[Goanet] Daily Grook #571
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Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
Dear Mr Luis, My apology would have been a lot more sincere if your tone had not been so accusatory. Rest assured your family is not included in anything I am writing. I am sorry I mentioned the suspension. Yes, I agree that this was irrelevant to the discussion at hand. I'm sure you will agree that a great many public figures are discussed on Goanet all the time. It is not done with spite or malice. It is just done in the flow of the discussion. I do apologise for causing you and your family hurt but I fail to understand where this hurt stems from? Isn't it more important to know the truth about our historical past rather than hide behind hurt? I can surely email you the letters in my possession but can you tell me who instigated you all the way from the USA? This has caused me tremendous hurt. Best, selma --- On Wed, 11/18/09, Luis Dias diasfl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Luis Dias diasfl...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Goan veterans To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org, se...@goanet.org, elisabeth_...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 12:15 AM Dear Selma,
[Goanet] Walk on 19th Nov' 2009 at 3.30 from Kala Academy to Azad Maidan to mark International Day Against Child Abuse.
INVITATION Respected Sir/M'am SCAN-India(a project of EL-SHADDAI) is organizing a walk on 19th Nov' 2009 at 3.30 p.m from Kala Academy to Azad Maidan to mark International Day Against Child Abuse .The main purpose is to raise awareness about issues related to child abuse and to promote their welfare among the masses. We would look forward to having your presence for the same. Regards, SCAN-India -- Address: Stop Child Abuse Now (SCAN-India) 219 La Campala Opposite Hotel El-Passo Campal, Panaji Goa 403001 Tel No:- 0832-2461068 09225907100 / 200 web: www.scanindia.in
[Goanet] BOOK RELEASE: Apostolic Chris-tianity in Goa and the West Coast
Book Answers Questions on Pre-Portuguese Christianity in Goa Written by NT Network Tuesday, 17 November 2009 01:38 The new book, Apostolic Chris-tianity in Goa and the West Coast was recently released during the novena of Venerated Father Agnelo at Pilar. This work is not only historical but has spiritual dimensions, stated Professor and Head, Department of Philosophy and Dean of Faculty of Social Sciences at the Goa University, Dr A V Afonso on the occasion. Affirming that this booking is a path breaking study he further said that this book is a must-read by historians as well as lay people. The book is the fruit of a strenuous research of Father Cosme Jose Costa who discovered the St Thomas Cross in the village of Agasaim bore the Pahlavi script of the 7th century AD providing evidence that Christianity existed in Goa and the West Coast of India long before the arrival of the Portuguese in 1510. Against the common misconception that Christianity was introduced in Goa by the Portuguese, the pages of this book will take the reader to trace the presence of Christianity in Goa most probably from apostolic times. This is a period when Christianity was brought to India, immediately after its birth and even before its spread to other parts of the then known world, including Europe and even Rome. This research work also helps to understand the ancient roots of Goa, with the background of the millennial history of India, its contacts with the West, the ancient trade routes, the rulers and dynasties and all that led to the development of the complex Indian civilization, to which the Konkan was part. Dr A V Alponso, besides teaching Philosophy at the Goa University, CPIR has also taught at the University of Mumbai and other colleges that run under the Mumbai University for over three decades. Of late, he has edited a very comprehensive volume on Indian Christianity for the Centre for Studies in Civilizations, New Delhi, under their project of History of Indian Science, Philosophy and Culture, a project sponsored by the Government of India. The author is a member of the Society of the Missionaries of St Francis Xavier (Society of Pilar), and Professor of History of the World and of the Church at the All India Mission Seminary, Pilar. He has set up the Pilar Seminary Museum which projects the 2, 000-year-old history of the place. He has also written several books and contributed several research articles at history seminars and periodicals. Life and Achievements of Bl Joseph Vaz, A Missiological Conflict between Padroado and Propaganda in the East and Heritage of Govapuri are his other important publications. http://www.navhindtimes.in/buzz/5197-book-answers-questions-on-pre-portuguese-christianity-in-goa
