[Goanet] LESSONS IN LOGIC
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Lessons in Logic If your father is a poor man, it is your fate but, if your father-in-law is a poor man, it's your stupidity. ... I was born intelligent - education ruined me. ... Practice makes perfect. But, nobody's perfect.. so why practice? ... If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for? ... Since light travels faster than sound, people appear bright until you hear them speak. ... How come "abbreviated" is such a long word? ... Money is not everything. There's MasterCard & Visa. ... One should love animals. They are so tasty. ... Behind every successful man, there is a woman And behind every unsuccessful man, there are two. ... Every man should marry. After all, happiness is not the only thing in life. ... The wise never marry. and when they marry they become otherwise. ... Success is a relative term. It brings so many relatives. ... Never put off the work till tomorrow what you can put off today. ... "Your future depends on your dreams" So go to sleep ... There should be a better way to start a day Than waking up every morning ... "Hard work never killed anybody" But why take the risk ... "Work fascinates me" I can look at it for hours ... God made relatives; Thank God we can choose our friends. ... The more you learn, the more you know, The more you know, the more you forget The more you forget, the less you know So.. why learn? ... A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station what more can I say Kind regards, Cyril Pereira ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] OBITUARY: Philip Anthony Baptista
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details OBITUARY Philip Anthony Baptista Husband of : Beatrice Goa, Father/Father-in-law of :Clementine/Carl-Kuwait, Gasper/Lourdes-Kuwait/Goa, Carmen/LouisBahrain, Clarissa-Goa Grand father of : Calvin/Craig/Marc/Maryanna Died at Calangute on Thursday 26th October 2006. Funeral will be held on Friday 27th October 2006 at 10.00 am. Relatives and friends, kindly accept this as the only intimation. Eternal Peace grant Unto him Oh Lord And let Perpetual Light shine Upon him May his soul rest in peace. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] GOA POLLUTION BOARD CHAIRMAN YEARNS FOR THE RED LIGHT
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details The Save Goa Front has expressed dismay at the irony that though some government authorities have abdicated their independent authority in discharging their statutory responsibilities, they have been clamouring for perks and privileges they are not entitled to. Citing the example of Goa State Pollution Control Boards (GSPCB) Chairman, Dr. L.U. Joshi, the Save Goa Front has expressed dismay that Dr Joshi has been frantically lobbying for a red beacon light for his official vehicle even though the Chairman of even the Central Pollution Board is not entitled to one. One speculates as to how the officials of the GSPCB who were too busy to plan a comprehensive program for the prevention, control or abatement of the current pollution and environmental damage to Goa, had all the time to pursue the file of Dr. Joshis request for a red light even though the Director of Transport had at the very outset ruled that the Chairman Dr. Joshi was not entitled to one. Due to Dr. Joshis consistent lobbying, Chief Minister Pratapsingh Rane has now asked the government to check the position at the Maharashtra and Karnataka Pollution Boards. I have yesterday spoken to the Chairman of the Central Pollution Board Mr. J. M. Mauskar, the Chairman of the Maharashtra Pollution Board Smt. Sharwaree Gokhale and the Chairman of the Karnataka Pollution Board Dr. Sharat Chandra and they have all confirmed that none of them are entitled to a red beacon light on their official vehicles. Aires Rodrigues Convenor Save Goa Front Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] MAIMED AND MAULED : GT journalist Simon Alfonso
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details MAIMED AND MAULED : GT journalist Simon Alfonso PANJIM: Maimed and mauled GT journalist Simon Alfonso is being treated at GMC after the physical attack on him allegedly by the Chicalim Sarpanch Raul D'Costa on Wednesday. Though his condition is not alarming, it is serious as doctors as doctors have diagnosed suspected fracture in the spinal cord without any neuro-vascular deficit. Simon who was admitted at the Trauma ward late in the evening on Wednesday was on Friday after shifted to ward no 104. He is at the moment undergoing treatment at GMC and will be out of action for atleast six weeks. Talking to this reporter from the hospital, Simon said, "My fault was that I raised my voice against injustice and supported the villagers in their fight. Is it wrong for a law abiding citizen to raise their voice against injustice? Is the Sarpanch, who is suppose to protect his village and its people, justified in hitting me and causing injuries to me?" According to Simon, he along with villagers were fighting against the Pinky Shipyard's mega project in Chicalim. "We were coming to Panjim. On the way we met Milan Borman at the panchayat premised. I got into a heated argument with him. I didn't realise when the Sarpanch approached me and started punching my face, which left me in shock and pain", he said. "It was unprovoked attack by the Sarpanch", he added. When contacted, Dr Rajan Kunkolienkar, Medical Superintendent, GMC said, "He is undergoing treatment at GMC and his condition is stable." (ENDS) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] MORNACHEA IKRA-VEA VORSACHO UGDASS - FR. SAVIO GAMA
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details MORNACHEA IKRA-VEA VORSACHO UGDASS - FR. SAVIO GAMA Ami omor ugdass dovortoleanv amchea mogall Fr. Savio-cho bettoun povitr misachi bhett Kuwait-che igorjent (Holy Family Cathedral) October-ache 29 tarker 2006, sanjechea 5.45 vorar. Hem mis bettoita : Brazil Diniz. (Navelim/Kuwait) Antonio Francisco Diniz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Sex and the Senior Goan Male
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Perturbed by the increasing phenomenon of several Goan men in their
sunset years taking off for Goa without their wives at the first hint
of coming winters in Canada, I decided to get to the bottom of it.
The first person I thought of questioning was Roque-Carmo ("call me
Rocky") Santana. A dimunutive 5'2" 75 year old Goan senior who walks
with a spring in his step that would be the envy of a 55 year old, he
was as thin as a marsh reed and had the weathery skin of a chameleon.
Rocky could be seen at all Goan dances in Toronto, without his wife of
course, dancing fancy ballroom steps with young girls less than half
his age. Not that he noticed his steps were reminiscent of the Fred
Astaire days of swing, circa 1930. His partners didn't seem to mind
too, seeing this as a welcome change from the hip-hop and other
dance-by-yourself models they are used to these days, where the
partner is welcome but not necessary to the movements.
Cornering Rocky during the break and placing a glass of scotch in his
hands, I got to talking to him.
Me: Hi Rock, how's it going?
Rocky: Good men, you saw me dancing to YMCA?
Me: You were fantastic. How's the wife doing Rock?
