, having lived life according to his best lights. Alberto de 
Noronha was my uncle; despite the difference in our ages, he was my good 
friend; but my tribute to him springs from the fact that he was a lovely 
human being.

Modesty was his middle name. Despite the fact that he worked with honour 
and efficiency, first as a school teacher, then as a government official, 
retiring from service as a Deputy Director of the Department of Statistics, 
Alberto was humble to a fault. In the preface to his memoirs (yet 
unpublished) he stresses his own small stature; nature, however, had seen 
fit to make him a six-footer, slim and straight and ever noticeable even in 
a crowd. In the same preface he states his conviction that he never 
overshadowed any one, nor did he sow thorns in any one's path.

His modesty did not turn him inactive or stagnant. Alberto de Noronha 
seemed to develop more and more interests with the passing of years. His 
love of languages and his love of his land prompted him to translate Goan 
short stories by numerous writers, from Konkani, Marathi and English into 
Portuguese, and he proudly launched his first book, Onde o  Moruoni Canta ( 
Where the Moruoni Bird Sings), in 2003. It was his fond hope that Goa would 
thus be better known to the Portuguese-speaking world. It was again his 
love of Goa and his deep interest in its culture and history that plunged 
him into research leading to yet another book: The Third Culture, published 
by Third Millennium Publications. Painstakingly gleaning diverse sources, 
collecting facts and opinions offered by scholars, Alberto de Noronha 
sought to trace the dynamic interpenetration of the Indian and the 
Portuguese cultures across many centuries. Already into his 86th year of 
life, and suffering from a life-threatening illness, the author waited with 
enormous anxiety for his book to see the light of day. And with as much 
relief as joy, he had it launched on 7th October 2006, just a few days 
before he passed away. His enthusiasm and painstaking efforts were a source 
of inspiration to all who knew Alberto de Noronha.

He was, amongst many other things, a man who valued the family. His joy in 
his children, his pain in their struggles, his delight in his 
grandchildren, and his loyal love and affection for his wife and long-time 
companion, these were his fingerprints. Perhaps it is only too common to 
love one's family. But with the best of them, Alberto strove to share with 
his large family the values that had sustained him and his world.

And Alberto de Noronha was a man of deep and active faith. His prayer life 
was the hub of his day. It could only have been this firm trust in 
Providence that granted him serenity through the many upheavals of life, 
and particularly in his last years of illness. The strength of his spirit 
turned these into years of steady creativity. One can confidently venture 
to say that Alberto Noronha reached the end of his days with a sense of 
quiet fulfillment.  He will be cherished by very many who knew and 
respected him.





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Re: [Goanet] Joao Caetano Sousa - Goa's top home grown athlete

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--- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Much is spoken about overseas Goan athletes on this
> forum and very little about our own home grown
> talent.
>  
> Take the case of Joao Caetano Sousa,in my opinion is
> JCS also participated at Bharat level, and not 
> faring badly giving the poor setup Goan athletes 
> have to face in Goa.
> 
Mario asks:
>
Well over half of all world class athletes in certain
major sports, regardless of which country they come
from, are students or graduates of American
universities.
>
I realized this again recently while watching the
World Championships in Basketball in Japan, where all
the top teams except Greece had several players who
had played or currently played for American
universities.  
>
Promising athletes from Europe, Australia, Africa and
east-Asia, some from families poorer than any Indian
athlete, get full scholarships to attend American
universities based on their athletic talent alone as
long as they have a minimal proficiency in their
studies.  There they get the best coaching and
nutrition and training facilities possible to
represent the university, and the opportunity for a
free college education, while being free to represent
their own countries in international tournaments.
>
Yet, few Indian athletes have taken advantage of this
opportunity, even though many of the soccer, track and
field and tennis players would certainly qualify.
>



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[Goanet] Press Statement for kind favour of publication

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October 25, 2005



To,

The Editor,

Goan Observer,

Miramar, Panjim.



