[Goanet] Mr. Lisboa, the stray dog-shooter hired by the BMC

2009-11-17 Thread Domnic Fernandes

Does anyone remember Mr. Lisboa, the stray dog-shooter hired by the Bardez 
Municipal Council in Mapusa? He roamed the town on a bicycle armed with a gun 
on his shoulder. He wore khaki shorts (flare), khaki short-sleeve shirt and 
gumboots. He sometimes crossed Mapusa borders and went into villages like 
Assagao, Parra, Bastora, Sucorro, Moira, Guirim, etc. to kill dogs. He was also 
summoned privately to kill stray/mad dogs. He was a sharp-shooter!

Moi-mogan,

Domnic Fernandes
Anjuna, Goa
Mob: 9420979201

  
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Re: [Goanet] Let's Face it

2009-11-17 Thread floriano


Thanks Mervyn.
Now I know better.
Next time I want to use the Ostrich Myth, I will have to hunt google to find 
out what buries its head in the sand when in danger.

:-))
May be a coward

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj

- Original Message - 
From: "Mervyn Lobo" 

To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Let's Face it



floriano wrote:
Ostrich, they say, buries its head in sand when in life threatening 
danger.




Floriano,
This is a myth.
Here is the wikipedia reference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrich

Mervyn1140Lobo





[Goanet] re INAUGURATION OF NEW POLICE STATION IN ANJUNA

2009-11-17 Thread Edward Verdes

Read this report on Daijiworld..sur e Domnic Bab missed this..

Eddie Verdes
http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=68321&n_tit=Police+Station+in+Goa+Inaugurated+with+Belly+Dance+

Police Station in Goa Inaugurated with Belly Dance

Panaji, Nov 14 (IANS) The entire Goa Police top brass was treated to a belly 
dance performed
by a scantily clad Russian dance troupe at a newly inaugurated police 
station in the state.


The belly dance was held at a function to celebrate the inauguration of the 
new premises of the Anjuna police station,

15 km from Panaji, late Thursday evening.

Officials at the Anjuna police station said that the dance had to be called 
off after the crowd comprising of police officials
and civilians got unruly, and tried to climb onto the stage on which the 
belly dancers were performing.


"The belly dancers came as soon as the home minister left the premises after 
the inauguration.
All the senior police officials including the inspector general of police 
and senior superintendents of police were present,"
an official at the Anjuna police station said, adding that the show was 
conducted by a Delhi-based organiser of exotic dances called Yogi.


When contacted, Inspector General of Police (IGP) K.D. Singh said:
"Yogi had approached us after which he was given permission. What is the 
harm?


The place where the event was held was the police station premises and it 
was open to the public."


The inspector general of police said the media was simply "raking up the 
issue".
"When there are naked people on the beach, going against our culture, it is 
not highlighted.
But a dance event in the police station premises is taken wrongly...this 
should not be done," Singh said.




From: Domnic Fernandes <
Date: Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] INAUGURATION OF NEW POLICE STATION IN ANJUNA

Shri Bhim Sen Bassi, the Director General of Police, welcomed the gathering 
and Shri
K.D. Singh, Inspector General of Police proposed the vote of thanks while 
Police
Constable Shri Keshav Naik compered the function. 



[Goanet] Goa's intellectuals

2009-11-17 Thread Antonio Menezes
The most numerous intellectuals  in Goan society are, no doubt, Roman
Catholic priests
who have been alluded to have supernatural powers by their illiterate and
half-literate
parishioners though to be fair to them they never claimed to have them.
Unlike brahmins
of India who , they say, could burn their enemies  by generatin their
psychic strength
Alas! Central Asian Turks, Moghuls and the British came and went without
suffering
even minor burns.
Next in line are Goan medical practioners who are such a versatile lot ,
they could easily
branch into politics, journalism and what have you.
So through the courtesy of Goanet, I would like to request Selma to give us
an article on
Goan intellectuals.  Selma I believe, inher own inimitable style, could do
full justice to the
topic.  Who knows, some day , a Goan doctor armed only with a stethoscope or
a scalpel
in his hand could finally  solvethe mystery of the Bermuda Triangle to the
amazement of the
world at large


[Goanet] Corrupt Congress and Police Supporting Miners in Goa

2009-11-17 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Corrupt Congress and Police Supporting Miners in Goa

 

Reference to the article "Quepem tense, priest among 73 held" on Herald  dated
13 Nov-09, it's has been very disheartening to note that despite numerous
protests and representations over the years the Congress government turns a
blind eye to the suffering and the anxieties of the large number of people
residing in the mining areas. Has the Congress government no concern for the
lives and safety of these people ?   Most certainly, the scales have been
heavily tilted in favour of the miners, and the cause of this tilt is certainly
beyond doubt the "Koda fortune" effect. Crores outweighing, the well being of
the people of Goa. 

 

The police are only too happy to be of service to the miners for their share of
the spoils. Every time people protest peacefully, the men in uniform always make
their presence felt on the side of the miners by arresting peaceful protesters
and using brut force and intimidation and even threaten them with encounter
deaths. This surely looks like the law of the jungle here in Goa. 

 

There is no action taken against the illegal dumping of mining waste, nor
against the diminishing of water bodies as a result of mining, nor against the
deforestation that takes place, nor against the destruction of fertile land and
fields and above all no action is taken against the miners, when their trucks
are involved in accidents, some times even fatal. It is only obvious why the
politicians, the police and the bureaucracy are on the sides of the miners
rather than the people whom they had sworn to support and protect, while the
miners break all laws of decorum with utmost impunity.

 

It is very easy for the police to take action against the Aam Aadmi and arrest
them, but when it comes to tackling crime, they do look lost and ill-equipped,
for example the swords case, after one and a half year the FIR was registered,
it's been more than a month for the bomb case and we haven't heard much about
it, the number of theft cases that are going on, on a daily basis, our police
don't seem to have any answers to these, but when it come to protecting the
interests of the miners, it's efficiency at it's best.

 

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Goan... via the stomach (Alda Figueiredo's recipes)

2009-11-17 Thread Goanet Reader
THE PRINTED WORD: Goan... via the stomach

Frederick Noronha
f...@goa-india.org

  FOR GOANS overseas, music has been a strong link
  with home. The same can be said of Goan writing,
  and there is a market overseas for books on Goa.
  But cookery can't be overlooked in its role as
  another thread that keeps the far-flung diaspora in
  touch. Now more than ever because -- thanks to
  cyberspace -- the flow of ideas, information and
  books across international borders is easier than
  ever before. And Alda Figueiredo only proves this
  point.

Some weeks back, Ms Figueiredo got in touch. A friend of a
friend, she wanted to know about the possibilities of getting
her book on cookery published in Goa. From Loutolim, she
lives in the UK. In 2005, she published a Goan cookery book
in London titled 'The Goanese Fusion Flavours'.

Yes, many Goans don't like to be called "Goanese", and
believe the name is some kind of conspiracy against them. So
a change in the title is expected, while Ms. Figueiredo is
now working to come out with a Goa edition of the book.

There are quite a few Goa-related cookery books available
presently too. But that doesn't mean that there's no space
for more. On the contrary.

Bookshop owners whom I know are, in fact, keen to distribute
more titles related to this field. Not without reason: food,
like football and music, are some of the aspects of Goan life
that are popular and widely known wherever Goan communities
have made their impact felt. There's an interest in such
books, both back at home and elsewhere.

  As of now, we have a number of books on cooking in
  Goa still available in the market (besides all-time
  favourites and written by Mangalorean or Goan
  authors such as Isidore Coelho's The Chef). There
  are books by Joyce Fernandes, Gilda Mendonca, Padma
  Mahale ('Ishtann'), Jennifer Fernandes, Marie Elsa
  Lobo, Rita D'Souza, Aroona Reejhsinghani, Aruna
  Thaly ('Aswad'), among others. Check online
  listings at goabooks.com or otherindiabookstore.com

Ms Figueiredo's large-size book, printed on glossy paper,
came out in a 300-copies edition in the UK. Understandably,
it was tough shipping the book across the continents -- and
postal or freight rates can cut into the viability of a
project. But now, if an edition comes out in Goa itself, the
work could be more accessible to readers here.

* * *

Ms Figueiredo tells her story of how the book came to be:
after retirement, she travelled extensively across India, and
she is someone who appreciates food. At times, she would
thank the restaurant owner when she appreciated some meal.

She adds: "Often, I was surprised that the chef was delighted
to talk about food and describe the ingredients incorporated
in a specific dish. Similarly, I found that relatives and
friends were delighted to share their recipes with me."

Thank goodness for this culture of sharing. How much more
boring would our globe be, and how less rich our food, if we
only believed in hiding information and knowledge, not
sharing it, as the copyright-everything approach suggests.

To get under the skin of the topic, the author had to learn
the names of fruits, vegetables, grains, herbs, spices,
seafood, meat and the like. So, she has a glossary of Konkani
words in this text too.

  In her brief introduction to Goa, Ms Figueiredo
  writes: "Goans have been living abroad for several
  generations, but the Goan identity is rooted, among
  other things, in a deep enjoyment of food and
  drink. My husband and I have been living abroad for
  over forty years, but our love for Goa is warm and
  cordial and we have been visiting Goa regularly
  over the years."

The book, besides a whole lot of dishes, also includes
listings of commonly-used Goan ingredients and spices. There
is a food glossary and a recipe index. Each recipe is laid
out in a simple style, with a simple photograph showing the dish.

Given the migration reality, and the fact that Ms Figueiredo
has been away for four decades, the food obviously focuses on
traditional Catholic style Goan food, strong on its non-veg
emphasis. Today, such food is getting increasingly scarce to
find in restaurants here, as more Catholics migrate out of
Goa, and food tastes here are also determined by tourists --
both desi and foreign -- and communities that migrate in here.

But in Figueiredo's book there is also a fair sprinkling of
food from elsewhere -- masala dosa, apple pickle, carrot-cake
Indian style and more.

  There are a number of names from the Goa of the
  past: miscut (green mango pickle), mangada (mango
  jam), tendli pickle, dried prawn balchao preserve,
  fish parra, pork parra, fish moley, masachi koddi
  (Goan beef curry) and even an Anne Mascarenhas'

Re: [Goanet] Mr. Lisboa, the stray dog-shooter hired by the BMC

2009-11-17 Thread Frederick Noronha
Wasn't there Pregal (splg?) who was from the Betim or Verem area and
worked for the Panjim municipality too? FN

2009/11/17 Domnic Fernandes :
Does anyone remember Mr. Lisboa, the stray dog-shooter hired by the
Bardez Municipal Council in Mapusa? He roamed the town on a bicycle
armed with a gun on his shoulder. He wore khaki shorts (flare), khaki
short-sleeve shirt and gumboots. He sometimes crossed Mapusa borders
and went into villages like Assagao, Parra, Bastora, Sucorro, Moira,
Guirim, etc. to kill dogs. He was also summoned privately to kill
stray/mad dogs. He was a sharp-shooter!

-- 
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Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
ANOTHER GOA: http://openlibrary.org/b/OL23851672M/Another_Goa


[Goanet] Law of lots

2009-11-17 Thread Joel Moraes
Law of Lots
What a place it was and what it turned out to be?I m talking about a place 
where law itself don't have faith in it's own laws and that is the reason why 
the fate of the shack owners will be decided by lots.Has anytime lots favoured 
the genuine and hard-working?God save our souls.
 
