[Goanet] Goa traditional markets...

2009-03-25 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]
Dear all: Was just putting together a list of traditional weekly
markets. The list below has obvious gaps, specially in central and
south Goa. Any inputs would be appreciated... FN

VILLAGE MARKETS

Dodomarg, Sun 6.30 am to 2 pm, 12 kms from Assonora
Banastarim, Thursday evening-Friday morning
Ponda, Wed and Sat almost full day (on way to bus stand, upper bazaar,
near Goa Bhagayatdar)
Bicholim, half-day Wed 7 am to 2 pm
Valpoi, Sunday morning
Sanquelim, Monday (like Singapore market)
Assonora, on Tuesdays
Aldona, was on Saturdays (still continued)?
Calangute, Saturdays. Sunrise to noon. Behind St Alex Church
Siolim, Wednesday market 7.30 am to 10 am, near St Anthony's Chapel
Pernem, Thursday, 7.30 am to 7 pm, near Municipal Council
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[Goanet] Filomeno Manuel Reis elevated as Additional Judge of

2009-03-25 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com

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Filomeno Manuel Reis elevated as Additional Judge
of Bombay High Court (Goa):
 
Margao-based lawyer, Filomeno Manuel Reis, has been elevated as Additional 
Judge of the Bombay High Court and will be sworn in along with Rajesh Govind 
Ketkar and Ravi Krishnarao Deshpande today, at the Bombay High Court's Central 
Room at 10.15 am. 
 
Filomeno Reis hails from Loutulim, Salcette and graduated with honours from 
Salgaocar Law College. He has practiced in lower courts as well as the Bombay 
High Court at Goa for over 25 years. 
 
[Info source: Gomantak Times/26-3-2009]
 
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[Goanet] DARKNESS OVER THE EARTH.

2009-03-25 Thread Averthan
DARKNESS OVER THE EARTH.
Averthanus L. D'Souza.


 The world's attention is now focused on the global economic downturn which 
economists are describing as the worst ever - even more serious than the Great 
Depression of the Thirties. The prognosis is ominous. It is expected to get 
worse 
before it gets better. The focus, understandably is on the financial 
institutions - 
the Banks, Insurance and Mortgage companies. Public anger is growing over the 
unconscionable actions of the top executives of these institutions who are so 
insensitive as to cock a snook at the public at large. They have gifted 
themselves 
massive bonuses out of the bailout packages which were made available to them 
out of 
public taxpayer's money. Taxpayers are enraged that these bonuses were given 
even to 
executives who had left the Banks and Insurance companies a long time ago. One 
former top executive of a failed Bank sought to justify these bonus payments as 
being quite appropriate because these characters are the only ones who are 
capable 
of undoing the mess which they themselves created in the first place. The real 
extent of the losses of the Banks and Insurance companies was not revealed at 
the 
time of asking for government support. The figures had been manipulated to hide 
the 
reality. The actual losses are only now being revealed by the investigators; 
and the 
true picture will emerge only after the investigations have been completed.

 It appears that the practice of fudging of accounts is not limited to the 
institutions that have requested, and which have been bailed out. The tampering 
of 
books of accounts is far more widespread than meets the eye. It is like a 
cancer 
which has eaten into the entire system to an extent that is unimaginable. What 
is 
even more distressing is the fact that the auditing agencies which are expected 
to 
detect such fudging of accounts and to report them to the proper authorities 
have 
colluded with the criminals in their criminal activities. In this respect they 
are 
also culpable for the collapse of the financial system. The focus of political 
discussions has now turned to an examination of the entire 'systems failure' 
and the 
need to replace the existing system with one which is more transparent and more 
responsible. It is becoming clearer as the days go by that mere damage control 
is 
not going to be helpful. The entire system has to be replaced by one which will 
be 
more effective and more accountable. Financial 'experts' and commentators are 
finally admitting that what has happened is a massive ethical failure - not 
merely a 
collapse of the financial system.

 It should not come as a surprise, therefore, that many of the terrorist 
attacks 
have been directed against financial and commercial centres - the twin Trade 
Towers 
in New York, and Mumbai, the commercial capital of India (these being the more 
notable), and other economically sensitive centres. These centres represent 
what is 
most repugnant to the terrorists - a deification of greed and the unquenchable 
quest 
for wealth. The financial institutions are temples of idolatry.

 After all the preliminary discussions in smaller groups, such as the Davos 
Conference of Finance Ministers, the Group of the 20 richest countries 
(commonly 
referred to as the G-20) is scheduled to meet in April in London. It will be 
opportune for this meeting to carefully analyse the fundamental values (or 
rather 
the lack of values) which underlie the existing financial and commercial 
system, 
which has proven to be unreliable and irrelevant to our times. The discussions 
should not merely focus on financial systems and the need to put in place more 
regulations; rather, the discussions should concentrate on the values of greed, 
competition and avarice which have determined the present economic structures, 
and 
which have most definitively proven to be unreliable. The entire financial, 
commercial and trading system needs to be overhauled and substituted by a new 
system 
built on the virtues of cooperation, compassion and the removal of disparities 
between the rich and the poor nations, and between the rich and the poor within 
each 
nation. The very idea of competition which has driven the economic system thus 
far 
needs to be abandoned in favour of equitable distribution of the Earth's 
resources 
and a system of common processing of these resources to benefit everyone. The 
British Prime Minister Mr. Gordon Brown alluded to this in his recent address 
to the 
Joint Houses of the U.S. Congress.

 The failure of the financial and the economic system, however, is not an 
isolated 
phenomenon. It is part of a larger syndrome which may be described as the 
cancerous 
growth of the culture of death. This culture of death is clearly manifest in 
the 
lifestyle of the present generation and the general deterioration of human 
values. 
It covers the entire spectrum from the beginning to the end of life. The media 
are 

[Goanet] An open letter to Digambar bab

2009-03-25 Thread Antonio Menezes
Before you put up a candidate for Lokh Sabha elections from South Goa ,
please try to understand
the geography of Salcete in particular.  Salcete is divided into east and
west portions. The easy
runs from Guirdolim, Macasana, Curtorim, Raia, Loutulim, Verna, Sancoale and
Chicalim  but
west Salcete has an overwhelming electorate that can make a difference.
If all you think is Alsu or Forsulo,  well i leave it to your imagination.


[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (26Mar09)

2009-03-25 Thread alexyz fernandes
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[Goanet] Xavier's News and Features, E-Service (XNFES): Party Snacks Course

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[Goanet] Suicide squad spells out its mission

2009-03-25 Thread Nelson Rodrigues



 
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/hindu-suicide-squad-spells-out-its-mission/74411-3.html
 
 
Suicide squad spells out its mission
Deepa Balakrishnan / CNN-IBN
Published on Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 18:39in Indiasection 
 
FEAR FACTOR: Ram Sena, a self proclaimed army of God, was started by Pramod 
Mutalik. 
 
Bangalore:Two days after the first attack on churches, the streets of Mangalore 
wore a deserted look. But it wasn’t the VHP or the Christians who had called 
the bandh. 
The fear of a new and little known outfit – the Sri Ram Sena, a self proclaimed 
army of God started by radical thinker Pramod Mutalik – kept residents indoors.
According to Mutalik there are “1,132 members in the suicide squad.”
“They keep track of activities of anti-Hindu and anti-national groups. They 
also inform the police. From our side, we want to help the police as much as 
possible. If the police can't stop this, our teams will,” Mutalik said.
The Ram Sena reportedly holds arms training camps in Mangalore, Belgaum and 
Shimoga. 
“Our motive is to kill anti-national elements. In Hubli, Belguam, Goa and 
Dharwad, we were the ones to lead the police to terror training camps. We told 
them about their activities,” Mutalik revealed.
Mutalik started out as a saffron activist but over the last few months, the BJP 
has been shying away from associating with him and the Ram Sena. 
“Ram Sena is not with us. They are not our outfit,” BJP leader and Karnataka 
Home Minister VS Acharya said.
The police claim the Ram Sena is all talk and false threats. Sources also say 
the sena's commitment does not match those of fundamentalist groups like the 
SIMI. 
Though, Mutalik is currently evading arrest for making provocative speeches, 
saffron observers say his fundamentalism is weak, but not to be ignored. 


 


[Goanet] Silly Excuses to protect Timblo.

2009-03-25 Thread Arwin Mesquita
 CM Digambar Kamat please stop using silly excuses of protecting the
interests of  the approx 600 employees; it is clear that you only want to
protect Timblos and not actually the employees. Are all these 600 people
actually employed in the disputed area? Bottom Line is that the illegal
structure constructed by Cidade De Goa should be demolished, as per the
Supreme Court Order. As the Corrupt Goa Government clearly allowed the
Timblo illegality, both the Government and Timblo Management should be
tasked with offering similiar employment to the affected Goans elsewhere and
also compensation packages in addition; fully paid for by Timblos, as they
certainly reaped huge profits for years, from the balant illegality!!