Sir,



Subject: Press Statement for kind favour of publication.



The Goa Su-Raj Party is not too shocked at the language used by  the Vice
President of the Goa BJP,  Prof. Subash Salkar,  to counter the press
statement given by  the President of the Lok Shakti Dr. Francisco Colaco
indicting the Goa BJP headed by the ex-Chief Minister, Mr. Manohar Parrikar,
for the wrong-doings during the tenure of its mis-rule in Goa with respect
to the communalizing of the Goan society as well as the un-accountable
mega-expenditure of public funds on IFFI-2004.  This is expected from a
party that has been wholly indicted by none other than the country's most
prestigious institution  such as the Comptroller and Auditor General of
India (CAG). That the Goa BJP has preferred to sell the idea to the general
public that the 'CAG' has connived with the presently ruling government of
Goa to show the Goa BJP in bad light is another thing altogether.



Dr. Francisco Colaco is perfectly justified in exposing the Goa BJP's double
standards vis a vis Gandhiji and its recently espoused 'Gandhigiri',  an
absolute non-violent mode of holding corrupt government officials
accountable, for the simple reason that  the Goa BJP cannot be seen anywhere
near to be following in the foot-steps of Gandhiji. That the Goa BJP had,
among other things, wanted to remove,  as a holiday in Goa, the October 2
birth date of Gandhiji, which is celebrated throughout India with passion as
the birth date of the Father of the Nation ,  has not been forgotten by
Goans at large.



Through the above outburst (GT 25/10 Pg.  A3),  the BJP has admitted having
itself received commissions from INOX. And the people of Goa have witnessed
how peaceful the morchas it has conducted,  have been. The test cases are
the stopping of the Governor's motorcade at the gates of the Raj Bhavan,
the Mala-Fontainhas incident of destroying public and private property, and
the un-erasable picture of the Savordem-Curchorem riots.



The office bearers of the Goa BJP are best advised to exercise restraint in
using offensive language  to counter acute criticisms coming its way from
all quarters, whether it be from the political circle, from the NGOs or from
the members of the general public. It must remembered that the people are
the best judges of things over a long period of time where the generally
accepted norm that memories are short-lived is not valid in these cases.



Thanking you,

for Goa Su-Raj Party

Sd/-

(Floriano C. Lobo)

Spokesperson
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BJP: Lok Shakti is a coterie of morons



By A Staff Reporter

PANJIM: Flaying the statement of Lok Shakti president Dr. Francisco Colaco,
BJP vice president prof. Subash Salkar called LOK SHAKTI as a coterie of
morons who are always on their toes to exhibit their ignorance to the
people. Taking a dig at Dr. Colaco's statement about Gandhigiri, prof Salkar
said that BJP had taken up several issues of public interest so far through
morchas, rallies and as such even in the past and will take up in the future
also, following peaceful principles of Mahatma Gandhi. Goans are very much
aware of BJP's such activities and Lok Shakti need not advise BJP on it he
said. The BJP vice president said that Lok Shakti who was bewailing every
now and then during the BJP's rule in Goa, had fallen asleep after the
Congress government's return to power. Hence Goans could not hear Lok
Shakti's voice when people of Saleli stood unitedly against the slave's
treatment given to them. Goans could not hear Lok Shakti's voice when most
of the NGOs protested against TCP Minister Babush Monserrate's move to
approve Goa's  Regional Plan, 2011. But it is good to see Lok Shakti coming
out of deep slumber, added prof Salkar and advised that Lok Shakti now needs
to open its eyes wider, see around clearly, understand thoroughly and then
only let their words come out of their mouth. Criticising the Lok Shakti for
its statement on Inox company, prof Salkar pointed out that the BJP
government had signed the contract with the Inox company only for a period
from November 2004 to May 2005. After that it was the Congress government in
rule, he said and demanded to know why did it take 18 months to decide on
further contract and urged them to seek explanation from the Congress
government. He also challenged Lok Shakti to investiate who 