[Goanet] Fw: GOA Toronto - Fall Pulse Newsletter 2009
The Global Goans ! Goemkars ! GOA Toronto , Canada Linking you to the Goan Community Fall Pulse Newsletter 2009 === ! ** Since we all acknowledge that the one day celebration is not enough to promote and remember our culture, we need to all do our part in finding other ways throughout the year to achieve this goal. *writes Oscar Furtado. More : The Pulse Newsletter , please see the online version - Pulse Newsletter (pdf) http://www.goatoronto.com/images/stories/pulse/pulse-fall-2009.pdf Voice of the Goan Diaspora http://globalgoanassociations.blogspot.com/2009/11/goa-toornto-canada.html Celebrate being a GOAN 365 days of the year ! renebarreto WORLD ALLIANCE OF GOAN ASSOCIATIONS GOANWORLD http://worldgoan.blogspot.com Let's not work in isolation - but together , don 't just say it - let's JUST DO IT ! Be GOOD Goan Leaders - people see what we do , not listen to what we say. RB =
Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
Dear Dr Dias, I do not want to engage in a public mudslinging match. That is not doing any good to either of our reputations. This is my last post on the matter so let me quickly make my points. 1. You burst onto Goanet and use words such as slander and libel. To slander is to lie, perpetuate a falsity with malice. I have done no such thing. This is unjust to my own reputation. I have stated a historical fact that your grandfather was under minor surveillance by the British counsel. You or anyone else who wishes to verify this fact, may go to the National Archives in Kew, Richmond, UK and do so. In good faith, I give you the file no. FO 371/31136. Everything I have stated is sourced from this file. Incidentally I was not doing any research on your family. I chanced upon it whilst researching something else more than a year ago. I just stated it on Goanet because it was relevant to the discussion we were having at the time. 2. Are you entirely sure that your grandfather would want you to defend him in such a manner? It seems to me that your grandfather was a courageous and daring man and fully invested in his own political convictions. Why are you now denying him his courage? How courageous this man was to go against commonly held views and pursue his own path in life, keep his own company. I wonder if he knew that he was being watched but even if he did, I doubt he would have cared little. Don't do this to your grandfather's memory. 3. I don't understand what significance my postal address has to you? Unless there is a thinly disguised threat in there somewhere. Surely you don't want to be seen threatening another Goan on a public forum into silence just because something is disagreeable to you. Recently we had the speaker of the assembly threatening a writer in Goa into silence. It seems that we Goans are losing more and more of our freedom every day. If you wish any more assistance from my side in unearthing archived information, I shall be happy to help in whatever capacity I can but please do contact me in private. Best, Selma --- On Wed, 11/18/09, Luis Dias diasfl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Luis Dias diasfl...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Goan veterans To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org, se...@goanet.org, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 2:42 AM Dear Selma, I accept your apology, but again the rest of your post sounds far from apologetic.
[Goanet] GOA DAY '09 – A BIG GOAN CELEBRATION IN KUWAIT
GOA DAY '09 – A BIG GOAN CELEBRATION IN KUWAIT It's finalized, it's on Friday, the 20th November 2009 at the two spacious Halls of Carmel School, Khaitan, Kuwait. Goans in large numbers will celebrate Goa Day '09. Goan Welfare Society-Kuwait, will join hands with Goan Football Clubs, Cultural and Social Associations, to dedicate themselves to friendship, unity and love of Goa. So be there and enjoy a pleasant full day programme from 11:30 a.m. to 8:30 p.m. Goan Cultural Programme and Konkani Songs Singing Competition for the children upto the age of 12 years. Win prizes at games of skill at the Sports stalls, enjoy Goan delicacies (Sanas, Sorpattel, Stew, Roast Beef, Caffreal, Xakuti, Pulau, Bebinka, Dodol, Lonchem, Goan Prawn Curry with Boiled Rice, Recheiad Mackerels and Home-Cooked Goan specialities). Enjoy Goan hospitality at its best! See your favourite Konkani Stage artistes at the Cultural Show. A complete entertaining Goa Day 2009 awaits you.