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[Goanet] The Carnival Called Election

2009-03-25 Thread Freddy Fernandes
The Carnival Called Election

It looks likes all Politicians; those young, not so young and even the very old;
those who have been lying  "spent" and exhausted after a roll in the hay, their
orgy with corruption and debauchery for the past five years, have revitalized
themselves with "ginseng" and are rearing to take off yet again. Those who have
been snoring away to glory unheard of in the past five years have just got up
and are coughing and puffing their lungs out, letting people know that they are
still alive and kicking. I had not realized that the white haired "lion" was
still alive, till I read his statement in the news paper the other day. I
thought he was dead and cremated soon after the last election.

 The election dates are all set and the monkeys are up and about jumping from
branch to branch, tree to tree. I am not so sure if they are in heat and looking
for a mate or just a suitor, a buffet table or a freebee?  Lalu has detached his
bogey from the Bihar-Delhi Express of the Congress train and got himself hooked
with his nemesis in Bihar's Local Mail, while on the other side of the fence
Naveen Patnaik has pulled himself out of the saffronised axis of the communal
BJP and shackled himself to the SP bandwagon of Mayawati, along with the Left
Front, to form the so called Third Front. Whether it will remain a Third Front
or a Tattered Front only time will tell. 

On yet another front Uma Devi who has been playing hide 'n seek with the BJP on
numerous occasions, has promised her full support to the balding Parrot, who
only recites the Hindutva mantra, "I will  build Ram Temple", probably
forgetting Ram, Jesus, Allah or any other name for the Almighty, lives more in
the hearts of people, rather than  the structures we build, and thinking he was
born to be PM of India, but whose aspirations are yet to be fulfilled. Only time
will tell if India will wear the saffron turban, meanwhile the ex-queen of Tamil
films Jaylalitha the "keep" of the great MG Ramachandran, sitting on a powder
keg of the LTTE, is in a quandary as to whom to support, not sure which side the
winds will be blowing. Will she blow rest of the fronts to kingdom come ?  Only
time will tell.  

Looking at the a few young names, that have come over the horizon, I had a
feeling that may be perceptions and realities in Indian politics will change and
wham, comes a blot of lightening and smothers all those aspiration to mere
ashes, by the foot in the mouth hate speech of Varun Gandhi. Is this the future
we want for India? Dirty politics to the fore again, BJP claim they have nothing
to do with his speech but they still support his candidature. Where is Indian
Politics heading ? 

I was very happy, that Shashi Tharoor has joined politics, it's educated people
of his stature and quality that are required in Indian politics at the moment
and the communal people filled with hate, the likes of Varun Gandhi, that we can
do without. 

In India Elections are like the Carnival, there are personalities, there is
flare, both are extravaganzas, both are watched with equal zest, mass
participation and a lot of money flowing and clowns a plenty on all sides. The
carnival has really began, masks, make up kits and the different costumes are
available in plenty, to hide the obvious aberrations, from the public eye. They
will all try to display passion and jest to cover up their obscure vision,
spewing an unending list of soon to be forgotten promises.

King Momo and his brigade of jokers will line in and zoom on at every possible
street corner to perform "khel tiatr" or any act that will impress the local
populace with their guile. There will be money flowing out of every political
well, like oil flowing from of the Gulf. Bars and restaurants will be patronized
and free food will be served and liquor will flow like water from a stream. The
slogan will be "eat, drink and be merry at our cost" but be certain that Goa
will pay and pay very dearly, as we have been paying.

If we Goans fall prey to the dirty conniving tactics of these corrupt
politicians, it will most certainly not be a comedy by errors but rather tragedy
by design.

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[Goanet] Goa news for March 26, 2009

2009-03-25 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Kamat lands in trouble as SC stays ordinance - Economic
Times
ed Congress government in Goa, the Supreme Court on Tuesday put
on hold state governments decision to amend the century-old Land
Acquisition Act which ˜saved Fomento Resorts ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Kamat-lands-in-trouble-as-SC-stays-ordinance/articleshow/4312049.cms&cid=1319508075&ei=e77KScvyEZ-ukQTt4fGADw&usg=AFQjCNHlyo61TpaHQvo51bLJthh88W35Sw

*** Goa Assembly congratulates Slumdog Millionaire\'s team -
Hindu
&
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/009200903231980.htm&cid=1319297176&ei=e77KScvyEZ-ukQTt4fGADw&usg=AFQjCNGtrSE9yBsEhdKAXwSyOx4HdPn-Rw

*** Goa cops beat up partying tourists - Times of India
&
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Goa-cops-beat-up-partying-tourists/articleshow/4307751.cms&cid=1319210450&ei=e77KScvyEZ-ukQTt4fGADw&usg=AFQjCNGh3dVKz3WAQgSQpkcPtLxFk2WauA

*** Navy chopper crashes off Goa coast - Hindu
&
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200903251680.htm&cid=1320301091&ei=e77KScvyEZ-ukQTt4fGADw&usg=AFQjCNFxUcn34UNx246QPK1K03Og4nvtBg

*** Bullfighting is now a legal sport in Goa - Business
Standard
&
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/bullfighting-is-nowlegal-sport-in-goa/57298/on&cid=1319947336&ei=e77KScvyEZ-ukQTt4fGADw&usg=AFQjCNGxNCDZ7sMs1NdExSW8__31wdk4Fg

*** Auditor slams Goa government over special economic zones -
Thaindian.com
&
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/auditor-slams-goa-government-over-special-economic-zones_100171193.html&cid=1320370640&ei=e77KScvyEZ-ukQTt4fGADw&usg=AFQjCNGMqUiIBWFQX9gbxTo9fHnU8-xsdA

*** VIPs splurge on 5-star stays - Times of India
tar accommodation in Delhi for Goan VIPs were given in the
assembly on Monday in reply to an unstarred question by Mapusa
BJP MLA Francis D'Souza. Rooms for the VIPs had been booked by
the Goa Sadan. Commissioner for NRI affairs Eduardo ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/VIPs-splurge-on-5-star-stays/articleshow/4311716.cms&cid=0&ei=e77KScvyEZ-ukQTt4fGADw&usg=AFQjCNHTrN6pZgHddT9_8WPeew86Tpk9yA

*** Company Review: Sesa Goa - Livemint
0% pa over the next two years, and volumes to touch 25mn by
FY12. However, with no respite expected in the prevailing
downcast conditions, we expect demand for iron ore to decline
from China. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.livemint.com/2009/03/24113104/Company-Review-Sesa-Goa.html&cid=0&ei=e77KScvyEZ-ukQTt4fGADw&usg=AFQjCNFuX1NSJr2tR4hoc0acD3S4qRIS6Q

*** Drought: Athani villagers migrating to Goa, Mrashtra -
Express Buzz
it villages in Athani, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Drought:+Athani+villagers+migrating+to+Goa,+M%E2%80%99rashtra&artid=ycurD2uC4hM=&SectionID=7GUA38txp3s=&MainSectionID=fyV9T2jIa4A=&SectionName=zkvyRoWGpmWSxZV2TGM5XQ==&SEO=&cid=0&ei=e77KScvyEZ-ukQTt4fGADw&usg=AFQjCNHk6C2wawbEe7Asy2c-TCckL2uPRg

*** Goa International Filmfest moots Jackie Chan section -
Indiantelevision.com
diantelevision.com, IndiaBy TARACHAND WANVARI Hong Kong: Jackie
Chan could find his way into the Goa international film festival
this November. "We have invited Jackie Chan for the 40th
International Film Festival," revealed Directorate of Film
Festivals director SM Khan while ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://www.indiantelevision.com/aac/y2k9/aac154.php&cid=0&ei=e77KScvyEZ-ukQTt4fGADw&usg=AFQjCNGIL2cKwyYWbqSpEVa_VeBJLn9SRg


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[Goanet] Obsession with other people's religion

2009-03-25 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Santosh Helekar:
Why are there misguided people and organizations in this world?Why do we
have left-wing and right-wing fringe political activists and organizations
in India and the U.S.?Why do criminals infest all political parties and
organizations?Cheers,Santosh

Response:
It comes as a pleasant surprise that Santosh accepts and agrees that Vijay
Prashad did make some substantive points in his article about the VHPA and
the kind of people that it attracts in the USA. For once Santosh and Vijay
Prashad are on the same wavelength.

Regards,

Marshall


[Goanet] Generals of Saffron

2009-03-25 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Marlon Menezes:
I also happened to have many second generation pub going, meat eating
Gujarati friends (ABCDs) who happened to be pro BJP (pre Modi). They were
pro BJP not because of ideology, but because they correctly viewed the
Congress party as being corrupt.