Re: [Goanet] KONKAN CURRY: Life is constant change! (2)

[Mario Goveia]

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--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Fred
> I'd like to make one more observation re the
> statement below, from one of our all-knowing 
> Goanetters. He refers to his "devastating facts and 
> logic that make all further discussion impossible." 
> But surely, Goanet aims to open up discussion, not 
> to close it as implied by the quote above. Should 
> the all-knowing one be enlightened on this simple
> matter?
> 
Mario observes:
>
Since Cornel seems as afraid to mention my name as he
is of my devastating facts and logic, he needs to be
enlightened to the simple realization that facts and
logic can only be objectionable to those who do not
use facts and logic themselves.  Vague, mean-spirited
generalities are no substitute.
>
I have always asked others to take specific points I
have made and respond with specific facts and logic of
their own, if they choose to.  If my facts and logic
are indeed devastating then to challenge them is
obviously problematic:-))  If not, feel free to
disagree, but tell me exactly why so that I can
clarify, agree, or agree to disagree. 
>
The one type of response I refuse to accept are
generalities in place of specifics.
>
Cornel has told us over and over again that EVERYTHING
is relative, there is no such thing as the truth, and
so he prefers a selective use of facts followed by
expansive and lengthy generalities and profers
testimonials of mythical friends, students and
colleagues we do not know to support his positions. 
>
Everyone is entitled to have their own opinions, but
not their own facts.  It's only those who think that
all facts are relative who want to have their own
facts to use as they choose at any given time.
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Re: [Goanet] Donations for not posting to GoaNet

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--- Cecil Pinto wrote:
> >
> > > In a side-bar discussion I found people offering
> > > vast sums of money to charity if a particular 
> > > person of their choice stopped posting to GoaNet
> > > for a period of two months.
> > >
> > > I, Cecil Pinto, hereby would like to a
> > > beneficiary of these generous offers. For Rs. 
> > > 45,000/- (or nearest offer) I too will stop 
> > > posting to GoaNet for this period. Please make 
> > > Pay Order in the name "Cecil Pinto".
> 
Mario adds:
>
Cecil,
The harrassed member who made the offer apparently
somewhat desperate to avoid the trauma of debating in
specific and civil terms was offering only a paltry
100 BP.
>
Hardly worth keeping quiet over, innit?:-))
>
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[Goanet] Lonely Planet... Goa... and Firefox

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Links to Goa on Lonely Planet... courtesy the 'Lonely Planet' plugin
for the FIrefox browser. And, Firefox 2.0 is just out. Download it and
use it to browse stably and speedily.
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[Goanet] Saying 'Thank You' with these Goan Flowers (Part III)

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Ref: Kitchen tips/hints
 
Well, received in all one dozen eggs (sorry,  mails I mean) from you so far 
from LA to UK and
from France to Gulf and from Africa to India.
 
It's very nice of you.
 
Good to know that you do care.. 
 
That was the SMS sent to all 18.
Infact, eggs do break even when we put in luke warm water.
I remember, we used to boil eggs just like that. All we did was put egg one by 
one by lowering
slowly in the boiling water with the help of 'doulo' a large spoon made up of 
coconut shell
and long  bamboo stick as handle.
 
Thanks for the many tips & ideas
 
And I say it with these flowers...
 
Goan flowers Part III
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=279348634&size=l
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/279348634/
 
 
If you missed out on previous ones, here it is again.. 
 
