[Goanet] Mother Earth.

2008-08-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
Our resident fashionista, wrote about the 'Mother Earth'

Many, especially Canadians, think they are living in Wunderland. The
truth of the matter is when one is flying; if one arrives during the
monsoon season, India is a sea of green.

Great Britain on the other hand, no matter when you arrive, is a sea
of green. Next time you fly into Pearson, JFK or Dulles, from up above
check it out. No greener place than G.B. or Ireland.

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.


Re: [Goanet] Inflation soars to TWENTY SEVEN year high

2008-08-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Mario Goveia wrote:
>
> Perhaps you missed some of the responses to your
> earlier email on gold hitting $1,650 sometime in the
> future, whereas it is now trading below $800, which 
> is why I cautioned you.? I'm sure those friends of 
> yours will be glad to hear that they deserved their 
> fate by acting on what they thought was a 
> recommendation from an expert.? Unfortunately, they 
> may be unable to truly express themselves on Goanet 
> because Goanet rules will not allow tham to:-))
>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:29:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
I have mentioned several times that you actually take
away from a debate?every time you join one
>
Mario responds:
>
Mervyn,
>
The very fact that you mentioned something several
times virtually guarantees that it must be wrong:-))
>
Exposing distorted information and misrepresentations
is always considered "taking away from a debate" by
those on the wrong side of the exposure:-))  Even your
subject line is WRONG, as can be seen from the
following sources showing the yearly and monthly
history of US inflation rates, going back to 1915.
>
http://www.gocurrency.com/articles/stories-inflation.htm
>
http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Inflation_Rate/HistoricalInflation.aspx?dsInflation_currentPage=1
>
Mervyn wrote:
>
This post of yours is the third one in a row that
makes absolutely no sense. If I did not know you
better, I would think that you were under the
influence when you wrote all three last night. 
>
Mario response:
>
BTW, the facts and my private email inform me that I
make more sense overall and disemminate more correct
and logical information "under the influence" than you
do sober:-))
>
Mervyn wrote:
>
Secondly, if the Goanet administrators allow your
posts to go thru, anyone can post fearlessly?on
Goanet.
>
Mario responds:
>
I see you are now looking for help from the Goanet
administrators.  After letting your posts through are
you expecting them to help you by blocking responses
that take issue with what you have written:-))
>
Mervyn wrote:
>
Third, those who did buy gold at $1,000 are not
complaining.?
>
Mario responds:
>
How would you know?  They must be embarrassed that
they followed what they thought was a recommendation
by you, who keeps telling us that you are an expert
investor.  Shockingly, you are now saying, "but
anyone who makes investment decisions based on emails
on the internet, really deserve what will be coming
their way."  That's pretty callous, even coming from
you:-))
>
Instead, you should be comforting them by telling them
you also bought gold at $1,000 per oz. and you still
believe that gold will go to $1,650 sometime over the
next century:-))
>
Mervyn wrote:
>
I am going to ASSUME you meant an investment of
$1,000.
>
Mario responds:
>
Clearly I made a mistake.  It must be all that liquid
"influence" I was under; plus I was watching the US
Olympic athletes winning all that gold and hoping the
value would not go down even further:-))
>
Fortunately, my mis-statements do not cost anyone any
money, though this discussion may save them money in
the future:-))  
>
Mervyn wrote:
>
George Bush is doing exactly what you describe above.
He has wound up just?like Lenin and is taking his
country along the same path that Lenin did.
>
Mario responds:
>
This is precisely why no Goanet administrator who
knows what is going on in the world would block my
responses to you in the interests of fairness and
accuracy on Goanet.
>
If you understood the US system, which you obviously
do not, you would know that the US is not a
dictatorship run by Bush, and Bush cannot do anything
by himself, without Congressional approval.  This
includes virtually all domestic and foreign policies.
>
Unlike Lenin, who used static analyses by assuming
that everyone else was stupid, George Bush did just
the opposite.  He used dynamic analyses by stronngly
supporting lower tax rates in 2001-2003.  He knew
people would react favorably and the economy would
turn around from the slowdown at the end of the
Clinton term and the subsequent economic shock from
9/11.  The US Congress agreed with him.  This created
a huge increase in tax revenues in the subsequent
years, just as cutting tax rates had done during the
Kennedy and Reagan administrations.
>
Bush's problem was that he was unable to control the
excessive federal spending that Congress was passing,
leading to the deficits and the devaluation of the
currency because of the Federal Reserve's
corresponding monetary actions.
>
However, because of the economic growth, the US
deficit FELL from 3.5% of GDP in 2003 to 1.9% of GDP
in 2006.
>
BTW, did you know that the US Federal Reserve operates
independantly of Congress and the administration?  You
didn't?  I thought so from your comments blaming Bush
for everything.
>
Finally, if you followed current events around the
world you would know by now that the ideas of Marx and
Lenin, whom you love and admire so much, have been
rejected by every major count

[Goanet] WORLD GOA DAY -2008 - GOA

2008-08-21 Thread renebarreto



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World Goa Day
 
The Children celebrated World Goa Day. Rene Barreto continues to champion World 
Goa Day and invited us to join i once again this year. The have been heavy 
rains in Goa over the last month and we were very lucky with no rain on the 
day. The young children were taken on a little outing to the park in the 
morning and then the children were split into three groups, which revolved 
around three different activities. Inside there were drawing World Goa Day 
posters and making friendship bracelets, outside there was 5 a side football / 
dodge ball (depending on how much energy the groups had and finally parachute 
games in the forest. The day saw a beautiful chicken curry lunch and fruit and 
ice cream in the evening. Thank you to all the volunteers and staff for all 
their help and I wish everyone a happy "World Goa Day"...
 
http://www.childrenwalkingtall.com/Pictures9.htm
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[Goanet] Condolences

2008-08-21 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
IFRA - Kuwait on behalf of its managing committee and members 
convey their sincere sympathies to Mr. Raymond D'Sa on the demise
of his beloved wife, Mary.
May the Almighty grant her eternal rest in His Heavenly Abode.
 