[Goanet] King Edward, Duke of Windsor.
He was a hare-brained playboy, incapable of any serious mental process, so one can rule out the accusation made: that he plotted a return to the Throne in exchange for aiding a German invasion of Britain. The canard was floated by monarchists who decided he had tarnished Royal traditions. Wallis Simpson, then his lover, was flown to Paris in the dark of night, the day they shot at her car, in a serious assassination attempt. From: lyrawmn lyra...@yahoo.com To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 9:46:50 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans Ms. Carvalho: Have you found any similar archival material which (conclusively ! ) found certain members of the the British Royal Family to be Nazi sympathizers? For example, it has long, and often been reported that the late Duke of Windsor was one. Or is the National Archives selective in its archiving of material and documents? If so, how can a fair accounting of historical events be possible? Thanks. I. Nunes --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 11:48 AM --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Luis Dias diasfl...@yahoo.com wrote: In the absence of objective proof, she cannot make such a libellous remark. If she has such objective proof, she should furnish it. Best wishes, Dr Luis Dias - Dear Dr Luis, I'm sorry to have offended your sensibilities but by now I am quite used to people popping up from history books and demanding apologies from me, so I too have taken legal advice in this matter. Firstly I have not called anyone Nazi or anti-Nazi. I have said he was considered pro-Nazi by the British. If you wish to confirm this for yourself you may check the National Archives at Kew, Richmond, UK. Incidentally I have a copy of the letter in my own stack of documents and I will be more than happy to email it you in private. I have no intention of hurting anyone, living or passed away in Goa. I am merely reporting facts as they are recorded in dusty museums and archives. Best, selma
[Goanet] In case you missed it - Ghel're ghel'lo na (what happened? Nothing dear? episode
Is the above translation correct? I have my doubts. Can someone from Salcette (Lino Dourado, Eddie Verdes, Prof. Jose Salvador Fernandes, G.R. Crasto) shed some light on this? AlmeidaG Global Goan Convention Report in Daiji World Sun Nov 8 22:11:55 PST 2009 Namaste Rabindra, Kudos to the organizers of the Global Goan Convention. From news from Oman including daijiworld we learnt that you were not present on the first day. On the second day, you left mid-way through and eclipsed from the scene with your elderly buddy in the dark. Hence, your conclusion to praise the organizers is rather a ploy for cheap publicity gimmicks as always, and does not augur well. In Konkani there is a mhunni (saying) famous all over Goa and Mangalore - meja vellem kellem kaddilem ani saggvat zoddili. I think the goanetters will understand. Anyways hope this is an eye opener to you and your Goan club as in the past not more than 30 persons attended whenever Shri Eduard Faleiro and NRI delegation visited Kuwait. I was present on two such occasions at Hotel Carlton. Please get your act done, honourably, next time. It's technology, my friend, you cannot blame us for your tell-tales. Now that the convention is over, let us see the progress of Shri Eduardo Faleiro and his team. Otherwise it could be yet another Ghel're ghel'lo na (what happened? Nothing dear? episode. With cheerful wishes and let us hear from you more. Call meCaetano Rosario +965 2 4 8 3 4 3 2 0 ++ Namaskar! Having witnessed the deliberations on 6th of November, 09, I must say, the organizers have donea wonderful job to ensure that the Global Goan Convention at Muscat, was a grand success. Kudos to you all! I am of the firm belief that, well done is better than well said; you certainlydid everything well!! Congratulations! once again, on a job well done God bless Goa and Goans With kind regards,Rabindra PimentaKuwait. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
Re: [Goanet] The hoax seems to be unraveling
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:36:01 -0500 From: MD mmdme...@gmail.com Re: President Obama's visit to China, that these two countries are responsible for a whopping 40% of GHG emissions of our world!!. Mario observes: So what, MD?? What are you suggesting? Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:10:59 +0530 From: Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com Blah, blah, blah... Mario responds: Thanks, Fred. Coming from you, that was very informative:-)) However, I think you should have more correctly said, Baa, baa, baa!