Rocky: Oh, she just wants to relax on the weekends while I like to go
here and there.
Me: That might be since you are retired while she has a busy job and
she helps out at the food bank for homeless people in her spare time.
Rocky: May be so, but that doesn't help out with our love life.
Me: What you are you saying Rock?
Rocky: Goan women once they are older, lose all interest in sex, you know?
Me: I don't know, tell me about it.
Rocky: They refuse to try out new things and half the time they say
they have a headache.
Me: Why do you think they do that Rock?
Rocky: Just a Goan thing, men. See those Russian women? They are
asking for it all the time.
Me: You are talking about that young Russian woman I sometimes see you with?
Rocky: (failing to see the difference in ages and the fact that she
takes him for the money) Exactly.
Me: So what's your long term plan?
Rocky: Can't make long term plans at my age, so I just take off for
Goa next week.
Me: Is the wife going with you?
Rocky: (the truth slowly dawning on him) No, She's fed up of me and
says she enjoys her own company when I am out of the house.
Now Rocky at his age is the type of individual who, like a dog chasing
a bicycle would not know what to do with it if he by chance actually
catches up with it, but I say what the heck, Goa benefits from his
tourist dollars, his wife has a much needed break from him, the
Russian woman gets something for nothing, he unfailingly gives me a
half bottle of cashew feni when he returns and Rocky is as happy as a
toad in the monsoons.
In Rocky's case, to each his (or her) own, we are all winners.
Roland.
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Re: [Goanet] Hindu Mass (2)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details --- Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would not like to attend a Hindu Mass, though I > would do just for observation. > Mario observes: > Eugene, We have already shown that there is no such thing as a Hindu Mass? In the Catholic Church there are only traditional and non-traditional Masses and Masses in the vernacular. As long as the essential Catholic Liturgy is followed the respectful use of certain symbols traditionally associated with Hindus which are obviously equivalent to our Christian symbols does not make it a Hindu Mass. > Eugene writes: > > There was no need to have Hindu Mass in a > predominantly Portuguese and Italian area. > Mario asks: > "No need" may be your opinion. It was obviously not the opinion of those who held the Mass. > Eugene writes: > > Indian liturgy is evolving. There has been demand > for a "Indian church". Here on goanet, someone wrote > about Fr. Conceisaco Rodrigues. I have had > discussions with him when he was at Fr. Agnelo's at > Bandra, and he once or twice came to see me in my > office at The Hindu. He was one who wanted the > Indian government to have the right to appoint > Cardinals in India. As I could see, he thought the > Indian government would appoint him because of his > work in Goa's freedom movement and his close > contact with the then Indian PM Jawaharlal Nehru. > Unfortunately, the Indian government didn't want to > get into this muddle. The government didn't want to > risk its relationship with the Vatican. Fr. > Rodrigues didn't have his wish fulfilled. > Mario observes: > If you have described him accurately, I would consider Fr. Rodrigues a heretic. > Besides, it is patently absurd for him to ask the Indian Government to get involved in controlling and influencing a specific religion in a secular country such as India. It has nothing to do with risking relations with the Vatican. Mother Theresa would not even take money from the Indian Government or any other government agency. > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] May our eyes be opened.....
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Dear Nasci, >From the early days of Christianity, anyone who spoke out against it was called 'Anti-Christ' and maligned as Satanic (according to the made-up theology of Good and Evil). Thankfully, that is no longer true in this day and age when it is widely acknowledged that the basis of ALL organized religion has more to do with POWER and less to do with salvation of the nebulous 'soul'. That having been said, unfortunately Goa Sudharop is going to have to manage their financial committments without your Rs.10/- donation as I am unlikely to stop posting against the indiscriminate evangelizing on this secular forum. I do have an issue with the moderators allowing Mr. Botelho's formatted posts to this list, though, inspite of clear written rules against it. I will continue to comment on any blatant evangelical postings to this list despite your (and others, eg. Bernard Colaco's recent rant of the 'Hindu Mass' as another evil perpetrated on society) protestations. Let me also take this opportunity to share a recent pearl of wisdom (appended below with links) that didn't come from any 'Good Book'. I may not always be able to follow it's advice but I continue to try. The recent reconciliation between Peter and Santosh is a good example of this. May your Lord be with you. Sincerely, Kevin Saldanha, Mississauga, ON. October 24, 2006 The Strength Of Compassion Coming At Conflict With An Open Heart Conflict is an unavoidable part of our lives because our beliefs and modes of being often contrast powerfully with those of our loved ones, acquaintances, and associates. Yet for all the grief disagreements can cause, we can learn much from them. The manner in which we handle ourselves when confronted with anger or argument demonstrates our overall level of patience and the quality of our energetic states. To resolve conflict, no matter how exasperating the disagreement at hand, we should approach our adversary with an open heart laden with compassion. Judgments and blame must be cast aside and replaced with mutual respect. Conflict is frequently motivated by unspoken needs that are masked by confrontational attitudes or aggressive behavior. When we come at conflict with love and acceptance in our hearts, we empower ourselves to discover a means to attaining collective resolution. The key to finding the wisdom concealed in conflict is to ask yourself why you clash with a particular person or situation. Your inner self or the universe may be trying to point you to a specific life lesson, so try to keep your ears and eyes open. Once you have explored the internal and external roots of your disagreement, make a conscious effort to release any anger or resentment you feel. As you do so, the energy between you and your adversary with change perceptibly, even if they are still operating from a more limited energy state. Consider that each of you likely has compelling reasons for thinking and feeling as you do, and accept that you have no power to change your adversary's mind. This can help you approach your disagreement rationally, with a steady voice and a willingness to compromise. If you listen thoughtfully and with an empathetic ear during conflict, you can transform clashes into opportunities to compromise. Examine your thoughts and feelings carefully. You may discover stubbornness within yourself that is causing resistance or that you are unwittingly feeding yourself negative messages about your adversary. As your part in disagreements becomes gradually more clear, each new conflict becomes another chance to further hone your empathy, compassion, and tolerance. Click for your free DailyCD: http://www.dailycd.com/cgi-bin/userinfo/settings.cgi?subscribe=1&from=dailyo m Share the OM: To email this to a friend, click: http://www.dailyom.com/cgi-bin/email/emailfriend.cgi?articleid=5332 Original Message: - From: Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:45:16 +1000 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] "May our eyes be opened. Kevin, Me thought U are an expert VET only! U seem to be trying to be the self appointed 'expert' Anti Christ! Do you have no other business to write about other than just criticise what some write about Jesus and his preaching. You also questioned before, that Fr Jude Bothelo is inadvertantly advertising Jesus and Christianity on goanet! And what are you