Joel Morais
P.O.Cuncolim,
Bencleamvaddo,
Salcette,Goa.
Pin-403703
mob-9970561727






[Goanet] Diets High In Sodium And Artificially Sweetened Soda Linked To Kidney Function Decline

2009-11-17 Thread Con Menezes
Sweet Deception?
Read about the dangers of Artificial Sweeteners

Con
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091101132543.htm


[Goanet] L'Ace

2009-11-17 Thread Agnelo Fernandes
Hi,
Does anyone have contacts for the lead guitarist of L'Ace - Agnelo d'Costa or 
the bassist, Laurie?
Thanks
Agnelo


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Re: [Goanet] Mr. Lisboa, the stray dog-shooter hired by the BMC

2009-11-17 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
I remember Letho from Mapusa Municipality shooting stray dogs and taking
a piece of dog tail as proof of his efforts to collect his wages.

 

~Avelino

---

From: Domnic Fernandes 

Does anyone remember Mr. Lisboa, the stray dog-shooter hired by the
Bardez Municipal Council in Mapusa? He roamed the town on a bicycle
armed with a gun on his shoulder. He wore khaki shorts (flare), khaki
short-sleeve shirt and gumboots. He sometimes crossed Mapusa borders and
went into villages like Assagao, Parra, Bastora, Sucorro, Moira, Guirim,
etc. to kill dogs. He was also summoned privately to kill stray/mad
dogs. He was a sharp-shooter!






[Goanet] 1BHK SPACIOUS FLAT FOR SALE AT MARGAO GOING CHEAP

2009-11-17 Thread amar kantak
17th November 2009

Dear All,

I have a 1BHK spacious flat 65 Sqmts located on 1st floor in “CHRISVILLE 
APARTMENTS”. The building is just 5 years old and situated near KERKAR HOSPITAL 
at Aquem-Alto, Margao. Reasonably priced with clear title Sale Deed for further 
details those interested may Contact: Owner: AMAR - 9422627589.

 regards,
AMAR KANTAK





Re: [Goanet] Lion Roars

2009-11-17 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Hi Lionel,
I wish to reply to your ROAR with some input of my own, OK?

- Original Message 
From: Lionel Messias lionroars@gmail.com
*Cock and Bull stories
*‘Pay parking is the need of the hour, since parking is free everybody
brings four wheelers to the cities, mostly shopkeepers and businessmen, who
park their vehicles for the whole day,’ said Arvind Gawas, SP to Herald.
Let’s not even bother to dissect the absurdity of his argument, because a
mere Rs 5 per hour isn’t going to convince car owners to pass up Panjim nor
is the per hour rate going to deter traders who will simply pass it on to
the unwitting consumer.

Nascy:
Even with 'pay parking' the problem of parking will not be anywhere near 
resolution; for the simple reason that there are no parking spaces added since 
half a century ago and there are no plans either, for adding more parking 
spaces. It is imperative that some older buildings in certain strategic places 
be bought and brought down and multi storeyed car parks be created, along 
with other traffic regulation measures. Until then parking shpuld be restricted 
to just an hour or less and so on acocrding to the user requirements of the 
'particular parking' places; and even then these spaces should incur a 
heavy charge of at least Rs 25/- per half hour.  It is not just the '4' 
wheelere that are the cause of parking problems; but the' two wheeler' are 
the ones that are the greater cause of parking shortages and mayhem. These are 
much more in number and do haphazard parking; and I suggest that 2 wheelers pay 
an equal charge. This is the only way to decongest
 the roads and mke parking more manageable. 2 wheelers should be allowed free 
parking near Bus and Railway statons etc. and asked to take public transport 
from there to their destination.

Lionel:
 But really, what Gawas needs to do expeditiously is
to ban vehicles including mobile food vendors entering 18th June Road and
instead convert it into a shoppers’ promenade (pedestrian only street) which
has successfully been done the world over. I am sure our touring *montris *and
babus have had the pleasure (courtesy your tax money of course) of seeing
them on several occasions. In March this year shoppers and non-shoppers
overwhelmingly voted in a survey to make Bangalore’s hugely popular
Commercial Street a pedestrian zone. It’s not been done yet, but Bangalore
is getting there.

Nascy:
Food Vendors and Hawkers and Ghaddas have to be completely banned without 
exception, from the streets everywhere. Zero tolerance, and at once the streets 
will be decongested and look good and and help orderly flow of traffic.
The Idea of Pedestrian Only Malls and Zones has to be made popular first with 
discourses etc, and shopkeepers have to be coaxed and given incentive to move 
to and trade from such Zones. This takes time, but a start has to be made.
 Cmmercial and Residential and Industrial  Zones must be formed and delineated 
and strictly enforced; even with just a mere road/ lane seperation will help. 
India and Goa has to learn from the developed places; as these countries and 
towns have acquired a wealth of expertise by trial and error; there is no need 
to re-invent the wheel; only modify it, if at all.

Lionel:
 But for baloney, Gawas gets the month’s Emmy for
outstanding gibberish beating the transport and river navigation minister’s
rubbish on introducing a Ro-Ro ferry service between Agassaim and Cortalim
on a build-operate basis. The other contender is this hair-brained idea of a
link between Dona Paula and Mormugao port. This, like the Mopa airport, will
never happen, but here’s a hint to the officials who went on a junket and
returned awed by the Rs 1,600 cr Bandra-Worli sea link.

Nascy:
There is no need of a Ro-Ro service; this is nothing but a bribe/ money making 
business. Why not build a second bridge, a good one like the Railway Bridge at 
this point; Build it on  a war footing, starting tomorrow!!!. It's been talked 
about for the last 10 years or more.

Mopa was and is a 'contoversial site' and is another partisan business idea and 
was never suitable for 'three fourths' of Goa. That is the reason it has not 
and should never come up. But the Mormagao- Panjim area Sea Link is a good 
idea, and should be taken up and will be be beneficial to all travellors, 
tourists, Locals and Business alike! The Dabolim airport and the Harbour and 
Railway activities will all benefit largely. This will save time and costs and 
wear and tear on vehicles; Provided the same is built with flow on roads and 
other facilities; and most importantly, has to be well built from an 
engineering and construction point of view. Never mind the Cost! More money is 
siphoned off and looted than that, these days.

Lionel:
*Saved! 20 minutes*
Autocar recently tested the Sea Link and the traditional Mahim-Prabhadevi
route in two Maruti Swifts. Their drivers took off from the domestic airport
at 9.30 am sharp, joining the rush hour traffic hea

Re: [Goanet] Goa's intellectuals

2009-11-17 Thread Carvalho


--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Antonio Menezes  wrote:
> Selma to give us
> an article on
> Goan intellectuals.  Selma I believe, inher own
> inimitable style, could do
> full justice to the
> topic.  
---

Dear Antonio,
You and I must be connected somehow because for some time now I have been 
toying with this idea of writing about just such a column titled "Goa's lions 
in winter". Rest assured dear Antonio, my pen will wield its ink on this topic, 
all in good time.

Best,
selma





[Goanet] Pro Badminton League- Nov 19 to Nov 22

2009-11-17 Thread Sandeep Heble
The badminton scene in Goa is in for a big boost with the launch of
‘Pro Badminton League’, a Team Championship event, featuring 8 Elite
Teams from the different corners of Goa.

The championship will be inaugurated at the hands of Mr. B.S. Bassi,
Director General of Police and Shri V M Prabhudesai, Executive
Director, SAG on 19th November at 6.30 pm. The League Championship is
the first of its kind to be conducted on a Professional level in Goa
and will be held in the Indoor Stadium at Campal, Panaji. The
Championship Finals are scheduled on 22nd November at 5.30pm.  The
League is organized by Panjim Badminton Club and supported by the
Sports Authority of Goa and the Goa Badminton Association.

With the National Games 2011 in sight, the League has been initiated
to help young budding Goan sportspersons compete at the highest level
and to rope in the necessary Corporate sponsorships which the Sport is
lacking. Eight Elite Teams representing the various ‘Corporate houses’
and Major Sports Clubs of Goa will compete against each other in a
League format. The best Badminton Players from the State will feature
in each of these 8 Teams.  The Champions will receive a purse of Rs
2/-, the Runners-up Rs 15000/- and the 2 semi-finalists Rs 7500/-
each, in addition to glittering trophies. Several promising player and
special prizes will also be awarded.

Following is a List of the Teams (Players mentioned therein are
requested to report at the Indoor Stadium on the 19th at 6.30pm):

1.  Fomento Flamingos
Floyd Araujo – Captain, Rahul Chandrashekar, Chinmay Kamat, Navneet
Nasnodkar, Roopchand Humrasker,  Candido Dias and Supriya Kuchelkar
Kenkre.

2.  Margao Warriors
Sandeep Kanji – Captain, Yash Angle, Sanath Kamat, Kamlesh Kanji,
Vinayak Kamat, Cancio Mascarenas and Anura Prabhudesai

3.  Ponda Shuttlers
Sudhin Kuvelkar – Captain, Sharmad Mahajan, Sohan Kelekar, Pradip
Prabhu, Anurag Prabhu, Kunal Savordekar, Pradip Dhond and Anushka
Kuvelkar.

4.  PBC Golden Eagles
Sunny Sawant- Captain,  Pranav Silimkhan,   Sumukh Sawant, Parag
Chauhan, Darwin Barretto, Ajay Gupta,  Narahar Thakur and Vaibhavi
Kalangutkar.

5.  Mapusa Gladiators
Pankaj Naik – Captain, Aniket Shenoy, Krishnaraj Gawas, Krushnan Naik,
Manoj Humrasker, P.K.Gupta, T.S.Sawant and Sonali Gaonkar.

6.  Royal Panthers
Vishal Vernekar- Captain, Pratit Naik, Dhruv Angle, Nikhil Fulari,
Wilfred Jaques, Peter Teles, Ramnath Shetgaokar and Riya Kosambi.

7.  Panjim Challengers
Luciano Soares- Captain, Yatish Devidas, Vaibhav Shetye, Dr Sumeet
Kaisare, Rajaram Kundaikar, Anil Paigankar,  Dr Borkar and Pranjal
Chimulkar.

8.  Mallya Riders
Rakesh Mallya – Captain, Pramay Mainkar, Ishaan Vernekar,
Chandrashekar, Ashok Menon, Pradosh Silimkhan, Arnold Rodriges and
Reshma Sukhtancar.

Yours sincerely,
Sandeep Heble,
Secretary, PBC


[Goanet] Goenkarancho Orixtt Avaz (GOA) - Mission Resignation

2009-11-17 Thread Arwin Mesquita
GOA threatens to launch ‘Mission Resignation’


HERALD REPORTER

MARGAO, NOV 14


The Goenkarancho Orixtt Avaz (GOA) has served December 31, 2008 as the
deadline to resolve all issues plaguing Goa and Goans or threatened to
launch “Mission Resignation” of the elected representatives representing all
the constituencies.


At an impressive meeting held at the historic Lohia Maidan, the GOA has
unitedly opposed destruction of the ecology, culture and the environment by
a “reckless” government through maladministration and incompetence in
collusion with land sharks, corruption, mining magnets, drug mafia, gambling
dons etc.


Various speakers made impassioned pleas to Goans to leave aside their
religious and other differences and join hand to save the state from the
exodus of migrants and an indifferent Government.


The meeting adopted a host of resolutions, demanding special status for Goa;
de-notification of the land acquisition for Mopa Airport; upgradation of
Dabolim Airport; scrapping of the Special Economic Zones and the Food Park
proposed at Quittol; stopping of mining activities etc


While opposing dual voting rights to migrants in Goa, the meeting passed a
resolution asking the Government to scrutinise all voting cards, control
influx of migrants by not patronising slums and schemes to migrants at the
cost of Goan tax payers.