We will hold you and your family in our thoughts and prayers.
 
 
In grief,
 
Indian Football Referees Association (IFRA)
Kuwait
 
 





[Goanet] Professor Raheja coming to Goa to "educate" Goans !

2008-08-21 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet -

Will wonders never cease?  Raheja is coming to
town to educate Goans.  The real question is: what
is Raheja still doing in Goa after Digu declared
8 months ago that SEZs were out?

See -


*
http://tinyurl.com/6z9w4h

Daijiworld Media Network - Goa (MR)
By Our Special Correspondent
Panaji, Aug 21: K Raheja corp, India's leading special 
economic zone (SEZ) developer, has decided to initiate 
confidence building measures with the Goan population 
educating them about their non-polluting project beneficial 
to the local population.
Raheja's IT SEZ planned at Verna industrial estate faced 
stern opposition from the locals and state government 
even after it was notified by the union commerce ministry's 
board of approval.
The state government has written to the union commerce 
ministry seeking to denotify Raheja's SEZ along with two others.
"We are here to educate people of Goa regarding our project. 
It is not bad for Goa as it will have BPOs, KPOs, call centres 
and other units which will employ local youths," Shabbir Kanchwala, 
vice president (Project-Coordination), K Raheja Corp, stated.
The anti-SEZ agitators this week had mobbed Raheja's staff 
at the site forcing them labourers to move out from this 
project site where according to the company Rs 192 crore 
have been invested.
The company officials have decided to initiate dialogue with 
the Goan prominent citizens, media, policy makers and even 
the protestors weeding out `misconceptions' about their projects. 
"People are misinformed about our project. We will put 
across to the people how the project will benefit the local 
population," he said.
"The project will be the best in the world and will not burden 
the state infrastructure. WE will have captive power plant 
within the place and also will sewerage treatment plant 
besides rain harvesting," Kanchwala said.
He said the project would stop the braindrain from the 
state especially of the young IT professionals who have to 
migrate to the other states. "We will generate 5,000 jobs 
for the first year and in phases, the employment will increase 
up to 25,000," the vice president said.
The company which plans its SEZs at eleven places including 
Ahmadabad, Navi Mumbai, Hyderbad, Baroda besides others, 
feels that the Goa is an attractive destination for the IT projects.
He said that the Goa project will have companies like Ocwen, 
3G, CFC international setting up their shops here providing 
huge job opportunities to the locals.
K Raheja Corp, which is fighting a case against the Goa 
Industrial development corporation's show cause notice to 
revoke the land allotted to them at the industrial estate, has 
said that the company has invested huge time and money 
in the project.
Kanchwala, when questioned refused to comment on whether 
the company would shift from Goa, if the state government 
provides them the compensation.
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[Goanet] WORLD GO DAY -2008 & 116th Anniversary ...Dar es Salaam -

2008-08-21 Thread renebarreto





WORLD GOA DAY -TANZANIA - DAR ES SALAAM
http://whatsongoanworld.blogspot.com/



 Original Message 

From: Savio Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: r.barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:05:00 AM


World Goa Day & 116th Anniversary ...

Greetings Community,

The St Xavier's Society Management committee presents World Goa Day 
on 23rd August 2008. H E Mr  K.V. Bhagirath,  The Indian High Commissioner , 
will be our guest of honour on that day . There will be a Mass at St Joseph's 
Cathedral at 6.30pm followed by a get together at the DSM Institute with the  
"Fortes Trio " all the way from Goa to entertain you till dawn.


I sincerely request all Goans to turn out in large numbers to celebrate our 
rich 
cultural heritage that keeps us united.  I would like to take this opportunity 
on 
behalf of the Goan community in Tanzania to wish our  fellow Goans all over 
the world the priceless gift of good health on this auspicious day.



Proud to be Goan !!



Chairman

Savio Fernandes 
The St Xavier's Society -
Dar es Salaam - TANZANIA -East Africa 
Memember of the WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS

Lets CELEBRATE : 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_l4T0iulRM

rene barreto - WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS 
TOGETHER - We GOANS have MADE IT HAPPEN.
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[Goanet] BRESTAR - PODD'DEA FATTLEAN: (22) - KONKANI TIATR COMPETITION (KALA AKADEMI-GOA)

2008-08-21 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com










































www.goa-world. com  Quality. Precision. Professional.






Live Konkani Music at
 http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=konkani
 


BRESTAR - PODD'DEA FATTLEAN: (22)KONKANI TIATR COMPETITION (KALA AKADEMI-GOA)
TIATRANCHEO SPORDHO FAIDEACHEO ?
 
- Wilmix Wilson Mazarello 
 
  
Pomchvis-Vorsam voiruch zalim, amchea Goy serkarachi, Kala Akademi, “Konkani 
Tiatr Spordha” ghoddun haddtta.
Onduncheai vorsakui, fuddlea mhoineant, mhunnge, Setembrant 2008, hi “Konkani 
Tiatr Spordha”, zaunchi assa.
He spordhent, fokot serkari “registration” asloleo sounstho, bhag ghetat. 
Serkari “registration” nasloleam sounsthank , he spordhent, bhitor ghenant. 
Tem toxem kiteak, hem Kala Akademi-ch zannam.
 
Fokot serkari “registration” asloleach sounsthank zalear passun, amkam, Goy 
serkarachi, Kala Akademi, itlim vorsam, hi “Konkani Tiatranchi Spordha” ghoddun 
haddtta, hich ek khoxealkaiechi khobor.
 
Tiatrancheo spordho, tiatrache udhorgothik boreo..
Sporedhentlean Tiatrancho dorzo sudhorta .
Spordham-vorvim, noveam boroupeank, digdorspeank, nott /nottink, 
gaupi-kolakarank adi., apli kola, lokam-mukhar haddpak sondh melltta.
Hi ek  bori “baazu”, Kala Akademin ghoddun haddlolea “Konkani Tiatr Spordhechi”.
 
