Re: [Goanet] Plagiarism and Copyright law violation
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor My last post on this thread, stated that it would be the last post on the thread. Yet posts following it have raised some interesting perspectives. And I have a few questions that I would like to be enlightened on. As References and Copyright-Plagiarism are two separate issues, I have the placed these in two separate posts. Please excuse these two new posts. There were three issues which people on purpose or inadvertently confused - Plagiarism, Copyright, and References. I often wonder what drives this? Is it the failure to grasp the major or subtle differences? Is it the effort to put someone down, stand tall on somebody's shoulders, fail to appreciate a dialogue is not to keep harping on the obvious but to tease the nuances, failure to advance the dialogue, or muddy the waters? It was unfortunate that the dialogue was high-jacked, because there was still a lot to learn. My opinion, to which I tried to stick, is when and where authors should use references. This, as they tell their own story or present their perspectives; which at least in the author's mind has not widely known. To highlight the separate issues, I have posted the self-plagiarized thoughts on references in another post. I would like to be educated on issues which some of you know a lot more than me, given your professional training and expertise. To put it in context. Not long ago we acquired a 2 million dollar equipment that produces X-rays to treat cancer. To put together a presentation (slide and print) for the doctors and the patients, I wanted some information on the machine - both text and pictures. Specifically I was interested in the inside (cross-section) of the machine and the images (dose-profile) of the X-ray beam. I e-mailed the company. They suggested I go to their web site, download and use any material including photographs that were available from their web blog. Questions: Would doing so (on their advice) constitute plagiarism and violate copyright laws? Some say that the source of this information should be credited - No problem or problem (see below)? When does this presentation start becoming an advertisement for the company? How does one prevent the scientific presentation being perceived as a sales-pitch for the machine? Do the same issues apply to pharmaceutical companies, that would like physicians to reference THEIR drug? Will the audience / reader perceive the reference in the scientific presentation an endorsement of one medical product / device over another? Is it more likely the company-paid scientist / doctor will repeatedly provide credits? Please recollect the scandal when wall-street brokers were referencing a company's product without disclosing their financial interest. Other related issues, many web sites specifically advertise that their information (including pictures and drawings) are FREE or there is NO copyright on their material. Is this their way of saying this material can be downloaded by the readers and used without permission? Do these raise the same first-four questions as above? Are they doing this under the concept of information-sharing that is described? Are they doing this so that another source is doing their advertising? Or are they doing it as a public-service benefit to advance the knowledge-base? Thanks very much for your information. Kind Regards, GL
[Goanet] Goa Bachhao Aandolen?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Hello, How Goa Bachhao Aandolen and sgoing back from Development plan 2011 can iompact on real state prices & development of GOA in line of other developed states? Though, laws of nature i.e. to live in natural way may prevail over law of society/country spritually and ultimatimetely, still, we prefered to live in society and following laws of the country. To live in natural way, we may have to reverse living in society. In a country with many states, individuality in common laws may be a otherwise thinking. Still some precautions can be kept to save any new land from harming health and our basic right to live but with a consideration of right to justice and equality. Just thoughts. Best
[Goanet] Brainstorming needed
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor What is the way forward in this dire situation? Btw, according to AAI stats there was a dip in foreign tourist arrivals at Dabolim in Dec 2006. Was it due to the Al Qaida scare? It may be easy to derail the foreign tourist boom.