[Goanet] Lusofonia-Sábado-28Outubro
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details CENTRO DE LÍNGUA PORTUGUESA/ INSTITUTO CAMÕES GOA-ÍNDIA Actividades Culturais - 28 Outubro O Centro de Língua Portuguesa/ Instituto Camões, em colaboração com o Departamento de Português da Universidade de Goa, tem vindo a organizar várias actividades com o objectivo de divulgar as Culturas Lusófonas, culturas dos oito países de língua portuguesa que fazem parte da CPLP (Comunidade dos Países de Língua Portuguesa: Portugal, Brasil, Angola, Moçambique, Cabo Verde, Guiné-Bissau, São Tomé e Príncipe e Timor Lorosae). Complementando o curso sobre Culturas Lusófonas e abertas ao público interessado, haverá actividades culturais como a projecção de filmes, documentários e música relacionada com cada um dos países citados. No Sábado, dia 28 de Outubro, a sessão será dedicada a Cabo Verde. A partir das 16h.30m.(04.30 p.m.), será divulgada a música de Cabo Verde na voz de Cesária Évora, a grande Diva da morna caboverdiana. O curso e as actividades culturais terão lugar todos os sábados à tarde nas instalações do Centro de Língua Portuguesa/ Instituto Camões (CLP/ IC ),AGVA HOUSE, 9/32 Dr. Dada Vaidya Road, Panaji. Para mais informações, favor contactar o CLP/IC (telefone: 6647737) -- -- -- -- Cultural activities - October 28th. Centro de Língua Portuguesa/ Instituto Camões in collaboration with the Department of Portuguese, Goa University, have been organizing several activities aimed at divulging Culturas Lusófonas, the cultures of the eight Portuguese Speaking Countries that are part of CPLP (Comunidade dos Países de Língua Portuguesa : Portugal, Brasil, Angola, Mocambique, Cabo Verde, Guiné-Bissau, São Tomé e Príncipe, Timor Lorosae). Complementary to a short course on "Culturas Lusofonas" and opened to those interested there will be the screening of films, documentaries and music related to each one of the said countries. This Saturday session, October 28th., will focus on Cabo Verde. From 04.30 p.m., Cabo Verde music will be divulged through the voice of Cesaria Evora, the Diva of the morna. The course and the cultural activities will take place every Saturday afternoon at the premises of Centro de Língua Portuguesa/ Instituto Camões ( CLP/IC ), AGVA HOUSE, 9/32 Dr. Dada Vaidya Road, Panaji. For further information, please contact the office (phone 6647737) Centro de Língua Portuguesa/ Instituto Camões AGVA HOUSE, 9/32 Dr. Dada Vaidya Road, Panaji-403001GOA-ÍNDIA Tel: 0832 6647737 «» E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] A woman without a culture of her own
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details On 26/10/06, Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I once attended a seminar where the audience was asked > this question. If you are in a room full of people who > are you most likely to gravitate towards? The answer > apparently was, the person who is most like you > culturally. > > This has been true for most part of my life. Growing > up in the heat of the Arabian Gulf, my identity was > forged by the close and sheltered quarters of the > Diasporic Catholic Goans, who huddled together as if > awaiting the Apocalypse... RESPONSE: Here's my experience. Having been brought up in Nairobi, Kenya within the confines of the Goan Community, there was never any doubt that I would marry a Goan girl! There was also a strong gravitational pull towards Goans as that was my make up! We had Goans who stayed in Compounds which had Gujaratis or Punjabis...to their credit they can speak the respective languages proficiently. I have never ever had a problem mixing with different people; I must admit though, that the English folks especially in the Armed Forces, were a difficult lot and I did have to endure a lot of sarcasm, even if said in jest...an example, the person knocked into you in the dark because he couldn't see you ! I have found Americans much more accommodating, they don't much care about your colour only what you are worth to them ! Perhaps they do have a problem with Blacks and Latinos... for instance, with a surname as Fernandez or Gouveia, one bright spark Republican sent letters to 14,000 Latino sounding surnames warning them that illegals could not vote ! In the early years here in the U.K. the likes of myself longed to meet other Goans. That was why 40 years ago there was a meeting to form the G.O.A. U.K. When Goans met, we felt at home ! We would reminisce and drink to the good old days in Nairobi ! Years later when I landed in Singapore, the first thing we did was to visit the 'Portuguese Church' in Bras Basah, specifically to try and meet Goans. We did meet quite a few Goans and then took up the role of organizing some of the do's. We did the same later on in Hong Kong. I had made a lot of friends among the locals and boy, they loved Lily's Sorpotel and they would finish the lot and then go home...typical Singaporeans...eat and leave! I also had a lot of White friends in Singapore, Hong Kong and the Middle East. Try as we might, I can honestly say I have no close friend, who is white! I have a few who are Singaporeans ! Goans whether we like them or not will always form our mainstay; after all all our relations are Goans. Aside from family I have grown distant towards some Goans because of my bad experiences, with my stint as the President of the G.O.A. U.K. A few were out to discredit and tarnish; years later the promised retraction never transpired. It was a case of please sign and state that you will not take any legal action and then we shall retract ! This is the stance taken. There were denials and misrepresentations, for instance it was stated that no transfer of documents or accounts were passed on to the next Committee. When the signature was shown, there was no apology. As a matter of fact the person who denied is now a Legal Director of the Association ! Said and done, these reprobates will not and cannot turn us against Goans. I have even crossed the road to help a fellow Goan who was being attacked..my sons follow this same inclination. Now this the crux; would I now cross the road to help one of my accusers if they were in dire straits? I think not! Would I ever take up a post on the Board on the G.O.A. ? Would I open up my cheque book as I had done in the dire dry years ? No way. It is just as well that the Association now is self funding. That said, I am and we are Goans at heart and although I see the younger generation veering away from things Goans, there are some youngsters who still click with mainly Goans. -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Lyrics of Konkani song ?BOSIR OXEM GHODDTA? by Souza Boy
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Goa is renowned for over-packed buses with passengers. You will not find buses plying tilted anywhere else except on Goa roads and thats because although a bus load capacity is say 50 passengers with an allowance for 10 standing, there will be as many standing passengers as can be accommodated in the isle of a bus, and at least 10 passengers each hanging by the front and back doors resulting in too much weight on one side, thus giving the bus a tilt. By looking at the over-packed buses I have always wondered if they would make it safely to their destination without toppling into the fields but surprisingly they do. Over-packing of buses with passengers is not something new but we have inherited it from the previous regime days. Even private taxis then followed the same system. As we know, the average sitting capacity of a car is 5 persons including the driver, but during the Portuguese regime private taxi drivers would pack the car like sardines in a tin. The car owner would say: Sogleankuch ghora vochonk zai; hoi ki nam? Tor, matxim fattim-fuddem govon bosat num! Barik assa tannem manddier boschem. (Everybody wants to go home; isn't it? So, adjust yourselves back-and-forth and be seated. Lean persons please sit on the lap.) Thus, he would fit 8 persons on the back seat and 3-4 persons on the front seat. He then would take his seat and take charge of the steering. He