[Goanet] Prabakar Sinari's daughter a Portuguese citizen

2008-11-08 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad

This message is in reply to Message: 9, Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008, From: Bernado
Colaco 

Bernado Colaco wrote: Close sources to BC inform me that Sinari once from
the Azad Gomantak Dal a terrorist organization has a daughter who is a
Portuguese citizen; moreover this girl is married to the white race. If this
is all true one wonders if the word hypocrisy has any meaning 

My response: One can not and should not expect children to follow the same
thinking logic of father. In this context I say that you cannot hold Mr.
Prabhakar Sinari responsible. Yes, you would have been right if Mr. Sinari
had done above act. I don't want to contest on other opinions raised by the
writer.  

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad





[Goanet] Surprise expression.

2008-11-08 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad

This message is in reply to Message: 10, Dated: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 From: "J.
Colaco < jc>" 

Jose, on above subject Dr. Samir has already answered you very aptly (Ref.:
Message: 1, Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 From: Samir Kelekar Subject: Hindu or
not?) and yet you had mouthful to say.  
 
Jose, will you re-check your earlier postings to Goanet in the month of
March 2008!  In one of your mail you made a mention that you are Matric Fail
while replying to Dr. Annesimo's message!! Surprised?  

You have even conveniently forgotten what you had written to my query which
was posted to Goanet immediately thereafter under subject title Confusing
yet interesting. Through this message I had posed you a very simple question
as to how can one pass M. D. & LL. B. without clearing Matric (S.S.C.)? 

And your replies to a simple question were equally complex and confusing
depicting confused mindset as is your recent follow-up on the thread or are
you still trying to prove the saying - Mais Papista do que O papa (Meaning
in English, "Holier than thou" attitude) prevails in Goa. 

Jose, it's only because of such attitudes of some Goans during Portuguese
regime, they (Portuguese) had tossed this phrase.  You should understand
that those days are gone and will never be back again in Goa.

Any way for your quick perusal I provide following links.
 
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-March/070948.html

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-March/070953.html


Jose, this makes me conclude that English, at this age, is indeed a
difficult a language as remembering earlier writings/postings to Goanet.
This message to you is from World Englishers. 

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad 






[Goanet] COLVA NITE - A GRAND SUCCESS

2008-11-08 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
COLVA NITE - A GRAND SUCCESS 
 
 
It was an occasion with nostalgia of home town – Colva United Centre (CUC) – 
Kuwait celebrated their annual event – COLVA NITE  2008 – as a part of 
celebration of  COLVA FEAST – With  Feast Mass at Holy Family Cathedral 
followed by annual event – COLVA  NITE – at Fakher-El-Deen Palace Restaurant 
with a record crowd of selected guests to the full capacity of the hall.
  
The function was kicked off by cutting of the Feast Cake by the Committee 
members followed by welcome address by the CUC President Alexander Menino 
Fernandes.
  
Informal selection and crowning of COLVA QUEEN  was the highlight of the 
function which was vied by 16 contestants followed by children games.
  
The following were declared winners of Colva Queen Contest:
 
Marcia D’Souza, was crowned as 1st winner, Delcina Braganza was 1st runner up, 
Maria Ferrao 2nd runner up, best smile award went to Elwira D’Souza and Sheryl 
Jesus walked away with best walk award.
  
Variety of renditions by 'Rosary Ferns Mando Group', Cultural items by 'Viva La 
Goa' and folk dances by 'The Dance Fiesta' have regaled and climaxed the 
festival mood of the guests whose memories will linger for a very very long 
time … until next Colva Nite.
  
A game of Housie and instant hampers have been generously patronized by the 
guests due to the fact that its proceeds are to be donated to Shanti Avedan 
Loutolim, Goa – which is a Cancer Hospice catering to the needs of terminally 
sick cancer patients.
  
The function was ably compered by Merwyn Pereira and Tony Viegas. CUC Assistant 
General Secretary Manuel Rodrigues proposed the vote of thanks.
 
Photos by : Rewon Gomes 
Goa's Pride - http://www.goa-world.com 
http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans

Konkani Amchi Mai Bhas Sogglea Goenkaranchi - hench amchem herans.
For all Goans, our mother-tongue Konkani, is our pride!

http://www.songs-from-goa.at/goa/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5ECJrnqPcI
 





Re: [Goanet] Prabakar Sinari's daughter a Portuguese citizen

2008-11-08 Thread goasuraj

I fully endorse BC on this (though I might not look eye to eye with him on
most other things).
If what BC has reported is true, which I will find out soon,  I shall  speak
to Sinari again like I have spoken to him before. I have a special neck to
deal with fake freedom fighters and it is not to say that they do not like 
my tongue. Flavian Dias has tasted it before during his sucking up

to the BJP and the VCD on freedom struggle.

floriano
goasuraj

- Original Message - 
From: "Bernado Colaco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:37 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Prabakar Sinari's daughter a Portuguese citizen




Close sources to BC inform me that Sinari once from the Azad Gomantak Dal a
terrorist organization has a daughter who is a Portuguese citizen, moreover
this girl is married to the white race. If this is all true one wonders if
the word hypocrisy has any meaning.

The latest ranting by these fake freedom fighters is their last gasp since
they are in the last journey of their lives and having done anything for Goa
for the past 46 years. Since 61 Goa is in an abyss of crime and corruption.
The democracy installed in Goa is hijacked by those in power to rape and
maim freely. Fundacao Oriente is in Goa after the infamous contract between
Portugal and Bharat in 1976. In this contract Goa was sold to the bharatis.
Today we see the results.

BC








Re: [Goanet] The opposition from the Freedom Fighters

2008-11-08 Thread goasuraj
And what do the freedom fighters got to show us Goans rather than collecting 
their pension cheques , asking for govt jobs for their next of kins, and 
blackening of Portuguese road name plaques? and showing-off their huge 
ignorance about the modern world  with their canned brains with the hate for 
the Portuguese, where Portuguese themselves were the victims?


These ilk of Goa's  spurious  freedom fighters should be banished from the 
Goan soil once and for all. We shall do it if given half a chance (goasuraj)

One of them is Naguesh Karmali.
I have personally openly challenged his holding the directorship of TB Cunha 
Institution in Panjim (where he was present) and have suggested that he be 
thrown out since he was a blot on TB Cunha's face because he was the 
mastermind of the Fontainhas mess-up. He had no guts to respond to my 
charges. And this darpook has fought for GOA??? when he could not defend 
himself in his own house?


I understand Sam talking in favour of FFs because he is the son of the FF. 
But Goa needs to cull real FFs from the fake ones ( like Karmali) and denude 
them of all the past privileges given at the cost of us, the tax payers.


GOA will have and will maintain good relations with Portugal whether  these 
blind, closed, senile so called Goa's Freedom fighters like it or not. The 
onus is on the real FFs (if they exist) to salvage their honour by 
de-associating themselves from these loud mouth pariahs.


Note: Maria Aurora Couto was present at the TB Cunha Hall when I tore 
Karmali to pieces publicly. Her article appears on this week's 'NT Panorama 
captioned "GOA & PORTUGAL -- Looking Ahead ". Goans must read this to know 
and recognize the closed mindset of the pariah FFs who make placard noises 
to authenticate their pensions.


And when Sam asks: "Does Portugal count in today's world first of all ?"  my 
qualified response is 'Yes' very much and any time,  face to face with 
today's India whose leadership has no backbone to stop innocent people 
getting killed, injured, maimed, burnt alive and their houses destroyed by 
the BJP-Shiv Sena sheltered thugs running amok. Look at what  Khuswant Singh 
has to say about these leaders in his piece on the NT Panorama (today's) 
captioned 'Goonda Raj'


For Sam's information His and My India is today a mess called SHAME, reduced 
to this status by pea-brained peacocks strutting  in high positions with 
their back-sides open to show no substance :-)) This includes Manmohan Singh 
and Sonia Aunty.


floriano
goasuraj
9890470896


- Original Message - 
From: "Samir Kelekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 10:57 PM
Subject: [Goanet] The opposition from the Freedom Fighters


Portuguese slave oops citizen Paulo Colaco Dias writes some good things 
about democracy, but

then he calls freedom fighters who opposed this so called "celebration"
fake.