Asserting that resolutions adopted at the gram sabha meetings should be
binding on the panchayats, the meeting called for retaining Goan villages as
per old customs, tradition and culture in the interest of Goa and Goans.


In his address, Matanhy Saldanha strongly demanded special status for Goa
under the Constitution of India.


“Only a special status can stop sale of land for outsiders”, he said and
urged both Hindus and Christians to unite and save the State from
destruction.


Fr Bismark urged the youth to join politics in large numbers and also jobs
in the police and other department, saying if the locals shun politics or
jobs, outsiders will come grab them.


Amol Navelkar of Utt Goenkara said the time has come to bring about a change
in the Government. “Presently, migrants determine the politics in 10-12
constituencies, the figure may touch 15 constituencies”, he said and warned
that if Goans do not join hands, migrants will come in droves and reduce
Goans to a minority.


He said the Government’s one-point program is to sell Goa and destroy the
State and urged the people to save the State from further destruction.


Patsy of Nustekrancho Ekvott appealed to the Goans not to let their
accommodation on rent to the migrant, saying the accommodation is a passport
for the migrants to obtain ration cards and other facilities.


In his address, Fr Eremito Rebello said the time has come for the people to
arise and awake and save Goa from further destruction. He said outsiders are
coming in droves in Goa, warning that Goans would be displaced one day in
their own land.


Among others who spoke were Adv Anacleto Viegas, Auda Viegas, Diego Pereira,
Theo Fernandes, Dr Jorson Fernandes, Procopio Fernandes, Socorro D’Souza,
Imtiaz Sayed, Anthony D’Silva, Marshal, Prashant Faldesai, Salvador Gracias,
Romana Cardozo, Rayson Almeida, Nana Gaonkar.



http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=12633&cid=26

VIVA GOA

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1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/

2. "Rape of Goa" : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/

3. MAND - an adivasi-rights 

[Goanet] Our Cynicism Towards Politics

2009-11-17 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Our Cynicism Towards Politics

 

Spotless white symbolizes goodness and purity, light symbolizes divinity and
eternity, while black and darkness symbolizes evil and death, these are the
symbols among many others that are used by people to express themselves, and
will continue to do so, in the years to come. Today's politics on the other
hand, depicts the worst in human qualities, a lot of people today are appalled
and are even aghast to the very word. But politics whether we like it or hate
it, is part of our system and hence very much a part of our lives. 

 

I know a lot of people who do not want to get involved in politics and advise
others too, to stay away from it, I have been told by a number of people, that
if I want to keep my reputation intact I should leave "the muck" alone and will
have peace and happiness at home, I know a family where the wife asked the
husband who was interested in politics to choose either the family or politics,
this is the cynicism towards politics, but is that the solution ?  Today
politics is become a derogatory word, only because we have made it that way. It
is indeed we who have comprehensively contributed to the derogation of politics,
some have done it by active participation, while others by their inaction,
either way, it is our fault, and we are responsible for making a divine
profession into an appalling aberration.

 

I am not a psychologist nor a philosopher, but from what I know, human being in
it's basic form, has both goodness and evil in him, but our character depends on
which of the two stays dominant and recessive, sometimes nature takes it's
course, but a good number of times it is the situation that asserts and at times
it is the influence of others that make us what we are. 

 

Politicians are humans too, however corrupt our politician might be,  they can
only go to the limits, that the people allow them to go, they are not the power
unto themselves, it is the power of our votes that gives them the power, if we
have the power to give them the power, so have we the power, to take the power
away from them, it is just the will of the people that matters and the corrupt
politicians can be brought to their knees but to do that we ourselves have to
incorruptible in the first place. We should be able to distinguish between good
and evil, goodness and darkness and even white and black.

 

If we take a look at Goa in particular, it is the apathy shown by the people of
Goa in electing good people that is so baffling, forget about the vote banks,
forget about the corrupt candidates, why is it that we cannot change our way of
thinking, and bring down the corrupt as well as the communal forces that have
taken Goa to the brink of disaster ? Why do we elect the same corrupt and
communal forces to power over and over again, even after knowing the futility of
electing them ? We Goans do need to prove, that the 80% plus literacy that we
have, is not just statistics, that we Goans are not just educated but a matured
and thoughtful electorate as well. 

 

We Goans, have to think in terms of our future rather than our selfish goals, we
have to put aside all our personal differences and think about the good that we
can do for Goa and Goans and let the corrupt politicians know that if we have to
power to elect them, that we also have the power to bring them down, then, only
then, will our politicians respect the will of the people, and give us good
governance, which will indeed change our perceptions of politics and once again
relate it to the spotless white and the light that it once was, and so encourage
good people to take up politics, darkness and evil will always be there, but it
will be the goodness and the righteousness that we need to seek that will indeed
make us Goans proud of being Goans, 

 

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] Pro Badminton League

2009-11-17 Thread Bernado Colaco
Surprised to read that Thakur almost in his 50's still shuttling around.

BC


Narahar Thakur





[Goanet] Propolis Has Proved To Be A Product With Ability To Have Beneficial Effects For Health

2009-11-17 Thread Con Menezes
Thgis Bee product has enormous benefit for your health.
Read more..

Con
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[Goanet] EFSA affirms omega-3 can benefit baby brains and eyes

2009-11-17 Thread Con Menezes
Omega-3 benefits baby's eyes & brain.
more here

Con
http://www.nutraingredients.com/Regulation/EFSA-affirms-omega-3-can-benefit-baby-brains-and-eyes


[Goanet] INDIAN TENDULKAR - By: Bennet Paes (Assolna/Goa)

2009-11-17 Thread TABP
INDIAN TENDULKAR
By: Bennet Paes


“I am an Indian” was from the horse’s mouth. “first” is from the media’s. 
Tendulkar 
could have better said: “I am a Maharashtrian Indian” and it could have avoided 
the 
current controversy with the Thackeray’s, in my opinion. Let’s discuss this 
further.

When I first saluted a flag, it was Portuguese, and I sang” Herois do mar…..”, 
too. 
When I first traveled out of Goa , it was on a Portuguese passport. When people 
overseas asked me who I am, I said I am a Goan. I did not say Portuguese, 
because I 
thought my very looks would betray me. And I did not say Indian because I was 
not, 
then (even though I looked like one).

Soon after India’s invasion of Goa, I was asked to get an Indian passport while 
abroad. And I said ‘invasion’ because while Gandhi got British rule replaced by 
Indian rule in India, Goa’s rule by the Portuguese was replaced by an Indian 
army, 
and not by Gandhi’s satyagraha). I was not told specifically to change my 
passport 
from Portuguese to Indian. There was an ambiguity in my mind. So I had both, 
but I 
used the Indian one for residential purposes, and the Portuguese one for making 
world travel infinitely easier. Now, finally I am back in Indian Goa, on an 
Indian 
passport.

Although I had first said I was just a Goan, now I say I am an Indian, and with 
a 
little prodding by the enquirer, I prefix the word Indian by ‘Goan’. Which 
means I 
am a Goan Indian.

Footnote: My birthplace is Goa, and Goa now being in India , my nationality is 
Indian, (although I could also have citizenship of another country, honorary or 
by a 
freak of history). That makes sense to me.

--- 




Re: [Goanet] Enemy property

2009-11-17 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
 re: Ancestral property of Goans and the long standing wrangle -

While I can understand the expression of disgust by Venantius and the
Bernado's 'fighting words', and while I could very reasonably blame
this mess on the alleged Freedom Fighters (and real ones too) for NOT
having worked out these details (Idiots), I believe that there might
be one way forward for those descendants and relatives that have been
Continuously Resident in the property for a period of 12 years or
more:

1: Find a good Land Law lawyer (not a crook) who knows the Law as it
relates to Adverse Possession.

2: Have your Ration Card, Electricity, Tel Receipts  etc (if possible)
for 12 years at least.

3: Apply for registration of the property in your name.

Just a thought

hope this helps.

The alternative is to allow the "Babus" and the 'advogadhs' to screw
you off the property

jc



Venantius J Pinto  wrote:


 When I hear stuff like this "enemy properties" -- I curse. I hope our
government functionaries across the totem really used that as as
internal
 term, That gives me more reason to curse. This time I will settle for
calling our guys ---  arseholes.


[Goanet] songs with mog

2009-11-17 Thread JANE ALPHONSO


 






Hi guys i am back with some more songs as some of u guys have been asking for 
songs so i hope u will enjoy this. Hope u will have a nice day. With mog to 
all. Some of you want to know who i am well i am the daughter of PRICLA and the 
late JOSE FERNANDES. My late dad and a group of friends were the first 
people to bring actors from Gaoa to act in Kenya that was in the 1960. My late 
dad acted with a lot of old actors you name them and i will say yes. My dad 
wrote his own songs and  his own plays. He  made a lot of people laugh. He was 
born in Kenya and brought up in Goa he was for Aldona but they moved to 
Assagoa. He came back to Kenya in 1950 and we all moved to London in 1975 . He 
had given a lot of plays in Kenya. Dad had given a play here too in London with 
the kind help of Mr.J. Menezes and it was house full. He just had to come on 
stage and the people would laugh. I would be very happy to hear for any one who 
knew him. Please
  write to me . with mog to all from Jane
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTA_EqMq3WopU6zU1MO4IRochnar
 Bap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTA_EqMq3Wo 
Izdim  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZMj1ZblcDwNimannea Sunkrarak Pvs Zhodlo? By 
Mini Mario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRh2ULcRjhMKonkani Song By Mini mario
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cURah7GhjRUMATTARPON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYBPGnSWEL0Amig
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT0VMgk0tQM

AVSEQ10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p96BcISUZOw

AVSEQ11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMoNUXhON5k
AVSEQ09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_zfwnDU8sQKonkani Song



Re: [Goanet] Margao's "suffocated" roads-2: HERALD(Goa), Nov 15, 2009

2009-11-17 Thread Naguesh Bhatcar

Valmiki,

I beg to differ on your statement -- "we can't blame just politicians and 
business folks for all the wrongs in Goa."
The power of the Goan population ends, once they have cast their ballot on
election day. They are absolutely powerless, once a guy is elected. Then he/she
takes control of everything and keeps his core group of people happy and is 
ensured
re-election. Of course, that is the general criteria across all democracies, 
but the 
common man does not get impacted as much as one can see in Goa.

Why should the Goa government push for the Vasco-Dona Paula sealink, when it
does not have a basic infrastructure in place to provide water,electricity and 
cooking
gas, without interruptions? The streets and roads are clogged with traffic. 
There is
flooding on the streets during monsoons. Nobody looks at the day to day 
problems 
faced by the common man. 

I might be away from Goa, but I have tried to keep up with whatever that is 
going
on and I have seen no improvement in infrastructure at all. While crores of 
rupees
will be spent on this sealink, nothing, absolutely nothing is being done to 
improve
the water and electricity supply. Water supply is a constant problem for many 
in Panjim.
I have seen the traffic congestion in Panjim and Margao. 
 
I saw a lot of positive comments about the sealink from the business community,
but none asked or talked about the infrastructure projects. And with the size 
and
scope of such a large project, I can guarantee you that there will corruption 
and
many of the politicians will be benefit. The Bandra-Worli sealink was a 
requirement
for Mumbai and it can be considered as an infrastructural project. Can anyone 
justify the proposed Vasco-Dona Paula sealink as an infrastructural investment?
We have had the Mandovi bridge collapse and the Zuari bridge is in tatters and 
here
we are planning a bridge at the mouth of the Arabian sea! 
 