was never able to sit straight. So, he would twist his body and fit himself against the window. He then had a problem he could not change gears. So, he would request the guys sitting on the front seat to keep pushing towards the window on their side to enable him move the gear. Once he was able to use the gear, he would say: A-h-h-h-h! Atam tumi sucegad bossat; ami rokdinch ghora pavteleanv. (A-h-h-h-h! Now you all can sit at ease; we shall soon reach home.) The person(s) bearing the weight of another passenger on his/her lap knew exactly what the word ease meant. By the time they got home, their legs would be numb from the weight and it took them some time to walk properly after they exited the car. The fare from Mapusa to Assagão or Anjuna was the same; it didnt matter whether one got down at Vollan in Assagão, which is just down the slope as you enter Assagão, or at Danddo extreme end of Anjuna. The best thing was that nobody complained either about the car being jam-packed with passengers or the fare. When the cars were jam-packed, drivers never went from the front of the Quartel (police station) but they always made use of the "No Entry" road behind the police station. Post-liberation, Goas population has more than doubled and transportation has increased by leaps and bounds but it is still not enough the buses continue to be over-packed and ply tilted on roads. There is increase in passengers during the summer when many of our brothers and sisters from the neighboring states return home for summer holidays. Many employees use buses to commute daily to work and one would think they would run into trouble to get to work during the summer, but this does not happen as the bus drivers stop and pick up their daily passengers no matter how packed the bus is. Here again, nobody complains. Sometimes some passengers lose their temper and ask the klinder (cleaner): Arre ubo/ubem ravonk zago nam ani tum anik passenger ghetoch asa, amchea mathear bosoita kitem? (There is no place to stand and you keep on receiving more passengers, are you going to make them sit on our heads?) At that the klinder replies: To/tem amchem sodanchem giraik; tuka oddchon zata zalear tujean sokol denvonk zata. (He/she is our daily customer; if you feel uncomfortable, you may get down.) Obviously, nobody wants to get down and the journey continues without any more arguments or complaints. Here are the lyrics of a comedy song titled Bosir oxem ghoddta in which Souza Boy explains what happens in a passenger-packed bus and how bread get pressed inside 'bags' in the process. BOSIR OXEM GHODDTA by Souza Boy I Pattim Natalanchea festak, bail-bhurgeank ghevn bhair sorlolom ghora vochonk Ponnje prasar pavtokoch bosir choddlim punn zago naslolo bosonk Pattlea daraxim ravon eklo fuddem voch mhunno punn vatt nasleli fuddem ghusonk Bosin lokak poilear distalem chiklan mani ghatleat kusonk Chorus Bhor, bhor, bhor
[Goanet] Clarification regarding misinformation
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Hi Santosh, Thanks for your willingness to demonstrate to me your research on this topic. Looking at (a list of) titles is a pretty poor way to know the contents of the paper. Would you not say so? Yet, I will make it much easier on you. Please fax me the papers that your friend Jayant referred to in his post with your thoughts / comments on those papers. My fax number is 315-624-5370. If you care to snail-mail them to me instead, my address is: Department of Radiation Oncology, Regional Cancer Center, Faxton-St. Luke's Hospital, 1676 Sunset Avenue, Utica, NY 13502. I look forward to reading the four or five papers and your comments and discussion on EACH of them. Very likely, as soon as Jayant sent you his post, you read these papers and undertook a detailed and critical analysis of the data and conclusions. Hence, this chore of mailing to me the material (that you have) should be 'a piece of cake'. Similarly if your protege Sunith (and others) did this research, he is welcome to e-mail / mail me his analysis of the data and conclusions of his reading of these papers. My thanks in anticipation for your efforts. I am eagerly awaiting to read your scientific views on some scientific papers. No more 'fuggdi'. Rautam tujea borea respostak. Kind Regards, GL - Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if you need a list of all research papers published since 1957, dealing with in vivo mouse experiments related to cancer, then please let me know. I will email it to you. --- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It is laughable to claim, that you went "through the published literature on >animal experiments related to this issue, over the past 50 years." > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] ET: Russian mafia's building it up in Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Besides the Russian Mafia there is also the presence of the Israeli mafia who are mainly made up of Russian Jews settled in Israel but who are mobile for criminal purposes within North America where they are slowly gaining control of the flesh trade within the escort and nightclub services, credit cards, internet scams and of course the drug trade. Indian (read Bombay) organized crime groups have long settled in Goa (for the past 25 or more years), making it an alternate base of operations. Some of these groups and sub-groups are partners with Pakistan's organized crime for the purpose of heroin smuggling from the overland Afghanistan route and the sea route from Dubai. Their Muslim element (the Dawood gang) work in co-ordination with Pakistan's ISI who provide them with both petty cash (when they are temporarily hindered by money laundering constraints) and international intelligence to enable inter-country movement. A few of these groups have Goan surrogates with influence reaching to ministerial levels. Add to this dangerous cocktail the Kashmir connection who have partnerships with the Colombian Cartels for whom money is no hurdle and provide the cartel a much needed but silent and low key route for transporting their products from Colombia to Jamaica to Europe to Pakistan to Kashmir to Goa, to the Near, Middle and Far East markets. Many more numerous and substantial fortunes are being made by people in Goa used as tools of these criminals, including by politicians in Goa who knowingly or otherwise enable or actively assist these criminal enterprises to flourish. Infinitely more than the fortunes made through legitimate industry, commerce and sale of ancestral property. With the moral and ethical (lack thereof) standards prevailing in Goa, the system of justice being administered, the police kept busy with their own widespread corruption and the general apathy of the common people themselves, it is only a matter of time when some inter-gang war breaks out that is bound to affect the prevailing peace and harmony. Worse still, it is only a matter of time when international or local terrorists decide that a major incident is necessary to divert attention from the criminals or to seek revenge against some imaginary or real grievance, communal or otherwise that is carried over to Goa from some conflagration somewhere within the rest of India. Once that fire is lit, a suicide bomber with his own internal fire, cannot be very far behind. Unimaginable and fanciful though it might seem, it is better to be personally prepared and aware than cry after the damage is done. Roland. On 10/25/06, Goanet News Service wrote: > TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2006 12:28:41 AM] > > NEW DELHI: The National Security Council (NSC) has said the Russian > mafia is making huge real estate investments in Goa. In a document detailing > potential threats to national security via FDI, the NSC said the Russian > mafia is using the real estate route to pump in money as the sector comes > under automatic approval, requiring little scrutiny. The NSC, which has been > arguing the need for identifying sensitive sectors and locations for FDI, > said there was a need for reviewing such investments. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] "May our eyes be opened.....