Part II
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=265424708&size=l
 
 
Part I
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=259314520&size=l
 
 
Thanks once again.
 
one flower sent as attachement, see below (n/a to Plain text readers)



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[Goanet] DEAR AUNTY No. 27 - WEEKLY HUMOR :-))

[Francis Rodrigues]

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 DEAR AUNTY No. 27 - WEEKLY TOP 12:
 _

1. DEAR AUNTY,
I got Portuguese passport, now I go London. Can I be white janitor?Gaja
..
Dear Gaja: No, but you will be Europe peon !!
_
2. DEAR AUNTY,
We're Hindus, but Goans too ! Pls., a "knock-knock" for us?  Dinesh Pai Kane
..
Dear Mr. Kane:   "Knock! Knock!"."Konn?".."Kane!"."Konn Kane?"
"Arree, pishaKon-kani amchea bhas, hainai ami dukhra mas!"
_
3. DEAR AUNTY,
Will Churchill take Rane or Joaquim's help to win against Luizinho?Joe
.
Dear Joe:  Stop 'joaquim' around! He'll just 'rane' away to avoid 'luizin'!
_
4. DEAR AUNTY,
What's the difference between an upper-caste girl and your sister?Sudra
...
Dear Sudra: One's a Bamoin, and the other's 'ma boin !'
_
5. DEAR AUNTY,
All over Goa, all feni makers and nut-pluckers on strike - why?   Cazu Beeyo
..
Dear Cazu:  Haha !  Because they're.'cashew-all' workers ??
_
6. DEAR AUNTY,
I married that fishergirl! Now she locks me out of the house. Help!   Martin

Dear Martin: 'Issvonn' do !  'Bangdde' door down !!
("This won't do! Bang the door down!"isvonn=kingfish; bangdde=mackerel)*
_
7. DEAR AUNTY,
This guy Caesar - was he stabbed over a language issue or over the Roman
Konquests? Do you have the Biblical headlines for 44 BC? Mark Antony
..
Dear Mark: "Julia's Scissors in murder over Roman Konkanists" Bruto Da Costa
_
8. DEAR AUNTY,
Why do Bardez kids always draw US maps - they want to migrate there?  Miguel

Dear Miguel: Don't you get it - most are from MapUSA !
_
9. DEAR AUNTY,
I'm an old BAG (Born Again Goan). Pls. find for me a good poti !Ankvar

Dear Ankvar: Best match for an old BAG is an old SAC(Sworn Again Christian)!
 (poti=bag=husband)*
_
10. DEAR AUNTY,
I gave my bebdo friend feni in an old glass. But he left half. Why?   Fenu.
..
Dear Fenu:  Maybe he didn't feni-sh because he was too feni-cky?
_
11. DEAR AUNTY,
The World Cricket Cup is on, but our Indian bowlers struggling. We know
how to bowl offspinners and legcutters, but how to 'bowl inners'?   Rahul
...
Dear Rahul: Send to Goa! We have know-how to 'bol-inas !"
_
12. DEAR AUNTY,
Don't you think a Hindu priest more suitable for this new 'Hindu' Mass? Buta
..
Dear Buta:  But you know the bhatt will be the butt of much ridicule !
_
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'tube-lights' & non-konkani readers worldwide. Forward with acknowledgement.

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Re: [Goanet] Hindu Mass

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--- Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here on goanet, someone wrote about
> Fr. Conceisaco Rodrigues. I have had discussions
> with
> him when he was at Fr. Agnelo's at Bandra, and he
> once
> or twice came to see me in my office at The Hindu.
> He was one who wanted the Indian government to have
> the right to appoint Cardinals in India. As I could
> see, he thought the Indian government would appoint
> him because of his work in Goa's freedom movement
> and
> his close contact with the then Indian PM Jawaharlal
> Nehru.

Shades of the "Pinto revolt".   

You can see how Goa was manipulated (and is still
being manipulated) by a few who want to rise to the
top by corrupt means, even if it means sacrificing the
people of Goa.  

Gabriel.