DUSRI BAAZU
Tech porim , hi spordha somptanch , rokddech, amkam “Konkani Tiatr Spordhechi” 
anik ek “baazu” pollounk melltta.
Ti “baazu” mhullear, nikalla-uprant, vortman potrancher, nikallachi ttika 
korun”press-notes”, sompadpeak-chitti ani Kala_Akademi-chea odhikaream-kodde 
zhogddim, legit manddlelim distat.
Henvui, dor-vorsak astach.
 
Zhogddeanchim karannam :- 
a) Homkeach Tiatrak , poilo inam kosso favlo ani kiteak favlo ?
b) Homkeach Tiatrak, “Best Script Award” , kosso favlo ani kiteak?
c) Homkeach Kantoristak, “Best Singer Award”, kosso favlo ani kiteak ? 
Osle , kitlech proxnn  gheun, kestanvam.
 
KHOBRO
Kaim lok sangtat , apunn tea kestanvant poddona , torui ruchin 
“Tiatr-Competition”-ancheo,  khobro kortat. 
Kosleo khobro? 
a) Tiatrist koxech sudhorpache nant.
b) “Kurnattkai” Tiatristancheam rogtant assa.
c) Tiatr Spordhent, inam, hakai dilear fals ani takai dilear fals.
Osleo, anink kitleoch khobro, ak,khea Goy-bhor aikunk mellttat. 
 
SOGLEANK TENCH
Hanvem aikolam, him oslim kestanvam, amcheam Tiatram-Spordhentuch nhum, punn 
heraim spordhani distat.
Alinch, tech Kala Akademin ghoddun haddlele “Bhajan”  spordhecho “nikall” 
gheun, kitlexech  pongodd, Kala Akademi-chea Odheokxak ani Member 
Secretary-k,”gherao” korunk  gel,le mhunn , sogleam vortmaan potrancher khobor, 
ani tancho fottu legit xapun ail,lo.
 
 
KALA AKADEMI CHUKTA
Assum, ami amchich khobor ulounea.
Manun gheunea, amcheam tiatristam-modim thoddi kurnattkai assa.
Punn, hacho , orth osso zaina, ki Kala Akademi korta titleim “sarkem”..
Hacho orth osso zaina, ki Kala Akademi-chea “Judges”-ani  dil,lea “nikall”-ant 
kainch “unnem” nam.
Tiatristanchem sangnnem itlench, ki jeo chuki  Kala Akademi-chean sudhraum 
ieta,  teo tori tenni sudhrauncheo.
Apunnn kortat titleim sarkem, mhunn somzun, ugich ravunk zaina.
 
 
“JUDGES” UPKARONANT
Mhojean , kitlinxinch udharonnam dium eta.
Sod,deak ekuch ‘udharonn” gheunea.
Nikallacher nixedh marunk, Tiatristanchem sodanch ek “complaint” asta.
Ani mhojeim “complaint” tench.
 
Tiatr-Competition-ache “Judges”, fokot  tiatristuch assunk zai. 
Dusre upkaronant.
“English Drama”-cho “Director” zaum,vo Marathi / Konknni Nattkancho Digdorspi,  
konkani tiatr “judge” korunk, te upkaronant.
Thoddeank goddiek distelem, hanv kitem uloita kai mhunn.
Mhunnttelet, “English Drama-cho ani Marathi / Konknni nattkancho ‘dorzo”  
konkani tiatram-un “unch’ assa, mhunnttoch, to zago tankam favta..
 
Torui, hanv mhunnttam, Nam!
Te tiatrank upkaronant.
Kiteak ?
 
KITEAK UPKARONANT
a) “Spordho” ghoddun haddttat, sabar “tiatram-modim”  khuincho boro tiatr to 
vinchun kaddpak 
 Nhuim Tiatrancho dorzo” English/ Marathi/ Konknni nattkank, tenkounk. 
 
b) Konkani Tiatrachem ek “khaxeleponn” assa, jem fokot, tiatrancheam Nirmateank 
/ Digdorspeank / Boroupeank / Tiatrantleam Nott ./ Nottinink somzota.
Tem “khaxeleponn”, kaim tiatranchea, chodda-vorsanchea,  “audience”-ak legit 
somzota.
Mhunnttoch, kaim chodda-vorsanche “Tiatr-Polloinar”, legit , bore “judges”, 
zaum ieta.
Punn, je munis, tiatruch polloina, vo, vorsak “ekuch tiatr” polloita, tankam 
tem koxench somzopachem nam.
 
c) Marathi Nattak  zaum Konknni Nattak, prekxakank (polloinarank) avoddtolem 
zalear, tantunt ek bori “kanni” assunk, samkench gorjechem.
Tech porim, English Drama, “audience”-ak  avoddtolo zalear,  Nott / 
Nottininchem, borem “performance”, samkench gorjechem.
 
TIATRANCHEM VEGLLEPONN / KHAXELEPONN
Punn, Konkani Tiatr-ant toxem nasta. 
Tiatr, khuinchei eke vostucher, chodd attaplolo nasta.
Tiatr ek “mishronn”, sabar vostunchem.(Kanni, “Performance”, “Comedy”, 
Kantaram, ani Songit ).
Soglech “podarth’ gorjeche.
Hakach lagun , ami mhunnttam, ‘Konkani Tiatr”-ank “Judges” fokot tiatrancho 
sombodh aslolech

[Goanet] Fwd: Take a look...

2008-08-21 Thread Hartman de Souza
-- Forwarded message --
From: Hartman de Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:50 AM
Subject: Fwd: [Goanet] Take a look...
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 Mario Goveia, George Pinto, Rajan P. Parrikar, if you honourable gentlemen
are ever in Pune please look me up and I will cook you guys the meal of your
choice. The beer, I assure you guys will not come out of you-know-who's
breweries! Attached duly, the other side of you know who's violations.
Interesting slide show and even signed/endorsed by him...