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details --- Fr. Jude wrote: > > Today we have eliminated many of the diseases that > cause blindness, and we have invented all kinds of > devices to improve our seeing. We have ordinary > glasses and bifocals, magnifying glasses, field > glasses, telescopes and microscopes, contact lenses > and lens implants. But has our seeing improved? > Sometimes we just refuse to see! Can we see with the > eyes of faith? Have an insightful weekend! > --- Kevin Saldanha, a.k.a. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > so that we may see and follow Jesus today!" > > Myopia cannot be helped by sticking one's nose into > a Bible. > Mario observes: > Hey, Kevin, a.k.a. Saligao, > What a great example you have given us in your pithy response above, vividly illustrating exactly what Fr. Jude was referring to. Thank you. > "None So Blind As Those Who WILL NOT See" - especially when magnified by a touch of supreme hubris. > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] List of 'family tiatrists', can you add some more ??
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Hi there, You may include in your list Husband/Wife/Son: Mr. Sylvester/Irene/Jeramiah Vaz Thanks Magban From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] List of 'family tiatrists', can you add some more ?? Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:01:54 +0100 (BST) * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details List of 'family/members tiatrists', can you add some more ?? I was trying to compile a list of all living 'family' members/tiatrists like brothers, sisters, father/mother-son/daughter, husband-wife etc. (Close family only -No Cousins & Nieces) Eg. Peter-Roshan-Brian-Brenzer Augustin-son (pl name) Domnic-Luis johnd silva-son (pl name) Milagres-Hazel Aplon-felcy Aliston-aaron Socor de st cruz -daughter (pl name) Ophelia-babli Prince Jacob-Humbert Mini-mario-Bladwin Sharon-wilson Tomazin-wife/Irene Young chico-Junior Chico Anil-Fatima ? Anil-Olga ? H Britton-T.Britton ? Jack Rodson-Maria Roseferns-Agima Rita Rose-Engelbert/Schubert Elvis-wife (pl name) Can you please add some more ?? Thanks for your help. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] "May our eyes be opened.....
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Kevin, Me thought U are an expert VET only! U seem to be trying to be the self appointed 'expert' Anti Christ! Do you have no other business to write about other than just criticise what some write about Jesus and his preaching. You also questioned before, that Fr Jude Bothelo is inadvertantly advertising Jesus and Christianity on goanet! And what are you doing? Isn't your uninvited forays, advertising for atheist dogma and for being the Anti Christ? I therefore kindly request you to shut up and desist from trying to ill talk Christianity and the Faith of Christians. I am sure that 'YOU' are the blind person here! You read, you look, but you do not really SEE! Put your nose into the Bible and You will start really SEEING Again ! I gaurantee you that, if only you believe and do the same in full faith. Want to try it? I do volunteer to donate Rs 10/- only to Goa Sudharop, if you Stop Writing to goanet as the anti Christ! That's your worth! You are so 'poor in spirit'! See Ya, Nasci Caldeira Melbourne, Down Under. --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so that we may see and follow Jesus today!" > > Myopia cannot be helped by sticking one's nose into > a Bible. > > Kevin Saldanha > Mississauga, ON. > > --- > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 05:23:40 +0100 (BST) > From: Jude Botelho > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] Thirtieth > Sunday of the Year > Dear Friend, > Today we have eliminated many of the diseases that > cause blindness, and w= > e have invented all kinds of devices to improve our > seeing. We have ordinar= > y glasses and bifocals, magnifying glasses, field > glasses, telescopes and m= > icroscopes, contact lenses and lens implants. But > has our seeing improved? = > Sometimes we just refuse to see! Can we see with the > eyes of faith? Have an= > insightful weekend! Fr. Jude Do you Yahoo!? Help K-Zone create the longest line of footprints and break a world record http://www.kzone.com.au/display.cfm?ObjectID=FB378E31-10DA-493F-B97AE3065F22180E ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Lonely Planet... Goa... and Firefox
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Vincente, In Goa, almost all cybercafes have the Mozzilla Firefox browser installed in addition to I.Explorer. Do you know that MicroSoft team in Redmond Seattle has sent a signed 'Cake' congratulating the Firefox team in Mountain View California, wrt their new browser ? However MS has released their own 'I. Explorer 7' a few days beforehand, that is as good as, with tabbed browsing etc; and so the fair competition goes on and on! And where are all the Indian IIT's? Too busy managing call centres/IPO's? Nasci Caldeira Melbourne, Down Under. --- Vincente Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On a side note, i would highly recommend internet > users in goa > specially the one using dial-up access with > different ISP to use > firefox browser. > Sorry Goanetters it is not goa related but would > definately help my > fellow netters in goa. > > Vincente. > > Links to Goa on Lonely Planet... courtesy the > 'Lonely Planet' plugin > > for the FIrefox browser. And, Firefox 2.0 is just > out. Download it and > > use it to browse stably and speedily. > > > [http://search.lonelyplanet.com/query.html?qt=Goa&nh=20&sourceid=mozilla-search] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo!7 Time Capsule - Make your mark and be a part of history http://www.yahoo7.com.au/timecapsule ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Book release: Abbe Faria: The Master Hypnotist who charmedNapoleon
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details The following is not correct: «A Jesuit priest, Abbe Faria was one of the first to study hypnosis scientifically. Faria claimed that hypnosis worked purely by the power of suggestion, a thesis that is now accepted throughout the world». Jose Custodio de Faria was not a Jesuit but a secular (diocesan) priest. And his father's name was not CaetanA VictoRIO de Faria but CaetanO VictoRINO de Faria. Jorge - Original Message - From: "Goanet A&E" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:55 AM Subject: [Goanet] Book release: Abbe Faria: The Master Hypnotist who charmedNapoleon > > PRESS RELEASE > > > New Delhi, October 22, 2006, Ritana Books launched the new book ABBE > FARIA: > THE MASTER HYPNOTIST WHO CHARMED NAPOLEON written by Diogo Mesana > Fernandes. > > > > Shri S C Jamir, The Governor of Goa, released the book today at Habitat > Centre, New Delhi, in the presence of distinguished guests and media. > Rajat > K Sharma read the excerpts from the book. Dr Yogesh Choudhury, a clinical > hypnotherapist spoke on the relevance and use of Hypnosis, [as discovered > by > Abbe Faria] as a therapeutical tool today. The Author Diogo Fernandes > spoke > of the tremendous research that went into the preparation of the book. He > felt that the book accurately brings out the trials and tribulations that > Abbe Faria suffered