Would anyone in their sane minds celebrate their mother's rape ?

That is what happened to us 450 years back, but perverse mentalities have
sprung up celebrating such rape nowadays.

Naguesh Karmali gave most of his young life for Goa's freedom. Digambar
Kamat and his corrupt cronies are now reaping the fruit.

And activitist are hiding away when elections come near.

And the Jose Colacos are dancing their kathakalis sucking up to Portugal.

Does Portugal count in today's world first of all ?

I mean other than wine and football what do they have to show

regards,
Samir




Re: [Goanet] The opposition from the Freedom Fighters

2008-11-08 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
--- On Sun, 9/11/08, Samir Kelekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Samir Kelekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Would anyone in their sane minds celebrate their
> mother's rape ?

Was your mother raped?

> 
> That is what happened to us 450 years back, 

Ah! your mother is 450 years old... But then, as history says, the Portuguese 
were invited by Timoja to get rid of the Muslims - so your mother was a Muslim 
...

> 
> Naguesh Karmali gave most of his young life for Goa's
> freedom. 

Did he gain freedom for Goa? Oh really? Perhaps the Indian armed forces were 
called in by Karmali; or perhaps you call military occupation of Goa's port and 
airport, freedom.

> Does Portugal count in today's world first of all ?

Ah! what is World First of All? Population count? Population density? A 
majority that lives under the poverty line?

> 
> I mean other than wine and football what do they have to
> show

Plenty, my friend, plenty. All you have to do is look around you.



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[Goanet] Goa's Freedom Fighters

2008-11-08 Thread Arwin Mesquita
This is with reference to the recent report in the Media that the Freedom
Fighters are opposing an upcoming Portugeese Cultural Event

With all due respect to all freedom fighters, I would really request to
know, what really happened in 1961? With key strong factors on our side (A)
The United Nations behind Goa, stating self-determination (B) Goans being
aware of constitutional provisions to states like Kashmir etc. I really
can't digest the fact that, Goans so easily agreed to accession, without any
safeguards to preserve our unique identity. *What freedom does it look like
today; Is it Liberation of Goa from the Portugeese or from the Goans? *

Surely the Freedom Fighters must have fought for Genuine Goan interests.The
Freedom Fighters can oppose the cultural event if they wish; but I think
there are bigger issues for Goa & Its Identity that they should spend their
time on; and make  a difference.

Arwin

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[Goanet] Semana da Cultura Portuguesa

2008-11-08 Thread Communicare Trust

Dear friends,



I'm sending the program of "Semana da Cultura Portuguesa", a initiative of 
the Portuguese consulate and that is supported, among others, by Communicare 
Cultural Center.




12th and 13th November, from 3pm to 5pm, Communicare is organizing a 
Portuguese Scrabble Competition in it's premises, at Mala.




If you are interested please contact me. Mob: 98 22 58 60 58.



I would also like to inform you that Instituto Camões has inaugurated a 
exhibition named:  "As viagens Portuguesas e o Encontro das Civilizações". 
This exhibition can be seen till the end of the month in IC premises, Agva 
House, 9/32 Dr.Dada Vaidya Road, Panjim




From 10th to 15th November 08, at the Auditorium of Smt. Parvatibai Chowgule 
College in Margão, there will be screening of feature-films and 
documentaries of Portuguese directors, featuring some of the most recent 
cinematographic productions produced in Portugal, depicting aspects of the 
recent past and contemporary Portuguese society.


From football, music, of the 60's to the present, this kaleidoscope is an 
homage to the personalities of Portuguese Culture, be they nationals or 
foreigners, who live and share the same dreams and anxieties.




This initiative is also of Instituto Camões.



Enjoy these moments.



Kind  Regards,



Nalini Elvino de Sousa

Communicare Cultural Center, 1st Floor, Vaastu Heritage

Mala - 403001



[Goanet] Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Eka Farak Don Suknnim Marop

2008-11-08 Thread lino dourado
    Eka Farak Don Suknnim Marop
 
Tisrea vorgan Konknni xikpi videarteank (students) ek nibon’d (essay) borovpak 
klas tticherin sanglem. Nibon’dacho vixei ‘Amchea ghorantli kamvali’. Kitem ani 
koxem borovchem hem thoddem bhov tticherin vidhearteank somzovnni diun nibon’d 
borovpak toyar kelim.
 
Kadenachea follir nibon’d borovpak dor ek videarteamni soroll chalu kelem. Punn 
eklench cheddum videarti mat ‘strike’-ar ghel’lea porim kainch boroinastana 
niraxi zaun ogench boslelem. Tache chintnamni taka khoim tori xennoilolem. Klas 
tticher tachexim geli ani nibon’d nam borovpachem karann vicharlem.
 
“Ghelea sumanan mhoje mummy-n, amchea ghorant kam’ kortole kamvalik (housemaid) 
dhanvdaili.” Roddkulo avaz kaddun poran sanglem. 
 
“Punn kaim nezo. Tumchea ghorant kamvali asli nhoi? Tichea vixim tuka kitlo lab 
vo faido mell’la ani tumchea ghorchea kaman koslo adar zala tem boroi. Ani 
visronaka borounk. Tuje mummy-n, tika ghorantli bhair ghalchem karann.”
 
Mhoje mummy-n mhaka sanglem. Mhojem thaim khellunk thoddea disamni Dev mhaka ek 
sundor bhav ditolo. (Poran, nibon’d borovpachem suru kelem) Ani mhaka mosti 
korina zaunk xiddkailem. Hanv ghorant eklench, mhonntoch; mhoji mostiponnam 
chodd zatat mhunn mhoji mummy sodanch mhoje daddy-k tokrar kortali. Punn mhozo 
daddy mhoji chodd apurbay kori. Mummy mhunn mhaka mog diunk unnem nasli. Punn 
disan dis tichem pot motem zait vetalem ani mhozo bhav tika tras dita mhunn 
bogor-bogor dotoragher vetali. Ghorant ek kamvali haddchi oso agro tinnem 
daddy-k thaim kelolo.
 
Ani ek dis daddy sangata konn ek ostori amgher aili. Pollounk thoddi bhov 
sundor diso. Ani mhoje mummy thaim kaim vell uloilolea uprant ti amgher ravteli 
ani mhozo poramus korteli mhunn mhaka daddy-n kollit kelem. Tichem nanv Amrita. 
Hanv tika mottvea nanvan Rita mhonntalim ani amchea ghorant sogott tech nanvan 
taka voddkupak laglim. Tem mhoji khup apurbay kori. Mhoje obheas bha ghetalem. 
Ghorant safai samballtalem ani kuznant nove prat xiztale  te ami, ani odkik 
korun daddy ruchin khatalo. Ritan, sogleancho mog jikhlolo. Xezarim-soirim taka 
borim kortalim. Mhojea mosteponnachea tras, atam mummy-k unnem zalele. Mhoje 
thaim khellunk Rita aplo vell ditalem. 
 
Eke sanjechea vellar mhoji mummy okosmat bori nam zali ani daddy tika ghevn 
hospitalant ghelo. Hospitalant mhoji mummy char dis urteli mhunn daddy-n mhaka 
sanglem. Mummy-cho husko mhaka zalo. Poilech pavtti hanv mummy vinem zalim. 
Hanv roddunk laglim. Daddy, aplea utten ghevn mhaka somzaitalo. Tannem Rita-k 
ulo marlo. Tannem mhaka ubarlem ani mhojea rumant vorun mhaka ek kolea-mamachi 
kanni sangun mhojem dukhi mon hanstem kelem. Tea ratrik daddy ani Rita modim 
khub kallacheo eka-mekak borinch ollkotolea porim hans-hansun ghozaleo 
chol’leo. Ani nidhonk veche vellar daddy-n Ritak mhonnlem “Khup dis zale jevonn 
sarkem zalem nam.” ani Ritan zap dili. “Bhie naka. Gostan khavunk thodde vell 
rav”
 
Tea ratik ekdom boreo kannio sangun mhaka aplea kakeant ghott ghevn Rita 
mhojexim nidhlelem. Kitlea vellar ti mhaka khobor nam, punn bhailean mazrancho 
boball zaunk laglo ani tanche karandayen mhaka zag zali. Rita bed-ir naslem. 
Goddie toiletint mutunk ghelam asot mhunn hanvem taka ulo marlo. Mhojea avazan 
daddy-chea rumant kitem tori sokla poddun funttlelea bhaxen avaz zalo. Hanvem 
bhieun mhojea rumantli light pettoili ani hanv salant ailim zalear Rita mhoje 
mummy-chem pangruchem chaddor aplea angar ghevn aslem. Hospitalant thavn mummy 
yetoch te ratrichi ghozal havem mummy-k sangli. Daddy thaim kitem tori mummy-n 
motean vichar kelo ani bond  rumantli bhair yevnche yevn Ritachea kansular 
tin-char vazoilim ani tech ghoddiek taka ghorantlem bhair dhanvdailem. Mhoje 
mummy thaim kazar zaunchea adim Rita ani daddy-che modim koslem tori natem 
aslem mhunn mhoji mummy foanvelean mhoje mauxe thaim uloitanam hanvem 
aikolelem. Ani oxe toren hanv porot eksurem
 zalem.
 