Here too, following below the text that accompanied the slide show as it was
forwarded to me then:

 *Subject:* the "re-"colonisation of Goa

The "Re-"colonisation of Goa
Rajiv Desai

It's a lazy Sunday afternoon in Ucassaim. We are sitting in the garden with
our friends, Wendell and Jerome. It is surprisingly cool and a gentle breeze
is swaying the coconut palms; another bucolic day in our charming little
village. Wendell is holding forth on the Delhi invasion of Goa. "I welcome
them if they buy old houses and restore them with their money," he says.
"But I draw the line when they make marble and granite palaces in the garish
style of Greater Kailash (a South Delhi suburb known for its kitschy
homes)."
More and more people in this idyllic state are beginning to feel like
Wendell.The nearby village of Assegao, for example, has been virtually
annexed by Delhi's high fliers, who have renovated old homes into luxury
dwellings. At the other end of the spectrum, blocks of Mumbai-style
apartments have sprouted. The "re-"colonisation of Goa is underway. What is
emerging has little to do with the place itself and its unique culture. In
the upper reaches, it is beginning to resemble the Bahamas, while the
apartments and resorts for the middle classes are sleazy Thailand-style
developments.
The "re-"colonisation of Goa is a problem, because it ignores the local
traditions and culture. So the apartment dwellers live their Mumbai lives
and the wealthy in Assegao and Dona Paula import their own little designer
existence. Which is worse? The common indictment is that at both ends of the
socioeconomic spectrum, everyone seems to want to live in Goa. But they want
no contact with the local culture, except as service providers: real estate
agents, drivers, gardeners, electricians, waiters, caretakers.
For settlers at the lower end, Goa is about booze, babes and beaches; at the
higher end, it is about the tacky Kingfisher Villa and being invited to one
of Vijay Mallya's frothy parties. Everyone wants a house in Goa. It's like
owning a BMW or a Maruti: a statement they have arrived. They may own
designer houses or concrete apartments. But they don't seem to have a home.
Whether it's high end villas or cramped apartments, the settlers come and
go, wrapped in their own little cocoons: some with Louis Vuitton luggage;
others with plastic Samsonite bags.
People from all over the country and the world flock to this idyllic place.
While most Goans make them feel welcome; some are beginning to ask
questions. Visitors and settlers alike form their own little ghettos in
which local people are not included. Among the most insular are Europeans,
followed by the Page 3 set.
We had an experience in a kitschy place called Panchavati, owned by a
Belgian woman called Loulou near the beautiful village of Aldona. It is a
resort billed as a 'guest house retreat' that does not welcome any others
than Europeans and rich and famous Indians. Similarly, at a European-owned
shack at Arambhol beach, we waited patiently. No waiter came to take our
order; frustrated and angry, we finally left.
Never mind Belgians, Germans, Russians and Israelis, even Indians from Delhi
and Bombay are setting up enclaves that block out the local culture. They
build real and virtual walls; as such, they go against the grain of the
inclusive local culture of this wonderful haven.
These are the people we didn't see at the Black and Red Dance in Panjim on
the last night of the Carnival. This is a traditional Goan event of
celebration in advance of Lent, the 40-day period of abstinence before
Easter. The bands were superb; the evening was cool. From nine in the
evening to two in the morning, we were suffused with camaraderie. We ate,
drank and danced with abandon…in the streets of Goa's capital city. What
could be more community-minded than a Conga line at the street dance in
Panjim, where strangers, men and women alike, held hands and swayed to the
music? No drunken lewdness, no fights, no sexual harassment; only fun and
dance and occasional shouts of "Viva Goa!"

Rajiv Desai


Okay, back to me again, and my offer of a meal in Pune and why...

The truth of the matter is that the man is a pirate out and out. It is more
than just ironic that his violations are  close to those of  the other
villain in the piece's River Princess. That's not all though: The Majorda
Beach Resort continues to screw the beach to the left facing the sea while
they en

[Goanet] Goa news for August 22, 2008

2008-08-21 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Nitish seeks apology from Goa Minister - Hindu
[23 hours ago]  Patna: Bihar Chief MinisterNitish Kumar
onWednesday denounced the reported anti-Bihari remarks by a Goa
Minister and demanded an unqualified apology from ...
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*** First CDMA Mobile Carrier to Offer Instant Group
Conferencing Solution - MarketWatch
[8 hours ago]  This service is being offered to all customers
in Mumbai, Rest of Maharashtra (ROM) and Goa circle. This
unique, revenue-enhancing voice application is ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/tata-teleservices-maharashtra-limited-launches/story.aspx?guid=%7BCABF45E9-CF17-4241-8DC0-BB2A7E180F0A%7D&dist=hppr&cid=1238804142&ei=a_qtSP2WHIv6lQTw86DLCw&usg=AFQjCNFNY_rpDYGzYQ3h-HNoZJ-SFuTamw

*** Will Goa pull out of film festival? - Herald Publications
[19 hours ago]  PANJIM, AUG 20  Is Goa heading for a clash with
the Directorate of Film Festivals (DFF) over control of the
International Film Festival India (IFFI)? ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8693&cid=10&cid=0&ei=a_qtSP2WHIv6lQTw86DLCw&usg=AFQjCNGdZNomiwBBrWkHbhcgxSd9fmJ3AA

*** Goa\'s \'wounded\' health care system - Times of India
[Aug 19, 2008]  A three-member team of commissioners, appointed
by the high court to visit the Goa Medical College (GMC) and two
district hospitals and report on the state ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goas_wounded_health_care_system/articleshow/3382285.cms&cid=1238421458&ei=a_qtSP2WHIv6lQTw86DLCw&usg=AFQjCNExS8gzVtzJH8h1EQx9a0poq8bi8Q

*** Strike partially hits life in Goa - Hindu
[Aug 20, 2008]  Panaji (PTI): Normal life was partially
disrupted in Goa by the strike called by Left parties and
affiliated trade unions to protest the Centre's economic ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200808201610.htm&cid=0&ei=a_qtSP2WHIv6lQTw86DLCw&usg=AFQjCNEsp-vc4ihrVrNVD5BTkwj9Gvsb6g