Naguesh Bhatcar
sgbhat...@hotmail.com



> From: valmi...@gmail.com
> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:29:05 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Margao's "suffocated" roads-2: HERALD(Goa), Nov 15, 
> 2009
> 
> Naguesh,
> 
> Let's be honest, we can't blame just politicians and business folks for
> all the wrongs in Goa. Having lived long in Canada, you may be just a
> wee bit out of synch with the ground realities here. Businessmen are
> in business for profits, not charity. Politicians are an altogether different
> story. But who elects them?
> 
> It is us, the people who live in Goa. Unless they change, nothing else in
> Goa will.
> 
> Regards, v
> 
> 

  

Re: [Goanet] World War II German presence in Goa

2009-11-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Mario Goveia  wrote:
>
>I didn't know the world contributed much if anything to the Marshall Plan.
>

Actually, Marshall agreed with the Noronha plan even though his was different. 
Nobody agreed with Marshall.

Cheers,

Santosh


  


Re: [Goanet] 1BHK SPACIOUS FLAT FOR SALE AT MARGAO GOING CHEAP

2009-11-17 Thread Jim Fernandes

What is your asking price?

Jim F

Sent from my iPhone

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[Goanet] Fw: Visiting Casinos like going to Temple: DGP - TOI/17.11.09- Pg 4

2009-11-17 Thread floriano


- Original Message - 
From: floriano

To: mytimesmyvo...@timesgroup.com
Cc: Dainik Gomantak ; taru...@rediffmail.com ; pudhari...@rediffmail.com ; 
navpra...@gmail.com ; goenkarn...@rediffmail.com ; Sunaparant -2 ; 
goad...@gmail.com ; GULAB ; Vavraddeancho ixtt ; Pamela D'Mello ; 
devikaseque...@gmail.com ; news group goan ; Goan Observer ; 
vinayaknai...@gmail.com ; Gomantak Times ; Herald ; Navhind Times

Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: Visiting Casinos like going to Temple: DGP - TOI/17.11.09- Pg 4


" The DySP need not be present for the entire period of night duty. Casinos 
are not illegal. It's like going to temples, churches, fishing or 
restaurants"

[B.S. Bassi - DGP Goa.]


If this is true, then we better shed our super-religiousity,  which, in any 
way,  is the primary cause of much unwanted grief and heart-aches in today's 
world,  and start lining up for the entry to Casinos, where one can lock 
oneself up in a bar-room, do the praying, drinking, eating or fondling 
etc...  all in one. Who needs to go to the Temple or the Church? and 
increase the decibel levels amounting to noise pollution?


When I pointed these pearls of wisdom from our esteemed DGP to a friend, he 
retorted by saying that the DGP was absolutely right. "Aren't our  temple 
premises used for gambling?" he asked.


"I don't know"  I said.

Cheers
floriano lobo
Gen. Sec. Goa Su-Raj Party
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org



Communalization of politics has serious consequences
for culture of governance. It is when a party fails to
provide good governance but still wants to gain or
regain power that it plays the communal card.
Communal politics is, thus, a threat both to our
spiritual heritage from the past and our well being
in the present.

Swami Agnivesh 



[Goanet] Cops in Casino

2009-11-17 Thread Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão





I don’t know why the press is making such a big issue about the cops at the 
casinos. They did not see them gambling, did they? And even if they did, casino 
gambling is legal in Goa. The Director General of Police is right in stating 
that the officers could go to the casinos during their off duty, just like 
people visit churches, temples, etc. So too public should not waste time to 
figure out how a cop can pay an entry fee of Rs. 2,000; or whether it was 
complimentary and the casino played a host to these top officers. It was off 
duty, and does not amount to corrupt practice of accepting gratification. Even 
if tomorrow you see one dining at a five star hotel along with a realtor or a 
builder; it is not illegal, and no need to report it in the press. After all it 
is very common practice in Goa and does not make news.   
 
 

Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.

  
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[Goanet] Our cynicism towards politics

2009-11-17 Thread Carmen Miranda
*Our cynicism Towards Politics*



Like Freddy Fernandes I find it equally baffling and also ask why indeed do
Goans elect the same corrupt and communal forces to power over and over
again, even after knowing the positive dangers of electing them.


Is there a masochistic and almost suicidal streak in the Goan DNA that makes
them chose a political path of self-destruction?



No doubt politics in India are now synonymous with corruption, but I think
it is possible to clean up politics with strong leadership and a party that
stands for the right policies, a party of good governance, which is so
desperately needed in Goa!



Obviously, when it comes to voting, Goa’s 80% plus literacy rates are
meaningless if the electorate is not presented with a decent choice.
Unfortunately
people’s apathy has not yet stopped them from voting altogether! Because
frankly, if there are no choices of educated and reputable parties and
candidates to vote for, I think people should not vote at all or should
start seriously thinking of searching for alternative candidates and
political parties (and they don’t have to look far) instead of being easily
bought by the shameful and degrading voting bribes offered by the current
politicians.



With the increasingly dramatic, frequent and catastrophic effects of climate
change, now more than ever Goa needs a government that knows what it is
doing, looks after the interests of the majority of people and the
environment and takes the right measures and invests in policies to mitigate
the effects of climate change instead of just taking measures to fill up the
pockets of a few who are already rich, and of course above all, their own
pockets with scandalous vast fortunes, which no one seems to question how
they were acquired.



So much for democracy!



Carmen Miranda


Re: [Goanet] Our Cynicism Towards Politics

2009-11-17 Thread floriano

Dear Freddy,

We, at Goa Su-Raj Party said it for the last 10 years, that 'politics' is a 
sacred mission and that it cannot be left to the street dogs.
And,  so far, we have not noticed anyone saying it with enough conviction 
till  today when you have said it in resounding  words.


We stand corrected if we are wrong in saying the above.

We have been tired out telling people that 'if politics runs your entire 
life, how come you shun politics altogether except to stand in line to vote?
We have asked this question: 'Is it enough that you discharge your 
obligation to vote?'  'Does the quality of the voting matters?'  'Are you 
conscious that if you don't network with others to vote-in the right 
ideology and the right people, your vote will be rendered useless or used 
against you to harm you more than to help you?'


If the price of tooth paste goes up, we howl at our children not to be 
wasteful. It cost good money we say, that is politics.
If the garbage bin outside our building is full, uncleared for months 
together, and invites stray diseased dogs, we fear that we/our children may 
contract rabies, that is politics
If the mosquitoes have a field day when power fails and our fans stop 
tuning, that is politics.
If the farmers and their families go hungry with hardly a meal a day, and 
commit suicides in desperation, that is politics.
If the ministers (Karnataka) cry tears of concern for the flood hit victims 
but go of splurging themselves with cores of rupees furnishing their 
residences, that is politics.
When Goa ministers and MLAs hike their perks and salaries when infact they 
are supposed to show the lead with austerity measures, that is politics.


So, how come you don't like politics? to the extent of hating  it?
You hate yourself enough so you want to roll in a life that is full of muck?

Even God will refuse to help you for He has said "I will help those who help 
themselves"
That means: those who are unconcerned about themselves and their dependents 
deserve to go to dogs.


And, Goans are three quarters of the way  already to this destination.

Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org

- Original Message - 
From: "Freddy Fernandes" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:09 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Our Cynicism Towards Politics


Our Cynicism Towards Politics



Spotless white symbolizes goodness and purity, light symbolizes divinity and
eternity, while black and darkness symbolizes evil and death, these are the
symbols among many others that are used by people to express themselves, and
will continue to do so, in the years to come. Today's politics on the other
hand, depicts the worst in human qualities, a lot of people today are 
appalled
and are even aghast to the very word. But politics whether we like it or 
hate

it, is part of our system and hence very much a part of our lives.






[Goanet] The hoax seems to be unraveling

2009-11-17 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:36:01 -0500
From: MD 

Re: President Obama's visit to China, that these two countries are responsible 
for a whopping 40% of GHG emissions of our world!!.

Mario observes:

So what, MD?  What are you suggesting?

These two countries are also responsible for a "whopping" percentage of the 
world's economy and production.  Besides, total man-made GHG, essentially CO2 
is only 0.013% of the earth's atmosphere, whereas natural CO2 is only 0.023%.  
Does it make sense to you that such tiny amounts of a clear plant food like CO2 
can make the remaining 99.964% of the earth's atmosphere act like a 
"greenhouse"

MD wrote:

Otherwise, how come Canada is so cold in November itself???

Mario responds:

I think they call it "winter":-))

MD wrote:

(of course, I have seen how far back the glacier has gone on the
Canadian Rockies and whatever ice falls, melts away the same year,
adding nothing more).

Mario responds:

I think this always happens in "summer":-))

MD wrote:

The GHG data reported by Parties contain estimates for direct
greenhouse gases, such as:
CO2 - Carbon dioxide
CH4 - Methane
N2O - Nitrous oxide
PFCs - Perfluorocarbons
HFCs - Hydrofluorocarbons
SF6 - Sulphur hexafluoride
as well as for the indrect greenhouse gases such as SO2, NOx, CO and NMVOC.

Mario responds:

MD, you need to keep in mind that 99% of the earth's atmosphere is oxygen [21%] 
and nitrogen [78%], with the other 1% made up of argon (0.9 percent), carbon 
dioxide (0.036 percent), varying amounts of water vapor, and trace amounts of 
hydrogen, ozone, methane, carbon monoxide, helium, neon, krypton, and xenon.

Two thirds of the CO2 (0.023%) is natural and only one third (0.013%) is man 
made and subject to any control by changing human activity.

I don't think total global GHG's can be changed significantly as a percentage 
of the total earth's atmosphere because the less developed countries and 
several major countries are not going to shrink their economic development to 
reduce emissions, and man-made CO2, the main GHG, is only 0.013% to begin with.

Not to mention there is a worldwide economic slowdown going on right now.

There are also some scientists who believe that there may be a correlation 
between the so-called GHG's and global temperatures but that the GHG's are not 
the cause of global temperatures, which have actually declined slightly since 
1998.  These scientists believe that it is activity on the sun that is 
responsible, and they point to global warming on Pluto and Mars to make their 
point.

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/monckton/monckton-global_warming_has_stopped.pdf

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming031307.htm

What may be at work here is the desire for state control over entire economies 
by certain politicians and the UN, especially those who want a one world 
government controlled by a small group of elites who know what's good for 
everyone else, better than they do.  Their objective is to bring the productive 
western economies down to everyone else's level.
 
The end result would be a loss of personal freedoms and a lower standard of 
living for everyone without any meaningful change in GHGs.
 
Fortunately, calmer heads have begun to realize this and the UN has been forced 
time and again to scale back their plans to force mostly the western economies 
to turn their economies back to the good old days.
 

 











Re: [Goanet] INDIAN TENDULKAR - By: Bennet Paes (Assolna/Goa)

2009-11-17 Thread eric pinto
Ignorance ad nauseum ! eric.





From: TABP 
To: Goanet 
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 7:09:03 AM
Subject: [Goanet] INDIAN TENDULKAR - By: Bennet Paes (Assolna/Goa)

INDIAN TENDULKAR
By: Bennet Paes


“I am an Indian” was from the horse’s mouth. “first” is from the media’s. 
Tendulkar 
could have better said: “I am a Maharashtrian Indian” and it could have avoided 
the 
current controversy with the Thackeray’s, in my opinion. Let’s discuss this 
further.

When I first saluted a flag, it was Portuguese, and I sang” Herois do mar…..”, 
too. 
When I first traveled out of Goa , it was on a Portuguese passport. When people 
overseas asked me who I am, I said I am a Goan. I did not say Portuguese, 
because I 
thought my very looks would betray me. And I did not say Indian because I was 
not, 
then (even though I looked like one).