[Goanet] TIC: Plato's Parabolic Perplexity
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Dr. U. G. Barad ushakal at sancharnet.in Life is a parabola in which one sees raise then a Plato followed by stiff downfall. But most of us refuse to agree on this theory despite being proved applicable. This is truer with our politicians and our sporting starts! = Dear Me, This thingie is tougher than I thought. I would willingly agree to this (or any other theory) whether applicable or not, but for my questions. My questions: 1. Who got a raise? 2. What has Plato got to do with this parabola? 3. Who are our sporting starts? Me puzzled! jc TIC - tongue in cheek a la Alfred Chacha
[Goanet] References
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor My last post on this thread, stated that it would be the last post on the thread. Yet posts following it have raised some interesting perspectives. And I have a few questions that I would like to be enlightened on. As References and Copyright-Plagiarism are two separate issues, I have the placed these in two separate posts. Please excuse my two posts. My self-plagiarized thoughts again. A reference does NOT permit one to plagiarize or to violate copyright laws. There is NO CONNECTION between a reference or a web link and the permission to use another person's copyrighted material. The role of the reference is to connect to a support / provide a basis for one's NEW conclusions or CONTROVERSIAL statements. The purpose of writing is to ADVANCE the dialogue / body of knowledge. To do so, one has to not merely repeat, but build on what is widely known out there. IMO the references are to support the advancing body of knowledge and not to support what is widely known. Lay person's (BASIC KNOWLEDGE) publications and web blogs DO NOT / SHOULD NOT HAVE REFERENCES. Because nothing controversial in a scientific / historical etc. perspective should be placed on that forum. To place references in such presentations / publications (with nothing new or controversial) is to elevate the publication to a level that it does not deserve. These are just my views. Kind Regards, GL
Re: [Goanet] Past performances equal History
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor "<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Life is a parabola in which one sees raise then a > Plato followed by stiff > downfall. But most of us refuse to agree on this > theory despite being > proved applicable. This is truer with our > politicians and our sporting > starts! They strongly believe that they don't have > retirement age - they are > ever green heroes. But this is deceptively so! Have > a look at Sachin Tendulkar, our politicians in > Rane, Willy, Sardhin, Luizine, Zatye, etc. All > these so called legendaries of past have started > showing their ages and yet > they want to survive on their past performances. No > sir, you can't do this. > You have to retire and make way for youngsters or > second line to take the > gearshift Or else history will replace all your > achievements with all your recent failures. > Dr. U. G. Barad Most African nations now have laws that allow the President to serve only two terms. You can get rid of the politicians and clean up politics in Goa too if similar laws (for the CM) were in place. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] Plagiarism
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor >> Lastly, and this is my most important point, I contend that plagiarism >> at an academic level has not stunted research and progress. True, but only because it has not been allowed to do so. It is equallly important to maintain these standards of peer review and publication in countries such as India where research is still in its nascent stages. >> Copyright law, on the other hand, is exactly that -- a deterrent to >> progress. The point is that it stunts research and >> progress because it is a deterrent to young companies, without >> financial or legal muscle, to even try. Try what? I think the technology sector which you are focussing on has more start ups than any other sector today. The progress in this sector has also out paced most other sectors. >> Similarly, if TCP/IP, arguably today's networking "wheel", was >> copyrighted you and I may not have been having this discussion via >> this medium. Why wouldn't we be? The computer you use has hundreds of patents on its components. Similarly the software you use is probably protected by copyright(mine is). Yet we are still having this discussion. TCP/IP is a protocol or standard, its very purpose was to get every network to use the same procedure to communicate. It made no sense for the US DoD to patent or copyright it at the time. It would be like trying to increase viewership of a TV programme by making it pay-per-view. One thing is certain, if not for the pioneering work in Stanford and UCL and all the academic research that has followed since, the Internet would be a far cry from what it is today. Sunith -- Sunith D Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Father of Konkani films 'Amchem Noxib', 'Nirmonn' Frank Fernand is no more