*** Goa to introduce regulatory legislation for cable operators
- Televisionpoint.com
[4 hours ago]  Digambar Kamat, chief minister, Goa, has assured
the House that the government would introduce a regulatory
legislation for cable operators in Goa in line ...
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*** Sporting club de Goa pips Dempo by 6-4 via tie breaker -
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*** Goa invokes ESMA against its employees on strike - Hindu
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Essential Services Management Act(ESMA) against the government
employees who have struck work on Wednesday. ...
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[Goanet] People more important than infrastructure --- Narayan Murthy

2008-08-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Samir Kelekar wrote:
>
When Digambar means development, he means
infrastructure. Here, Narayan Murthy says that talent
is anyday more important than infrastructure.
Today, Monseratte talks about building campuses for
education. What is the point of the big buildings if
duds are going to learn in them? obviously, one knows
why ministers want big buildings or real estate
projects.
>
How can we bring the above fact mentioned by Narayan
Murthy --- that talent is anyday more important than
unnecessary infratructure --- to the center of the
debate?
>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:51:20 +0530
From: "Philip Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Murthy is only echoing what IBM's chief said years
ago: Take all IBM infrastructure but leave its people
and IBM will return to its former glory. The Japanese
companies also laid great store by their "valued
members" and worked assiduously to build corporate
core competences for the long term survival and
continuity of their firms. The lesson for Goa is that
it needs both -- thinking and hard working people, on
the one hand, as well as  well thought out, well
operated and well maintained infrastrucure (garbage,
electricity, water supply, sewerage and drainage, air
connectivity, local transport, roads etc etc) for the
long haul, on the other. Both go hand in hand though
on balance people would always have the edge as Murthy
rightly implied.
>
Mario observes:
>
Samir,
>
Without the appropriate buildings and teachers and
modern equipment even the talent may become duds:-)) 
Like a broken clock even politicians like Digambar and
Monserrate can be right sometimes:-))
>
There seems to be a tendency in this thread so far to
confuse well managed private corporations with a
chaotic democratic state like Goa.
>
In my opinion, both talent and infrastructure are
equally essential.  Saying that one is more important
than the other is like saying an automobile engine is
more important than the car it is designed to drive. 
The car is not going anywhere without its engine, and
the engine is going nowhere without the car.
>
Narayan Murthy knows this, even as he espouses his
nuanced platitudes for public consumption.  Even
Narayan Murthy will have to use his existing talent to
improve his corporate infrastructure to attract the
new talent he is looking for.
>
A government, too, should focus on improving the
infrastructure it is responsible for, not just roads
and buildings but things like security and law
enforcement and an independant judiciary, remove
bureaucratic and economic obstacles from the path of
enterprising individuals like oppressive tax rates and
permit and license procedures, and the talent, which
is always looking for attractive alternatives, will
automatically follow.
>
Unfortunately, in Goa, there seems to be lax
enforcement of zoning laws and building codes as a
function of entrenched corruption and voters who
continue to elect lousy politicians.
>
There was a darn good reason for the brain drain.  It
was called Fabian socialism, which drew its
inspiration from Marxism.  Once Manmohan Singh and
other enlightened leaders began to chip away at the
socialist obstacles that were in place, i.e. the
oppressive economic infrastructure, the economy
revived, tax compliance continues to improve, the
brain drain began to slow down and, if the
improvements continue, it MAY eventually reverse
itself. Up to a point.  Because India still has a very
long way to go to catch up after all those wasted 50
years that caused the brain drain.
>
Remember, the Marxists and extreme socialists are
still in the mix in India, and their failed ideas and
siren songs should never again be allowed to create
the economic disincentives that once held India back. 
>
"A socialist is someone who reads Marx. An
anti-socialist is someone who understands Marx." -
adapting and paraphrasing Ronald Reagan.
>




[Goanet] Goans must stand firm against Bihari thugs & their

2008-08-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
I understand that a storm has been kicked up in Bihar
over Ravi Naik's - for once, honest - remarks that
the train from Patna to Goa would bring in riffraff
from Bihar into Goa in numbers that would spell
disaster for the state.
>
I say, Goa would do well to keep the Bihar and
the UP bhaiyya out of Goa.
>
Mario responds:
>
Rajan,
>
Kitem mhontai, re?  You really disappoint me
sometimes.  In between your stellar actions in
exposing the blight that corrupt officials and
contractors are wreaking across Goa, you come up with
comments such as these.  As an MP Bhayya who
understands Bhayyas better than almost anyone else on
Goanet, I can assure you that every UP, Bihari and MP
Bhayya who hears such comments is laughing their heads
off, while packing their potlis and heading off for
all the work they can find in Goa.
>
Hasn't my reminding everyone on Goanet about King
Canute given all the anti-Goan Goans a clue yet?
>
Do you really think that cheering REMARKS about a
train are going to impress any self-respecting Bhayya
or make them quake in their chappals?  Do you think
any Bhayya CARES whether there is a direct train from
Patna to Goa or Allahabad to Goa or Jamshedpur to Goa
or Jabalpur to Goa?  These bug, ...er,...um, 
enterprising people will WALK to Goa if that's what it
takes!!!
>
Sheesh!  No wonder the local Goans cannot compete with
these enterprising Indians who truly believe in free
enterprise and, unlike many Goans, will do anything
they have to to improve the lot of their families.  Of
course, many Goans do the same, even selling their
ancestral properties if they have to before heading
overseas, whereas the Bhayya, knowing his limits,
heads for Goa.
>