during the course of his work with hypnosis. The book > goes a step further to bring to life the philosophy of Abbe Faria. He > felt > the book must be read and debated upon. > > Mr S C Jamir Governor of Goa, felt that the work of Abbe Faria should be > popularized. > > Speaking on the occasion Mr Rock Furtado, Publisher, Ritana Books said > that > the book is a not only a biography of Abbe Faria but it essentially covers > the work that Abbe Faria did on the subject of Past Life Regression and > Hypnotherapy from the perspective of a lay reader. The understanding and > appreciation that one gets on reading the book is phenomenal. That Abbe > Faria practiced hypnosis on Napoleon and others and got positive results, > almost two centuries ago, would go a long way in bringing back this > phenomenal and fascinating subject to the forefront. > > > About the Book > > Abbe Faria was born Jose Custodio de Faria on May 31,1756 to Goan parents, > CaetanaVictorio de Faria and Rosa Maria de Sousa, of Candolim Village in > Goa, India. > > A Jesuit priest, Abbe Faria was one of the first to study hypnosis > scientifically. Faria claimed that hypnosis worked purely by the power of > suggestion, a thesis that is now accepted throughout the world. > > Faria discovered a scientific explanation for hypnotism and clairvoyance. > He was also the first to propose a psychological theory for examining the > phenomenon of somnambulism, giving the therapeutical suggestions in an > extraordinary manner. Recognizing his contribution to the progress of > medical science, Faria was made Member of the Medical Society of > Marseilles-no mean achievement in those times for a non-medical person. > > During his stay in Paris, he was the most talked about and written about > subject of his time. He had praises and abuses showered upon him by > newspapers in France and elsewhere. He acquired a reputation as a > magnetizer and hypnotist in Marseilles. > > Faria became a trusted counselor and friend of Napoleon Bonaparte. The > Emperor was very impressed with Faria's skills and vast knowledge of the > esoteric science. Faria gave Napoleon the priceless French translation of > Chinese manuscript THE ART OF WAR. Napoleon cherished the gift, learning > from it and keeping it with him all through his victorious years. About a > century later Dwight Eisenhower, the American President who made good use > of > it during his days as a general, bought the manuscripts. > > Abbe Faria died in Paris on September 20,1819, leaving behind several > books > and papers on hypnotism and the occult sciences. > > In the 250th year of Faria's birth, this book is a special tribute to one > of > India's earliest hypnotherapists. > > > About the Author: > > Diogo Mesana Fernandes was born in Goa on October 9, 1942. He is a > journalist and has worked with various newspapers in Mumbai and Goa. He > contributes articles and stories to newspapers and magazines in Macau. > His > published works include THE GOLDEN CENSER, SIR RICHARD BURTON OF THE > THOUSAND NIGHTS AND A NIGHT FAME, THE GODDESS WHO CAME
[Goanet] GLOBAL GOANS website launched.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Goans world wide would most sincerely appreciate the launching of the www.globalgoans.org.in today. Kindly browse through the same and offer your comments GODFREY J. I. GONSALVES, BORDA, MARGAO, 403 602, GOA. (INDIA) +91 98221 58584 (24 HRS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers.yahoo.com/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Donations for not posting to GoaNet
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details On 23/10/06, Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a side-bar discussion I found people offering vast sums of money to > charity if a particular person of their choice stopped posting to GoaNet > for a period of two months. > > I, Cecil Pinto, hereby would like to a beneficiary of these generous > offers. For Rs. 45,000/- (or nearest offer) I too will stop posting to > GoaNet for this period. Please make Pay Order in the name "Cecil Pinto". > > Cheers! > > Cecil RESPONSE: Not true, there was never any offer made to anyone, to not post on Goanet. There was a bet made that there was no way that a particular individual would stop posting on Goanet, simply because Goanet is the life and food for the particular individual ! That you are asking someone to pay you to not post is another issue altogether, nice try! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] [OFFTOPIC] Sounds like Goa? ... this is Bali
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details CAN THE "REAL BALI" BE SAVED? by Alistair Speirs [Managing Director, Indo Multi Media, Indonesia] For those of you visiting Bali for the first time, welcome and enjoy yourselves to the absolute maximum! Bali is a marvelous place to have a holiday and I certainly don't want to scare you off. We need more visitors to come and enjoy the beauty of this magical island. And you will! But, and there always is a 'but' isn't there, Bali ain't what it used to be, and is in danger of changing from the "Bali we want it to be" if we are not very, very careful. Bali, in the minds of millions of tourists and armchair tourists around the world, is the epitome of tropical, exotic travel, where beautiful native girls dance to the hypnotic pounding of gongs in temples and palaces surrounded by lush terraces of paddy fields, and palm trees wave in the gentle breezes as the sunset cocktails are sipped. Idyllic indeed! The reality is that while that aspect is still (just) available, an absolute army of developers, traders, retailers, restauranters and industrialists are doing everything they can to dig up pristine Bali while still using the exotic Bali image they are destroying to sell their wares! And it's happening quickly. Just 25 years ago Bali was still the green, lush island that we (or at least I) want it to be. Now it's disappearing behind a mass of billboards, shop houses, high rise malls, villa developments (with 20m high walls), and it seems we are powerless to stop it. Why? It appears that even at the highest levels there is no connection between the preservation (never mind protection, enhancement, and improvement) of the tourism product and the every day unplanned development that continues unabated. Bali, after two sad and meaningless bombings, has lost much of its appeal in the tourist markets of the world and arrivals are at a very low ebb. Does that mean the authorities take a long hard look at what the island has become and start to put things right? It seems not. The building of 'rukos' (shop houses) continues unabated, the proliferation of incredibly unsightly billboards accelerates, the destruction of beautiful farmland for 'un-necessary' housing rockets forward, and roads are pushed into fields and immediately lined with low quality buildings (which should be zoned off into industrial estates). Until now, from Canggu to Jimbaran, from Sanur to Nusa Dua, there is hardly a visible trace of 'Bali': only buildings, workshops, showrooms, factories, billboards, and offices. All of them 'businesses' that depend on having a dynamic, desired tourism product called Bali! Yet there are regulations, which I believe still exist, that say every building must reflect Balinese