Response:
It is indeed reassuring to hear from Marlon that all is hunky dory with the
Indian Americans and that they do not love the BJP because of its ideology.
I request him to carry this message to all the victims of hindutva violence
especially in Gujarat, Orissa and Mangalore, while distributing his
certificate. Perhaps, he could also consider carrying a copy of the articles
linked below along with the certificates.

http://www.proxsa.org/newsflash/downloads/sabrang_sacw.pdf

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1925/stories/20021220005502700.htm

http://www.hindu.com/fline/fl1925/stories/20021220005302800.htm

He who wears the shoes knows where it pinches.

Regards,

Marshall


[Goanet] Obsession with other people's religion

2009-03-25 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Marlon Menezes:
It is interesting to note that  during the Marshall-Santosh dialogue, Nasci
launched a despicable vituperative on hinduism, Marshall chose not to
repudiate himself from Nasci's outrageous comments. This was a clear signal
to me, that Marshall is either communal by nature, or so desperate for
support, that he would sell his soul to the devil. Either way, I believe
Marshall, like Nasci to be on very shaky ethical grounds.

Response:
Nice try Marlon. Better luck next time:-)

Regards,

Marshall


[Goanet] Nasci's western non-vegetarian food for thought

2009-03-25 Thread Santosh Helekar

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Nascy Caldeira  wrote:
>  
> It is 'not for man to decide who should live and who should
> not'???
> Then why 'medicate at all';  why medicine and surgeons,
> nurses et al??
>  
> What will Santosh do for a living? Mario G will not have
> survived up to now! All this warring between Mario, and Santosh and >Marlon 
> and Mervyn, in their own mad way, would have been lost to
> Goanet, and I would have nothing stupid to counter!
> 

Nasci,

Can you explain your logic behind your above statement? 

How would Mario, Marlon, Mervyn and myself have been lost to Goanet, and you 
would have been found in this forum?

Your answers would give us some good non-vegetarian food for thought, not 
prepared and consumed the lowly primitive Indian way.

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Nascy Caldeira  wrote:
>
>By all means, do allow contraceptives but strictly disallow and prevent 
>>'abortion' of known healthy babies. Food for Thought?
> 





[Goanet] Stranded Mid-Aviv

2009-03-25 Thread Marshall Mendonza
For goan youth who are crazy about going abroad, here is an eye opening
story of Indians duped and stranded in Israel.We would be doing the youth a
favour if this article is disseminated widely in Goa. Here are some
extracts:

Extracts:
"Standing in the waiting room is Goa's Victor D'Souza, who paid $8,000 to
become another victim in the flying visa scam. There was no job of caregiver
that was guaranteed to him. But he was lucky to find another job—and
qualified for another visa. But after working for a short while, D'Souza's
employer refused to grant him a visa, refused to pay the wages owed to him,
and subsequently fired him. "We come to Israel to make our life," he says,
"but we come here and spoil our life."

"Among them is Santiago Luis, from a village in Goa."You won't find the
people with the big problems here," he says. "They're all hiding." Luis is
happy with his salary of $700 a month, which is typical for a caregiver.
"I'm very lucky," he says, "but everyone who comes to Israel has problems."

Luis has had his share. Three-and-a-half years ago, he had paid an Indian
employment agency $6,500 to arrange for a work visa in Israel. Like so many
others, he arrived only to find there was no job. And because he didn't have
work, he lost his visa. Luis was an early victim of a scam that's now
infamously known as 'flying visa'.
http://www.outlookindia.com/fullprint.asp?choice=2&fodname=20090323&fname=Illegal+workers+Israel+%28F%29&sid=1


[Goanet] Kamat lands in trouble as SC stays ordinance

2009-03-25 Thread Marshall Mendonza
In what must come as a shot in the arms of those fighting against illegal
constructions, the SC has stayed the Ordinance issued by the Goa Govt. The
struggle of the people has not gone in vain. Keep it up!!!

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/Kamat-lands-in-trouble-as-SC-stays-ordinance/articleshow/4312049.cms

Regards,

Marshall


Re: [Goanet] American (USA) 'socialism'...

2009-03-25 Thread goacom

Patrice,

Your friend Ren's comments regarding taxes and government in the US are 
actually dead on. Perhaps he should have translated it in Dutch for you. 

Yes, our total taxes (federal income, state income, medicare, unemployment 
insurance, property taxes, sales taxes, capital gains taxes) easily all add up 
to 40-60% of one's gross income. And, I'm not including things like social 
security - something we pay for, but which is expected to be bankrupt but the 
time I retire. In the US we do get pretty crappy govt. services for the amount 
of money we pay. Perhaps some of this is because the US spends some of its 
wealth ensuring that you not be forced to speak in German or Russian :-)

Regarding welfare, you seem to have a vision of a socialized utopia like they 
do in parts of europe, where they even provide needles for drug addicts. But 
coming from India, I know what real poverty and suffering is. In a land of 
opportunities like the US, the poverty is of the mind, not the body and I 
believe the welfare state only serves to exacerbate this problem of unwarranted 
dependency. Perhaps we should send these people to Holland. We can ship your 
new socialist friend Mario along with them too :-)

Your comrade,

Marlon 



--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Patrice Riemens  wrote:


From: Patrice Riemens 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] American (USA) 'socialism'...
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 1:29 AM


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What I Like about Goanet is than you can read the most bizarre lunatic 
rightist fringe stuff I know exists, but I would never come across 
otherwise. I send Mrlon (or Marion's) outlandish nonsense about 
'socialist' USA with its 'socialist' medicine (Medicare) and its 
outrageous taxation (40-60%, c'mon gimme a break! The US has one of 
the LOWEST I.T. of the 'developed' countries, esp for the super-rich! 
More like 20% -). I also very much like the idea to do away with 
welfare altogether - why not with the welfare recipients too, while we 
are at it? useles bummers,good for the Gharib Hatao treatment of 
Sanjay Gandhi, huh?  Anyway I send the stuff to a Dutch list 
(Kredietkrisis info) and we had a good laugh! My friend Rens from 
Beijing/ Jeddah had also something to say,which I'll fwd separately

Cheers, patrizio & Dnooos! 



[Goanet] Good coverage for protests concerning Lead India winner's joining BJP

2009-03-25 Thread Samir Kelekar

All:
I was successful in getting good coverage in today's Bangalore edition
of DNA newspaper concerning my protests regarding Mishra, TOI Lead India
winner,  joining BJP.

See the same article from DNA reproduced here in Silicon India.
http://www.siliconindia.com/shownews/IITian_joins_BJP_flooded_with_emails_from_alumni-nid-54189.html

Bottomline, I feel we can  also make the mining issue a nationwide issue,
provided we have some good quantitative data. I am ordering Claude's book.

regards,
Samir



  


[Goanet] The Play School Circus

2009-03-25 Thread Ashley Delaney

Nisha’s Play  School announces



“ The Play School Circus “

Date: Friday 3rd

Time: 6 p.m.- 7p.m.

Venue: Kala Academy



In aid of Shiksha Niketan School

 This circus is entirely performed by children from the play school.

regards
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Re: [Goanet] The financial crisis explained in simple terms.

2009-03-25 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Hi Mervyn,
 
This is the first 'no nonsense' and explanatory post from you on goanet; 
compared to all the abstract nonsense U have posted, so far, on goanet and to 
me privately. U are surely improving for the better! That is a good thing. 

I knew U always had the potential!
I look forward to reading some more 'no nonsense' from you. 
 
Cheers, and regards!
Nascy Caldeira
 
--- On Wed, 25/3/09, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

Heidi is the proprietor of a bar in Berlin . In order to increase sales, she 
decides to allow her loyal customers - most of whom are unemployed alcoholics - 
to drink now but pay later. She keeps track of the drinks consumed on a ledger 
(thereby granting the customers loans).
-
One day, although the prices are still climbing, a risk manager of the bank 
(subsequently of course fired for his negativity) decides that slowly the time 
has come to demand payment of the debts incurred by the drinkers at Heidi's bar.

The suppliers of Heidi's bar, having granted her generous payment due dates and 
having invested in the securities are faced with a new situation. Her wine 
supplier claims bankruptcy, her beer supplier is taken over by a competitor. 
The bank is saved by the Government following dramatic round-the-clock 
consultations by leaders from the governing political parties. The funds 
required for this purpose are obtained by a tax levied against the non-drinkers.


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Re: [Goanet] American (USA) 'socialism'...

2009-03-25 Thread Mario Goveia

Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:29:15 +0100
From: Patrice Riemens 

What I Like about Goanet is than you can read the most bizarre lunatic 
rightist fringe stuff I know exists, but I would never come across 
otherwise. I send Mrlon (or Marion's) outlandish nonsense ...