Re: [Goanet] Mother Earth - Wendell Rodricks in Goa Today

2008-08-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:47:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
To begin with, just within the last one month, we have
witnessed how good intentions alone cannot "Save Goa".
The break-up of the GBA and the unsavoury dissection
of the Toronto Goan Convention are indications of how
difficult it is to manage democratic endeavour. This
waiting for a Saviour concept, is comforting but
plebeian. In a democracy, one simply has to plough
ahead, show a willingness to embrace change and try
hard to achieve consensus. Democracies are not
everyone's own individual pipe dreams materializing.
They have to produce the greatest good for the
greatest number of people. Like their consort,
capitalism, they may seem heartless, ruthless and even
chaotic at times, but if history is our guide, they
are the most effective form of governance, given the
alternatives. 
>
Mario responds:
>
Well said.  The goal of an enlightened democracy
should be to produce the greatest good for the
greatest number of people.  The key is to have an
informed and enlightened electorate, not an apathetic
one, and politicians and bureaucrats who are basically
honest.
>
As you may have noticed I tried to playfully chide
Wendell because he is essentially a highly successful
capitalist by all accounts, with good intentions. 
However, as a creative person who thinks outside the
box as an individual [:-))] he has a tendency to get
carried away emotionally and therefore falls for
popular Indian platitudes that all that is necessary
is that "we, who truly care for Goa" be UNITED by our
inherently good intentions, form a NEW political
party, hold hands and sing Kum-ba-ya on Anjuna Beach,
and Goa will soon return to its formerly pristine
condition, like Sri Lanka, Switzerland and the
Canadian wilderness:-))
>
Of course the new pristine Goa will have electricity
with underground cables, indoor plumbing and modern
septic systems or sewers, which have paradoxically
made our traditional sorpotel and vindaloo less tasty
by some accounts:-))
>
The central planning by supposedly wise elites caused
Marxism/Leninism to fail because they took away the
collective wisdom of millions of ordinary people
seeking what is best for themselves and their
families, and their natural desire to strive and grow
and be uniquely successful.  Even worse, it required
brutal and dictatorial repression by the government to
force the population to comply with their directives,
because basic human nature yearns to be free.
>
The recent column by Tom Sowell, titled "Amateurs
Outdoing Professionals" explains succinctly how this
works:
>
http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/08/20/amateurs_outdoing_professionals
>
Capitalism essentially helps people to help themselves
and teaches them to be as independant as they can be,
especially from government bureaucrats and
politicians, whose subconscious career advancement
comes, not from solving their problems, but on their
problems getting worse, thereby increasing their
relative importance.
>
Describing capitalism as heartless is like describing
a teacher who demands that her students understand
their subject as heartless, or a parent teaching a
child right from wrong as heartless, as compared with
just pushing the students through or spoiling a child
and making it dependant on the parents or society as
the Marxist/Leninists would prefer.
>
"Democracy is the worst form of government except for
all those others that have been tried." - Winston
Churchill
>
"The scariest words in the English language are, 'I'm
from the government and I'm here to help you.'" -
Ronald Reagan.
>




[Goanet] Goan friends earn A level

2008-08-21 Thread Bernado Colaco
Hi Floriano,

Goa's show case of doom started in 1961 and you very much subscribe to it!

What you have written about the 500 million rich is utopia. Remove your 
blinkers.

BC


This comment has no context  whtsoever with the topic under discussion.
Hope Goan expats are not judged on such quality of intelligence.
If so, then it will be show-case for Goa's past, present and future doom.

floriano




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  2. Wake up police dept from Paul Mascarenhas (Bernice Pereira)
  3. Congratulations for Aitaracheo Katkutleo (Jerry  Fernandes)
  4. Daily Grook #193 (Francis Rodrigues)
  5. Re: Mother Earth - Wendell Rodricks in Goa Today (Santosh Helekar)
  6. GOACAN awareness campaign on Consumer Rights before Ganesh
      Chaturthi festival. (Goa Desc)
  7. Subject: Re:  Subject: Re: Maca Paos - Not Paca Paos
      (Hartman de Souza)
  8. Goans must stand firm against Bihari thugs & their threats
      (Rajan P. Parrikar)
  9. Re: Toronto Convention - lessons to be learnt (Mervyn Lobo)
  10. International Goan Convention - Toronto 2008 (Herman Carneiro)
  11. Maca Paos - Not Paca Paos (Gilbert Lawrence)
  12. Re: Goan friends earn A-levels (goasuraj)
  13. Re: IDENTITY THE PRIORITY (goasuraj)


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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:27:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Goa Sudharop: Teachers training workshop, 9th August
    '08
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20th August 2008

Teachers Training Workshop held at Margao.

Goa Sudharop Community Development Inc. USA in association with Vidya Vikas 
Academy, Margao, organized a day?s teachers training workshop ?Creating a Child 
Friendly Classroom? for South Goa school teachers on 9th August, at Vidya Vikas 
Academy school hall, at Comba, Margao.

Goa Sudharop is a Goan Diaspora volunteer, non-profit NGO working for 
betterment of Goa and Goans. Goa Sudharop is observing 2008 as ?Year of 
Education? in Goa . In line with this theme Goa Sudharop has chosen to 
specially focus on training and empowerment of school teachers. Hence, this 
workshop, which is one of the many such type of educational programmes being 
conducted by Goa Sudharop this year.

The topics at the workshop were: Case discussions; handling behaviour problems 
in school children; classroom management skills ? creating an atmosphere of 
mutual caring and respect; discipline policies for schools, and stress 
management for teachers. Over 60 teachers from different schools in South Goa 
participated in the workshop, and each teacher was presented with a 
participation certificate. The resource persons were Dr. Nandita de Souza and 
Dr. Priti Bakre of Sethu Centre for Child Development & Family Guidance, Panjim.

Mr. Ramah G. Kare, President of Vidya Vikas Academy inaugurated the workshop by 
lighting the traditional lamp. Mrs. Sheela Gaunekar, Chairperson of Vidya Vikas 
Academy was also present. The gathering was welcomed by Mr. Ibonio D?Souza, the 
local representative of Goa Sudharop, and Mrs. Melinda Powell compered the 
function. Mr. Alan Rodrigues, Principal of Vidya Vikas Academy proposed the 
vote of thanks.

Thanks to all the worldwide donors, supporters, and well-wishers of Goa 
Sudharop for making this happen. Also thanks to Vidya Vikas Academy for the 
ongoing partnership.