Mon diun nibon’d vachlea uprant, klas tticherin ek lamb suskar soddlo ani 
thoddo vell niallea uprant apli personal diary ugti korun mobile fonache ankdde 
damble
 
“Hello Romeo. Ollkota mhaka? Hanv Juliet. Tuji adli ixttin. Nam, nam, nam!!! 
Modench uloinaka. Mhojem sopum di. Kolejiche nimnne vorsantle panvdde choddtana 
chukun tujea sobit rupachea humbrear bosil’lem hanv………..nam, nam, nam!!! Adli 
yad korinam. Punn ekuch vicharchem asa. Tuka housemaid-ichi goroz aslear, mhaka 
kollit korchem…….Hello…!!!
 
Lino B. Dourado
 

 
 
 
 
 
 





[Goanet] Non Goa_Japanese Monkey waiters

2008-11-08 Thread Venantius Pinto
Japanese Monkey waiters.
Imagine what is possible in Goa. I sometime prefer to point to such things
rather than say things the people may feel I pulling out of some place where
the sun dont shine.
http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/10/japanese-monkey.html

venantius


[Goanet] Karnataka govt curbing Church

2008-11-08 Thread marshallmendonza
Aiz maka, falea tuka. Remember it is happening in Karnataka today, tomorrow it 
can happen in Goa. Goans need to be alert and speak out.
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1204764

Regards,

Marshall


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[Goanet] God and you

2008-11-08 Thread Albert Desouza

Albert writes:- When God created the world there was a bond of love between 
humanity and God. He created the world to make man a happy living being. He 
loved man but man got confused with the environment due to the sin of Adam that 
he strayed away from God. God condemed the sin of man but not man. He brought 
the people out from bondage and was with them in the wilderness. Finally He 
sent His only son Jesus so that Man could receive him gladly and absorb the 
word of God from him. But he was crucified on the cross and rose again from the 
dead. He forgave all those who had killed him. Today most of us are in the 
confused world. Those who are supposed to lead us are blind. They themselves do 
not know Jesus. The pride in them is so great that they do not want to accept 
that they are not the right prophets of God. Is man happy today ? If man cannot 
be happy in this world I doubt he will know what happiness is when he dies and 
enters a new life. Today everyone has become greedy. Everyone has become 
selfish and the two lovely commandments of God shortened by Jesus are so 
difficult to be followed. People run round the globe in search of happiness. 
They go to this god and that god because they are not sure about the way to 
Heaven. Inspite of the assurances given by Jesus when he said "I am the 
resurection and the life who ever come to me will be saved. I am the truth and 
the life " we still want to remain in a dark tunnel of life. It is high 
time that man needs a change of life. It is time he understands who Jesus is 
and it is time he takes the bible and reads for directions. Life would have 
been a moment of happiness if only we had to follow the two simple rules. Love 
God above all things and love your neighbour as Jesus has loved us. Our prayers 
are mere recitations of hundreds of Our Father, and thousand hail Marys will 
not bind us with the Lord and also not bind us to the people whom He has 
created. God has not created any mediator between Him and You except Jesus. 
Amen 
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[Goanet] Kenyan saying comes true

2008-11-08 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Folks,
For the non-East Africans here, there are two major tribes in Kenya. The 
Kikuyu's, who have dominated politics and business, 
and the Luo's who have been kept out of political and economic power. Someone 
pointed out to me this week that a pessimistic 
Kenyan saying actually came true this week.


The saying?


"It would be much easier for  Luo to become President of the United States than 
for a Luo to become President of Kenya."

Needles to say, Obama's father was a Luo.

Mervyn3.0


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[Goanet] Sonia Sirsat and Tuna Goesa regale audience in Macau

2008-11-08 Thread Bernado Colaco


Thanks Joe for the YT video. Today Sonia is singing at the Se Cathedral, 
Macau to celebrate the canonization of St. Alphonsa. 

FF's get out of Goa. Leave Goa in Peace. I hope Goans around the world will act 
to these postings and get rid of these fake freedom fighters.

BC


  


[Goanet] Hindutva terrorism

2008-11-08 Thread marshallmendonza
In an earlier posting when I had posted George Menezes' article ' An Open 
Letter to L K Advani' with the preface that it was a typical christian reaction 
to violence, Santosh querried 'How are typical Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, 
Jain, Parsi or other non-Christian responses different from this?'
To which I replied that the hindutva response would be more violence. Here is a 
sample below.

Quote:'"I don’t believe in the philosophy of turning the other cheek if someone 
slaps you. We must strike back...why can’t we have a blast for a blast?" 
Unquote

Read on for complete article.

http://communalism.blogspot.com/

Regards,

Marshall


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[Goanet] Prabakar Sinari's daughter a Portuguese citizen

2008-11-08 Thread Bernado Colaco


Close sources to BC inform me that Sinari once from the Azad Gomantak Dal a 
terrorist organization has a daughter who is a Portuguese citizen, moreover 
this girl is married to the white race. If this is all true one wonders if the 
word hypocrisy has any meaning. 

The latest ranting by these fake freedom fighters is their last gasp since they 
are in the last journey of their lives and having done anything for Goa for the 
past 46 years. Since 61 Goa is in an abyss of crime and corruption. The 
democracy installed in Goa is hijacked by those in power to rape and maim 
freely. Fundacao Oriente is in Goa after the infamous contract between Portugal 
and Bharat in 1976. In this contract Goa was sold to the bharatis. Today we see 
the results.

BC





[Goanet] The opposition from the Freedom Fighters

2008-11-08 Thread Samir Kelekar
Portuguese slave oops citizen Paulo Colaco Dias writes some good things about 
democracy, but
then he calls freedom fighters who opposed this so called "celebration"
fake.

Would anyone in their sane minds celebrate their mother's rape ?

That is what happened to us 450 years back, but perverse mentalities have
sprung up celebrating such rape nowadays.

Naguesh Karmali gave most of his young life for Goa's freedom. Digambar
Kamat and his corrupt cronies are now reaping the fruit.

And activitist are hiding away when elections come near. 

And the Jose Colacos are dancing their kathakalis sucking up to Portugal.

Does Portugal count in today's world first of all ?

I mean other than wine and football what do they have to show

regards,
Samir




  


Re: [Goanet] It's the economy, stupid !!!