Mario responds:

Finally, someone with some good old Dutch common sense who has picked up on the 
"bizarre lunatic" stuff written by the ultra libertarian-anarchist voice on 
Goanet and magnified by his Canadian crony and his whimsical notions about the 
US.

Patrice, it's M-A-R-L-O-N who is our resident libertarian-anarchist.  He is so 
right wing that he is in danger of falling off the planet:-))

He is NOT to be confused with M-A-R-I-O, who is a defender of the US system 
OVERALL, while recognizing all its faults, and the only voice on Goanet of 
reason, truth and peace, who keeps a sharp eye on the bizarre and the lunatics 
that lurk in the shadows of Goanet:-))

I'm glad you and your friends in the Netherlands had a good laugh, as many of 
us on Goanet did as well:-))

Because of its towering achievements in a short period in history, not too many 
people realize that the US, at 233 years of age, is still a work in progress, 
and things are not as good right now as in the past and will be again in the 
future.

The good news is that in a recent poll 86% of Americans blamed the government 
for the mess, which is a good sign, which will serve to control our new 
President and his teleprompter who wants MORE government intervention in the 
economy.

However, even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day:-)).

Total income taxes in the US, when you factor in Federal, state and local 
income taxes, can be in the 50% range in some states, especially for high 
income income earners.  And our new President and his teleprompter are vowing 
to make Federal income taxes even higher.

Yes, the US is a relatively rich country, but for anyone who thinks the "rich" 
in the US don't pay more than their fair share of federal income taxes, please 
see: http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html

Here is a summary:[figures rounded off]:

The top 1% of income earners earn 22% of total income and pay 40% of total 
federal income taxes.

The top 5% of income earners earn 37% of total income and pay 60% of total 
federal income taxes.

The top 10% of income earners earn 47% of total income and pay 71% of total 
federal income taxes.

The top 25% of income earners earn 68% of total income and pay 86% of total 
federal income taxes

The top 50% of income earners earn 87% of total income and pay 97% of total 
federal income taxes.

The bottom 50% of income earners earn 13% of total income and pay 3% of total 
federal income taxes.

Actually, the bottom 40% pay no federal income taxes at all.  Many of these may 
be high school and college students for whom this is supplementary income in 
starter jobs.  These are not to be confused with those with no income at all.

All poor Americans have access to a range of government and private assistance, 
contrary to popular myth.

Make of this what you wish, but these are just the facts.










[Goanet] The Flying Visa Scam Goans duped in Israel

2009-03-25 Thread pascal pinto


 Dear All,

 

The recent Outlook Mar 23 2009 has an interesting article on the plight of 
Indians and specifically of Goans caught in a flying Visa scam in Israel of all 
places.

 

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The Flying Visa scam 


Israel's employment agencies obtain permits to hire foreign workers 

The permit allows them to secure employment and a work visa for a foreigner 

The Israel agency's partner in India takes huge sums of money from those 
wishing to work in Israel 

But once the Indian worker reaches Israel, he finds his employment, and 
therefore his visa, cancelled 

The guilty employment agency uses the permit to take out a visa for yet another 
Indian 

Those left stranded go into hiding, hoping to evade deportation. They work 
illegally to pay the loans they took to finance their journey to Israel.
***
The Binding Arrangement 

Those working legally are also ripe for exploitation. Their work visa is valid 
as long as they have the job. 

Employers consequently compel, say a caregiver, to also double up as cooks, 
gardeners etc 

Wages are often far lower than promised originally 

NGOs suspect cases of sexual abuse. These are not reported because the victim 
fears his visa could be cancelled. 

Should the employer die, the visa stands cancelled.
***Indians In Israel 

The interior ministry says there are about 18,000 Indians in Israel 

Only 5,100 of them have a legal status. The rest are working illegally. 

Actual number is said to be much higher. Many who're pushed across the 
Egypt-Israel border don't figure in official estimates. 

People pay $8,000 to $10,000 for working in Israel 

Most Indians workers are employed as caregivers. The salary offered is $700 a 
month.
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[Goanet] Church in Kerala to fight election ( Comments:So whats stopping Church in Goa? to get rid of Cong & BJP)

2009-03-25 Thread mario rodrigues




Church in Kerala to fight election

NDTV Correspondent







 








Unhappy with both UDF and LDF in the state, the Church in Kerala has decided to 
contest this year's Lok Sabha election.

The Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church has decided to field Independent 
candidates in four constituencies for the elections.

This is the first time that the Church, which has pockets of influence in some 
of the constituencies, would be fielding its candidates.

The decision was taken as the church felt the successive LDF and UDF 
governments failed to consider the problems of the church so far. 

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Re: [Goanet] America - A Socialist Economy

2009-03-25 Thread Mario Goveia

Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:25:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mervyn Lobo 

I would not describe the United Socialist States of America as having a
socialist economy.  I would describe it as having a very PECULIAR socialist
economy.

Mario responds:

To describe something it helps to know something about it.  Does any serious 
adult who is halfway lucid and well read believe that the USA has a socialist 
economy?

As usual, Mervyn is wrong.  When he talks about a PECULIAR socialist economy it 
sounds more like Canada, which is substantially left of center, depends on the 
US for much of its trade, for its national security if Russia tries to grab any 
more territory in the Arctic, as well as for any serious medical treatment for 
those who don't want to die while on waiting lists for their "free" health care 
system, which, probably works great for coughs and colds and headaches and free 
condoms and generic drugs whose patents have expired.

http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/10/15/waittimes-fraser.html

Mervyn wrote:

Here is the reason why.
When a public company makes profits, the profits are distributed only to the 
risk takers or the wealthy.
When these same public companies make staggering losses, management gets a
bonus and then the losses are distributed to all those who did not take any
risks, but who are now the bearers/sharers of the losses.

Mario responds:

Unfortunately, Mervyn is wrong again, either confused by something he has read 
in a left wing blog without any context or perspective, or proving once again 
how little he knows about the US economy.  This is not how it works in most US 
corporations. 

Mervyn wrote:

Rest assured that every aspect of socialized medicine is going to be expanded.

Mario responds:

That would be terrible news for Canadians, because they will have nowhere else 
to go to get critical treatment in a timely manner:-))

http://canadaonline.about.com/od/healthcarewaittimes/Wait_Times_for_Health_Care_in_Canada.htm

Mervyn wrote:

The above statement only works when you provide the numbers. For example, the 
numbers that compares the dynamics of the economy of China v/s that of the 
USSA. With out the numbers, your contention is pure sentiment.

Mario observes:

I looked in vain for Mervyn's numbers.  He hasn't provided any numbers either, 
so his contention is pure wishful thinking too, and if it is on par with the 
rest of his information about the US, wrong as well:-))

There is a reason why millions risk their lives to get into the US, patiently 
waiting years to get in legally, or sneaking across the borders illegally.  
There is a reason why the US is the world's currency of choice, regardless of 
the recent rumblings, since there is no rational alternative to the size and 
the safety of holding US dollars without hurting the very countries who hold 
the most dollars. The Chinese economy would collapse without their exports to 
the US.

There is a reason why the US holds the most patents and develops the most Nobel 
Prize winners and accounts for many of the major inventions, and attracts the 
best academic minds, regardless of where the individuals responsible were born, 
but unable to be their best where they come from.

For anyone to even suggest that this is because the US economy is not dynamic 
is pretty ludicrous.

Mervyn wrote:

Lastly, I love this Obama? 

Mario responds:

I'm glad someone still loves him and his teleprompter because his job approval 
is slipping in the serious polls as illustrated below:-))

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2213144/posts












Re: [Goanet] Vatican Stirs Up Another Controversy (Fr. Desmond de Sousa CSsR, SAR NEWS)

2009-03-25 Thread Nascy Caldeira
I would endorse all of what is said in this article by Fr. Desmond de Souza. 
That is the principle of life and justice.
 
However I am not comfortable with the fact that prevention of conception, as 
with use of condoms, is such a bad thing.
 
 After all one is preventing conception of a child that is or may be 'unwanted, 
unloved, uncared for, after being born; and also by inheriting an uncurable 
disease, is actually helping spread of the same instead or arresting the 
epidemic.
 
It is 'not for man to decide who should live and who should not'???
Then why 'medicate at all';  why medicine and surgeons, nurses et al??
 
What will Santosh do for a living? Mario G will not have survived up to now!
All this warring between Mario, and Santosh and Marlon and Mervyn, in their own 
mad way, would have been lost to Goanet, and I would have nothing stupid to 
counter!
 
We will have many sick and mad persons roaming the planet. As it is there are 
enough unmanageable numbers of sick persons in as many ways!
 