Goa Sudharop
www.goasudharop.org 


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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:00:30 +0530 (IST)
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Subject: [Goanet] Wake up police dept from Paul Mascarenhas
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Nothing unusual!! What you saw is considered? to be part of Goa's way of life.? 
Nobody's bothered.? Mumbai has recently really tightened its reins specially on 
drinking and driving. Not only the driver, but even the passengers in the car 
can drink and hefty fines are imposed on defaulters.? In Goa accidents abound.? 
Its a paradise for all kinds of masti on the roads.? Wake up Goa Traffic 
Police.?

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[Goanet] Price of battery cells in Goa (was Freedom)

2008-08-21 Thread Samir Kelekar
Gabriel writes

>Don't know about microwaves or TVs, but Duracells in Delhi were 2 * cost of 
>>the same package obtained in Goa, last April. And in Agra? 3 * the cost - 
>>the printed price was craftily cut off or blacked out. 

Dont know about Delhi, but in Bangalore a button cell (It was some foreign 
make) cost Rs. 10/-, while the same one cost Rs. 30/- in Margao. This was
about a year back.

I believe there may be a great profit to be made by just getting stuff from 
Bangalore and Mumbai and selling in Goa. In fact, that is what the migrant 
vendors do.

Even things like garments are brought from Mumbai/Bangalore and sold in Goa. 
There are hardly any malls in Goa. Now, retail giants are coming to 
Goa in a big way. The people who benefit most are those real-estate people who 
have show rooms to rent out. Banks are also coming to Goa in a big way, if they 
haven't already.

Talk about computer equipment. I have hardly seen a retail computer and parts 
showroom in Goa. I am sure there are, but not so obviously known.


regards,
Samir







  


Re: [Goanet] Toronto Convention - lessons to be learnt

2008-08-21 Thread Alfred de Tavares

My dear MervLand...
 
are the CRABS involved innit???
 
Chachaaa...the eternal enquirer...
 
 
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:23:54 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Toronto Convention - lessons 
> to be learnt> > Roland Francis wrote:> > In order to start a post-Convention 
> follow up debate, would the> > Convention organizers please put the 
> discussion and conclusions of the> > Goan culture and identity workshop on 
> this forum as a starting point.> >  >  >  > Roland,> 1) Are you aware that 
> the 2008 Toronto Convention has its own website and webmaster?> 2) Have you 
> checked to find out if the info is there?> 3) I am amazed that after you made 
> no effort to participate at the convention, you are now interested in 
> debating what others debated. I find this absolutely pythonesque. >  > 
> Mervyn3.0> > > 
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[Goanet] BBC E-mail: City break - monsoon trekking in Mumbai

2008-08-21 Thread RUBY GOES
RUBY GOES saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
should see it.

** Message **
FOR THE INFORMATION OF GOANETTERS.
rubygoes

** City break - monsoon trekking in Mumbai **
More and more people in Mumbai are taking to weekend "monsoon treks" in 
the nearby hills, forts and forests, says the BBC's Prachi Pinglay
< http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/south_asia/7567832.stm >


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[Goanet] FW: Condolences

2008-08-21 Thread Francis Furtado



From: Francis Furtado
Sent: 21 August 2008 09:28
To: 'Gasper Almeida'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Condolences

The Management of AVC - Kuwait deeply mourn the sad demise of Mary Josephine 
D'Sa, beloved wife of Mr. Raymond D'Sa. May the Lord Almighty give courage and 
strength to Mr. Raymond and the bereaved family to bear this irreparable loss. 
May her Soul Rest in Peace.


Xavier Furtado
AVC- Kuwait


[Goanet] CONDOLENCES

2008-08-21 Thread CAJETAN DE


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this loss. 
  
May her soul rest in peace. 
  
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Re: [Goanet] world goa-daman day celabrations....20.08.08

2008-08-21 Thread Bertoldo Lopes
Hi every one !


...HERE'S TO THE LAND WE LOVE, AND THE LOVE WE LAND !

On the occasion of the WGDD-2008,which is being celebrated today,I convey my 
greetings and good wishes to all the people of GOA,DAMAN as well not forgetting 
DIU.

May this day of celebrations,bring strength to our commitment by preserving our 
culture
 & history and bringing up our
 childrens in the same customs and attitude.

Regards.

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[Goanet] Goa Church Cautious About Laws To Protect Old Goa

2008-08-21 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com



Goa Church Cautious About Laws To Protect Old Goa 






OLD GOA, India (UCAN) -- Church people in Goa have taken a cautious stand on a 
government proposal to protect Old Goa, the onetime Portuguese colonial base 
and center of Catholic mission in Asia. 




Government officials of this western Indian state discussed a new master plan 
for Old Goa at a July 17 meeting. It reportedly aims to check encroachment in 
the vicinity of Old Goa's church complex. The proposal would ban new 
construction within two kilometers of the complex and restrict construction 
within a wider radius. 

Father Francis Caldeira, who heads the Diocesan Center for Social Communication 
Media, spoke with UCA News on July 25. He said archdiocesan officials had 
discussed the plan with Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao of Goa and Daman, but the 
Church has no comment on the plan "for the moment." 

Even so, Father Caldeira, who represented the Church at the July 17 meeting of 
40 officials from 23 government departments, termed the government effort 
"honest." 

The priest said the Church wants to see how the government draws up the plan, 
which he described as still in the initial stage. The government has promised 
"that all stakeholders will be considered" in drawing up the plan, "so let's 
wait and see," he added. 

The Portuguese heritage of Goa and Daman archdiocese, which covers this tiny 
coastal state, includes several centuries-old church buildings in the Old Goa 
complex, an area with a radius of about 750 meters. 

The Portuguese conquered Goa in 1510 and made Old Goa their colonial capital in 
India. Later, it became the center of Catholic mission. Jesuit Saint Francis 
Xavier was among the missioners who made Goa the base for their work in Asia. 

State tourism director Elvis Gomes, whose agency is overseeing the new plan, 
told UCA News a new master plan for Old Goa is needed urgently. 