2008-11-08 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 21:23:36 -0800 (PST)
From: marlon menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
The state of the union:
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNmcf4Y3lGM&;
>
Mario asks:
>
Is this the same intrepid hit and run bomb thrower whom Santosh said was the 
head of the Goanet verbal-terrorist contingent allied against conservatives 
along with the following motley crew, most of whom are real terrorists?
>
Islamic terrorists, Ahmadinejad and Obama in collaboration with Hugo Chavez, 
Castro brothers, Chicago thugs, Palestinians, the Clintons, Levinsky, 
Farrakhan, Ayres, Wright, Rezko, and their many childhood Muslim and communist 
friends. 
>
Seems like he has been reduced to denying he is a liberal Democrat and has 
joined his Cockney "brother-in-arms" in cutting and pasting the work of others 
from YouTube, innit?:-))
>





[Goanet] Goa news for November 9, 2008

2008-11-08 Thread Goanet News Service
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*** I-League Preview: Dempo SC  Sporting Clube De Goa -
Goal.com
[Nov 7, 2008]  League leaders Sporting Clube De Goa takeon
fellow Goan side and defending champions Dempo SC in a seventh
round I-League clash at the Pandit Jawaharlal ...
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*** Sesa Goa to invest INR 4 billion for - SteelGuru
[19 hours ago]  Reuters reported that Sesa Goa plans to invest
about INR 4 billion in the next 2 years to develop mines and
infrastructure. Mr PK Mukherjee MD of Sesa Goa ...
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*** Goa realty deals ring alarm - Times of India
[Nov 6, 2008]  The Centres advisory was necessitated following
the Enforcement Directorate investigation in a number of cases
in Goa where foreign nationals from many ...
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*** Cautious tourists continue to flock to Goa - NDTV.com
[Nov 7, 2008]  PTI The adverse publicity earned by Goa after
the German minor rape case controversy has not damped the
enthusiasm of tourists flocking to this coastal ...
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*** Real scandal: Dead men buying property in Goa - Economic
Times
[Nov 7, 2008]  PANAJI: In Goa, forming name-sake companies
which allows 100% FDI has been a major route for investing in
properties. This easy route, adopted often in ...
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*** Goa gets its 1st woman lifeguard in lass from UK - Times of
India
[23 hours ago]  PANAJI: Goa is all set to get its own CJ Parker
or Stephanie Holden. This season, sauntering on the beaches,
peering through binoculars and, if needed, ...
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*** Shoot Goa temple desecrators: Congress - Thaindian.com
[14 hours ago]  Panaji, Nov 8 (IANS) The Goa Pradesh Congress
Committee (GPCC) has advocated shoot-at-sight orders in order to
curb the rising incidents of desecration of ...
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*** Magic, disco on wheels to Goa - The Statesman
[Nov 7, 2008]  7: Discotheques and magicians are just some of
the plans private travel agency Inova has for a luxury train
trip from Kolkata to Goa next year. ...
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*** Rebel BJP leader files papers in Goa - Sify
[14 hours ago]  Panaji: Former state Bharatiya Janata Party
(BJP) president Suresh Amonkar has filed his nomination for
North Goa's Pale assembly by-election as an ...
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*** Slice of Eden; Arambol, in North Goa - Economic Times
[2 hours ago]  Arambol (a corruption of Harmal), in north Goa,
is perfect for a relaxing holiday, especially if you are a
budget traveler, one of the reasons why my two ...
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[Goanet] THE POST MORTEM IS ON.

2008-11-08 Thread Ruby Goes

Hi Goanetters.

NICE OP-ED FROM COLBERT.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/07/AR2008110702
806.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

HARD WORK PAYS OFF, DESPITE FOX ET ALIA.


Merci beaucoup.
rubygoes



Re: [Goanet] Sesa Holders, Beware !

2008-11-08 Thread Jim Fernandes
Eric is absolutely right. Stay away from commodities / metals.

Now that Senhor Bush is all but gone and the Oil Mafia and the hedge funds have 
nobody to back them anymore, I expect oil to sell for about $35 a barrel in 
less than a year.

Jim F
New York.

-- Original message --
From: eric pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
The downturn is now a near downfall, with Mittal claiming new orders do not 
exist,  General Motors asking for a 'government is a solution' handout of 10 
billion,  Ford announcing a total burn of 7 billion, and better retail chains 
disclosing a 20 % plus drop in sales figures. One cannot expect a govt. 
solution 
for  Tata Steel and Sesa holders, we had been bankrupt socialists for much too 
> long.
  Carter had capped oil imports at 7 million barrels a day, which meant four 
cylinder cars; with a GM V-P, Rove, in the White House, horse power was a 
...
...


[Goanet] Goan mutations-3: HERALD(Goa), Nov 9, 2008

2008-11-08 Thread Valmiki Faleiro



GOAN MUTATIONS-3
By Valmiki Faleiro

Goan mutations are one classic example. Of the result of laws mule-headedly aped
from Maharashtra in the early post-Liberation years. And implemented half-baked 
or
selectively. Like the Land to the Tiller Act, where ‘big bhatkars’ like the 
Ranes of
Sattari quietly dispossessed their tillers even as the law was being enforced 
by one
of their own: Pratapsing Rane, then a MGP Revenue Minister.

Maharashtra’s land laws were meant for Maharashtra. Goa’s land-holding patterns
differed from those in most of India. Worse, even as such laws were 
fundamentally
amended in Maharashtra, little changed from the archaic in Goa.

Nothing prevented the Congress (1980-2000) and BJP-led (2000-04) governments
from amending flawed statutes, to make them better suited to local conditions. 
But,
given their extra-curricular distractions, it’d be grossly unfair of Goans to 
expect their
governments to govern in the realm of the curricular.

In the rest of India, lands belonged to the State. Lands turned private when, 
under
laws like the Land Revenue Code (LRC), patches were granted to private parties 
for
revenue.

In Goa, lands were held collectively in the name of the ‘Gram Purush’ (village 
deity.)
Private – but not individual – ownership. This was central to the ‘ganvkari’
(‘comunidade’ in the Portuguese era), a ‘Village Republic’ system that existed 
much
before the Indo-Aryans of North India conquered and adopted them as their own.

The ‘ganvkari’ system was refined by latter day Sumerians (temple priests), who
landed in sailboats – of all places, at Varca in Salcete! Conventions of 
‘ganvkaris,’
codified by the Portuguese, allowed leases (‘aforamentos’) which, on lump sum
payment of 20 years’ lease fees, turned community lands freehold. Goan land
holding thus took a unique form. Yet, unsuited laws from elsewhere – mainly from
Maharashtra – were imported into Goa. Like the LRC, which regulates matters of
survey, partitions and mutations.

Elsewhere, the LRC applies only to State-granted lands. In Goa, it has been 
enforced
for all lands: temple, church, community, and private. The mess of Goan 
mutations
stems from this ill-fitting LRC. Even as its provisions are followed more in 
breach, the
‘aam aadmi’ in India’s “No.1 State” is subjected to harassment and extortion.

Let’s look a bit more at how this happens. We were on service of mutation 
notices.
One way to defraud a Goan Catholic landowner – absentee or resident – for
example, is to serve a mutation notice via a Marathi daily that Catholics 
generally are
unable to read.

Fraudsters on the prowl devised other methods.

Befriend the beat postman. If he agrees to the bribe, he will return a notice 
to the
landowner back to the Mamlatdar with the remark, “Refused” or “Intimated” – 
which,
in law, is good service. Oblivious, the legitimate owner is ‘dispossessed’ of 
his land in
official revenue records.

Earlier, village Talathis carried out mutations under supervision of the Circle
Inspector and Mamlatdar. Malpractices and corruption were galore. Let me cite a
quaint case.

There was this Talathi in Curtorim constituency when Francisco Sardinha was its
longtime MLA. Without any legal basis, the Talathi posted a mutation, 
‘dispossessing’
the rightful holder, a woman. The woman learnt about this in good time. 
Accosting
the Talathi and Mamlatdar didn’t work. She met Minister Sardinha. He summoned 
the
Talathi and, verifying the fraud, told him to rectify the record or face 
dismissal from
service. The Talathi returned to his office and, same day, without any document 
or
ado, promptly reversed the mutation!

Here is a case related by another Curtorim friend – at the other end of the 
spectrum.
Despite a Court decree in ‘Inventario’ proceedings, the mutation of a property 
allotted
to him wasn’t getting done. My smooth-talking Saraswat friend met the Mamlatdar.
“This cannot be done,” said the latter. “Why?” asked my friend. “Because the 
owner
is dead,” was the daft response. “I know he is dead,” said my friend, “that’s 
why I filed
the Inventario!” Nine months on, the mutation is yet to be delivered.

Not to suggest that ALL talathis, postmen and Mamlatdars are corrupt – there 
still
are, mercifully, a few with some ‘Goemkarponn’ left in them. But only a few. So
rampant was malpractice at the village Talathi’s level that special posts of 
“Talathi for
Mutation” were created at each Taluka office. Revenue records were computerized.
Did things improve for the ‘aam aadmi’? Ha, now it’s more like jets being 
piloted by
bullock-cart drivers. (To continue.)