culture and tradition, that no building should be higher than a coconut tree, and that all buildings and developments should respect Balinese traditions and community needs first. This simply is not being enforced at all and in my opinion presents more danger to the future of Bali tourism than the threat of terrorism ever will. There are millions of sea, sand and sun, fun, food, and frolic destinations around the world, cheaper and closer to main markets and with little to distinguish them except the price and the temperature. This is not what Bali should be, but as we watch and do nothing that's what it is turning into—quickly. Bali is, and must always be, a place where tradition should take precedence over development, where culture must take the nod over shopping, where nature must win over malls, where gamelan gets the license not discos, where not one more square meter of productive, beautiful paddy field is turned into villas. If not, we'll be sitting here in 10 years time with a million villas, all of them bought by people "looking for Bali" and finding nothing but fast food, malls, traffic jams, discos, restaurants, more shops, more offices and more motorbikes than they left behind in the 'industrialized' west. Does anyone care? I hope so, and that as millions of dollars are being spent to lure people back to Bali, equal amounts of money –or at least energy– can be spent preserving the beauty, tradition, culture and heritage of this marvelous and irreplaceable island. Because once it's gone, we won't get it back. ABOUT TRAVEL IMPACT NEWSWIRE Set up in August 1998, Travel Impact Newswire is the Asia-Pacific's first email travel industry news feature and analysis servic
Re: [Goanet] Hindu Mass
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Are you sure you can use one case (which didn't either succeed, if we go by Eugene's word for it) to reach such a broad conclusion? Didn't a whole set of others have the holy ear of the Portuguese? What about them? You could either see Pintos or Timojas, depending on the side of history you want to be on. My point is that there are two (or many more) sides of the "truth". --FN On 26/10/06, Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here on goanet, someone wrote about > > Fr. Conceisaco Rodrigues. I have had discussions > > with > > him when he was at Fr. Agnelo's at Bandra, and he > > once > > or twice came to see me in my office at The Hindu. > > He was one who wanted the Indian government to have > > the right to appoint Cardinals in India. As I could > > see, he thought the Indian government would appoint > > him because of his work in Goa's freedom movement > > and > > his close contact with the then Indian PM Jawaharlal > > Nehru. > > Shades of the "Pinto revolt". > > You can see how Goa was manipulated (and is still > being manipulated) by a few who want to rise to the > top by corrupt means, even if it means sacrificing the > people of Goa. > > Gabriel. -- -- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/ Free Software gives you the freedom to run, study, copy and improve software! ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Open Letter to Margaret Alva, AICC Secretary
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Diana Pinto, House No. 319, Sonarvaddo, Nagoa, Verna, Salcete, Goa - 403 722 Tel: 2783324 October 26, 2006 Dear Ms. Margaret Alva, SUB : CAN WE TRUST THE FUTURE OF GOA TO THE CONGRESS PARTY When the people of Goa hear the AICC General Secretary chant the "development mantra" and urge the Rane Government to pursue and complete "public oriented projects" on a war footing, there is no doubt in our minds that the Assembly elections are around the corner. But Ms. Alva, just as the Congress Party is planning for this crucial exercise, we, the people of Goa are faced with doubts and apprehensions churning in our minds, as we are confronted with two disturbing questions : 1) Can we really trust the future of Goa to the Congress Party for the next five years? 2) At the end of five years what will Goa be if it continues to be in the hands of a Congress Government? And it is not only the people of Goa whose faith in the Congress is faltering. The actions of your own elected MLAs and MPs scream from the rooftops that the policies of the Congress Government in Goa are certainly not people or "public oriented" as you so naively assume. We have the Honourable Member of Parliament Mr. Churchill Alemao give a rousing battle cry that he will have the people on the streets if the six lane expressway or the new controversial airport at Mopa is implemented. He also loses no opportunity to take pot shots publicly at the Navelim MLA Mr. Luizinho Faleiro. Up North, we are treated to the spectacle of two Congress MLAs Ms. Victoria Fernandes and Mr. Babush Monserate turn the football field into a battlefield. And as a grand climax, two Congress heavyweights, the Chief Minister Mr. Rane himself and the GPCC President Mr. Ravi Naik, have made it abundantly clear that they are not on the same side of the fence Congress brotherhood notwithstanding. All this has made us clearly see that if the policies and functioning of the Goa Congress Government are unacceptable to their own members, then the people of Goa need to be extremely wary and suspicious of the capacity and competence of the Congress party to look after the interests of Goa. Tell us Ms. Alva, does the Congress Party have a vision for Goa? Does the new Goa Regional Plan 2011 mooted by your Congress Government encapsulate the Party's vision for Goa, wherein our beautiful villages and heritage will be systematically urbanised,concretised and decimated at the cost of the local populace and farmers. It is indeed ridiculous that lakhs of square meters of forest lands, mangroves, paddy fields etc. have been earmarked for settlement when the Congress Government in Goa, has shown its abysmal inability to deal with a simple issue like garbage disposal management, which is a natural fallout of settlements. The Power Minister Mr. Digambar Kamat has publicly stated that there is a shortage of 50 mw power during peak hours. The people of Goa are also facing regular disruption in public water supply And yet, the Goa Regional Plan 2011 has brazenly created grandiose blueprints for the setting up of six new townships even while failing to address the existing problems of the common man and maintain existing infrastructure. Priorities of the Congress Government are evident from the fact that there seems to be a dearth of funds to even restore a non functioning morgue so that our dead can rest in peace.Yet, crores of the tax payer's money is being lavishly splashed to ostentatiously entertain the so called elite at IFFI, even as our public health facilites have decayed and crumbled, and the ordinary citizen struggles for unaffordable medical treatment. But then, all this fits in with the image of an insensitve Government that keeps the roads in a deplorable condition while tantalising the public with the vision of a new six lane expressway. And a Government that inflicts SEZs on our little state by acquiring prime private property and farm lands ostensibly for a "public purpose", and then handing it over to private parties who are in it solely for profits. The Government's largesse to them extends even to the extent of foregoing much needed state revenue through tax exemptions and tax holidays. Rosy projections of employment opportunities for locals are used to hoodwink the people. The ground realities alas, are the creation of jobs suited for hordes of migrants that descend from states like Karnataka, Bihar, Orissa and Uttar Pradesh. Any