[Goanet] Goans V/S non goans
Albert writes:=Goan:- Goyemkarank goyemkar kortat doxim, Goyemkar goyemkarank galtat faxi Sorkarache kocherint dhanvdaitat hea meza tea meza sorxim Dis veta mhoine kobar zatat punn kaim zainam dilea bogor meza ponchim Non goans:- Goyeam ieun noxib amchem zalam bangar Meuleat amcam dig baba baxen goyemkar Funkot zomin, funkot ghoram, funkot ration cardam Bizli chamakta sodanch, noll vaumtat forsant Goans:- Comunidade amcam zhommin diupak pirgontat,Non goans:- Tich zomin amcam funkot meltaGoan:- Ration cardam meupak zoroichim poddtat chinelamNon goans:- Ration cardam ietat amcam bosson ghorantGoans:- Ghor bandunk kaddcheo poddtat ratiNon goans:- Ghoram bandun ditat amcam mhontriGoans:- mottam gal munn atam amchea darar ienam konNon goans:- Montreank ami posleat, tumcam volkota konn _ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop
[Goanet] {Goanet] Goans, Goanese and Goan culture
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro vrangel...@aol.com wrote: Ms. Alda Figueiredo what on earth led her to use the term Goanese? The term was applied to us disparagingly by outsiders Now, a century later, it is used by one of us? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:33:54 -0500 From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com for what it is worth from 2002 Two well known websites, Chitpawan NewAdvent agree to replace the alleged word Goanese with the word Goan http://www.colaco.net/1/GoaNiz.htm Mario observes: I always thought that those who used the bogus term Goanese were either generally ignorant or misinformed about Goans. Whenever I hear someone use the term, usually Indians from other parts of India who are not using it disparagingly, I politely correct them. Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:55:20 -0500 From: Goanet News Service n...@goanet.org Commissioner of NRI affairs Eduardo Faleiro highlighted the importance of preserving the culture and identity of Goa. He was speaking at the Bal Mela organized by Jan Ugahi and Big Foot Trust at Loutolim. Faleiro also said that in the present century, the deterioration of global environment poses a serious threat to the future generations'. Around 800 children from weaker sections of society participated in the mela. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Preserve-Goan-culture-identity-Eduardo/articleshow/5241562.cms Mario observes: I wonder which specific Goan culture Eduardo had in mind since he did not say. Neither did he say how he proposed to do so. Just a politician bloviating to fill in the time.
[Goanet] Septic tanks along the coastline.........
Let me first state that I am not a sanitation engineer or a hydraulics engineer but this is a subject that interests me greatly. Over the years, mostly in foreign countries I have observed how effluent from leaky septic tanks and soak pits make their way down to the water table and underground aquifers, contaminating the water supply of the surrounding area. This is particularly true in areas along the coastline where the soil is sandy and porous. In Goa the Health department has made it a requirement that a soak pit should be at least 15 meters from an open well. I think that a lot of factors would impact this rule of thumb including the water table in low lying areas and the type of soil prevalent in the area. The well known Springs in Merces in Tiswadi, which used to be a prominent picnic spot and a place where people used to drink the pure spring water, now bears a sign that the water is contaminated and not fit for human consumption. Could it be because of the military installation with staff quarters and their septic tanks and soak pits up-hill from the Springs ? During my working career in the USA, I was a Director of Facilities for a very large School district which spanned both urban and rural areas. Schools in the rural areas depended on bore wells for their water supply. The Health department tested the water from the bore wells every 6 months and disallowed the use of water in the rural areas, for drinking and cooking purposes because they were contaminated by sulphates and nitrates from fertilizers used by farmers upto 3 miles from the schools. If fertilzers used in distant fields seep into underground aquifers and contaminate drinking water supplies several miles away, imagine the contamination of wells from leaky septic tanks and soak pits along the congested coastal belt of Goa.