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor FATHER OF KONKANI FILMS 'AMCHEM NOXIB', 'NIRMONN' FRANK FERNAND NO MORE By Isidore Dantas isidordantas at yahoo.co.in Frank Fernand, the producer and music director of epoch making Konkani films Amchem Noxib and Nirmonn, breathed his last at the age of 87 in Mumbai on April 1, 2007 and was buried the next day at a quiet funeral at Dadar. He is survived by his wife Maggie, daughters Elfin, Doris, Larissa and son Max. Many Goan musicians have made it big in Hindi films, of whom Frank Fernand is one. Frank Fernandes, popularly known as Frank Fernand, was born on May 3, 1919 and hails from Curchorem, a small and dusty mining town and railway station now in the district of South Goa. He was baptized by the saintly priest Fr. Agnelo de Souza. Fernand received his initial training in music at the hands of the local maestro Diogo Rodrigues, where he could master violin and trumpet. In 1936, Frank migrated to Mumbai to join Don Bosco's for studies. His first assignment in music was to play at Green's Hotel and Taj Mahal Hotel under the leadership of George Theodore, an East Indian, as the community of Christians from the region of Bombay (Mumbai) is known. In 1942, he left Mumbai for Mussorie to play at Savoy Hotel under the Rudy Cotton band. It is here that he got a good opportunity to be a Jazz musician in his band. The same year he had a brief stint in New Delhi. Fernand is indebted to our statesman and India's first Prime Minister the late Jawaharlal Nehru for his Biography and Discovery of India, which completely changed his outlook. He considers Nehru to be the great Son of India and is grateful to him for the orchestration of the National Anthem Jana Gana Mana. A true patriot, Frank commemorated August 15 as the biggest event every year. In 1946, he set for Mumbai to participate in Mickey Correia's band. The year 1948 saw him joining the film industry as a musician to the popular music duo, Shankar-Jaikishan. He proudly recalled his association with the success of R.K.Films' Raj Kapoor's super hit 'Barsat'. He has had the privilege to work under the music directors of repute. These include Kishore Kumar. C.R.Ramchandra, Roshan, and Anil Biswas. His last assignment with Kalyanji-Anandji as his first assistant is fondly remembered by the Hindi Film music community. He has excelled in musical arrangement for these film music directors. In the footsteps of the end of colonial Portuguese rule in Goa, in keeping with the immense love he had for Konkani and with the vast knowledge of film craft in his possession, he launched his first Konkani film 'Amchem Noxib' under the banner of Frank Films (Goa). It starred C. Alvares and Anthony Mendes in the main roles. Apart from being its producer, the film had melodious music composed by him. This film has cast a magic spell on the spectators and its immense popularity has brought him adulation and draws large crowds even today whenever and wherever it is released. Some time back, he expressed his gratitude for the patronage received for this first film, which boosted his enthusiasm. However, he regretted that Portuguese- and English-speaking Goans did not appreciate the film and called it cheap. To counteract this criticism, he produced his second film, 'Nirmonn' based on Lord Tennyson's character Enoch Arden, for which he set music in his own style. This film had a powerful story and bagged the Certificate of Merit for regional films, the first of its kind for Konkani, at the hands of the then Prime Minister, the late Indira Gandhi. This film had memorable performance by C. Alvares, Shalini, Anthony D'Sa and Jacinto Vaz. The lyrics and scenes have been beautifully captured on mementoes of the films. 'Nirmonn' was remade into Hindi and was entitled 'Taqdeer' and was directed by A. Salam with Shalini in the lead role. Besides these two films, Frank has also provide the musical score to the Konkani film 'Mhoji Ghorkarn' directed by A. Salam with Shalini, C.Alvares and Jacinto Vaz in the main leads. With the success of the two Konkani films, Frank ventured to produce a Hindi film in 1965 entitled 'Priya', starring Sanjeev Kumar and Tanuja with music by Kalyanji-Anandji. This film flopped because it was considered an art film by the audience and not a commercial one. Not loosing heart, Frank again attempted to produce another Hindi film 'Ahat' starring Dr. Shriram Lagoo, Jaya Bahaduri, Vinod Mehra. 'Ahat' inspired by the popular English film 'Wait Until Dark' was made under the banner of Vishal Gomantak Films with screenplay by G.D.Madgulkar, Kishore Rege as director and music by himself. The film was over-budgeted and could
[Goanet] Agitations constraint to public-private partnership model: Goa Chief Secretary
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[Goanet] Is over-participation in Democracy proving to be a handicap in Goa ?
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[Goanet] Are you a Gouveia?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Are you a Gouveia? http://albert.gouveia.com/index-0.html -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Konkani Wikipedia (under incubation) needs your help! http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kok -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070402/2db43a96/attachment.htm