PS: Strange twists can occur when a language is twirled around an alien script.
Sample this catch line in a newspaper ad on Oct 29 & 30: “Bum fodo, inaam 
jeeto.” In
Romi Konknni, it would sound some strange “break the bum, your prize is still 
alive.”
There are more colourful – but unprintable – interpretations. The line, of 
course, was
in Romi Hindi! (ENDS)

The Valmiki Fale

[Goanet] Daily Grook #270

2008-11-08 Thread Francis Rodrigues

DAILY GROOK #270
_ 

TEMPER DAMPER
_
by Francis Rodrigues
 
 
rhythmic failure
learnin the drums,
gives the teacher
tempo tantrums!
 
 
__
puns & word-play of all kinds,
if you read between the lines!
_
http://2008goanconvention.com/nostalgia.php
_



[Goanet] FRIDAY BALCAO:Promoting & protecting child rights:need for a citizens movement in Goa.

2008-11-08 Thread Goa Desc
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We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO
on 14th November from 4pm. to 6pm.
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Feira Alta, Mapusa.

TOPIC: Promoting & protecting child rights:
 need for a citizens movement in Goa.
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[Goanet] Talking Photos: Fishcurry Rice at City Pride

2008-11-08 Thread JoeGoaUk
Talking Photos: Fishcurry Rice at City Pride

City Pride
This is a small but very busy restaurant at St. Inez junction,
 opp Kala Academy or behind Campal Military hostpital.

Full Rice
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/3011522640/

half Rice
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/3011522398/


Vel’lio (fried frish)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/3011522190/
Each vel’li cost us Rs.5 (i.e. 50 for 10) very expensive.

The same we ate few months ago at Betim for Rs.25 only and  for 15pcs
See pic here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk_fishcurryrice/2442411923/


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[Goanet] w: Elaine Murray - FR. BERNARD DIGAL DIES. INDIA MOURNS ANOTHER MARTYR OF ORISSA.

2008-11-08 Thread rosario franco
Dear Sir,

One of my calix Greta D'souza has pass this touching news of
Fr. Benard Digal... I Like to Share it with Goanet;s friends
Rosario Franco de (Tuem)
===

NEW DELHI, India, OCT. 30, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Father
Bernard Digal, 45, died in a hospital Wednesday from wounds he
sustained in late August, when he was beaten by Hindu
extremists.

The priest served in the Archdiocese of
Cuttack-Bhubaneswar,
in the state of Orissa, the hotbed for a large portion of
the anti-Christian violence that has plagued India since
the August death of a Hindu leader.

Father Mrutyunjay Digal, secretary of Archbishop Raphael
Cheenath of that archdiocese, announced the priest's
death to the Fides news agency.. He said the community was in
"a moment of mourning, of silence and of prayer for the entire
local Church."

"During his life, Father Bernard showed determination and
courage to give testimony and die for Christ," the secretary
added. "He has died as an authentic Christian; immediately
after the attack he suffered, he pardoned his enemies and
persecutors."

The Fides agency cited Indian Christian organizations in
reporting that some 100 Christians have died as a result of
the wave of persecution, while thousands have been wounded.
Some 15,000 Christians are living in refugee camps and
perhaps as many as 40,000 more have fled to the jungle to
hide from the extremists.
 ===
READ THE SAD DETAILS OF THE SAVAGERY
TO THE PRIEST AND HIS FLOCK IN ORISSA

Mumbai: Fr Bernard Digal Dies, India Mourns another Martyr
of Orissa Mumbai, Oct 29:
Fr Bernard Digal has died after a slow agony of more than
two months. The religious, brutally beaten by Hindu
fundamentalists the night of August 25, has
died two months later, this evening at 9:25 local time, from
the serious injuries he suffered in the assault. On a
Saturday, October 25, a feverish Fr. Digal was taken to St.
a Thomas Hospital in Chennai, in Tamil Nadu; the doctors
operated on him to remove a blood clot from his brain,
caused by the beating on the night he was attacked.
Yesterday, his lungs collapsed and he fell into a coma.This
morning, the bishop of the diocese gave him the anointing of
the sick; Raphael Cheenath, archbishop of Cuttack-Bhubaneshwar,
was at his deathbed. The religious was
given a respirator to keep him alive, but his body gave out.
Last September 10, we published an interview of Fr. Bernard
Digal, given from the bed at the the Holy Spirit Hospital in
Mumbai where he was hospitalized. During the interview, he
told AsiaNews about the night of the attack and the violence
he suffered. Fr. Bernard denounced 'without bitterness,
but also without sweetness' the brutality of the assault,
following which 'he remained unconscious and half naked in
the forest for an entire night, until he was
found by his driver.' 'Fr. Bernard has been given the
martyr's crown,' Raphael Cheenath, archbishop of
Cuttack-Bhubaneshwa, tells AsiaNews. 'Fr. Bernard succumbed
to the merciless beatings from the Hinduvta extremists. The
Kandhamal Christians now have a powerful intercessor in
 heaven, Fr. Bernard will now continue his work for our
people from his heavenly home.' 'I Thought I Might Not Even
Get a Burial': Fr. Digal Priest Recounts Close Brush With
Death In Orissa.Father Bernard Digal, one of three Catholic
priests who escaped death during anti-Christian violence in
Orissa state, wondered if he would even get a burial after
being beaten and left to die.

 Earlier News:Father Digal, treasurer of Cuttack-Bhubaneswar
archdiocese, was visiting Sankarakhole parish when the
violence began on Aug. 24. He narrated his close brush with
death to UCA News.On Aug. 23, the priest and his driver
Sisir Pradhan left the archdiocesan headquarters in the
state capital of Bhubaneswar, 1,745 kilometers southeast of
New Delhi. They reached Sankarakhole at around 10:30 pm. 'We
had dinner. As we were preparing to go to bed after a tiring
day, we received a call' saying Swami Laxmanananda
Saraswati, a Hindu leader based in the state's Kandhamal
district, was shot dead. 'I could not believe it. We went to
bed,' he recalled.. He recounted that he woke up the next
morning hearing anti-Christian slogans and people yelling
outside,' saying they wanted to kill missioners. Father
Alexander Chandy, the parish's 65-year-old pastor, Pradhan
and Father Digal remained inside the church compound the
whole day and moved to a forested area at night. The
situation 'got worse' on Aug. 24, Father Digal
continued.

'We kept getting information on attacks and killings in
villages. We got stuck in the forest and survived on dry
food.'Father Chandy was sick and could not walk far. To
provide him better shelter, the younger priest and his
driver went to the house of another priest's brother in the
village. They wanted to use his motorcycle to go to a safer
place. Father Digal said they saw the entire house,
including the motorcycle, on fire

Re: [Goanet] Surprise expression.

2008-11-08 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
Barad  boroita:

[1] Jose Colaco, Metric fail (Check Goanet achieves) wrote:

[2] Baba Barad,  it was I (jc) who modified the subject line

[3] Barad's  Response: Yes I changed subject line initially

[4] And by the way Jose you have been faulting Rules of Goanet to the
extent that you are posing challenge to Goanet moderators including
Owner of Goanet whether they should consider your ouster from Goanet,
the SECOND time!

[5] What's World Englishers and Portuguese Guzzlers is about and these
were my basic questions to you. .

[6] Jose Colaco, you can take this thread to what ever limit you can
stretch..I will be with the THREAD.

==
jc's response:

Baba Barad,

re #1  What is "metric fail" ?

re #4  When did  Jose's FIRST ouster from GoaNet take place?

re # 6  Silk or Raw Silk?

#2 & #3 are self exclusive hence ignored

# 5 makes as much sense as "Metric" fail. It is also irrelevant to the
discussion. Hence ignored.

You may check GoaNet archives. You will find two GMC graduates who
have listed themselves as "Matric" (not Metric) Fail. One of them is
jose. another is Santoshbab. It is my submission that when it was time
for jc and Santoshbab to attend high school ..the Matric was NO
LONGER awarded but the SSC was! Comprende?

But ... then English is a difficult language. Is it not?