 
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Re: [Goanet] Clarification regarding misinformation

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Hi Santosh,

Every month in addition to my full-time clinical work of treating cancer 
patients, I read at least three cancer journals.  Next month is the annual 
meeting of ASTRO - American Society of Therapeutic Radiology and Oncology.  
Their book, with the abstracts of the proceedings of the meeting, is 720 pages 
and contains 2903 abstracts.  The scientific papers cover the fields of 
Oncology, Tumor Biology, 
Radiation Physics and new Technologies in cancer management.  To facilitate the 
review of all this material, my two colleagues and myself will each study a 
third of the papers. Then we will share the pertinent information of the 
different interesting and important scientific studies.  As I review these 
scientific papers, I try to remember all the specific details and references of 
the material I read, including authors, institutions, country. etc..  

It is obvious, by Sunith's own account of his profession, that the two of us 
are living and working in very different worlds. And the more separate we keep 
those environments, the better it will be for both of us.  With all due 
respects to him and others, a litany of disparaging words is a poor substitute 
to intelligent writing or seeking honest facts.  Disparaging sentences may 
impress those with a flair for English.  While the flair humors me, it does not 
impress this supurlo Goenkar. 

Do not take this personal, as this may or may not apply to you.  Some academics 
with a staff of assistants, postgraduate and undergraduate students, reportedly 
put in a 24-7 work-schedule. This is 24 hours a week and 7 months a year.  You 
obviously have a lot of time on your hands to go "through the published 
literature on animal experiments related to this issue,  over the past 50 
years."   Or you may be telling us the truth, which is -  you are an 
under-worked scientist and gave your guinea-pigs  some rest. This  to review 
fifty years of animal experimentation.   This luxury of time unfortunately and 
definitely does not apply to us, in clinical / private medical practice.  

Dr. Jayant's reply in response to my original post speaks for itself - 
"Straight from the horse's mouth".  This is not withstanding your  statement 
below; and you placing Jayant's post as a response to mine.  As has been 
repeatedly demonstrated on this topic, Mario - a cancer victim and survivor, 
had a much better grasp and understanding of my posts than the self-acclaimed 
English scholars and science academics.  And Mario was not the exception. Given 
the above reading requirements to maintain our proficiency and skill in our 
daily work, please drop your attitude that you are the only goanetter that 
understands science.  And as it applies to the rest of us, you can be placed in 
the classical (medical and other professional) dictum,  "When one does not use 
it (the knowledge and skill), one looses it".  And to repeat myself, one does 
not get it (the knowledge and skill),  from www (world wide web) or being net 
savvy.

So, it is OK to accept that you are no authority on every aspect of science.  
In fact to accept your limitation will enhance your standing in the specific 
area of your expertise.  It is laughable to claim, that you went "through the 
published literature on animal experiments related to this issue,  over the 
past 50 years."  Likely your five cronies on goanet will believe that, and will 
always be fooled. And they will come to your defense, with some scurrilous 
writings.  But not all goanetters can be fooled all the time.  

Instead of zapping / expressing your opinions (with little facts) on every 
science (and non-science) under the sun, why don't you educate us on  the 
neuro-science of Alzheimer, Autism, Parkinson Disorder, attention deficit 
syndrome, hyperactive children,  etc.?  Or perhaps these situations apply to 
humans, and may not be within your preview of expertise.  And hence your 
reluctance to cover these topics may be understandable. 

I have no time right now to search my scientific archives and do your's or 
somebody else's scut work. Now if you gave me a grant to hire a student to do 
your research, you would have your answer a lot earlier.  Your or Sunith's 
ignorance is not my responsibility.  If anybody does not wish to accept the 
findings and the explanations that I reported, please feel free to do so.  If 
Santosh and Sunith are very keen in getting their study, please, 'put

[Goanet] Misinformation regarding cancer

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Hi Cornel,

You start your post by claiming what I said in my several posts on this thread 
(see below).
Can you state what exactly did I say that "has clear implications for cancer 
treatment on humans."?
Thanks in anticipation.
I would appreciate if you were short, sweet and to the point.
Kind Regards, GL