Soon after India’s invasion of Goa, I was asked to get an Indian passport while 
abroad. And I said ‘invasion’ because while Gandhi got British rule replaced by 
Indian rule in India, Goa’s rule by the Portuguese was replaced by an Indian 
army, 
and not by Gandhi’s satyagraha). I was not told specifically to change my 
passport 
from Portuguese to Indian. There was an ambiguity in my mind. So I had both, 
but I 
used the Indian one for residential purposes, and the Portuguese one for making 
world travel infinitely easier. Now, finally I am back in Indian Goa, on an 
Indian 
passport.

Although I had first said I was just a Goan, now I say I am an Indian, and with 
a 
little prodding by the enquirer, I prefix the word Indian by ‘Goan’. Which 
means I 
am a Goan Indian.

Footnote: My birthplace is Goa, and Goa now being in India , my nationality is 
Indian, (although I could also have citizenship of another country, honorary or 
by a 
freak of history). That makes sense to me.

--- 





Re: [Goanet] The hoax seems to be unraveling

2009-11-17 Thread Frederick Noronha
Can we change the name of this list to climate-change-denial-list please? FN

2009/11/17 Mario Goveia :
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:36:01 -0500
> From: MD 
>
> Re: President Obama's visit to China, that these two countries are 
> responsible for a whopping 40% of GHG emissions of our world!!.
>
> Mario observes:
>
> So what, MD?  What are you suggesting?

Blah, blah, blah...

-- 
Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490
Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism


[Goanet] A MILLION PRICELESS EMOTIONS CAPTURED

2009-11-17 Thread Goan Shutterbugs
*39 Goan Shutterbugs*
*650 Children*
*and A MILLION PRICELESS EMOTIONS CAPTURED*

at the CHILDREN’S DAY - BAL MELA’09 at the Big Foot Sanskriti Kendra,
Loutolim, 15th Nov

Thanks EVERYONE for the AWESOME response.

GOAN SHUTTERBUGS – Goa’s FIRST Photographers Club for Hobbyists, Amateurs
and Professionals was started on 19th August the World Photography Day. So
far we had 6 Photo Walks / Shoots, 2 Contests, 2 Workshops and an
Exhibition. And a lot more events are planned in the near future.

We are thankful to all the newspapers for publishing our press releases
every time we have had an event and a special thanks to Christina Viegas
(Navhind Times, Oct 24) for the article “A Photographer’s Sure Muse” and
Janice Rodrigues (Herald, Nov 7) for the “Capturing the UNSEEN” article.
 And the 75 Goan Shutterbugs from across Goa who have joined us during the
photo walks / shoots.

This Sunday, 22nd Nov, we will be having our first photo walk in Panjim, 4pm
onwards, so kindly pencil the date on your calendar. Details will be posted
soon.

Happy Clicking……Smile Please!!!
Gbug




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Goan Shutterbugs can be found online on : *

Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/groups/goanshutterbugs/

Blog: http://www.goanshutterbugs.blogspot.com

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=126576244125

Orkut: http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Community.aspx?cmm=92419201


Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans

2009-11-17 Thread Luis Dias
This message is directed at Selma Carvalho. This email thread was brought to my 
notice this morning from the USA.
 
In the message attached below Selma Carvalho says that she can "confirm" that 
the Goan who was considered "pro-Nazi" was Dr Victor Dias, who just happens to 
be my grandfather.
 
I would like to know how in the course of her "research" she came to this 
conclusion. 
 
Such a claim, on a public forum, is slander, it is calumny. 
 
I find it surprising that she made no attempt to contact any family member, to 
get a comprehensive perspective. 
 
It hurts especially as this year happens to be Dr Victor Manuel Dias' 60th 
death anniversary. We had a festival in his home Casa da Moeda (which 
incidentally once was the Goa Mint, and celebrates 175 years this year), during 
the course of which we commemorated both milestones by the release of a First 
Day Commemorative cover.
 
I would refer her to Aleixo Manuel da Costa's book 'Dicionario da Literatura 
Goesa' Vol. I pg 350 if she wishes to know who Dr Victor Manuel Dias really 
was. She can also refer to
http://victormanueldias.wordpress.com/, where I am in the process of 
cataloguing his life history, his achievements. 
 
I would also like to know what Selma means when she says she "will not say" 
under what circumstances Dr Dias was allegedly suspended from a Margao 
"Hostipal" (sic). Which Dr Dias? And please quote sources. Our family has 
nothing to hide.
 
In the absence of objective proof, she cannot make such a libellous remark. If 
she has such objective proof, she should furnish it. 
 
Best wishes,
 
Dr Luis Dias
Casa da Moeda
Near Head Post Office
Panaji-Goa 403001 INDIA
2224642, 9011051950.


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[Goanet] Goanet highlights: Veterans' Day and possible Goan links... (summary by Selma Carvalho)

2009-11-17 Thread Goanet News
Goanet highlights by Selma Carvalho
se...@goanet.org

Last week marked Remembrance Day or Veteran's Day as it is
known set aside to commemorate those who lost their lives
during World War II. An interesting discussion on Goanet this
week dealt with the issue of Goan lives lost during this
war. Most of these young men were tarvottis working on
British Navy ships. Their names have been recorded on the
Commonwealth memorial website. Here are some insights shared
by Goanetters.

Michael Ali:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185714.html

Selma Carvalho:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185745.html

This lead to a discussion about whether any Goans had fought
on the side of the Axis powers, such as Germany or Italy.
Here are some fascinating bits of information revealed.

Mervyn Lobo:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185822.html

Which finally veered into an informative romp around Goa
circa 1940s. Portugal was neutral through World War II.
Around 1943 three German ships sought safe harbour in Goa
precisely because of Portugal's neutrality. This lead to an
intriguing episode of espionage, burning of ships and
sheltering of German sailors, some of whom later settled in
Goa and married Goan women. Here are some posts shedding
light on the matter.

Valmiki Faleiro:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185850.html

Bosco De Mello:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185877.html

Selma Carvalho:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185876.html

Another interesting discussion began with a post called
"Let's face it". Does the English language reign supreme
across the world? Does this language open up doors in the
commercial and corporate world rendering all other language
defunct. How do we preserve our own languages such as Konkani
in the face of this onslaught?

A letter from Bennet Paes on this matter:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185901.html

I.Nunes
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185922.html

Floriano Lobo:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185967.html

And Freddy Fernandes tells us why love for Goa and Konkani is
synonymous:
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185693.html

Journalist Frederick Noronha released his book this week
titled, Another Goa. It is a collection of his favourite
writing on Goa.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185764.html

Freddy Fernandes wonders whether we are becoming too cynical
towards politics.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/186004.html

Frederick Noronha writes about Alda Figueiredo, currently
planning a Goan cookery book, and the Goan love of food which
binds them in the Diaspora.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185993.html

Lionel Messias takes a look at SEZs, flying circuses and
those promises politicians make about employing Goans in Goa.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185957.html

Selma Carvalho writes about the kasti and cabaia in her
column this week.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185947.html

Dominic Fernandes writes about the caterers of yore who
served weddings and special functions.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185904.html

Rajan Parrikar provides some breathtaking photographs of Goan
blue and white azulejos, tiles.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185905.html

Lino Dourado gives us his Aitaracheo Katkutleo: Pavs Nam!
Raincoat Kiteak?
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185886.html

And Valmiki Faleiro continues in his series about Goa's
choked roads.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-November/185879.html


Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans

2009-11-17 Thread Carvalho


--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Luis Dias  wrote:

 
> In the absence of objective proof, she cannot make such a
> libellous remark. If she has such objective proof, she
> should furnish it. 
>  
> Best wishes,
>  
> Dr Luis Dias
-
Dear Dr Luis,
I'm sorry to have offended your sensibilities but by now I am quite used to 
people popping up from history books and demanding apologies from me, so I too 
have taken legal advice in this matter. Firstly I have not called anyone Nazi 
or anti-Nazi. I have said he was considered "pro-Nazi" by the British. If you 
wish to confirm this for yourself you may check the National Archives at Kew, 
Richmond, UK. Incidentally I have a copy of the letter in my own stack of 
documents and I will be more than happy to email it you in private. 

I have no intention of hurting anyone, living or passed away in Goa. I am 
merely reporting facts as they are recorded in dusty museums and archives.

Best,
selma





[Goanet] The Human Voyage, on PBS.ORG.

2009-11-17 Thread eric pinto
"Becoming Human" is a very absorbing documentary on human evolution. It is 
available at PBS.ORG.  Click on NOVA for the selection of recent topics.  BH 
was produced in three installments, you have to click on #3 to access 1 and 
2. The study combines several fields of science, and the revelations do startle.
   Our human narrative makes for humbling submission to ideas that may will 
still confound many: I hope it provides food for thought to the nanosphere Goan 
who deems India too confining for his aspirations. Our horizons could extend 
beyond Assolna, or America.





[Goanet] Loss of Bow and Arrow

2009-11-17 Thread Joel Moraes
Days are gone of the Bow and Arrow,now there is something what is called as 
sophisticated weapons like AK 47 etc.Bow and Arrow,the lathis of Mumbai Police 
lost miserably during the recent terrorist attack on Mumbai last year.The 
daring attack of the NSG commandos saved Mumbai from the hands of Terrorists.
Jai Bharat!
 
Joel Morais
Viva Goa!
Viva Goemkar!





[Goanet] Septic tanks on the coastline...

2009-11-17 Thread Frederick Noronha
Was just wondering about this: could anyone tell me why septic tanks
are considered risky along the Goan coastline? Is it because of the
nature of the soil there, the overuse of these disposal systems, or
some other reason? Are septic tanks looked on favourably in other
parts of the globe? Maybe someone with a sanitation engineering
background could offer some insights. Thanks! FN
-- 
Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490
ANOTHER GOA: http://openlibrary.org/b/OL23851672M/Another_Goa


Re: [Goanet] World War II German presence in Goa

2009-11-17 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:45:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Santosh Helekar 

Actually, Marshall agreed with the Noronha plan even though his was different. 
Nobody agreed with Marshall.

Mario adds:

Good point.  Since even Marshall disagreed with Marshall it was kind of hard to 
agree with Marshall:-))

What I found fascinating is how this discussion morphed from a tribute to Goan 
veterans to a brazen attempt to revise history to a studious discussion of 
German ships in Mormugoa harbor and German watchmakers in Panjim, thus sweeping 
the distortion of history under the rug:-))

Reminded me of how Fred and Samir swept the latter's irrational attack on 
Isabella under the rug by suddenly shifting the discussion to something quite 
unrelated to the original thread:-))



[Goanet] Bangladesh... and Mascarenhas

2009-11-17 Thread Frederick Noronha
News from Dhaka just in this week: OPENQUOTE Bangladeshi authorities
have stepped up security in the capital ahead of a court verdict
expected this week over the murder of the country's founding president
more than three decades ago. CLOSEQUOTE

Some of our generation would recall the tragic events that lead to the
creation of Bangladesh, and the assassination of Mujib.

Interesting, a Goan-origin person, the then Pakistan-based journalist
Anthony Mascarenhas, was considered as the hero of reporting on
Bangladesh. For instance,
http://www.naderlibrary.com/lit.trialhenrykiss.4.htm describes
Mascarenhas as "the journalistic hero of the Bangladesh war".

It also points out that the Bangladesh genocide of 1971 was first
broken by Mascarenhas: "Other reports, since amply vindicated, were
supplied to the London Times and Sunday Times by the courageous
reporter Anthony Mascarhenas, and flashed around a horrified world."

While travelling through Dhaka in the past, I ran into one of
Mascarenhas' books and picked it up eagerly. His was a gripping
account of what happpened on those very streets a generation ago.