OK Barad - let me allow you to have the final say on this thread. You
are the beshtesht. You probably are the only one in the world who
would be "Metric" Pass! OK?

jc


[Goanet] Letters to the Editor

2008-11-08 Thread Arwin Mesquita
Dear All

Pls see 2 particular letters (1) Nuvem Mega-projects (2) Ban the FFA (See
Link and letters re-pasted)


http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=12279&cid=13



*Nuvem's mega-projects
Arwin Mesquita, Abu Dhabi
*Another battle against mega-projects, now in Nuvem. What will it take for
our corrupt government to stop these monstrosities, which are against Goan
interests? What is the local MLA doing to support the people of Nuvem?
I hope that the spirited people of Nuvem succeed in their battle against the
mega-projects; and draw inspiration from the many other successful
anti-mega-project movements across Goa. The Goa Government of the builders
and the land sharks needs to be sent a loud, strong and clear message that
either they act for Goan interests or else the Goan people will!
*

--
*

*
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Ban the FFA
Alberto Mascarenhas e Fernandes, Ponda
*The worthless Freedom Fighters' Association (FFA) should be banned as they
have led us into the current mess we are in where we are on the verge of
losing our identity. Unemployment is rampant and we are left with only their
hollow promises as made in 1961 but now conveniently forgotten. The only
'freedoms' now in practice are rampant corruption, goondagiri, thefts and
'what is yours is mine', i.e., the decorated Bandodkarial barbaric mundkars
and tenancy acts to displace Goans with non-Goans which seems to be working
brilliantly.
The proposed rally seems to be nothing but another gimmick to get more state
benefits, reservations and pension for them and their extended family
members. That is the only reason these pseudo-patriotic pro-merger bunch of
chest-thumpers are fighting for another state's language to be made our own.
Why don't they ask their fellow countrymen to ban English? Maybe we need our
own Raj to send these gallivanting Maratha hooligans back to Maharashtra,
where they belong and not try to teach us what and what is not Goan.


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[Goanet] Surprise expression.

2008-11-08 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
This message is in reply to Message: 6, Dated: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 from: "J.
Colaco < jc>" 

Dr. Jose Colaco, M.D., LL. B., Metric fail (Check Goanet achieves) wrote:
Baba Barad,

re # 2: I wish that one day, Barad understands simple English. For Barad's
info, it was I (jc) who modified the subject line because Barad had violated
a GoaNet rule. If I hadn't changed the subject line, I too would have been
violating that rule

My Response: Yes I changed subject line initially because I felt it had to
be that way and you re-changed the subject line because you did not want my
subject line to travel Goan Boundaries (Check for yourself). 

And by the way Dr. Jose you have been faulting Rules of Goanet to the extent
that you are posing challenge to Goanet moderators including Owner of Goanet
whether they should consider your ouster from Goanet, the second time!

Doctor Jose, remember I can keep a tab on all your responses to prove as to
how you are faulting the Rules of Goanet under disguise of you claiming to
be LL.B. 

Despite this, I can comfortably say that even Metric Fail GOAN WILL defeat
you in your ideology at any forum IN GOA. 

And lastly Dr. Jose. Although English is difficult (as every other
langue prevailing in world) ... you conveniently preferred not to answer
What's World Englishers and Portuguese Guzzlers is about and these were my
basic questions to you. .

Dr. Jose Colaco, you can take this thread to what ever limit you can
stretch..I will be with the thread. 

Best regards,

Dr. U. G. Barad






[Goanet] Terror bogey - V.VENKATESAN

2008-11-08 Thread marshallmendonza
How laws are used to browbeat and subdue minorities in India. POTA for muslims 
and Freedom of Religion Act for christians.
http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/20081121252303200.htm

Regards,

Marshall


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[Goanet] Saffron terror

2008-11-08 Thread marshallmendonza
Article on hindutva terror in Frontline. Read on.
http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/20081121252310100.htm

Regards,

Marshall


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[Goanet] Saffron has a go at history - Khushwant Singh

2008-11-08 Thread marshallmendonza
Yet another insightful article on the brainwashing of hindu youth. Are we 
surprised at the kind of violence then? Goans need to be constantly reminded 
that the HJS / SS which has been involved in bomb blasts has its headquarters 
in Goa.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?sectionName=HomePage&id=ec9a3af8-511f-4612-8602-bf6eb40cd378&MatchID1=4816&TeamID1=6&TeamID2=1&MatchType1=1&SeriesID1=1212&PrimaryID=4816&Headline=Saffron+has+a+go+at+history

Regards,

Marshall


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[Goanet] The opposition from the Freedom Fighters.

2008-11-08 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
In a democratic society, anyone has the right to express his own opinion.

 

So, the demonstration of opposition from the so called "Freedom Fighters"
regarding the Portuguese week in Goa is not unlawful and no doubt that they
are entitled to say whatever they want to say publicly. 

 

In the same way, Goans who want to celebrate and attend the Portuguese week
are equally entitled to do so. We live in democracy after all.

 

Sadly, what people actually fail to understand is that these are actually
fake freedom fighters.

 

Majority of them demonstrate not because of what they truly believe but
because they need to continue to demonstrate publicly so that the Goan
government continues to pay their pensions and other benefits such as the
special Goa University seats for their descendents, etc.

 

The true Goan Freedom Fighters are the ones who fought for an independent
state of Goa. Not a conquered Goa by Portugal and not a conquered Goa by the
Indian Union. 

 

Goa is not an independent state. It has been invaded and conquered by its
younger brother - the Republic of India - in 1961 and d abandoned by
Portugal in 1976. 

 

The real Goan freedom fighters were betrayed by both Republic of India and
Portugal. In the end, we Goan lost out!

 

The dream of the real freedom fighters is today forgotten. 

But real freedom fighters were the ones who wanted a democratic and free
independent Goa.

We got a democratic Goa and we got our freedom from the Portuguese. But we
remain conquered by The Republic of India whose foundation and borders are
younger than the Goan territorial borders by centuries.

 

Best regards

Paulo Colaco Dias.

 

 

 

 



[Goanet] Mining and Art?

2008-11-08 Thread Venantius Pinto
Dear Hatman,
A followup:
My opinion has always been that is solely the prerogative of the curator as
to who gets shown. Period.
Of course interviews with the curator often reveal their thinking
and selection process. Curators are also collectors, and the art markets is
complex, but it is still their right to shape shows as per the concept they
are presenting to the viewing public. They also shape the market, much as
the artists may if they choose, and often do. The artst can always be an
artist even if not known or with no works being sold. The curator needs art
to curate.

venantius


> From: "Hartman de Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Goanet] Mining and Art?
>
> One
> is, of course, a little surprised, if not bewildered that the irascible but
> brilliant Charudutta Prabhudesai finds no place on this otherwise fresh and
> exciting take on Goan contemporary art.
>
>


Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1431

2008-11-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Marlon "heads" some anti-conservative contingent
> on Goanet?  Oh, really?  That may come as a shock to him,
> who was last heard from pretending to be a Libertarian:-)) 
> What a comedian, that Marlon:-))
>

Everybody is conspiring against the conservatives, including Libertarians. 
Those who are not with them are against them.

Cheers,

Santosh


  


Re: [Goanet] Thanks, but no thanks

2008-11-08 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> While supporting Obama and his policies, Marlon obviously
> likes McCain because McCain is more like a Democrat than
> most Republicans.  Which is one reason he may have lost. 
> Many voters said, "Why vote for a Democrat-like
> Republican - might as well vote for a real Democrat?" 
> So Marlon's guy won.
> 

This is absolutely true. Bush or Chenney as the candidate would have won by a 
landslide against Obama.

Cheers,

Santosh


  


[Goanet] Can you listen as well as you read?

2008-11-08 Thread edward desilva
Hi All,
See if you are a victim:
A top judge has warned that today's young, online generation may have trouble 
acting as jurors because they can't listen for long stretches. But is it easier 
to pick up information from a written passage or a spoken version? Try this 
unscientific test. 

The influence of the internet is threatening one of the cornerstones of British 
justice - the jury trial, according to the most senior judge in England and 
Wales. Lord Judge of Draycote, the Lord Chief Justice, says when it comes to 
information gathering, the net promotes reading at the expense of listening. 
We've decided to put his theory to the test by inviting readers to try our 
reading v listening test. At the heart of it is a short piece of testimony by 
the infamous murderer Dr Crippen from his trial in 1910. 