Re: [Goanet] A Goan lady intelligence officer for the CIA?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:23:49 -0500 From: Bosco D bos...@canada.com http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/725779--walkom-omar-khadr-heading-for-a-kangaroo-court Mario observes: It looks like some of Barack Obama's foreign admirers in Canada are beginning to realize that he is not that smart:-)) http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZmVjNmU5YmU3ZjYxYjNmNGRjN2E4MGExZmRlZTg2Nzc= http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=116268
Re: [Goanet] Septic tanks on the coastline...
The ground water level in coastal areas is very high. One will find water if one digs a few meters down in the sandy soil. Septic tanks work on the principle of soak pits to digest the effluents considering that the septic tank is full to the brim when commissioned and the entry of a drop of water will exit the septic tank into the soak pit. Soak pits are designed for septic tanks of a household (one or two families). More than that no soak pit can digest the output over a period of time and the effluents must leach out invariably into fresh water wells withing the range of less than 10 meters. Action of tides in the coastal belt will see that the soak pits are inundated during the high tide and drained during the low tide. This continuous action will spread the soak pit effluents including the bacteria such as e-coli further down or upwards. In the coastal belt in Goa, there is no sewerage system and entire housing and commercial establishments are based on septic tanks and soak pits. Therefore the entire coastal belt ground water is rendered un-usable as it is polluted beyond redemption. This is why the Japanese government gave Goa the GICA scheme worth of 2000 (two thousand crores) free of cost to install sewerage system for Margao, North Goa Coastal belt and Mapusa city. Mapusa Nagrikancho ekvott has managed to convince the PWD Minister (Churchill Alemao) that the sewerage system for Mapusa city is a must because the entire sewage enters the Mapusa river and has polluted it completely and that he has to utilise GICA at all costs. Good news is that the Mapusa sewerage system has now got a consultant and should start shortly. So informs the concerned PWD Engineer in charge Mr. Chimulkar. Cheers to the Japanese and woe to us Indians. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: Bosco D bos...@canada.com To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Septic tanks on the coastline... -Original Message- From: Frederick Noronha Was just wondering about this: could anyone tell me why septic tanks are considered risky along the Goan coastline? RESPONSE: Perhaps the threat of E-coli [1] in water and sand. Probably gets worse in warmer temps. - B [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli
[Goanet] The bhatkarponn of Goan forums
Selma wrote: Yes, to a large extent caste is defunct in Goan society but it is not dead. It is merely dressed in a more egalitarian garb. In my four years on Goan forums, ultimately it is the Gulfkars, the tarvottis, the Afrikars, the tiartrists who have taken me to their hearts. A classic apples-and-oranges comparision with a logical flaw. Are there no high caste people among the Gulfkars, the tarvottis, the Afrikars, the tiartrists? Cheers! Cecil (proud son of a Shipee) (proud grandson of a Tarvotti) (non-bhatkar, still paying off apartment loan)
[Goanet] In case you missed it
Ghel're ghel'lo na (what happened? Nothing dear? episode Is the above translation correct? I have my doubts. Can someone from Salcette (Lino Dourado, Eddie Verdes, Prof. Jose Salvador Fernandes, G.R. Crasto) shed some light on this? AlmeidaG Global Goan Convention Report in Daiji World Sun Nov 8 22:11:55 PST 2009 Namaste Rabindra, Kudos to the organizers of the Global Goan Convention. From news from Oman including daijiworld we learnt that you were not present on the first day. On the second day, you left mid-way through and eclipsed from the scene with your elderly buddy in the dark. Hence, your conclusion to praise the organizers is rather a ploy for cheap publicity gimmicks as always, and does not augur well. In Konkani there is a mhunni (saying) famous all over Goa and Mangalore - meja vellem kellem kaddilem ani saggvat zoddili. I