By all means, do allow contraceptives but strictly disallow and prevent 
'abortion' of known healthy babies. Food for Thought?
 
Cheers!
Nascy Caldeira

--- On Wed, 25/3/09, neil rangel  wrote:


From:Dr. Neil de Jesus Rangel

The Roman Catholic Church cannot and will never sanction the use of condoms for 
the prevention of AIDS or any other sexually transmitted disease. The use of a 
condom is inherently evil and under no circumstances will the Catholic Church 
ever sanction the use of evil so that some good may come out of it. That evil 
not be used to 
justify any good that may ensue, is a divine injunction and cannot be changed 
by the Catholic Church. 
 
It  is not humans who bring life into the world but the Author of Life. 
It is not for humans to decide who merits to live and who does not. In recent 
times there has been a progressively increasing assault on the most vulnerable: 
the unborn and the the 
sick and what any perceive as undesirables. This has to be stopped. All human 
life 
is sacred and has to be protected at all times.There is place for everyone in 
this 
world.

The Catholic Church worldwide continues to be the single largest provider of 
health 
care services for those afflicted with AIDS.While fully aware of the suffering 
of 
those with AIDS and of the exploited and helpless.

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[Goanet] DIGAMBAR WILL DO ANYTHING TO SAVE HIS CHAIR

2009-03-25 Thread Aires Rodrigues
Digambar Kamat will go down in the history books as one of Goa's weakest and
spineless Chief Ministers. From the day he assumed office his sole priority
has been to safeguard his chair at all costs.

The framers of our constitution had envisaged one set of laws for all
regardless of caste, creed, and financial or political strengths.

Unfortunately in Goa today, if you have the financial clout, you can
manipulate things and gamble your way around depending on your muscle power
and political patronage

In reality with Digambar Kamat as Chief Minister we have one set of laws for
the rich and powerful and another for the weak and vulnerable.

Aires Rodrigues
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Re: [Goanet] Vatican Stirs Up Another Controversy

2009-03-25 Thread Mario Goveia

Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:20:48 -0400
From: "neil rangel" 

The Roman Catholic Church cannot and will never sanction the use of condoms for 
the prevention of AIDS or any other sexually transmitted disease. The use of a 
condom is inherently evil and under no circumstances will the Catholic Church 
ever sanction the use of evil so that some good may come out of it.

Mario obsrves:

It makes no logical sense to call condoms "inherently" evil.  What may be 
inherently evil are any deliberately overblown claims of the efficacy of 
condoms, without all the necessary caveats about proper material and proper 
application, which may lull the ignorant or the desperate or the careless into 
a false sense of security.

The Pope was speaking as a moral leader, not a politician or advocate or health 
care specialist, but he was also clinically correct to say that only abstinence 
or a monogamous sexual relationship with an uninfected partner can honestly be 
described as "safe".

All one can honestly say about condoms is that, properly used, LATEX condoms 
are far safer than not using any protection at all.

I once asked a gynaecologist if she would have sex with a man whom she knew had 
HIV/AIDS if he agreed to wear a condom.

"Of course not", she said, "But it helps those who cannot control themselves or 
have no choice."  This told me all I needed to know.

No one wants to admit in this age of political correctness and lowered moral 
standards that HIV/AIDS "for the most part" is not a disease which comes 
looking for unsuspecting victims like the old air borne and water borne 
pandemics in the past used to do.

Except in the very sad cases of people getting infected by sex partners they 
did not suspect of carrying the disease and the even sadder cases of children 
being born with the disease, many victims work pretty hard at getting the 
disease, or believe that condoms will always keep them "safe".




[Goanet] Cloudlets... and Goanet

2009-03-25 Thread Frederick "FN" Noronha
Google search has created "cloudlets" for each term you search up.
Here are some for Goanet:

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[Goanet] DEBATE: Taking caste seriously: being anti-brahmin is not enough

2009-03-25 Thread Goanet Reader
Taking caste seriously: being anti-brahmin is not enough

Jason Keith Fernandes
jason.k.fernan...@gmail.com

It is something of an article of faith in some circles to
place the ills for much that is happening in Goa at the feet
of the Saraswats. These circles indicate that the Saraswats
have always been a dominant force in Goan society and
especially so after Liberation. They control the mining
industry, through this they control educational institutions;
until very recently almost all of the newspapers in Goa, with
the development of technology they also control the local
audio-visual media.

Further it is pointed out, that from A-Z, all government
departments are headed by Saraswats who ensure that on
retirement, their position is taken over by another Saraswat.

It is through this presence in all key posts and institutions
these activists argue, that the Saraswat is able to control
the fate and politics of Goa, manipulating every situation to
come out the winner. What we should know, these circles
argue, is that there is no such thing as a Congress agenda or
a BJP agenda in this State; there is only a Saraswat agenda,
and they will sleep with whoever promises to deliver it.

         The above argument may be true; especially if the
         first half of these arguments can be established.
         Control over institutions and resources presents
         groups with not just economic capital, but social
         and cultural resources that allow for dominance in
         society.

One can be recognized as dominant not purely through physical
domination and economic might, but by also being recognized
as providing 'high culture'. And this is where I would like
to introduce a spoke into this pleasant idea that we can
blame the Saraswats for every ill in Goa.

Dominance in a society is not possibly entirely through
physical domination, especially by a group that forms a small
percentage of the total population. Such domination is
possible only through the active participation of other
groups in this domination.

The emphasis on Brahmins as the object of attack for creating
a caste-violence free society obfuscates issues rather than
contributes to addressing the matter. Being anti-brahmin is
not enough. On the contrary, it is not what is required in
the first place.

What is required is a hostility to the entire edifice of
Brahmanism that is propped up by brahmanised groups that are
not always Brahmin. For example, the Chardo landlord who
hates the Brahmin is not being anti-caste, but merely
fighting a caste battle for dominance. When he wins this
battle, it does not translate into any form of liberation for
the dalit below him.

A friend succinctly captured the sentiment when he remarked
"For the Chardo, being anti-brahmin, is being anti-caste."

In early 20th century Maharashtra, moving toward kshatriya
status was seen as one route toward social mobility and
challenging caste violence. Gail Omvedt, a scholar who has
worked considerably on caste issues, identifies Shahu Maharaj
of Kolhapur as the harbinger of this process.

While being staunchly against untouchability and instituting
policies of positive affirmation (reservation), he did much
to challenge caste violence. However "the desire to be
considered a kshatriya meant accepting many brahmanic norms;
it meant accepting sanskritic rituals, and it gave sanction
to all the similar efforts going on throughout the
Marathi-speaking areas whereby 'Maratha' and those of similar
caste were encouraged to consider themselves kshatriyas, use
the Gayatri mantra, use vedokta rituals and so forth."

         The result of this move was to weaken the critique
         of Brahmanism and shift the focus of the battle
         toward the brahmans. It was this strategic mistake
         that caused Dr. Ambedkar to clarify to young
         Marathas that "you are against brahmans but not
         brahmanism; we are against brahmanism". Indeed,
         from the plethora of Maratha samaj in Goa we can
         see that this trend has had some influence in our
         State among the 'bahujan' and dalit groups here.

An anti-brahmanical ideology twines the two factors of class
and caste to move away from the casteist strategy of blindly
identifying a single or couple of caste groups as the enemy.

Employing such an ideology we realise that among the Goan
Catholic the all-encompassing terms of bamon and chardo don't
capture sociological reality. They are merely umbrellas that
club dominant bamons and chardos with the dalit bamons and
chardos in the same group.

By erasing the difference between the so-called 'first class'
and 'second-class' bamon and chardo we erase also the clarity
that the interests of these two groups are not the same.

         The 'first-class' group has more in common with
         each other and with the Saraswats and the Dessais,
         than with their 'second-class' compatriots.
         However, by placing them in one group, we create
       

[Goanet] VIPs splurge on 5-star stays

2009-03-25 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
VIPs splurge on 5-star stays 
25 Mar 2009, 0432 hrs IST, TNN

PANAJI: As per data, Goan politicians and VIPs who visited Delhi in the
last three years, resided at the Ashoka a 5-star hotel in the country's
capital almost 63% of the time. In fact, from a total of 81 days that
they spent in Delhi's 5-star hotels, 51 days were spent at the Ashoka. 

Details of 5-star accommodation in Delhi for Goan VIPs were given in the
assembly on Monday in reply to an unstarred question by Mapusa BJP MLA
Francis D'Souza. Rooms for the VIPs had been booked by the Goa Sadan. 

Commissioner for NRI affairs Eduardo Faleiro, tops the list of such
VIPs. Faleiro spent a total of 20 days in 5-star comfort in Delhi in the
last three years of which 16 days were at the Ashoka and a single stay
of four days at Le Meridien. Faleiro's single stay of six days at the
Ashoka from January 21 to January 26, 2008, is also the longest by any
Goan VIP. Faleiro's total bill for the 20 days came up to Rs 2.99 lakh. 