But while I didn't put the book down till reaching back home, what was
hard to believe was that half a dozen Majors would undertake the job
of assassinating their president on their own. I guess it could remain
a "Who killed JFK" kind of controversy for our part of the globe, viz.
South Asia. Interested in hearing other points of view on this. FN
-- 
Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490
ANOTHER GOA: http://openlibrary.org/b/OL23851672M/Another_Goa


[Goanet] India puts nuclear plants on alert

2009-11-17 Thread Mario Goveia
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSDEL381613

Excerpt:

India has put its nuclear power plants under alert and tightened security 
around them after intelligence about possible attacks, a report said on Monday.

The step comes after a man arrested in the United States on charges of plotting 
attacks in India was found to have travelled to Indian states that have nuclear 
installations.
[end of excerpt]


[Goanet] Goa news for November 18, 2009

2009-11-17 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Six trawlers, 50 Goan fishermen missing in cyclone -
Thaindian.com
irst-cyclonic-storm-to-reach-Mumbai-in-43-years/articleshow/5220913.cms&usg=AFQjCNFrPNOBOzpWSEAe0WL4BEkZGx6-hg">Phyan,
first cyclonic storm to reach Mumbai in 43 years
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/six-trawlers-50-goan-fishermen-missing-in-cyclone_100273951.html&usg=AFQjCNHOTkr7r0TgqIDKuvOsC1SPfYPSCw

*** When Phyan left them to face an ordeal at sea - Herald
Publications
ishermen-still-missing-after-cyclone-phyan-goa-chief-minister_100274210.html&usg=AFQjCNEUQHHkmb46Ba1wSS4jt6Yyg_pPpQ">68
fishermen still missing after Cyclone Phyan: Goa chief minister
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=29911&cid=2&usg=AFQjCNGc-d2h97bIVpRPOyWd8OsuppKXxA

*** Sanatan Sanstha is threat to nation: Goa home minister -
Hindustan Times
ve blast in Goa, is a threat to the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/goa/Sanatan-Sanstha-is-threat-to-nation-Goa-home-minister/Article1-475918.aspx&usg=AFQjCNFLdYjU7wO9unVxwzp6EKD4sZCM6A

*** Over 750 Tamil Nadu, Goa fishermen feared drowned - Daily
News & Analysis
adu-government-assures-safety-of-fishermen_100274487.html&usg=AFQjCNFOZhV9xon_myRr07NaGoi_LVCS5w">Tamil
Nadu government assures safety of fishermen
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_over-750-tamil-nadu-goa-fishermen-feared-drowned_1311360&usg=AFQjCNFfTJzeTQXT4vIWuJO184kmqfTXpA

*** UK cautions citizens on travel to Goa - Times of India
ffice-advises-against-travel-to-goa-5634552.html&usg=AFQjCNGjyGWT4NqyVxjqYTWZ4J6i_Yo_rw">Foreign
Office advises against travel to Goa
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/UK-cautions-citizens-on-travel-to-Goa/articleshow/5224405.cms&usg=AFQjCNGC4uw-Wbx5pisPS2Bdy-HY5O24aQ

*** Goa-Assam match ends in tame draw - Press Trust of India
ssam_share_one_point_each_in_drawn_Ranji_tie__N30069.html&usg=AFQjCNGn51YLqLeHwgH0c1bYlzprtfYQsg">Goa-Assam
share one point each in drawn Ranji tie
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.ptinews.com/news/376101_Goa-Assam-match-ends-in-tame-draw&usg=AFQjCNGzcMPf6Q10BZ7ttJ5LXJ7lmEE4Ag

*** Four senior Goa cops create stir aboard offshore casino -
Thaindian.com
aindian.comPanaji, Nov 13 (IANS) The Goa police department was
left red faced after four Superintendents of Police (SP) and
three other senior police officials created ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/four-senior-goa-cops-create-stir-aboard-offshore-casino_100274473.html&usg=AFQjCNGaXYIDWX7HneWmItN5Jcmuid-MKA

*** Four More Players Called To The National Camp In Goa -
Goal.com
3 side starting from the 15th of this month. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/2696/indian-national-team/2009/11/13/1622423/four-more-players-called-to-the-national-camps-in-goa&usg=AFQjCNFs7MSJDpLbSeHgOldRlTwZ4VE-KQ

*** Goa security drive: 32 vital installations mapped - Times
of India
mes of IndiaMARGAO: With a heightened security alert this year
and caution from the Centre to all states,Goa too is gearing up
to cordon major installations by drawing ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-security-drive-32-vital-installations-mapped/articleshow/5224415.cms&usg=AFQjCNELeYiGFBSxvUJ5DrXsQP6H2Zz_dw

*** Goa EDC to provide financial aid against immovable property
- Times of India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: For the first time, the Goa Economic
Development corporation (EDC) will extend financial assistance
against the mortgage of immovable property. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-EDC-to-provide-financial-aid-against-immovable-property/articleshow/5224401.cms&usg=AFQjCNHeH8Ha8_K97qWOUML_nzdrUptkXQ


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


Re: [Goanet] Septic tanks on the coastline...

2009-11-17 Thread Bosco D
-Original Message-
From: Frederick Noronha

> Was just wondering about this: could anyone tell me why septic tanks
> are considered risky along the Goan coastline?

RESPONSE: Perhaps the threat of E-coli [1] in water and sand.
Probably gets worse in warmer temps.

- B


[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli




[Goanet] The bhatkarponn of Goan forums

2009-11-17 Thread Carvalho
There were in the Goa of yore a few Catholic families who no doubt occupied 
positions of power and privilege pre-1961. This sense of entitlement was upheld 
by notions of caste, with little or possibly no regard for merit. Nonetheless, 
in time, education and economics played their part in insulating this coterie 
from the rest of Goa. Doubtless in time they solidified their positions, made 
possible by inter-marriage. In time they became almost a clan. Implacable. 
Their reputations and lifestyles, however debauched, protected by a wall of 
silence, maintained in part by loyalty, in part by fear and sadly in part 
through unfailing reverence from all those that called them bhatkar.

Those days are gone now but that sense of bhatkarponn has not died in these 
families. Over the course of the four years I have been on Goan forums, I have 
come across it again and again. Yes, to a large extent caste is defunct in Goan 
society but it is not dead. It is merely dressed in a more egalitarian garb. 

In my four years on Goan forums, ultimately it is the Gulfkars, the tarvottis, 
the Afrikars, the tiartrists who have taken me to their hearts. Perhaps in a 
very small way, I have become their voice because I come from them, from that 
belly of Goa which grows in its villages. I know them. I can see them in my 
grandfathers, my father, my cousins and my friends. Hopefully, I will continue 
being their voice. 

The other Goa has remained closed, zip-locked with constant innuendo, here on 
Goanet and elsewhere. We Goans today are as divided as we were a few centuries 
ago. Let's not be mistaken about that. Neither education nor economics has 
fundamentally changed our way of thinking.

I've had a good run. Great fun. But I now request the moderators to change my 
listing to a digest. After four long years, I need some air to breathe.

Best,
selma


  


Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans

2009-11-17 Thread lyrawmn
Ms. Carvalho:
Have you found any similar archival material which  (conclusively ! ) found 
certain members of the the British Royal Family to be Nazi sympathizers? 
For example, it has long, and often been reported that the late Duke of Windsor 
was one.
 
Or is the National Archives selective in its archiving of material and 
documents?  
If so, how can a fair accounting of historical events be possible?
Thanks.
I. Nunes

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Carvalho  wrote:


From: Carvalho 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
To: " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list" 
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 11:48 AM




--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Luis Dias  wrote:

 
> In the absence of objective proof, she cannot make such a
> libellous remark. If she has such objective proof, she
> should furnish it. 
>  
> Best wishes,
>  
> Dr Luis Dias
-
Dear Dr Luis,
I'm sorry to have offended your sensibilities but by now I am quite used to 
people popping up from history books and demanding apologies from me, so I too 
have taken legal advice in this matter. Firstly I have not called anyone Nazi 
or anti-Nazi. I have said he was considered "pro-Nazi" by the British. If you 
wish to confirm this for yourself you may check the National Archives at Kew, 
Richmond, UK. Incidentally I have a copy of the letter in my own stack of 
documents and I will be more than happy to email it you in private. 

I have no intention of hurting anyone, living or passed away in Goa. I am 
merely reporting facts as they are recorded in dusty museums and archives.

Best,
selma









[Goanet] 4. A MILLION PRICELESS EMOTIONS CAPTURED (Goan Shutterbugs)

2009-11-17 Thread Anne Ketteringham
Thank you so very much for inviting me, a visiting photographer form France,
to the CHILDREN?S DAY - BAL MELA?09 at the Big Foot Sanskriti
Kendra, Loutolim last Sunday 15th November.  It was indeed a pleasure to
experience not just the children, but everyone enjoying the day and to
capture just a few of those million emotions myself.  We surely will meet
again to enjoy each others experiences and pleasures of capturing that
special photograph.
Best Wishes to all at "Shutterbugs"
Anne Ketteringham
(From France but I am English Born)


Re: [Goanet] A Goan lady intelligence officer for the CIA? Out in thecold: Intel agent says U.S. 'betrayed' her

2009-11-17 Thread Bosco D
-Original Message-
From: Mario Goveia

> She was one of 23 CIA agents convicted by a bogus Italian Kangaroo Court 
> which the 
> US could have done nothing about.

RESPONSE: Oh-Mar says "Goodbye Gitmo, hello Kangaroo Court"

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/725779--walkom-omar-khadr-heading-for-a-kangaroo-court


- B




Obituary � Vinod Bakaya (ex-Air India, Kuwait)

2009-11-17 Thread Goanet Obits
O B I T U A R Y

Vinod Bakaya
(ex-Air India, Kuwait)
Died: 15 Nov 2009


Photo:
http://picasaweb.google.ca/GoanetBlog/Obits#5405290499076451394


Beloved husband of Simona (nee Fernandes) Bakaya

Everloving father of Vishal and Aakash Bakaya

Loving Son-in-law of  Tony (Martin Anthony Fernandes) and Rita Fernandes

Loving brother-in-law of Vilette Jennings, Youla Thomas, Vinita Fernandes, 
Valencia 
Fernandes, Abigail Mathias and Shane Fernandes.

Passed away peacefully in Kuwait on 15th November, 2009.

Funeral will be in Delhi (Noida) on 18th November 2009.



SOURCE: http://www.q8canada.com/obituaries.htm 




Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Goan... via the stomach (Alda Figueiredo'srecipes)

2009-11-17 Thread Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
Dear Frederick,

Since Ms. Alda Figueiredo loves Goa, Goans, and Goan food so much, and has 
also 
been in and out of Goa over the years, what on earth led her to use the term 
"Goanese"? The term was applied to us disparagingly by outsiders, and as a 
teenager 
in Bombay I often heard it used by Anglo-Indians and sometimes by Goans who had 
converted to "Anglo-Indianism". Now, a century later, it is used by one of us? 
This 
passes all understanding, and perhaps Ms. Figueiredo should tell us---and she 
should 
especially tell any potential Goan publisher---what led her to do it..
Regards,
Victor




[Goanet] Goa airport expansion a pipe dream?

2009-11-17 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa airport expansion a pipe dream?
TNN 18 November 2009, 04:10am IST

PANAJI: The much vaunted expansion of Dabolim airport has failed to take off as 
scheduled. The tender floated for a new terminal as part of the expansion plan 
has 
been scrapped, Airport Authority of India (AAI) officials said on Tuesday.

“Availability of land at the identified site has been the biggest constraint,” 
an 
official, requesting anonymity, said.