-- cornel  

 
My understanding from the Goanet posts on this issue about  cancer is that, a 
respected oncologist, practising in the USA, Gilbert Lawrence, asserted that, 
there was evidence from a study on mice that has clear implications for cancer 
treatment on humans.
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[Goanet] Vasco Civic and Consumer Forum meeting on Thursday

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-
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your
family members, relatives, neighbours and friends.
Help others be BETTER INFORMED,
The time is come for the people of Goa 
to ORGANISE not AGONISE !!
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Vasco Civic and Consumer Forum meeting on Thursday.
---
The Vasco Civic and Consumer Forum (VCCF) will have its
monthly general meeting of consumers on Thursday 26th October
at 6.00pm at St.Andrew's High School, Vasco.

Among the issues to be discussed are preventive measures to tackle
the spread of  dengue and chikungunya, proactive role of citizens in 
Disaster Management, procedure for filing complaints to Consumer 
Conciliation Committee, service related problems of PWD water supply, 
Electricity, Bus Transport, Post Office, Cable TV, BSNL telephones, 
review of LPG services by Hindustan Petroleum and Bharat Petroleum 
and preparation of Identity cards for Senior Citizens.

Consumers of Vasco are invited to attend the meeting and
participate in the deliberations.
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Vasco Civic and Consumer Forum 
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GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK
--- 
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Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 1, Issue 472

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Goa seen enough of evil for the past 4 decades of the
new regime. It is a crying shame that there are Goans
who are advocating the entry of more evil into our
social and religious lives. 


BC
==

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Hindu Mass



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The issue of Mass in Indian style has come on this
forum before, though it was not termed "Hindu Mass". I
had commented then on the lines that the first
experiment was carried out at St. Xavier's College
Midnight Mass in the 70s when I was a student. It was
Fr. Pramananda Divadkar, brother of noted historian
Fr. John Correia-Affonso. Fr. Divadkar (Christian
name, Roque Correia-Affonso) was then the Rector of
the college.

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[Goanet] List of 'family tiatrists', can you add some more ??

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List of 'family/members tiatrists', can you add some more ??

I was trying to compile a list of all living 'family' members/tiatrists like 
brothers,
sisters, father/mother-son/daughter, husband-wife etc. (Close family only -No 
Cousins &
Nieces)
   
  Eg. Peter-Roshan-Brian-Brenzer
  Augustin-son (pl name)
  Domnic-Luis
  johnd silva-son (pl name)
  Milagres-Hazel
  Aplon-felcy
  Aliston-aaron
  Socor de st cruz -daughter (pl name)
  Ophelia-babli
  Prince Jacob-Humbert
  Mini-mario-Bladwin
  Sharon-wilson
  Tomazin-wife/Irene
  Young chico-Junior Chico
  Anil-Fatima ?
  Anil-Olga ?
  H Britton-T.Britton ?
  Jack Rodson-Maria
  Roseferns-Agima
  Rita Rose-Engelbert/Schubert
  Elvis-wife (pl name)

Can you please add some more ??

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Re: [Goanet] Misinformation regarding cancer/response to Cornel

[cornel]

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Hi Sunith
Thanks for your reply. I have been away for a few days and am only just 
disjointedly catching up with endless mail. I now take it that you are in 
London. Do email me and I'll give you my phone number, once again, when you 
are more settled. We could meet over a pub lunch anywhere convenient to you 
and ideally in the main central area of London.

Re Mario Goveia, I have known since he joined Goanet that he has a strange
and peculiar 'spoilt child'  logic. He can never be wrong, his 'facts' are 
always right as is his point of view, and everyone else is always wrong and 
he simply has to have the last word (and he badly needs it!)  about anything
even if a point has been repeated endlessly. Have  you ever heard him 
apologise for anything?

Finally, he has emphasised his skill at demolishing opponents, "point by
point" and unfortunately, some on Goanet have been taken in by this 
nonsense.