Re: [Goanet] HINDU MASS
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details In Ahmedabad, Gujarat, there were masses in English, Konkani, Malyalam(?sp) and Gujarati. In Bombay you have masses in Marathi, English and Konkani aand possibly in othe laanguaages. And Betim is NOT the only parish in Goa which does not have an English mass, there are many more including Se Cathedral, the Bishop's parish. - Original Message - From: "Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:57 AM Subject: [Goanet] HINDU MASS > > * G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * > > House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr >Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona > No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only > > Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details > > Folks, > > I just cannot figure out this debate on Goanet about 'HINDU MASS'. What > does this mean. I have lived in a lot of different places in India. When > my father was transferred to his batttilon's regimental centre in Nasirabad, > south of Ajmer,(Rajasthan) very often we used to go to a nearby village for > sunday mass. Most of these villagers were converts. Shoes were left > outside, as in Hindu temples, women wore the gungat (covering the face with > palo of sari). The priest actually had to open the gungat to offer > communion. Is this a Hindu Mass? aarti was performed for the benefit of > these people. > > very recently went to Bhopal (Madhya Pradesh) and attended a mass. We had > to sit on the floor, mass was in Hindi and again aarti performed. How do > you call this a Hindu mass. > > Everywhere in India, we have masses in English, except in my village Betim. > I had an altercation with a priest, and he said,' this is Goa and the > language is Konkani, so the mass will be Konkani'. You can learn the > language. 12 years I've lived in Mumbai, first at Colaba then on Malabar > Hill. Never once there was a mass in Marathi. Lived in Gujarat, no mass in > Gujarathi. > > When MotherTheresa was beatified in Rome, Bengali girls danced and sang in > Bengali. Is this being Hindu. In my opinion all relgions are the same, how > we chose to follow it depends on us. > > Regards > Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami > > ___ > Goanet mailing list > Goanet@lists.goanet.org > http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Here Comes THE NEXT BIG THONG - The All- American Kashti !
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Hi Carmo I can't wait to see your picture in your patented thong! Will it be sold under the Kashti brand? And will there be different sizes? Cornel - Original Message - From: "CARMO DCRUZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: Here Comes THE NEXT BIG THONG - The All- American Kashti ! > Hi Rayan, > > I know you are a prominent Indian - American patent attorney in > Cincinnatti, Ohio. > I have redesigned and developed the easy-to--use Kashti. It is pretty > user-friendly, devoid of wearing complications and is not at all difficult > to use. It is also fool proof and devoid of accidental exposure issues. > Preliminary test market research has indicated that it will be THE NEXT > BIG THONG on the beaches of Florida. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] A woman without a culture of her own
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Hi Selma Interesting question re cultural identity that is especially pertinent re life among a greater variety of people than experienced in earlier life. I too have pondered over this question and think there is some truth about how we may instinctively gravitate towards people closest culturally. But this simple statement is shrouded in much complexity as like the many identites we carry, we also carry many cultures in our baggage. As you know, I live in London which is totally home to me. I have grown towards it and it has metaphorically grown towards me by becoming incredible diverse and exciting. Consequently, my cultural identity has been pretty adaptive in a global sense and in my becoming an internationalist in the great metropolis. At other times, depending on the group I may be with, I tend to play out an identity or role appropriate to a given situation. I am not really concerned about belonging to a particular culture as it seems rather irrelevant increasingly. However, I may be carrying an identifiable 'culture' unconsciously and close friends across the 'races' would probably be able to read it better than perhaps I now can. Just some initial thoughts on your question. However, I hope that someone with nothing much or better to do will not scrutinise and criticise every word and sentence above instead of perhaps commenting on the overall point I am making! Regards Cornel PS Perhaps the title you used has an answer for you. You seem to want to be clear about belonging to an identifiable culture. However, this is definitely not true for me. - Original Message - From: "Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:22 AM Subject: [Goanet] A woman without a culture of her own > I once attended a seminar where the audience was asked > this question. If you are in a room full of people who > are you most likely to gravitate towards? The answer > apparently was, the person who is most like you > culturally. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Clarification regarding misinformation
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Gilbert, Please don't feel bad about not being able to provide a reference to substantiate your claim. It is alright. In any case, if you need a list of all research papers published since 1957, dealing with in vivo mouse experiments related to cancer, then please let me know. I will email it to you. Cheers, Santosh --- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It is laughable to claim, that you went "through the >published literature on animal experiments related to >this issue, over the past 50 years." > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Here Comes THE NEXT BIG THONG - The All- American Kashti !
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Hi Rayan, I know you are a prominent Indian - American patent attorney in Cincinnatti, Ohio. I have redesigned and developed the easy-to--use Kashti. It is pretty user-friendly, devoid of wearing complications and is not at all difficult to use. It is also fool proof and devoid of accidental exposure issues. Preliminary test market research has indicated that it will be THE NEXT BIG THONG on the beaches of Florida. At present I am looking for the proper material to make it an even bigger hit ! Complete with Stars and Stripes & Red White and Blue ! We have already got a Provisional Patent for the NEXT BIG THONG - The All American Kashti (Registered TM). Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz Goan, IITian, Indan Harbour Beach, Florida ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