He said bids had received bids for the project “but we cannot keep the tender 
on 
hold and, in turn, these companies waiting. We had to shelve it”.

The foundation stone for the project was laid in February, the official said, 
adding, “However, there are many things which occupy the identified site. An 
Air 
India hangar, a cargo complex, ramp equipment, a power house. The area is also 
under 
control of the Navy and its permission has to be obtained.”

State government sources said difference between the Navy and the AAI has held 
up 
the project. While the Navy is willing to hand over about 2.5 acres to AAI for 
the 
project, the latter has pointed out the particular spot being offered and it’s 
area 
do not meet its requirement. The Navy is unwilling to hand over the site which 
AAI 
has identified.

About 10 days back, the chief secretary had convened a meeting of both the 
parties 
and asked then to resolve the issue at the earliest.

“Around 35 airports around the country were identified for expansion and 
Dabolim was 
among them. It was the third biggest project after Chennai and Kolkata,” 
another AAI 
official said. In fact, chief minister Digambar Kamat, after inaugurating a 
seminar 
on ‘Contemporary tourism development: Issues and challenges’ organized by 
Parvatibai 
Chowgule College, Margao, on February 13 had announced that work would commence 
a 
week later.

“While the Dabolim airport will be expanded, the Mopa airport will be developed 
to 
international standards. There is a growing need to strengthen the 
infrastructure 
facilities in the tourism sector, and the government is committed to meet the 
demand,” he had said.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-airport-expansion-a-pipe-dream/articleshow/5241591.cms
 




[Goanet] Seeing Through the Potemkin State

2009-11-17 Thread Info
This article is from the blog res gestae (www.rajivndesai.blogspot.com)
you can reach the person managing the list at i...@comma.in


Monday, November 16, 2009
Seeing Through the Potemkin State

Perhaps it is about getting older. Or that the excitement has waned. 
Increasingly 
the prospect of arrival in India fills us with apprehension as the cab winds 
its 
inevitable way to JFK or Chicago’s O’Hare. For me, America is a cultural home: 
the 
food, the music, the clothes, the humor, the aesthetics, the very idiom of 
language 
is all comfortingly familiar. Driving is a pleasure; walking the streets a 
delight 
and everywhere smiles and hellos…well, maybe not that many in New York City! 
But it’s 
less about extolling America than dreading what lies in wait at Delhi or any 
other 
port of entry to India.

Within seconds of landing, the harsh reality hits you between the eyes. The 
airport 
is shoddy, grimy and smelly. To exit is to confront a menacing crowd of people, 
straining at the barricades: vast numbers of drivers pushing and shoving; 
swarms of 
noisy families come to receive their near and dear ones; and various other 
categories teeming around the crumbling arrival terminal. True, such crowds 
gather 
at arrival terminals everywhere in the world but at Indian airports it adds 
another 
dimension to the chaos that reigns supreme.

Step outside and it is quickly evident there is no system to smooth the way for 
arriving passengers. You are left on your own to dodge honking and swerving 
cars 
torturing the driveway; and everywhere, smoke and fumes and rubble.

However, if you are an anointed “VIP,” as India’s public servants are called, 
you 
are whisked away through a plush private terminal to a private parking lot and 
into 
your car, all within minutes. Public servants don’t even wait for their bags; 
there 
are flunkies to retrieve them and deliver them to your house along the VIP 
route 
into Lutyens Delhi of the smooth, wide, tree-lined boulevards with flowering 
rotaries, manicured parks and expansive villas.

In stark contrast, the taxpaying citizen has to endure subhuman conditions in 
the 
terminal and bump along cratered tracks that pass for roads and deal with 
seriously 
demented drivers who whiz through the non-VIP parts of the capital as if 
possessed 
by demons. It is apparent that you have landed in one of the world’s least 
developed 
countries: Incredible India!

You get angry at the rank disparity. In America, things work smoothly for 
ordinary 
citizens. Yes, the economy is flagging and people are finding it tough to get 
or 
hold on to jobs. But the cities and communities are pleasant and there is a 
heady 
rush of egalitarianism in the very air. The entire political and bureaucratic 
setup 
in America is geared single-mindedly to the welfare of citizens. The accent on 
public service is pronounced and evident.

In India, you can have a top job or a fortune as a businessman but unless you 
are in 
the VIP zone of the cities and towns, you may not have reliable electric power, 
adequate water supply and any sanitation at all. Those who can afford it make 
their 
private arrangements; the rest suffer. Just in recent days, when it rained 
consecutively for two days, the capital was submerged. Questioned, a VIP 
dismissed 
the water logging and the traffic jams as an act of nature, a result of the 
heavy 
rains; he seemed criminally unaware of the problems people faced getting around 
the 
city. In his Lutyens Delhi, there is no flooding, light traffic and your 
workplace 
is but a pleasant drive of a few minutes.

This disparate order makes the chaos of India not just irksome but menacing. It 
is 
as though the system milks the ordinary individual who has a job or business to 
provide for the VIP. The random but deadly civil disturbances that plague India 
are 
spontaneous expressions of civic anger against the system that barely makes 
room for 
the middle class, leave alone marginal groups.

In huge swathes of India, the most deprived people have fallen sway to Maoist 
ideology and have taken to violence. No political party, not the hydra-headed 
government agencies, not the self-righteous NGOs can control them. Such civil 
violence will increase in frequency and scope as more and more citizens begin 
to see 
the disparity: not just the gap between rich and poor but between the 
privileged and 
the rest.

In the past few years, the elite have bought into the notion that India is set 
to 
emerge as a world power. Nothing belies the claim so comprehensively than the 
question mark that hangs over the staging of the Commonwealth Games next year. 
The 
controversy has shown up the Potemkin state, a cheap cardboard cutout fashioned 
by 
bureaucrats and politicians to fool themselves into believing the world power 
fantasy.

You don’t have to look too hard to see beyond the Potemkin mirage: 
dysfunctional 
highways and airports; garbage strewn cities and hapless villages; deadly 
traf

[Goanet] YWCA of Bombay - Xmas carols on 5/12/09 at 5 .30pm

2009-11-17 Thread jane gillian rodrigues
Dear E-mail Friends and Family,

Please forward. Please attend in large numbers in order to make the programme a 
success.

SANTACLAUS WILL REWARD YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS ON XMAS DAY.

== 
YWCA OF BOMBAY - MEMBERSHIP DEPARTMENT

INVITES WOMEN AND MEN OF ALL AGE-GROUPS AND ALL RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES TO -

"AN EVENING OF CAROLS"

THEME: UNIVERSAL LOVE

DATE: SATURDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2009

TIME: 5.30 PM TO 8.30PM

VENUE: YWCA OF BOMBAY, 18, MADAME CAMA ROAD, FORT, MUMBAI 400 001

PLEASE BE ON TIME.

==

If You or your Choir Group, would like to participate in the Carol Singing, you 
are requested to please give us the list of Carols you will be singing, to 
enable us to avoid any duplication in the songs.

LAST DATE FOR ENTRY FORMS FOR ALL PARTICIPANTS - 27th November 2009. 

We would appreciate if you could give us minimum two alternative songs to 
replace, in case of duplication.

Each group or individual will be allotted 7 minutes.

This programme will end, with every one singing silent night, so please do not 
include this in your selection.

Please also let us know the number of participants in your group.

Registration free.

For registration and further information and details please contact:-

Meera Colaco, Programme Secretary, YWCA of Bombay, on :- Phone Nos: 22020122, 
22833768, 22823411, 22844822

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[Goanet] AIDS, TB top killers by '50: Study

2009-11-17 Thread Peter F. Borges
17 November 2009 PANAJI: HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, road accidents, breast cancer 
and depression have been listed among the top ten killers of Goans by 2050, as 
per a study conducted by the Goa Institute of Management (GIM) student Ashish 
Kumar. 

The study results were presented at a recent conference on 'Frugal Innovation 
in Healthcare' being held at the GIM campus in Ribandar. The conference was 
jointly organised by GIM and Xandev foundation. 

Kumar, in his presentation, said that HIV/AIDS results show that there is 
uniformity in the number of cases in both the districts and that STD 
contributes to HIV cases. "This might be due to increased contact of the local 
population with non-resident/non-Goan/tourist population. On an average 600 
persons die each year due to communicable diseases (except STDs)." 

The presentation revealed that alcoholism could also be one of the top ten 
killers by 2050. It states that according to a study by Goa branch of Voluntary 
Health Association of India, of the 800 plus persons examined 15% were exposed 
to harmful abuse of alcohol. Over 21% of industrial workers are exposed to 
hazardous alcohol consumption. 

Kumar further said that as per the revised National TB Control Programme 
estimates there are 160 cases of TB per 100,000 population in Goa. 'The 
programme, however, has failed to meet its target of detecting 70% of new 
cases. The incidence of undetected TB is particularly high in areas like 
Marcaim in Ponda taluka, where poor communities like the Gauddes are badly 
affected.' 

He said that in case of cancer, Goa estimates put rates of incidence of breast 
cancer at 35 per 1,00,000 population which is more than four times the national 
average of eight per 1,00,000, the study said. 

The presentation further said that at 4,69,106 vehicles, Goa has one of the 
highest vehicle/person average. The fatality rate from traffic accidents in Goa 
is estimated to be 170 per million persons, as against the Indian average of 
80. 

Kumar has also said that a pilot project launched in 2006 showed that 10-20% of 
patients across PHC's suffer from stress and depression. 'Studies by Sangath 
reveal that one out of five adults attending the primary health centre and one 
out of four mothers attending the NGOs centre suffer from alcohol abuse, which 
is the single most important cause of depression in Goa'. Cardiovascular 
diseases and anemia are also said to be high among the Goan population as per 
the study. 

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/AIDS-TB-top-killers-by-50-Study/articleshow/5237393.cms


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[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (18Nov09)

2009-11-17 Thread alexyz fernandes
***   P. Sainath on National Press Day  ***

"Poverty of thought for the Poor"

"70% of India is Poor...yet we don't have any Poverty Correspondents!"

"Why?"


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Re: [Goanet] Release of Another Goa (Margao, Monday, Nov 16, 2009)

2009-11-17 Thread Claire Theresa Antao
Dear Mr. Noronha,

Congratulations on your Book release!
Waiting to read it and supply you with some more feedback.

Have a lovely day:)

Claire. 




[Goanet] Kovita - Ganvchem Fest

2009-11-17 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Ganvchem Fest

 

Saad Muzgamcho, ghonghon fozneacho,

Porzollo fantho Festa disacho

Ghorcho lok umetin utun kuznank ghatlo veddo

Festache umeticho zorro kuznantleanuch funtlo

 

Tandull, chunrek ghalun sur, rog'dear marlo doldollo,

Sann'a borobor, veldur ani sorpatelacho zum zum suntlo,

Taktikean randun ginssam-var jevon korun thoir,

Kuznatlim soglim monx'eam zallim voiar

 

Fer marun suttak, sadieank ani ropak,

Jeanot nesun bahir sorle, vosunk misak

Boxieant ghalun poixe, festachem ful lailem buzak,

Igorgeant sorun bithor, fest-porberchi zali survat

 

Mis zatoch urbean pursanvant gheavun vanto

Sogleani vadoilo sontos Festache porbecho,

Ektaien kermesant, housieant  divun thenko

Festachim porbim vantun ximpdailo pormoll ekcharacho

 

Ruchichem jevon khann  mandun mezar,

Soiream-dhairerani vanto ghetlo, Devache atovun upkar

Sorean, servejin than bagoili khuxhall'kayechea nadar

Khavun jevun sangata  dadoxi zalo purai porivar

 

Ferieant, kadi bodi, ghorom chonne khavun, 

Dadoxi  zalim lhan-vhoddam,  sabar Khell khellun

  Festache umetin soglimch hanstin tondam ganvank

Ganvcho ekvotak polloun sontos bogta jivak 

 

Festachim ononit probim Navelimchea soggot  lokak

 

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] Preserve Goan culture, identity: Eduardo

2009-11-17 Thread Goanet News Service
Preserve Goan culture, identity: Eduardo
TNN 18 November 2009, 03:50am IST

Commissioner of NRI affairs Eduardo Faleiro highlighted the importance of 
preserving 
the culture and identity of Goa. He was speaking at the Bal Mela organized by 
Jan 
Ugahi and Big Foot Trust at Loutolim. Faleiro also said that "in the present 
century, the deterioration of global environment poses a serious threat to the 
future generations'. Around 800 children from weaker sections of society 
participated in the mela.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Preserve-Goan-culture-identity-Eduardo/articleshow/5241562.cms
 




Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Goan... via the stomach (Alda Figueiredo'srecipes)

2009-11-17 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
 Victor Rangel-Ribeiro  wrote:  Ms. Alda
Figueiredo  what on earth led her to use the term "Goanese"?
The term was applied to us disparagingly by outsiders Now, a
century later, it is used by one of us?