think the goanetters will understand. Anyways hope this is an eye opener to you and your Goan club as in the past not more than 30 persons attended whenever Shri Eduard Faleiro and NRI delegation visited Kuwait. I was present on two such occasions at Hotel Carlton. Please get your act done, honourably, next time. It's technology, my friend, you cannot blame us for your tell-tales. Now that the convention is over, let us see the progress of Shri Eduardo Faleiro and his team. Otherwise it could be yet another Ghel're ghel'lo na (what happened? Nothing dear? episode. With cheerful wishes and let us hear from you more. Call meCaetano Rosario +965 2 4 8 3 4 3 2 0 ++ Namaskar! Having witnessed the deliberations on 6th of November, 09, I must say, the organizers have donea wonderful job to ensure that the Global Goan Convention at Muscat, was a grand success. Kudos to you all! I am of the firm belief that, well done is better than well said; you certainlydid everything well!! Congratulations! once again, on a job well done God bless Goa and Goans With kind regards,Rabindra PimentaKuwait.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Goan... via the stomach (Alda Figueiredo'srecipes)
Dear Mr. Rangel-Ribeiro, I agree with you. To my knowledge the term 'Goanese' was synonymous with derogation. Certainly for the Goans living abroad. Its use by the authoress implies a contextual misunderstanding of the Goan ethos. One hopes her recipes are better. I. Nunes --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Victor Rangel-Ribeiro vrangel...@aol.com wrote: Since Ms. Alda Figueiredo loves Goa, Goans, and Goan food so much, and has also been in and out of Goa over the years, what on earth led her to use the term Goanese? The term was applied to us disparagingly by outsiders, and as a teenager in Bombay I often heard it used by Anglo-Indians and sometimes by Goans who had converted to Anglo-Indianism. Now, a century later, it is used by one of us? This passes all understanding, and perhaps Ms. Figueiredo should tell us---and she should especially tell any potential Goan publisher---what led her to do it.. Regards, Victor
Re: [Goanet] AIDS, TB top killers by '50: Study
--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Peter F. Borges petervision2...@yahoo.com wrote: 17 November 2009 PANAJI: HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, road accidents, breast cancer and depression have been listed among the top ten killers of Goans by 2050, as per a study conducted by the Goa Institute of Management (GIM) student Ashish Kumar.? Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:43:47 -0800 (PST) From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com What kind of study is this? Is he simply extrapolating over the next 40 years from current rates? No mortality rates have been given for AIDS, Tuberculosis, breast cancer and depression, even though he claims they will be the biggest killers in 2050. Mario observes: 2050?! Are you kidding me?:-)) Most of us will not have to worry too much about tuberculosis, road accidents, breast cancer and depression in 2050:-)) In fact, I plan to be very relaxed by that time, not depressed at all, and have no plans to be in any road accidents in 2050:-))
[Goanet] How to identify the city you're in... in India!
This was apparently written by a tourist! He doesn't really know how Goans fight :-) Thanks to Bernard Thamm for posting one version on Moira-Net [http://groups.google.com/group/moira-net] Found this version on http://broadbandforum.in/humor/34442-identify-city/ QUOTE To identify the city!!! Scenario 1 Two guys are fighting and a third guy comes along, then a fourth and they start arguing about who's right. You are in Kolkata Scenario 2 Two guys are fighting and a third guy comes along, sees them and walks on. That's Amchi Mumbai...busy place dude... Scenario 3 Two guys are fighting and a third guy comes along tries to make peace... The first two get together beat him up. That's Delhi Scenario 4 Two guys are fighting. A crowd gathers to watch. A guy comes along and quietly opens a chai-stall That's Ahmedabad . Scenario 5 Two guys are fighting and a third guy comes he writes a software program to stop the fight. But the fight doesn't stop b'cos of a bug in the program. That's Bangalore Scenario 6 Two guys are