In a presentation, it is the overall point(s) that is made that matters and 
not perhaps a single sentence, or more, in isolation  perhaps in a thousand 
sentences in a substantial article. Mario has never figured out that the 
context of individual sentences in a passage is most important and that, the 
sum is greater than
its parts. Consequently, he attacks the constituent parts and not the 
overall point that is being made in an argument. The British quote, "missing 
the wood for the trees" was perhaps what its originator had in mind for what 
Mario is all about and you correctly sussed him out so soon after you joined 
Goanet.

Interestingly too, Mario has made himself a permanent critic of other points
of view. How nice it would be if he actually wrote something of substance at
least once. Minimally, we could take it apart with some relish!

Oh and there is one other point. He simply does not understand that most 
"facts" and "logics" are perpetually contested, some much more than others, 
in the terrain of open discussion. His facts and logic are ipso facto
contested as much as anybody else's even though he once indicated to me,
quite some time ago,  that he knew that his facts were  right and that his 
logic was above board!
Cornel
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From: "Sunith Velho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Misinformation regarding cancer/response to Cornel
> Hi Cornel,
> Thank you for your kind words but I must say Mario's posts have no effect
> on me neither personally nor professionally.
>
> Unfortunately he will never grasp the difference between knowledge and 
> wisdom because he has none of the former and laughably claims to possess 
> the latter 


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Re: [Goanet] Lonely Planet... Goa... and Firefox

[Vincente Fernandes]

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On a side note, i would highly recommend internet users in goa
specially the one using dial-up access with different ISP to use
firefox browser.
Sorry Goanetters it is not goa related but would definately help my
fellow netters in goa.

Vincente.

On 10/25/06, Frederick FN Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
>   House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr
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>   No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only
>
>  Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details
> 
> Links to Goa on Lonely Planet... courtesy the 'Lonely Planet' plugin
> for the FIrefox browser. And, Firefox 2.0 is just out. Download it and
> use it to browse stably and speedily.
> [http://search.lonelyplanet.com/query.html?qt=Goa&nh=20&sourceid=mozilla-search]
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[Goanet] World Youth Chess Championships2006: Ivana maintains lead, India looks to sweep Under 10 Boys!

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Round 8 World Youth -

In a battle of the top seeds Olympiad player and second seed WGM Dronavalli 
Harika (ELO 2353) lost a crucial game to top seeded
Ukranian WGM Diana Arutyunova (2392) in the eight round of the Girls Under 
18 section of the World Youth Chess Championships being played in Batumi, 
Georgia. In a Dutch Defence setup, Harika played riskily quite unlike her 
usual self. Her pawn sacrifice did not really work and finally Harika had to 
concede the game after just 38 moves when confronted with Diana's 
unstoppable 'C' pawn passer.

Asian Silver medallist Ivana Furtado beat National Under 7 Champion M. 
Mahalakshmi in the eight round to maintain her slender half point lead. 
There is only one player Navyavaishnavi who is on  6.5 points so it could be 
said that Ivana's chances of a medal are exceedingly bright ar this stage. 
Ivana had beaten Mahalakshmi in Teheran so she used her psychological edge 
to demolish her rival in this crucial encounter. If Ivana can beat 
Navyavaishnavi tomorrow then Goa's first medal at the World Championships 
thanks is virtually assured!

Goa's WFM and Asian Gold medallist Bhakti Kulkarni (2062)  suffered her 
second successive defeat when she lost to second seeded
Indonesia's Sukandar Kharisma (2239). Her chances of a medal have 
disappeared and she will try to salvage some points in the remaining three 
rounds to aim for a top ten finish.

In the Boys Under 10 section, 2005 Asian Under 8 Gold medallist Girish 
Kaushik (1990) maintained a perfect score of 8 points by beating second seed 
Georgian Irakli Beradze (2080). Mysore's Girish has a giant 2 point lead 
over his rivals and is virtually assured of a Gold medal going into the 
remaining three rounds. The top 6 spots are all held by Indians in this 
section and it remains to be seen whether India will sweep the tally here!