Jesuit Father Savio Barreto, rector of the 16th-century Basilica of Bom Jesu 
within the Old Goa complex, said a plan to stop indiscriminate construction 
activity in the vicinity, including mega-projects, "was long overdue". 

The priest said that just 200 meters from the basilica, which houses the bodily 
relic of Saint Francis Xavier, a housing complex is being constructed, 
violating the heritage norms. The authorities now fear the complex will be 
removed from the list of World Heritage sites, he said, adding that this "would 
be a great shame." 

Father Barreto said some "powerful people" have acquired land that once 
belonged to the Jesuits within the complex. "How they came in possession of 
this land is a mystery," said the priest, who charged a Hindu 
minister-turned-land developer is "a prime violator" in the area. 

The priest also noted a shipyard has also been allowed to construct within the 
heritage zone, despite objections he made to various 
authorities.http://www.theindiancatholic.com/report.asp?nid=11024

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Re: [Goanet] International Goan Convention - Toronto 2008

2008-08-21 Thread Carvalho
--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Herman Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
> I had a friend who told me once that Goans as a community
> as a whole never look out for their own.  He then went on to
> give me an example of how Keralites take care of their own. 
> One Keralite working in a company will bring in another
> Keralite and together they’ll bring in more.  They are
> happy to see other Keralites succeed.  That’s such a good
> example of a community being supportive and everyone trying
> to help one another.  
--
Dear Herman,

While I agree with the gist of your message, anyone who has worked in the Gulf 
will assure you that there is none who plays more dirty politics than a 
Keralite. He may not claw members of his own community down, to this end I have 
no opinion, but he will assure that every other Indian, in the company he works 
for, gets an unfair shake. 

That said, I really think this whole "Goan carb xec-xec" story is a figment of 
our imagination. We are no more crab-like than any other community. We are 
human beings given to all the vulnerabilities it entails, including hurt 
sensibilities. To be a community, we have to be blessed with short memories. 
It's time to move on. Put the convention and the past where it belongs. As a 
frame of reference for the next one.

In my many travels, and I've had a few, I have never come across a Goan who 
hasn't invited me over to his home, broken bread with me and befriended me. 
Goans are warm, gracious, have a wonderful joi d'vivre and believe in enjoying 
life to the fullest. I'm proud to be a Goan. I can never be anything other than 
a Goan. Viva re viva, viva re viva (she says after having consumed too many 
Baileys) :-)

selma





Re: [Goanet] Mother Earth - Wendell Rodricks in Goa Today

2008-08-21 Thread Carvalho
--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> I wonder who decides who "truly cares for Goa"
> and who
> does not:-))  Can we have a vote on Goanet on who
> "truly cares for Goa" and who does not?
---
Dear Mario,
There are many articles written these days, that can be classified under one 
banner, "More Pies in the Goan Sky". Are Goans living in the hope that NRIs 
will fund a party which will ride into Goa on a great Apocalyptic Horse, 
charging in, destroying evil, maybe even a few mega-projects, restoring wisdom 
and peace for 1000 years? Well, seeing that the Second Coming of Christ is 
slightly delayed, we better have Plan B, starting with understanding how real 
life works.

To begin with, just within the last one month, we have witnessed how good 
intentions alone cannot "Save Goa". The break-up of the GBA and the unsavoury 
dissection of the Toronto Goan Convention are indications of how difficult it 
is to manage democratic endeavour. This waiting for a Saviour concept, is 
comforting but plebeian . In a democracy, one simply has to plough ahead, show 
a willingness to embrace change and try hard to achieve consensus. Democracies 
are not everyone's own individual pipe dreams materializing. They have to 
produce the greatest good for the greatest number of people. Like their 
consort, capitalism, they may seem heartless, ruthless and even chaotic at 
times, but if history is our guide, they are the most effective form of 
governance, given the alternatives. 

selma



  


[Goanet] CONDOLENCES

2008-08-21 Thread CAJETAN DE




CONDOLENCES 
We deeply mourn the sad demise of  MARY D'SA, beloved wife of Raymond D'Sa 
(President of Goan Overseas Association-Kuwait) expired on 20th August 2008 at 
Kuwait. 
  
We convey our heartfelt sympathies to the bereaved family. 
  
The President, Managing Committee, Members & Players of 
United Friends Club (UFC)
Kuwait
 






[Goanet] Tiatr academy

2008-08-21 Thread Albert Desouza

Albert writes"- Nice to hear that Govt of Goa intends to start Tiatr academy. 
Hope this academy is run by someone very efficient and has knowledge of tiatr . 
People should suggest the names of Wilson Mazerello, Sharon, Tomazin Cardoz, 
Jessie Dias , Jose Salvador from Dalgado academy,.All tiatr lovers should voice 
your suggestions through respective forums .
Albert de Souza 

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2008-08-21 Thread puja bhargava
Greetings!

For a research paper exploring the "Fading Art of Goan Gold and Silver Smithy", 
I'm looking for help/suggestions/contacts for the following:   

• List of museums/ trusts/ individuals/ jewellers who may help gain a 
historical perspective in the goan gold and silver smithy from 16th to early 
20th century.

• Old Jewellery houses/ museums/ individuals who may be able to help  document 
the various jewellery styles & techniques prevalent in the said period through 
examination of the relevant pieces that they possess as well as through their 
collection of old pictures & historical texts. 

The intent is to assemble as much visual material as possible of Goan gold & 
silver craft traditions that are extant in the various museums, Goan churches, 
aristocratic houses and private collections. 

This also includes photographs/illustrations of the related interest: 
fabrication process, fabrication units, trading process etc.

In essence: besides Museums, am trying to trace people who may want to share 
their private collections for the documentation purposes.

• List & contacts of any surviving craftsmen/jewellers engaged in this trade 
will be especially helpful.

Am also trying to get the contacts of Dr. P. P. Shirodkar, former Director, 
Archives and Archaeology, Government of Goa. If anyone can help with that, I'll 
be really grateful.

Look fwd to your replies/inputs

Rgds,

Puja Bhargava
(New Delhi)