Chief minister Digambar Kamat was the first minister to stay in a Delhi
5-star hotel in June 2006. Kamat stayed one day at the Taj at a cost of
Rs 11,875. He then spent another eight days in 5-star comfort at a cost
of Rs 1.82 lakh. 

Deputy chairman of the planning board Wilfred de Souza, logged a total
of six single days at the Ashoka which cost Rs 76,088. Interestingly,
while a day at the Ashoka on March 18, 2008 cost Rs 10,175, another
day's stay at the same hotel on October 23, 2008 cost Rs 20,318. 

PWD minister Churchill Alemao, and former finance minister Dayanand
Narvekar also logged six days each. While Alemao's stay cost Rs 97,687,
Narvekar's cost Rs 92,209. Power minister Aleixo Sequeira stayed three
days at a total cost of Rs 67,462. 

Urban development minister Joaquim Alemao stayed four days in Delhi in a
variety of hotels at a total cost of Rs 57,442. He has stayed at the
Ashoka, the Claridges and has also sampled the Radisson in the country's
capital.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/VIPs-splurge-on-5-star-stays/arti
cleshow/4311716.cms

~(^^)~

Avelino


[Goanet] Cidade de Goa - Ordinance

2009-03-25 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Cidade de Goa - Ordinance 

 

The Supreme Court's judgement is based on a faulty, archaic legislation that has
rightly been amended, claims Vikram Varma in the Herald of March 24. what is
indeed shocking to note is that the canaries tamed and maintained by the Timblos
are not just singing their tunes but actually  justifying the murder of a
Supreme Court ruling by our self-centered and corrupt politicians.  

 

If the Timblos knew that the old legislation was archaic, why did they not put
up their case to rectify this anomaly before the structure was built. Wouldn't
it have been easier then? The point is that they knew what they were doing was
illegal and went right ahead and did it. How can that be justified? 

 

Both Vikram Varma and Sanjoy Gupta have more than enough pounds of Goan flesh on
their table, the cuisine of mining, prepared and garnished by the Timblos.  It's
certainly not "some intelligentsia" as Varma writes, who seek a pound of flesh.
The Goans are clamouring for justice, saying that the rulings of supreme seat of
justice in this country have to be adhered to, and, moreover, that the
tomfoolery of our two-bit politicians to make a mockery of the Supreme Court
should be dealt with severely. 

 

All amendments to the Constitution should be done in conjunction with the will
of the people and not to create a "vacuum" in the system that our corrupt
politicians and money bags can do the rock-n-roll in anytime they want to. 

 

The Supreme Court Judgment and the subsequent ordinance of the Government of Goa
is a battle between the highest judiciary of the country and a pathetic State
Government and its petty functionaries attempting to make an ass of our judicial
system for the sole purpose of protecting the illegalities of generous
contributors to their corrupt cause. This we know to be true most certainly do
not need Vikram's optically altered version of the same. 

 

Portraying a consonance between the ordinance and the welfare of the 600
families (a highly exaggerated figure!) is abysmal logic. The ordinance is a
result of a greed to safeguard and protect the flow of mistruths. If the
Government took such a hasty decision for the sole purpose of protecting this
actually small work force, then why did the government not take any action to
protect the over 8000 families affected by the CRZ ? Why has the government not
done anything  for the thousands of people affected by mining and mega housing?
Or is the government only for our mining and hospitality barons? 

 

The bread and butter on the Timblos' table will not be affected by the
demolition of a part of their hotel because they have plenty of it stacked up
through illegal mining. They have shown enough generosity to our politicians to
further stock their supplies of bread and butter. The so called '600 families'
are just pawns on their chess board.  

 

Our activists have been beaten up, ridiculed, aggrieved and falsely implicated
by the so called tenacious lady, full of virtues and her beloved, who I am sure
isn't lagging behind in finesse and culture too. Her love for humanity pours out
in such an abundance that it is difficult to curtail the flow even in all the
pits of their mines. Doesn't it sound odd that Vikram Varma recognizes sainthood
and proclaims her a deity? This, for someone whom he has not even met in person,
while all the rest of Goa sees red in anger! 

 

The ordinance only proves that our politicians promote exclusivist agendas to
reinforce the power of entrenched elites, the writ of lords and masters over the
common people. It is sad that even in these days of global recession there are
slimy eels like Vikram Varma handed out freebies to distort the truth.

 

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] Kala Academy, programmes Mar 28-Apr 3, 2009

2009-03-25 Thread Frederick "FN" Noronha
March 28, 2009: 3.30 to 7.30 pm
Goa Institute of Management, Convocation

March 28, 2009: 6 to 10 pm
Swastik musical programme, ticketed

March 28-29, 2009: 10 am to 7.30 pm
Archa R. Kamat painting exhibition

March 28, 2009 to April 1, 2009: 10 am to 7.30 pm
Directorate of Arts and Culture, book exhibition

March 29, 2009: 10 am to 2 pm
Pilar Music School, Konkani Drama "Amche Xim Rau Jezu" with passes.

March 29, 2009: 3.30 to 7.30 pm
Crown Club Sta Cruz, tiatr. Ticketed.

March 30-Apr 1, 2009: 10 am to 7.30 pm
Directorate of Art & Culture, workshop at the Black Box

March 31, 2009: 6.30 pm
Kala Academy PDS: Marathi Drama "Rahile Ghar Door Maze"

March 31, 2009: 4 pm to 6 pm
KA-FIM classroom production at rehearsal hall

April 2, 2009: 7.30 to 11.30 pm
Tiatr "Mai Dhukhi Sasumai Sukhi", ticketed.

April 3, 2009: 3.30 to 6 pm
Nisha's Play School concert, entrance free

MORE DETAILS, hall booking info, etc: kalaacademy...@yahoo.co.in
NOTE: Timings mention above are the booking timings for the programme.
Actual open-to-the-public timings might differ. Kindly verify before
attending the same.
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2009-03-25 Thread Mario DCosta
Congratulations to Mr. Alexio Reginaldo Lourenco, Hon. MLA Curtorim, from all 
the Dhirio lovers of Curtorim working in Qatar - Mario F. D' Costa & all his 
friends from Curtorim. Keep up the good work.



Dhirios will now be legal! HERALD REPORTER

Bill passed in House, guidelines to be issued

PANJIM, MARCH 24  The Goa legislative assembly on Tuesday night, unanimously 
passed a bill  legalizing dhirio or bullfighting in Goa though with provision 
for proper guidelines to prevent cruelty to the animals. The house passed the 
private member’s bill moved by Congress legislator from Curtorim, Reginaldo 
Lourenco, which now gives legislative sanction to the traditional sport of 
bullfighting, which was banned following a directive from the Panjim bench of 
the Bombay High Court about a decade ago. 

The legislative sanction however, comes with a rider. “Proper guidelines will 
have to be issued form time to time, to ensure that cruelty to the animals is 
kept in check,” Lourenco said, referring to the existing tradition of 
bullfighting in certain parts of Tamil Nadu. Intervening in the discussion, 
Speaker Pratapsing Rane wanted to know whether bullfighting would cause harm to 
animals. Reginaldo as well as leader of opposition Manohar Parrikar said that 
there would be proper regulation  to ensure safety of animals involved in the 
sport. 

Reginaldo, contended that he had moved the bill as after some study he had come 
to know that the matter falls in the Concurrent List. Proper guidelines would 
have to be framed to check cruelty to animals involved in the sport. He had 
moved the bill in the last assembly session. In the bill, he had said that 
dhirio has been a traditional sport in Goa for many centuries and that it 
needed to be protected. Stating that authorities have been very strict in 
restricting the sport on the pretect of implementing the Act, he said this had 
led to arrest of several promoters and even spectators. Dhirios need to be 
protected with the mandate that the sport would be organised within the 
framework of guidelines of the state government.

Reginaldo received support from all quarters in the house. Public Works 
Department Minister Churchill Alemao, ridiculed the phrase “cruelty to 
animals.” He said when human beings work as rickshaw pullers, is it not 
cruelty? Going a step further, he said “milking a cow is also cruelty”, which 
lead to laughter in the house.

Aldona MLA Dayanand Narvekar congratulated Reginaldo for having done a lot of 
study before moving the bill. However, Home Minister Ravi Naik’s suggestion to 
refer the bill to the Select Committee evoked strong response from members who 
recommended immediate passing of the bill.Tourism Mickky Pacheco, Urban 
Development Joaquim Alemao,  Victoria Fernandes,  Power Mnister, Alexio 
Sequeira, and others demanded that the bill should be passed today itself. With 
chief minister giving the nod, the bill was passed by voice vote.Former chief 
minister and North Goa Member of Parliament Francisco Sardinha had also 
introduced a bill in the Lok Sabha in February this year, seeking to legalise 
bullfighting in Goa, which he claimed could help to promote tourism in the 
State. 