In the Under 8 Boys section, unrated Ch. Mohineesh drew with compatriot 
Prince Bajaj (1878) to keep a slender half point lead going
into the ninth round where he plays Armenian Manuel Petrosian (1790).

SOURCE: Sameer A. Salgaocar  - President, GSCA 

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[Goanet] Talking Photos: Sometimes,.. it is not what we think..

[JoeGoaUk]

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Talking Photos:  Sometimes,.. it is not what we think..

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[Goanet] "May our eyes be opened.....

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 so that we may see and follow Jesus today!"

Myopia cannot be helped by sticking one's nose into a Bible.

Kevin Saldanha
Mississauga, ON.

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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:23:40 +0100 (BST)
From: Jude Botelho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] Thirtieth Sunday of the Year

23-Oct-2006
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Dear Friend,
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Today we have eliminated many of the diseases that cause blindness, and w=
e have invented all kinds of devices to improve our seeing. We have ordinar=
y glasses and bifocals, magnifying glasses, field glasses, telescopes and m=
icroscopes, contact lenses and lens implants. But has our seeing improved? =
Sometimes we just refuse to see! Can we see with the eyes of faith? Have an=
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[Goanet] A woman without a culture of her own

[Carvalho]

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I once attended a seminar where the audience was asked
this question. If you are in a room full of people who
are you most likely to gravitate towards? The answer
apparently was, the person who is most like you
culturally.

This has been true for most part of my life. Growing
up in the heat of the Arabian Gulf, my identity was
forged by the close and sheltered quarters of the
Diasporic Catholic Goans, who huddled together as if
awaiting the Apocalypse.

When I began to work, I encountered the intoxicating
intellectualism of Maharashtrans and Madrassis and my
circle of friends enlarged to include other fellow
Indians. Although we worked alongside Arabs, Europeans
and Filipinos and enjoyed socialising with them at the
workplace, the cultural barriers were never crossed
boldly enough to take them home with us.

Being in the US for the past 6 years though, I am not
at all inclined to make friends along cultural lines.
This is not from lack of opportunity. Being guest
workers, we are in constant contact with other guest
worker Indian families. I am more attracted by
commonality of humour, ideas, education and exposure.
My friends range from American-Asian to
American-Caucasian.

Does this mean that I no longer have a specific
cultural identity of my own? That it has morphed into
a blur of cultures along the way and now almost faded
into oblivion? It would be interesting to know how
other diasporic Goans have evolved culturally during
the course of their lives.

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[Goanet] Website Alert: Renew your Wedding Vows in Goa

[Bosco D'Mello]

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www.renewalsetc.com

If you're a happily married couple and visiting Goa then perhaps now is a 
good time to renew your wedding vows. Alternatively if you've never been to 
Goa then maybe now is the best time to visit this idyllic laidback paradise, 
and renew your wedding vows at the same time.

There are plenty of reasons for renewing your vows. You could be celebrating 
a special anniversary, or maybe just reaffirming your
commitment after a particularly stressful or rocky period. Or perhaps your 
original wedding ceremony was just a formal legal signing of a register, and 
you always wanted something more meaningful and romantic.

Whatever your reasons for renewing your vows, rest assured that the process 
and the ceremony will strengthen your marriage and will give you something 
to cherish for many years. Plus you will have an album full of splendid 
photos that will make everyone envious! Goa's awe inspiring sunsets and our 
carefully chosen open-air venues will ensure that.

A wedding vow renewal ceremony that will fortify your relationship for the 
years to come, combined with the magical warm ambience that Goa provides, 
will give you a wealth of delightful memories to cherish forever.

And if you're not married and have read up to here, then maybe you could 
gift a renewal ceremony to some nice married couple you know that are 
visiting Goa !

-
Love at first sight is easy to understand; it's when two people have been 
looking at each other for a lifetime that it becomes a miracle -
Amy Bloom
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Details at:
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