Tiatr Review: �40 DIS & 40 RATIi� by William Fernandes
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Fasting And Repentance For Lenten Season Lent is the season of penance, sacrifice and fasting for 40 days and 40 nights. The Lenten season starts form Ash Wednesday and ends on the auspicious day of Easter Sunday- This festival is celebrated in great pomp and festivity all over the world by the Catholics. During Lenten season, devoted Catholics refrain from smoking, drinking, consuming meat products, etc, and instead do penance for their wrong doings and ask for forgiveness from the Almighty. Konkani dramas or Tiatrs were never held during Lenten season in Kuwait, but this year Simon Gonsalves-the talented script writer-director and singer from Panchwadi-Goa had a brilliant idea to entertain the Goans with a message for lent. His drama ÂChallis Dis ani Challis Rati was showcased at the Hawally A/C Auditoruim on 23rd March with a galaxy of stars and tiatrits from Kuwait and Goa. Willy Silveira  the upcoming sensation on Konkani stage along with the veteran Jessie Dias (known as ÂMother of Konkani stage) and popular Comedian Agostinho Temudo, were flown in from Goa for this wonderful themed drama, Simon Gonsalves well known in the Tiatirst circle as an excellent director and talented artiste par excellence for his scenes and sceneries. His Konkani movie ÂChovis Voram was an instant hit, so also his two dramas held in Kuwait. The Lenten family drama was very touching and hard hitting, but tuned the right chords as some elements of the society refusal to accept facts and turn towards salvation and repentance. This type of entertainment is rare specially when it has a message for the masses. The special effects and stage setting was beyond doubt praiseworthy and nothing could falter when Santana Piedade Afonso (SPA) is involved-to put in the words of Simon Gonsalves. Musical score was provided by Shahu Almeida & His Musicians and the event was organized by the United Club of Utorda. Overall Simon Gonsalves along with selected artistes presented the drama in a professional manner. The message of give and take, darkness and light, faith and doubt, action and apathy was indeed well conceive. Appropriate comedy by Philip Pereira, Agostinho, Querobina Carvalho and Salu Faleiro, well meaning and songs on love, faith and sacrifices were rendered by Marcus Vaz, Sanny de Quepem, Jessie Dias, Anthony Carr, Willy Silveira, Ignatius de Xelvon, Laurente Pereira, the enchanting Ronny-Jasmine DÂCunha, among others with Riana Azavedo, Sandra Fernandes, Jessie Dias Simon Gonsalves, Cajetan de Sanvordem, Joseph Rodrigues, Manu DÂSouza, enacting the major roles in the drama to perfection. Janet Franco e Fernandes was the chief guest for the drama. The scenes of Ash Wednesday and the Last Supper were astonishingly well performed and depicted. Above article appeared in THE TIMES, KuwaitÂs Premier Weekly Newspaper, dated March 30  April 05, 2007 TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Aerial route over diggers den?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor TOI April 2. "'Unwiring Pune' plan kickstarts today". Pune will become the first Indian city to have a high-speed wireless internet network i.e. access sans cable (underground or overhead). It will cover 280 sqkm. The technology used will be WIMA and wi-fi. The former is however subject to the announcement of government's spectrum policy and bandwidth allocations. Pune airport altready has a wireless internet network established by one of the two tech-players in this project. If so, then Panjim should be able to consider it too, because its 800 odd hectares is the size of a (largeish?) airport. In September digging for the broad band project is due to start.(Groan!)
[Goanet] Colonialism and bigory?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor I wonder if the writer of this paper is referring to the current situation ie after 1961? BC Frederick Noronha in his paper ' Colonialism and bigotry: Liberation and History.. Combating myths in the struggle for secularism in contemporary Goa' ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk
Re: [Goanet] Church under Archaeological Survey of India dadagiri.
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor UCAN: Archaeology work threatens church monuments, Catholic officials say 3/26/2007 - (UCANews (www.ucanews. com) OLD GOA, India (UCAN) - Church officials in Goa say the federal archaeological department is threatening church monuments in the western Indian state by working haphazardly and secretively. === REPLY TO ABOVE=== CROSS<+>ROADS Inglez sozmota, torui pun Amchi Mai-Bhass "KONKANI" hem boroup korunk vapurchi oxem mhojea monan ailam, kiteak jem kitem ami amche bhaxen uloitao tem amcheach faideachem, oxem tuka disonam? Makai toxench dista kiteak heo sogleo varea-veleo khobro, ubon vochon amchea tintear passun virus kosso ximpdonk vell naka, hea voilea vixai-a vhoir zaiteo khobro vachunk hea disanim meutat, khorem mhutlear heo khobro nhuim, pun amkam goemkar-ank zagrutai, nidechea bhorman