[Goanet] American (USA) 'socialism' (2) (Rens Metaal)

2009-03-25 Thread Patrice Riemens
- Forwarded message from Laurentius Metaal -

Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:33:40 +0300
From: Laurentius Metaal 


Bah, Bah en Bah,

This is some sloppy writing. First of all there is nothing wrong with a
bit of socialism but in the US context that is not the case. Socialism
US style has very often to do with lobbyists and is thus not socialist
at all. With the exception of socialized medicine, in my humble opinion
a basic human right, which should finally be taken serious there is at
present only something at work which is called a desperate attempt to
nationalize some parts of the system since it has been proven that the
so called free market of lobbyists does not work and the tax dollars at
least have not resulted in government bodies that do what they are
supposed to do: regulate. However if the people in Washington had balls
they would truly nationalize the financial system instead of dumping
tons of good future tax income at bad assets and then giving it away to
the private sector to have others profit from it.

On taxes: what do you get for your US taxes compared to say any other
nation with high taxes? In the US version you will get a lot back for
your tax dollars. Dilapidated infrastructure for example, deplorable
benefits, Sky high educational fees, a wasteful government. In other
countries your tax dollars (or whatever currency) actually provide
society with a working infrastructure, a decent, although there is
always room for improvement educational, system, a military that is
focussed on securing the nations territory only, additional pensions for
the elderly, a decent unemployment benefits system

Both tax systems are good at handing out useless subsidies to the
agricultural sector. In France they get these subsidies by dumping
manure in the streets, in the US by sending human manure in the form of
lobbyists to Washington. I might say that the French modus operandi is
somewhat more cost efficient for the farmers.

The US tax system is a mess. If you buy a nice home you pay your ass off
in taxes just for the pleasure of having a home. Your local taxes make
things very basty so even with 20 to 30% national income tax you are
royally screwed in the Federal system. In China you pay a top tier of
40% income tax, that's it. Nothing more.

Cheerio,

Rens




Patrice Riemens wrote:

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> From: goanet-requ...@lists.goanet.org
> Subject: Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 303
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:30:57 -0700
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>1. Re: America - A Socialist Economy (marlon menezes)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:29:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: marlon menezes 
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] America - A Socialist Economy
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
>
>
>
> The US has been socialized for quite a while from many aspects.
>
> Lets start with agriculture, where huge subsidies are given to the 
> agro businesses. Food products and fuels such as cheap ethanol from 
> Brazil cant be imported because the agri lobby wants subsidies to 
> continue for its expensive locally grown corn for ethanol. This 
> boondoggle was initiated by Bush. On a related front, Mahindra which 
> was supposed to import its trucks targeted for the agri business, is 
> being forced to review its plans thanks to a 25% import duty on its 
> trucks. Free trade?? Hmm.
>
> Another dubious program from the Bush era is the largest expansion of 
> socialized medicine ala its expansion of medicaid prescriptions for 
> the elderly.
>
> Taxes in America are ridiculously high - specially when compared to 
> countries like China and India. It may be quite a shock to know that 
> when all the taxes are added, an individual is taxed between 40-60% of 
> his income. The differences between the the US parties is minuscule 
> and amounts to a few percentage points.
>
> Obviously the current administration is only adding to the fires 
> started by the incompetent (or asleep at the wheel) Bush 
> administration. The current downturn is a natural correction to the 
> excesses of the past and the American govt. and people must be brave 
> enough and take it on the chin. The current spending stimulus programs 
> are more akin to a drug addict promising this to be yet another last 
> hit, before he returns to sobriety sometime way in the future.
>
> The US must gradually return to its old, self reliant model - 
> eliminate social security, medicaid (Mario, send me your checks) and 
> welfare. It needs to become more American and less Canadian.  Its 
> military force (man power) needs to be reduced and in part be 
> substituted with cheaper foreign mercenary forces.  All restrictions 
> on foreign labor must be removed. If an American can be replaced with 
> an as qualified, but cheaper foreign worker, the employer should have 
> the right to do so, without the bogus securi

[Goanet] Goa parliamentary maps (delimitation)....

2009-03-25 Thread Frederick "FN" Noronha
North Goa Parliamentary Constitutuency (delimitation map)
1. Mandrem 2. Pernem (SC) 3. Bicholim 4. Tivim 5. Mapusa 6. Siolim 7.
Saligao 8. Calangute 9. Porvorim 10. Aldona 11. Panaji 12. Taleigao
13. Santa Cruz 14. Sant Andre 15. Cumbarjua 16. Maem 17. Sanquelim 18.
Poriem 19. Valpoi 20. Priol
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/3381188601/sizes/l/

South Goa Parliamentary Constitutuency (delimitation map)
21. Ponda 22. Shiroda 23. Madkai 24. Mormugao 25. Vasco da Gama 26.
Dabolim 27. Cortalim 28. Nuvem 29. Curtorim 30. Fatorda 31. Margao 32.
Benaulim 33. Navelim 34. Cuncolim 35. Velim 36. Quepem 37. Curchorem
38. Sanvordem 39. Sanguem 40. Canancona
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/3381187495/sizes/l/

E&OE
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[Goanet] Poetry Films : A unique cinematic genre At ICG Dona Paula on March 26 at 6.00pm

2009-03-25 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE

Press Note

Poetry Films : A unique cinematic genre

A audio visual screening cum lecture by Shri Jitendra Ram Prakash on the theme 
“Poetry Films : A unique cinematic genre” is organized on 26th March 2009, 6.00 
p.m. at International Centre Goa, Dona Paula.

Shri Jitendra Ramprakash is curator of  Sadho. Sadho is a voluntary 
organization that aims at taking great 'poetry to people' from all walks of 
life through the innovative use of arts, media and social action. Sadho had 
organized First Poetry Film festival in 2007 at Delhi wherein 83 film 23 
countries selected from 1500 entries were screened. Second Poetry Film Festival 
will also be held at Delhi in October/November 2009. For more details log in to 
www.sadho.com

International Centre Goa, Dona Pula and Taleigao Chess Academy Sports Club have 
jointly organized this program. This is a prelude to workshop on above topic 
later this year. This is an opportunity to local poet and film makers to 
interact with him.

Noted poet Shri Vishnu Surya Wagh will be Chief Guest and art film lover Shri 
Daulat Havaldar will preside over the function. Shri Shrikant Barve on behalf 
of organizers has stated that this program is free and is open to all. For more 
detail please contact (co-ordinator) mobile 9403175973, 2541143.

Secretary 
(Sanjay Barve)
Taleigao Chess Academy.

Jitendra Ramprakash 
is a voice-trainer & poet with the soul of a wanderer, and the founder of 
‘Sadho’, a voluntary organization that aims at taking great poetry to people 
from all walks of life. 
 
He has trained 21 TV channels of 7 networks in 9 languages in the areas of  TV 
anchoring, voice & speech, & reporting.

 He has also voiced commercials, channel IDs, documentaries, various AV 
productions and audio-books. But to him, the ‘speaking voice’ is an art form & 
not merely a commercial tool.

 Earlier, in what he terms as ‘another life’, he was a well known TV host & 
professional, known specially for his impromptu anchoring, handling of live 
programs, live translations & interviewing that reflected his understanding of 
various arts. 

He also made some films, including a 26-min single shot film. 

 He quit a successful television career to explore his other interests, central 
among which are ‘Rehearsal Room’ and Sadho. 

 His poems & translations have been published in various anthologies, literary 
magazines & newspapers.

 Besides poetry & voice, his other interests include the mountains, Hindustani 
vocal music, Indian languages & world cinema




Shrikant Vinayak Barve



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Re: [Goanet] American (USA) 'socialism'...

2009-03-25 Thread Patrice Riemens
What I Like about Goanet is than you can read the most bizarre lunatic 
rightist fringe stuff I know exists, but I would never come across 
otherwise. I send Mrlon (or Marion's) outlandish nonsense about 
'socialist' USA with its 'socialist' medicine (Medicare) and its 
outrageous taxation (40-60%, c'mon gimme a break! The US has one of 
the LOWEST I.T. of the 'developed' countries, esp for the super-rich! 
More like 20% -). I also very much like the idea to do away with 
welfare altogether - why not with the welfare recipients too, while we 
are at it? useles bummers,good for the Gharib Hatao treatment of 
Sanjay Gandhi, huh?  Anyway I send the stuff to a Dutch list 
(Kredietkrisis info) and we had a good laugh! My friend Rens from 
Beijing/ Jeddah had also something to say,which I'll fwd separately

Cheers, patrizio & Dnooos! 



> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:25:35 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mervyn Lobo 
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] America - A Socialist Economy
> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!"
>   

> 
> 
> Marlon,

> I would not describe the United Socialist States of America as 
having?a socialist economy.

> I would describe it as having a very PECULIAR socialist economy.
> 
> 
> Here is the reason why.

> When a public company makes profits, the profits are distributed 
only to the risk takers or the wealthy.

> When these same public companies make staggering losses, 
management?gets a bonus and then the losses are distributed to 
all?those who did not take any risks, but who are now the 
bearers/sharers of the losses.

> Abso-social-lutely amazing!
> 
> ?
> 
> marlon menezes wrote:
> 

> > Another dubious program from the Bush era is the largest expansion 
of socialized medicine ala its expansion of medicaid prescriptions for 
the elderly.

> > > Rest assured that every aspect of socialized medicine is going 
to be expanded. USSA manufacturers are?at a competitive 
disadvantage?verses companies in other?countries?that have?socialized 
medicine. The?motor vehicle firms will be the first to be relieved of 
their medical obligations.? After the medical expenses have been 
outsourced to the govt, and local manufacturers still cannot compete 
with international?firms,?the USSA govt will give loans to companies 
that?cannot sell their products. The final socialist?step will be when 
the govt converts those loans into shares to become the largest share 
holder in the companies that cannot sell their products.?Yep, the 
politicians are soon going to be appointing the directors and 
management of USSA firms.

> > > > > The US is still the most dynamic economy in the world, given 
that it is still the most free market economy.

> > The above statement only works when you provide the numbers. For 
example, the numbers that compares the dynamics of the economy of 
China v/s that of the USSA. With out the numbers, your contention is 
pure sentiment.

> > > Lastly, I love this Obama? (blessed be, his name) guy.?It seems 
that all the?TV news channels are carrying him live, twice a week. It 
is?almost like a mini-series where the country cannot seem to get 
enough of him.

> ?
> ?
> Mervyn1650Lobo


[Goanet] Roman Catholic Vs Hindu ...?

2009-03-25 Thread Mario Goveia

Mario wrote:

I don't know a single Goan who is a Muslim.

Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:57:47 +0900
From: Joao Barros-Pereira 

You say you don't know a single Goan who is a Muslim but there
were Muslims living in Goa even before the Liberation. Goa was also ruled by 
the Muslims.

Mario clarifies:

Joao,

I know there are Muslims among Goans.  I just don't know any. 






[Goanet] 6 Simple Strategies to Stay Happy - Dumb Little Man

2009-03-25 Thread Con Menezes

Information you can choose to use.

Con


http://www.dumblittleman.com/2007/12/6-simple-strategies-to-stay-happy.html


Re: [Goanet] What have Saligao Youngsters and Playground got to do with the Road - Mr. Bonnie??

2009-03-25 Thread cyril D'Souza
Dear Mr.Agnelo Fernandes,

Thank you for your encouraging words - during my stint in the army I used to
get ridiculous postings ( we called them punishment postings ) sometimes in
the North East , sometimes on the borders of East Bengal and even Indo- Pak
(including Siachen )- and I always carried some black and white pictures of
Goa in my suitcase which at nights I would just look at and dream of the day
I would go back home to my peaceful and beautiful Goa - and finally I
retired some years back and sadly I can say that things are worsening year
after year  - the filth and garbage ( smell of burning garbage and plastic
is everywhere , sometimes I have to keep my windows shut during the day  ) ,
unorganised planning of roads and infrastructure etc and ofcourse Calangute
is not the same - majority in the market area  either speak in Kannada,
Marathi  or are Bhayyas from the North and we dont have the basic
infrastructure to support this influx of migrants . As a result they even
urinate and defecate in open areas and Malaria cases are on the rise .Now
everytime anyone gets a fever they are advised to do blood tests.*This
was not the Goa I was planning to retire and live in - *

Despite my poor health I make it a point to attend all GramSabhas ( Joseph
Sequeira heaves a sigh when I dont )and highlight these issues .

*I wish to once again thank Mr.Ashley* for taking up this onerous task of
being the RP convenor and at the same time *opposing the road that is going
to destroy the hillsides of Saligao.*

*Col.Cyril P.D'Souza ( Retd.)*
Calangute


On 3/21/09, Agnelo Fernandes  wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:21:03 +0530, Ashley Delaney 
> wrote on the subject:
> Re: [Goanet] what have Saligao Youngsters and playground got to do with the
> road Mr. Bonnie (full text deleted)
>
>
> Hello Mr Cyril, Mr Bonnie, and my dear friend ASHLEY,
>
> I apologize to young Ashley for not having sent in the Congratulatory
> message on Thursday, 19 March, on the great efforts he is putting in as a
> Convenor for taking up and fighting the social evils in Saligao. It takes
> collossal commitment besides one's own work schedule and businesses. May
> the best be with him and a lot of courage too.
>
> I apologize to Col. Cyril for not having put down a word of appreciation
> for his efforts highlighting and fighting social evils in Calangute /
> Saligao, etc. May the best be with you too, Sir.
>
> I failed to understand the message in Bonnie's post. Playground and the
> by-pass road are two different issues and the issue in question here is the
> "bypass road".
>
> Bonnie, please try to understand the immediate need of paying our attention
> according to priorities. It is not right for us to just punch keys on our
> keyboards, pass judgements, issue instructions, accuse inactions, whereas
> we, who want others to do the dirty work, are far away from Amchem Goa,
> waiting at the slightest opportunity to bug and criticise our fellow Goans
> who take up evils right there in Goa. They know the ground realities, they
> know the time, effort, and commitment that is needed to go through daily
> headaches and heartaches to see our Goa get back the place of pride of
> remaining the "Rome of the East". Let us at least send in a word of
> encouragement if we cannot do anything better from far or near. If we know
> some kid going the wrong way, let us hold his or her hand and try to gently
> bring back that child - personally. I have done this and know the time and
> effort, and I know Bonnie, you too can. Internet correspondence won't help,
> personal touch, personal presence, personal pain and personal supervision
> is the need of the hour.
>
> Being a Calangute resident, I know how Calangute, Saligao, Parra and Mapusa
> looked like since my early days. The peace, tranquility, belonging, etc, is
> now missing in many areas.
>
> Let us keep on track, not divert from the relay we are running for a common
> goal.
>
> God Bless our Villages and our Goa.
>
> Agnelo Fernandes
> Calangute / Dubai
>
>


[Goanet] Forest official slaps Khotigao villager

2009-03-25 Thread sebastian Rodrigues

Goa Forest department official today slapped Khotigao villager Panglo
Velip of Pansulemoll while he was traveling on the road near his house.
Villagers has rushed to the Canacona Police Station to lodge complaint
against the forest official.

This is latest in the series of harassment to the forest based villagers 
specially tribal people.

 
Sebastian Rodrigues with input from Devidas Gaonkar


http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2009/03/forest-official-slaps-khotigao-villager.html

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[Goanet] Qupem police on prowl again against Colamb activists against mining

2009-03-25 Thread sebastian Rodrigues

Quepem police are back on the prowl to satisfy their mining masters.
Yesterday at around 6.00 pm there was physical alteration at Cawrem
village between two anti - mining activists Alcine Dias and Egyps
D'Souza on the one hand and Rivona Panchayat member of Panchayat Ram
Gaoncar who once upon a time in 2003 was opponent mining operated by
Radha Timblo belonging to Badruddin Mavany mining lease but then
surrendered himself and his land to Timblos pressure tactics.

When
the two men Alcine and Egyps went to the Police station to register the
complaint against Ram Gaoncar. Soon Timblo mining company Manager and
another contractor of the Fomento mining company in Colamb swung into
action and pressurised the police to register the case against Egyps
D'Souza. A case was registered for assault and breach of Public Peace
against Egyps. Egyps has been detained at the police station for the
full one night and when the last reports came at 2.00 pm he was still
not released nor was produced before the Quepem Deputy Collector as
required.

On the contrary when Rama Velip went to meet Egyps at
the Police station today afternoon he was arrested and forced to accept
bail and move out of the police station case in one old case pertaining
to blockade of the mining transport near Fomento mine. Colamb villagers
has claims this as false case.

Further reports are awaited.
Please call up the Quepem Police Station at phone number 08322662253
and inquire about the status on this matter.

Sebastian Rodrigues
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[Goanet] BBC ON THIS DAY | 25 | 1975: National Front rallies against Europe

2009-03-25 Thread Ruby Goes

Goanetters,
Anyone remember 'the good old days'?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/25/newsid_2531000/253
1185.stm

Yours truly,
rubygoes