Click on the audio console below to hear it being read 
Then answer five questions about what you've just heard 
Then read the same passage in text and answer five different questions 
The whole thing should take no more than 10 minutes. 
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7715868.stm





[Goanet] Mining and Art?

2008-11-08 Thread Venantius Pinto
 It also behooves artists to be aware of what they are getting into. Very
often artists do not know the details of an exhibiting enterprise. They are
only to hapy to be shown and seen, while internally discussing who is or who
is not an artist. It takes a while to imbue the kind of
awareness delineated in Hartman's thoughts, though not essentially required
of an artist, nor the kinds of demands most artists subject themselves to.
While remembering that individuals march to their own tune -- their own
'hyperphysics' one can only expect so much. Corporate sponsorship is often
ardently pursued to realize projects. But awareness of what is entailed, one
hopes is always considered. There are many kinds of interventions which the
art cognoscenti, curator's and the artists themselves should attempt to make
the field more egalitarian -- to begin with, it ought to be a concern. This
takes time and some vision; failing which it is business as usual for the
corporates and their PR personel. Subject matter on the part of an artist,
and that difficult subjects get show is an altogether another issue but one
that must confront notions of what it is to give and receive monies.

One cannot be faulted in believing that artists of a certain stature -- in
terms of measurable succes in the current art firmament, would be aware of
what they associate with. This is easier said than done. Artists have to
learn to voice themselves; for instance against the recent comments by
Freedom Fighters against namesakes, things, and ideas Portuguese -- at the
very, very least as a quid pro quo, by those having benfitted from ideas
stemming from the Reformation, and many will contine to do so through
various Portugese organs, relationships, educational experiences and other
quaint blushes with colonialism. But this may be harder to do in Goa than I
think. In Goa despite perceptions and appearances many of these
beneficiaries are not in large number Christians. This means that
opportunities that have been available have not spurned, to say the least --
they have been availed of. I say this since one cannot tell someone what
opportunity to accpet or reject, as long as one knows how ones bed is beng
made; or perhaps be blissfully unaware -- this not being entirely
contradicory, although it may appear as such.

Venantius J Pinto





> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:28:10 +0530
> From: "Hartman de Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Goanet] Mining and Art?
>
> * *
>
> On November 4th, The Rt. Hon. Keith Vaz MP,  inaugurated, at the Nehru
> Centre, London, 'Goa Contemporaries', an exhibition of works on paper by
> seven Goa-based artists. Presented by Kiki's London, the show is
> co-sponsored by the Vasantrao Dempo Education and Research Trust and
> Sunaparanta Goa Centre for the Arts, a Dattaraj V Salgaocar initiative.
>
>
>
> How terribly sad!
>
>
>
> Not the exhibition itself, whose curator is the well-known writer, Maria
> Mascarenhas, who is herself an art collector with a discerning eye. From
> all
> appearances, a great deal of thought has gone into bringing together the
> work of Julio De Souza, Swatee Kotwal, Apurva Kulkarni, Deviprasad C Rao,
> Suhas Shilker, and Norman Tagore. A high point of the exhibition is
> showcasing the work of Vamona Navalcar, Goa's senior-most artist, and the
> first Goan to study at the Escola Superior de Belas Artes of Portugal. One
> is, of course, a little surprised, if not bewildered that the irascible but
> brilliant Charudutta Prabhudesai finds no place on this otherwise fresh and
> exciting take on Goan contemporary art.
>
> (DELETED)
> It does not appear that the mining corporations responsible for the
> non-profits that funded this art exhibition have understood this.
>
> Hartman de Souza
>
>
> End of Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1443
> ***
>


[Goanet] Rebel BJP leader files papers in Goa

2008-11-08 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
Rebel BJP leader files papers in Goa  
 
Saturday, 08 November , 2008, 14:33  

Panaji: Former state Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) president Suresh
Amonkar has filed his nomination for North Goa's Pale assembly
by-election as an independent candidate. The by-election has been
necessitated by the death of Congress legislator Gurudas Gauns. The
polling is on November 26. 

Amonkar, a two-time legislator and minister in the last BJP government,
was denied party nomination this time. The state BJP instead has fielded
a comparatively raw candidate in Pramod Sawant. 

The same party leaders, who had dismissed 'rumours' of Amonkar's
disenchantment with the party, were seen making a beeline for the
dissident BJP leader's house in Pale on Friday asking him to reconsider
his decision. 

Among the leaders who dropped in at Amonkar's home were state BJP
president and Lok Sabha MP Shripad Naik, leader of opposition Manohar
Parrikar, south Goa legislator Damodar Naik, along with former state BJP
presidents, Rajendra Arlekar and Laxmikant Parsenkar. 

After filing his nomination papers at Bicholim on Friday, Amonkar was
not clear if he would seek support from BJP's rival, Maharashtrawadi
Gomantak Party (MGP), who still haven't announced their strategy for the
forthcoming by-polls. "I am contesting as an independent because the BJP
denied me a ticket," Amonkar told reporters. 

Meanwhile, Chief Minister Digambar Kamat, Goa Pradesh Congress Committee
president Subhash Shirodkar and Health Minister Vishwajeet Rane
accompanied Congress candidate Pratap Gawas when he filed his nomination
for the Pale seat. Gawas is the brother of the late legislator. 

http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14793323

~(^^)~

Avelino

 
 



[Goanet] Talking photos : 'See my front side' (PG)

2008-11-08 Thread JoeGoaUk
 
Talking photos : See my front side  (PG)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk8/544880269/

To see the  front side, follow the link below the pic
This is found in the mini-garden opp. old touristt hostel or near old 
secretariat
 
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Re: [Goanet] Hindu or not ?

2008-11-08 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
 Samir Kelekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:  In response to JC's
question 'Is Samir Kelekar a Hindu?' I would like to
quote this beautiful song from Mohammaed Rafi...


jc: Thank you Samir. I  trust that your response answers Barad's poser to me.

BTW: Was anyone doing the Kathak while Rafi was singing that song?

jusht only asking

jc


[Goanet] Sonia Sirsat and Tuna Goesa regale audience in Lusofonia week

2008-11-08 Thread JoeGoaUk
[Goanet] Sonia Sirsat and Tuna Goesa regale audience in Lusofonia week


Thanks Bernado,


Sonia Sirsat can sing in 13 different languages

Here are just 6 of them..
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=2eSV-nEHnSA


Quote:

Goa's top class and polyglot singer Sonia Sirsat regaled a Macau audience with 
her impeccable voice by singing our Goan mandos, deknis, and the immemorial 
fados. Her rendition of Cancao do Mar (Dulce Pontes) brought the audience to 
their feet. Sonia was ably supported by the superb Trio Orlando.


Our Goan traditional dances was show cased by Messias Tavares. These group of 
artists are in Macau to celebrate the Lusofonia week. This years our Goan matou 
is a replica of the Aguada Farol built in 1612 and one of the oldest in Asia - 
courtsey Mr. Francisco 'Chico' Lopes. Food delicacies were once again provided 
by our sisters alias mannas.

A big up to our Goan artists who displayed top talents. 

Freedom Fighters GET OUT OF GOA. You can try to stop Goans culture in Goa, but 
you chaps can not stop us showing off elsewhere.

BC (from the Taipa amphitheatre)
==

Yes, FFs get out or shut up

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[Goanet] SON'VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: Amchem Xikxonn Kitlea Faideachem?

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1994)
 SON'VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: Amchem Xikxonn Kitlea Faideachem?
   -Jose Salvador Fernandes 
 
 
Xikxonn mhonnina borobor amchea dolleam mukhar ieta to xikovpi. Ani xikovpi 
mhonntanch amchea monant zannvayen bhorlolo, rit-rovixecho, sot ulovpi ani uzu 
margan cholpi, xikpeank ani somazant herank margdorxon divpi ek satvik monis 
oxe torechem chitr ubem ravta. Xikxonn fokot pustoka purtem asona, punn 
iskolachea char vonttim modlo bhair sortoch xikpi koxim-kat vagtat, vichar 
kortat vo ievjitat, khuinchi poristhiti koxi hatalltat, vorgant xikloleo gozali 
koxeo chalik laitat tachevelean xikxonnachem khoreponn disun ieta. Mhonntoch, 
xikxonn hem xikpeank sorv nodrentlean ghoddoupachem asta. Xikpeank  
xikxonnachea madheomantlean (medium) toxim ghoddounchim hi zobabdari 
xikovpeachi asta.
 