bhorlele dole ugdunk kiteak amchea rostear kante assat te amkam toponam zaunk. Don diss adim Bab JoeGoaUK hanem porian heach vixai-a vhoir boroilam, tacheo voileo don volli vachun hanv zagoulom, anik urleleank zagounk fudem sorlam, Bab Joe tuka Dev borem korum, FAD (Federal Archeological Dept.) Delhi than Goem ailea amchea Igorz-antleo bigodleleo murtheo (damaged statues) sarkeo korunk, hanthun gomta Delhi bosleat tankam Goem-cho khub usko assa mhunon, tanchea sangata amchea Goem-chea serkar-akui uskean nidh podonam, pun amche Cristao montri bab kopp marun susth nidleat, tanam aplea dhorma-chem kainch podonk-nam, tankam fokot podlam aplea korma-chem, zori tor tankam irlo usko aslo zalear te kitem tori vinchar kortele asle, zaum eta tankam hachi kainch khobor nam, kiteak te vote vinkto ghevunk gorjevont-ank sodtat. Mhojea ixtta tuka koxem dista? Maka? Maka oxem dista, hie FAD-ache kamdar je Old Goa igorjen kam kortat te zaun assat fator fodpi, anik tankam Delhi serkaran dadleat amcheo itlea vorsamcheo imaji padd ghalunk. Hem soglem zanam zaun passun amcho Goem-cho serkar voghi bosla. Goem-chea serkaran ASI-anchem kam supervise korunk amcho Goem-kar dovrunk zai aslo, pun toxem korunk-nam. Zaum eta amcho Parrekar anik Rano tanchea sangata melon assat, nam tor tie voghi kiteak? Dall miem kuch kala hai. Amche Bab Parrekar anik Rano hankam Vhodlea Goem hevunk koslem tori nibb (excuse) zai aslem, tea passot tanim "Basilica of Bom Jesus" hachea patlean ek Mondir ubem kelam apleo dhormik ghorzo pureo korunk tenvuim kaidea add (illegal), anik kaim vorsam-nim Mumbai tan Shiv Sena-chem loskor Goem etelem Basilica modunk zoxem tanim Babri Masjid modlam. Amcho Goem-cho serkar hache vhoir kiteak action ghenam, anik Panjim Municipal Counsil kitem korta? Concerning illegal Construction, is it Demolish-able according to the housing rule? Teach vangda ASI-hanim "Our Lady of Rosary" Igorjek tenkon 2 maliam-chem building bandunk porvangi dhilea, hie ASI konn? Igorjechea zababdar mhuneareank vinchari-nastanam aponn svotha nirnoi ghevunk, maka dista vho ASI zaun assa RSS hea pongdacho fantto, igroz mathe-chea mhuniari anik karbaream thaim mhoji vinonthi "CHOTUR RAVAT". Hallim amchea Goem kitleoch Igorzo anik lhan lhan Kopelam chorlim, zaum eta ASI hea pongdache mhunis mellon heo choreo kortat, kiteak ASI hankam puri mahiti assa khuim-che igorjen vho kopelan kitem assa poi tem. Pulis khateak mhozo sadho vinchar, "Tumi Igorzo vho Kopel-achea choriam babtim choukoxi kortanam, kednam tori tumi ASI-chea mhunxeank prosnn / vinchar kela, maka dissonam tumi tankam kitench vincharlam mhunon, pun chori zalea tea ganvan konn soro pivon lokot ghara veta taka dhorla anik polis chouker vhoron guneao nastanam taka marla, tossoch ganvan konn narll chorun khata taka dhourun marla, pun aiz passun igorzo anik kopelam chorpi xatti fulloun bounta, tumkam vincharlear tumcho ekuch zabab " AMCHI CHOUKOXI AZUN CHALLU ASSA", Amchea Goem Devlam-nim kiteak choreo zaina? Barik poilear thuim chod bangar, pintol anik duddu (Gold, Copper & Currency) asat. Tor SAKARAM tuka dissonam ASI-ancho hea chori-anim hath assa mhunon" Tumchi choukoxi challu-ch assumm dhi, tanim tujem ghor chori passun. Tor Goemkar-a utt, tum azun niden bormetai, bhair pole surea mathear pavlo, torui tuje dole ugdonam, Dissa uzvadim tujem ghor chorlem pun tukach khobor-nam. Mog anik ekvott assum-dhi achea Goemkar-am sovem. Tumcho khalto, Sanny De Quepem. Kuwait. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Goanet] Frederick's photos/my two cents on the plagiarism debate
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Allwyn writes: > Lastly, and this is my most important point, I contend that plagiarism > at an academic level has not stunted research and progress. It's > perpetrators, not having made any original contribution, have at least > not deterred others from doing so (unless they also try to > illegitimately copyright the work, which then becomes exactly the > problem of copyrighting). Aristo's $0.01: What if plagiarism is not seriously dealt with? Then, academicians will not be motivated to produce original research; ergo, plagiarism DOES stunt research and progress. Allwyn writes: > Copyright law, on the other hand, is exactly that -- a deterrent to > progress. "No, you cannot use my MP3 algorithm in your code base > without first letting me have your firstborn offspring". The point > here is not whether or not they have the right, as per the law, to the > firstborn offspring. The point is that it stunts research and > progress because it is a deterrent to young companies, without > financial or legal muscle, to even try. Aristo's $0.02: Copyright's, patents, IP, and all that jazz bring in the moolah to Companies that invest in R&D, who in fact deserve rewards as incentive for that investment, over a LIMITED period of time; ergo, Copyright law motivates companies to invest in research. Do I smell a marxist here? --- All threads on "Plagiarism", "playgerism", "copyright", "copyleft", "cryptomnesia", "Gilbertomnesia", "Gilbert" are now CLOSED! (Ah, I wish!) Cheers, Aristo. "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." - Jan L. A. van de Snepscheut/Yogi Berra.