COMMENT:  for what it is worth from 2002

Two well known websites, Chitpawan & NewAdvent agree to replace the
alleged word "Goanese" with the word "Goan"
http://www.colaco.net/1/GoaNiz.htm

jc


Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans

2009-11-17 Thread Luis Dias
Dear Selma,

Thank you for your public response.

You have ignored the bulk of my post, for reasons best known to you, and 
responded, and inadequately at that, to the last few lines of it:

1. You have not mentioned why you didn't consult any family member of Dr Victor 
Manuel Dias. Our family is fairly well-known here, so it shouldn't have been a 
difficult task. Your colleagues on Goanet could have pointed you in our 
direction.

Wouldn't this have been a more logical, more scholarly approach? Rather than 
referring to just one document in a "dusty museum" in Kew?

If you have contacted the extended family of Dr Victor Dias, who are they?

2. You haven't responded to your veiled hint on how you "will not say" anything 
about the alleged suspension of Dr Dias (Victor? Antonio? you do not clarify) 
at a Margao hostipal (sic). Why not? 

As I said before, our family has nothing to hide.

If it is Dr Antonio Dias that is being referred to, was it really necessary to 
bring up his alleged suspension in this thread? This thread was about Goan 
veterans.

In any case, I would like you to furnish your source for this as well.

As a family member, I wish to know this, before it is trotted out as "fact" in 
this book you are supposedly writing. 

3. While you make a token apology at the start, the rest of your response 
doesn't sound apologetic at all. 

I have not "popped up from history books". There was really no need for sarcasm 
here. 

I am flesh and blood, very much in this world, and knocked sideways by this 
unnecessary bolt from the blue. Does the fact that you have legal advice 
somehow make this any better? What about the hurt caused not only to me, but to 
the rest of my family, and other families like me, when such half-baked 
"research" is paraded publicly?
 
4. In your original post, you merely said ..."was considered pro-Nazi in Goa". 

The British considered anyone who ran counter to their interests as an "enemy 
agent". This is hardly the same thing as being "pro-Nazi". 

5. I would like to see this document, which you have so kindly offered to 
furnish, in response to my post. 

Whether you do this privately or publicly is irrelevant. As I said before, our 
family has nothing to hide.

6. Since you have alluded so forthrightly to your legal advice, perhaps you 
could mention your postal address and other contact details too. I have 
mentioned mine.

I look forward to your response.

Best wishes,

Luis 

Dr Luis Dias
Casa da Moeda
Near Head Post Office
Panaji-Goa 403001
INDIA
2224642
9011051950




> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:55:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Luis Dias 
> To: goa...@goanet.org
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
> Message-ID: <947649.93107...@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> This message is directed at Selma Carvalho. This email
> thread was brought to my notice this morning from the USA.
> ?
> In the message attached below Selma Carvalho says that she
> can "confirm" that the Goan who was considered
> "pro-Nazi" was Dr Victor Dias, who just happens to
> be my grandfather.
> ?
> I would like to know how in the course of her
> "research" she came to this conclusion. 
> ?
> Such a claim, on a public forum, is slander, it is calumny.
> 
> ?
> I find it surprising that she made no attempt to contact
> any family member, to get a comprehensive perspective. 
> ?
> It hurts especially as this year happens to be Dr Victor
> Manuel Dias' 60th death anniversary. We had a festival
> in his home Casa da Moeda (which incidentally once was the
> Goa Mint, and celebrates 175 years
>  this year), during the course of which we commemorated
> both milestones by the release of a First Day Commemorative
> cover.
> ?
> I would refer her to Aleixo Manuel da Costa's book
> 'Dicionario da Literatura Goesa' Vol. I pg 350 if
> she wishes to know who Dr Victor Manuel Dias really was. She
> can also refer to
> http://victormanueldias.wordpress.com/,
> where I am in the process of cataloguing his life history,
> his achievements. 
> ?
> I would also like to know what Selma means when she says
> she "will not say" under what circumstances Dr
> Dias was allegedly suspended from a Margao
> "Hostipal" (sic). Which Dr Dias? And please quote
> sources. Our family has nothing to hide.
> ?
> In the absence of objective proof, she cannot make such a
> libellous remark. If she has such objective proof, she
> should furnish it. 
> ?
> Best wishes,
> ?
> Dr Luis Dias
> Casa da Moeda
> Near Head Post
>  Office
> Panaji-Goa 403001 INDIA
> 2224642, 9011051950.
> 

> 
> 
>       
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:48:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: Carvalho 
> To: " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing
> list"
>     
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
> Message-ID: <877553.35351...@web33003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Luis Dias 
> wrote:
> 
> ?
> > In the absenc

Re: [Goanet] AIDS, TB top killers by '50: Study

2009-11-17 Thread Santosh Helekar
What kind of study is this? Is he simply extrapolating over the next 40 years 
from current rates? No mortality rates have been given for AIDS, Tuberculosis, 
breast cancer and depression, even though he claims they will be the biggest 
killers in 2050. Does he assume that the mortality rate will rise at the same 
extrapolated rate as the incidence? How does he assume people will people die 
from depression? By suicide? Or does he assume that majority of them are 
alcoholics who will die from consequences of cirrhosis of liver?

Strange conclusions!

Cheers,

Santosh

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Peter F. Borges  wrote:
>
> 17 November 2009 PANAJI: HIV/AIDS,
> tuberculosis, road accidents, breast cancer and depression
> have been listed among the top ten killers of Goans by 2050,
> as per a study conducted by the Goa Institute of Management
> (GIM) student Ashish Kumar. 
> 
> The study results were presented at a recent conference on
> 'Frugal Innovation in Healthcare' being held at the GIM
> campus in Ribandar. The conference was jointly organised by
> GIM and Xandev foundation. 
> 
> Kumar, in his presentation, said that HIV/AIDS results show
> that there is uniformity in the number of cases in both the
> districts and that STD contributes to HIV cases. "This might
> be due to increased contact of the local population with
> non-resident/non-Goan/tourist population. On an average 600
> persons die each year due to communicable diseases (except
> STDs)." 
> 
> The presentation revealed that alcoholism could also be one
> of the top ten killers by 2050. It states that according to
> a study by Goa branch of Voluntary Health Association of
> India, of the 800 plus persons examined 15% were exposed to
> harmful abuse of alcohol. Over 21% of industrial workers are
> exposed to hazardous alcohol consumption. 
> 
> Kumar further said that as per the revised National TB
> Control Programme estimates there are 160 cases of TB per
> 100,000 population in Goa. 'The programme, however, has
> failed to meet its target of detecting 70% of new cases. The
> incidence of undetected TB is particularly high in areas
> like Marcaim in Ponda taluka, where poor communities like
> the Gauddes are badly affected.' 
> 
> He said that in case of cancer, Goa estimates put rates of
> incidence of breast cancer at 35 per 1,00,000 population
> which is more than four times the national average of eight
> per 1,00,000, the study said. 
> 
> The presentation further said that at 4,69,106 vehicles,
> Goa has one of the highest vehicle/person average. The
> fatality rate from traffic accidents in Goa is estimated to
> be 170 per million persons, as against the Indian average of
> 80. 
> 
> Kumar has also said that a pilot project launched in 2006
> showed that 10-20% of patients across PHC's suffer from
> stress and depression. 'Studies by Sangath reveal that one
> out of five adults attending the primary health centre and
> one out of four mothers attending the NGOs centre suffer
> from alcohol abuse, which is the single most important cause
> of depression in Goa'. Cardiovascular diseases and anemia
> are also said to be high among the Goan population as per
> the study. 





Re: [Goanet] Mr. Lisboa, the stray dog-shooter h ired by the BMC‏

2009-11-17 Thread Domnic Fernandes





I am talking about Mr. Lisboa of the 1950s!

 

Domnic Fernandes

Anjuna, Goa

 

I remember Letho from Mapusa Municipality shooting stray dogs and taking a 
piece of dog tail as
proof of his efforts to collect his wages. ~Avelino

 

  
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[Goanet] Preserve the Culture and Identity of Goa, says, NRI Commissioner Eduardo Faleiro

2009-11-17 Thread Freddy Fernandes
Preserve the Culture and Identity of Goa, says, NRI Commissioner Eduardo
Faleiro.

 

"Commissioner of NRI affairs Eduardo Faleiro highlighted the importance of
preserving the culture and identity of Goa. He was speaking at the Bal Mela
organized by Jan Ugahi and Big Foot Trust at Loutolim. Faleiro also said that
"in the present century, the deterioration of global environment poses a serious
threat to the future generations'. Around 800 children from weaker sections of
society participated in the mela"

 

After decades in politics this is the first time I have heard Mr. Faleiro talk
some sense at last, there might not be any concrete action coming out of the 4th
Global Goan Convention in Oman, and a lot of people too had said that nothing
good is going to happen and it's just a total waste of public money, but the hot
topic of preserving Goan Culture and It's Identity at the convention must have
got through into Mr. Faleiro. Hope this contagion does not cure it's self half
way into it's treatment. 

 

Mr. Faleiro, in the position that he was in the Congress Party, could have done
a lot for Goa, but what has he achieved in over three decades in Delhi, except
may be part in the statehood process, overall he has been a failure. Last couple
of years Goa has seen so much turmoil due to mega housing and mining but we did
not hear anything from Mr. Faleiro. 

 

A couple of months back, he did open his mouth, but unfortunately bit his own
tongue in the process, when he made a statement that, Government should take
over the running of Church properties. Goa has infinite number of issues that
are much more important, which need immediate attention and all that Mr. Faleiro
could think of was protecting Church properties and that too from the clergy. It
is agreed that there have been some discrepancies on the part of the clergy but
has the Government done any better for us to put our faith and belief in them
rather than our clergy ?  Is there any Cummunidade property left in Goa ? What
has the Government done with the Lakhs of Sq meters of land that were acquired ?
Land scams involving Government officials and politicians in Goa, out number any
other scams, and all that Mr. Faleiro could think off was, ask the tiger to
guard the goat.

 

Mr Faleiro also talks of global environment concern, when his own government has
done nothing, absolutely nothing to protect and preserve our ecology and our
environment in Goa, on the contrary Congress Government in Goa has been
supporting rampant mining, hill cutting and land filling, which has contributed
to the devastation of our ecology and our environment. If Mr. Faleiro is serious
about his newly acquired concern to protect Goan Culture, it's Identity and it's
environment, please show it in actions not just words. 

 

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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