Aiz sonvsarantlea dor eka mollar zata titlo dorzo ganttpacho, ani zoddlolo 
dorzo samballpacho vavr nettan cholta. Oxe poristhitint, xikonnik dorzo khuim 
urta kai? 
 
"Aicho xikxonnacho dorzo bhouch spordheatmok (competitive) asa. Xikpi aplea 
career-a ani fuddara vixim aiz chodduch zagrut asat. Xikonnik mollar aiz jim 
zoitam zoddpachi dhanvddi suru zalea tea soglleacho ho porinnam," oxem Kolva 
Infant Jesus iskolant xikovpi Xri Tarkeshwar Naik sangta.
 
"Tea-tea kalla ani poristhiti pormannem xikxonnacho dorzo ho subjective asta, 
ani tacho orth sabar bhasamni dium ieta. Xikxonnik mollar, adlea kalla 
som'bondan aicho vichar kelear, aiz hea mollar khubxeo noveo pod'doti nirmann 
zatana distat. Dekhik, aiz coaching klasinchi ji pod'dot ailea ti adlea kallar 
nasli. Aiche xikpi hea coaching klasink gelea bogor porikxent poile-voile zage 
mellounk iesesvi zainant," oxem Divcholechea Govind Gunaji Sawant iskolant 
xikovpi Xri Ramesh Gaunsachem mot asa.
 
Aiz xikxonnachea dorjeacho vichar zata tednam, khubxea xikovpeanchea 
dolleancheo mauleo (eyebrows) apo-ap voir sortat, ani te khunnevelean ho 
dorjeacho mud'do tankam khuim tori xirkaita mhunn kollun ieta.
 
"Aiz xikxonnacho dorzo sarkoch khala denvla. Tache fattlem ek karonn mhonnlear, 
khubxe rajkornni lok soroll ani sarke vatten cholpi xikonnant aplem nak' 
cheptat, ani xikxonnachem molluch khotaun uddoitat," oxem aplem nanv porgottina 
zaunk maglole eke 'Higher Secondary' iskolache Prinsipalichem mot asa. Hea 
tichea mota kodde Kudd'ttorechea St. Alex Higher Secondary iskolant xikovpi 
Xmt. Chitra (Sirvoicar) Afonso sohomot asa.
 
"Aiz xikxonnacho dorzo khala gela hem sot. Eka kallar porikxechi ji pod'dot 
asli ti atam il'li-il'li kaddun uddoitat. Dekhik, adim dhaveche porikxent 
'rank' divpachi rit asli, punn atam tea bodlek 'grading' pod'dot suru kelea. 
Dusrem, vorsachea modemkot vo xevottak 'practical' porikxa astaleo. Teo-ui atam 
'secondary' iskolachea panvddear bodol'leat. Atam hich 'practical' porikxa 
vorsantlean kitlech pavtti asta, dekhun xikpi vorsachea xevottak porikxent 
vhoddlixi gombhirtai dakoina, xikunk thokos ghena," Vocational fantteant 
xikovpi Chitra-bai sangta.
 
Punn hea xikxonnachea dorjeacher, Pilarche Fr. Agnel Kolejicho Acting Prinsipal 
Pri. Frederick Rodrigues veglle toren vichar korta.
"Aiz xikxonnacho dorzo zannvayecher dhorlolo asa. Aiz xikxonn fokot porikxe 
purtem asa, tache poltoddi xikxonnacho vichar zaina. Porikxeche nodrentlean 
pustokantli zannvai ghevpant gul'l zaleat dekhun, tantum muliank (values), 
xikpeanchea gunnank, sorv nodrentlean tanche udorgotik khuinch zago na," oxem 
Pri. Rodrigues sangta.
 
Bhurgim lhanachim vhodd zatana, tannim borem xikop korun jivitant "ek vhodd 
monis" zavchem hem soglleach avoi-bapaichem sopon asta. Punn iskol-kolejintlem 
xikop "ek vhodd monis zaunk" vevharik (practical) nodrentlean kitlem yogdan 
dita te vixim unnem-punnem soglleanchim motam eksarkim asat.
 
"Xikxonn hem kednach vevharik zaunk na. Desacho Bapui Mahatma Gandhi xikxonna 
vixim mhonntalo – 'xikxonnant 3 'H' sarkeo gorjecheo – Head (Mon), Hand (Hat) 
ani Heart (Kalliz). Hea tin-ui 'H'-am modim somonvoi (co-ordination) asunk 
zai.' 1986 vorsa Raxttrik Xikxonn Dhoronn (National Education Policy) toyar 
kelem. Hea dhoronnant nagrikacho purai ritin vichar kela. Xikxonn ghetoch, 
mon'xak nokrechi sondi mellta, xikxonnak lagun monis aple hok'k zanna zaunk ani 
jiyeunk pavta, somazant apli zobabdari kitem ti to somzota; dekhun mon'xan 
xikxonn ghevop gorjechem oxem tea dhoronnant mhonnlam. Punn hem dhoronn 
vevharik nodrentlean azun-ui chalik lagunk na hi ek dukhachi gozal. Aiz, 
xikxonnantleo 3 'H' asat teo khuim tori fattlim-fuddem poddleat," oxem fattlim 
29 vorsam xikovpi mhunn vaurtolo Xri Gauns sangta.
 
"Aiz, Higher Secondary vo kolejint Commerce xikunk naslolim Arts fantteantlim 
pas zaun bhair sorlolim benkint nokri kortana distat. Vocational kurs xikun 
zatoch tea xikpeank khorem mhonnlear nokri m

Re: [Goanet] Goenkars: Hold on to your cash!

2008-11-08 Thread Gabe Menezes
2008/11/8 Bosco D'Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> RESPONSE: If AIG went under what would have happened to "the whole World's
> Banking"??


RESPONSE: Is it fair to ask the American tax payer to bail out the
whole Worlds Banking.

 RESPONSE: Surely you jest. Why just Akron?? Oshawa, Windsor, St Catherine
> (all in Canada) where GM, Chrysler, Ford have plants are in a similar bind.

Akron, Ohio is the home of Goodyear - hence the burning of tyres!

> RESPONSE: Now-now.are you making excuses for Obama's forthcoming
> failures?? Two days after being elected he is already on record saying he
> may not be able to 'fix' everything in one term.

RESPONSE: His opening victory speech - he said he may not be able to
fix it in one or two years perhaps not even one term - but with the
goodwill of everyone America as a whole will get there - I promise you
- or words to that effect.


Is the situation any better in the UK?? Close to 2 million unemployed (6%);
> Inflation at 16-year high (5.2%); Home prices depressed by 15% as compared
> to last year.

RESPONSE: Yes our situation is as bad or maybe worse than the USA -
interest rates have been cut by a whopping 1.5 percent to a 1955 low
of 3 percent., to help out.

Mortgage holders will benefit only if they have variable interest rate
loans - if fixed they will have to come off it at maturity, to avail
the cheaper loans.

Compounded, our Banks were sucked in, with buying Structured
Investment Vehicles (SIVs) - the Lehmans of this World packaged these
goodies and sold them on to our gullible Banks. The top shots have got
their bonuses and even if cleared out, are sitting comfy, while the
rest of the population have to tighten up their belts - Christmas,
this year will be a gloomy affair.

> Looks like the doom-and-gloom from the US is spreading across the pond and
> to the far reaches of the world. Ohh..and dont lose count of Russia's
> diminishing millionaires..somebody could possibly buy those Londoners in
> Blue for a song soon...:-)

RESPONSE: Me thinks it is between the blues and the reds from up
North, this season - I favour the blues - we shall see.

The man from Russia is purported to have lost 3 billion, which from
him, is neither here nor there.

> - Bosco
-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.

Gabe Menezes.
London.