fighting. A crowd gathers to watch. A Guy comes along and quietly says that AMMA doesn't Like all this nonsense. Peace comes in. That's Chennai. Scenario 7 Two guys are fighting. Both of them take time out and call their friends on their mobiles Now 50 guys are fighting. You are DEFINITELY IN PUNJAB !!! Scenario 8 Two guys are fighting. Third guy comes along with a carton of beer. All sit together drinking beer and abusing each other and all go home as friends. You are in Goa . Scenario 9 Two guys are fighting. Third guy comes and resolve their fight with the help of others passing over their. You are in the Heart of India ( M.P). And the best one is here……… Scenario 10 Two guys are fighting. Third guy comes from nearby house. And says aamchya gharasamor bhandu naka, dusarikade jaun bhanda (dont fight in front of my place, go somewhere else and keepfighting). That's Pune for sure!!! Copied from somewhere ENDQUOTE -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism ANOTHER GOA: http://openlibrary.org/b/OL23851672M/Another_Goa
[Goanet] Suhas Desale's pictures of Goa
Hello all, Do take a peek at Suhas Desale's pictures of Goa http://www.suhas.co.in/2009/06/goa.html The following link was posted to me by his friend Rushikesh Tambe, a photographer too. http://www.suhas.co.in/gallery/tamhini/ Guess when we talk SEZ, we are talking about such places too. venantius j pinto
[Goanet] Goa news for November 19, 2009
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Six trawlers, 50 Goan fishermen missing in cyclone - Thaindian.com irst-cyclonic-storm-to-reach-Mumbai-in-43-years/articleshow/5220913.cmsusg=AFQjCNFrPNOBOzpWSEAe0WL4BEkZGx6-hgPhyan, first cyclonic storm to reach Mumbai in 43 years http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/six-trawlers-50-goan-fishermen-missing-in-cyclone_100273951.htmlusg=AFQjCNHOTkr7r0TgqIDKuvOsC1SPfYPSCw *** When Phyan left them to face an ordeal at sea - Herald Publications ishermen-still-missing-after-cyclone-phyan-goa-chief-minister_100274210.htmlusg=AFQjCNEUQHHkmb46Ba1wSS4jt6Yyg_pPpQ68 fishermen still missing after Cyclone Phyan: Goa chief minister http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=29911cid=2usg=AFQjCNGc-d2h97bIVpRPOyWd8OsuppKXxA *** Sanatan Sanstha is threat to nation: Goa home minister - Hindustan Times ve blast in Goa, is a threat to the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/goa/Sanatan-Sanstha-is-threat-to-nation-Goa-home-minister/Article1-475918.aspxusg=AFQjCNFLdYjU7wO9unVxwzp6EKD4sZCM6A *** Over 750 Tamil Nadu, Goa fishermen feared drowned - Daily News Analysis adu-government-assures-safety-of-fishermen_100274487.htmlusg=AFQjCNFOZhV9xon_myRr07NaGoi_LVCS5wTamil Nadu government assures safety of fishermen http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_over-750-tamil-nadu-goa-fishermen-feared-drowned_1311360usg=AFQjCNFfTJzeTQXT4vIWuJO184kmqfTXpA *** UK cautions citizens on travel to Goa - Times of India ffice-advises-against-travel-to-goa-5634552.htmlusg=AFQjCNGjyGWT4NqyVxjqYTWZ4J6i_Yo_rwForeign Office advises against travel to Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/UK-cautions-citizens-on-travel-to-Goa/articleshow/5224405.cmsusg=AFQjCNGC4uw-Wbx5pisPS2Bdy-HY5O24aQ *** Goa-Assam match ends in tame draw - Press Trust of India ssam_share_one_point_each_in_drawn_Ranji_tie__N30069.htmlusg=AFQjCNGn51YLqLeHwgH0c1bYlzprtfYQsgGoa-Assam share one point each in drawn Ranji tie http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/376101_Goa-Assam-match-ends-in-tame-drawusg=AFQjCNGzcMPf6Q10BZ7ttJ5LXJ7lmEE4Ag *** Four senior Goa cops create stir aboard offshore casino - Thaindian.com aindian.comPanaji, Nov 13 (IANS) The Goa police department was left red faced after four Superintendents of Police (SP) and three other senior police officials created ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/four-senior-goa-cops-create-stir-aboard-offshore-casino_100274473.htmlusg=AFQjCNGaXYIDWX7HneWmItN5Jcmuid-MKA *** Four More Players Called To The National Camp In Goa - Goal.com 3 side starting from the 15th of this month. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/2696/indian-national-team/2009/11/13/1622423/four-more-players-called-to-the-national-camps-in-goausg=AFQjCNFs7MSJDpLbSeHgOldRlTwZ4VE-KQ *** Goa security drive: 32 vital installations mapped - Times of India mes of IndiaMARGAO: With a heightened security alert this year and caution from the Centre to all states,Goa too is gearing up to cordon major installations by drawing ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-security-drive-32-vital-installations-mapped/articleshow/5224415.cmsusg=AFQjCNELeYiGFBSxvUJ5DrXsQP6H2Zz_dw *** Goa EDC to provide financial aid against immovable property - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: For the first time, the Goa Economic Development corporation (EDC) will extend financial assistance against the mortgage of immovable property. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-EDC-to-provide-financial-aid-against-immovable-property/articleshow/5224401.cmsusg=AFQjCNHeH8Ha8_K97qWOUML_nzdrUptkXQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
NRGs� problems surface at Goan convention
NRGs problems surface at Goan convention HERALD REPORTER Global Goans meet 2010 in Australia PANJIM, NOV 18 An Open House, a unique addition at this years Global Goans Convention in Muscat (Oman), helped Goan representatives to get first-hand knowledge of the grievances of expatriates from the State working in the Gulf country. State NRI Commissioner Eduardo Faleiro said the Open House, where the Ambassador of India in Oman Anil Wadhwa remained present, was of immense help as some of the problems of skilled and semi-skilled Goan expatriate workers were dealt with and solved on the spot. Faleiro said the Embassy of Oman has taken several measures and one of them was a shelter where any Indian worker, who has run away from the workplace or having some other grievances, could take refuge until he or she was repatriated. This shelter is not permitted in law but somehow its working for the benefit of expatriates, he mentioned. Besides, he said, the embassy on the third Friday of every month holds an Open House for redressal of grievances of Indian expatriates and there was a 24-hour helpline in the embassy premises where one could call in case of a problem. In addition, the NRI Commissioner maintained, The embassy has engaged three legal firms to provide legal aid and advice to NRIs. Open meetings are held for this purpose at the embassy premises twice a week. Faleiro said the Indian Embassy circulated dos and donts prepared by the Ministry of Overseas Affairs during the convention warning Indian emigrant workers on the things they should avoid before entering any Gulf country. The NRI Commissioner said the session on Self-Employment Opportunities for NRGs, another first-time addition at the convention, discussed the question of financial assistance and incentives for setting up own business by NRGs in Goa. He said many Goans have expressed desire to come back and take up jobs or start a business in their hometown. We have decided to form a committee headed by former GCCI President Nitin Kunkolienkar to facilitate a single-window system for various Government clearances for such Goans, he informed. Faleiro said the Konkani Vishwa Sammelan, again, another first-time at the convention, espoused on the need to promote the language as an essential element of identity of Konkani-speaking people. It suggested holding of elocution and essay competitions for children of Konkani-speaking people, he mentioned. He said Dubai-based Radio Goa, which disseminates news and music in Konkani on the Internet, came in for much appreciation at the convention. The NRI Commissioner announced the next Global Goans Convention in 2010 would be held in Melbourne, Australia, under the auspices of Australian Goan Convention. He said Melbourne had a sizeable population (around 22,000) of Goans. http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=30110cid=26
Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
Dear Selma, I never ever wanted to engage in any sort of match as you so quaintly put it. This was triggered by your remark on a public forum, saying that my grandfather was considered to be a pro-Nazi in Goa. I felt compelled to respond. So please don't you dare lecture me on how best to preserve my grandfather's memory, shortly after you yourself have publicly hinted at possible blemishes in them. Pro-Nazi is a strong, loaded statement. You now mention minor surveillance (which you also did in the first post), but not the pro-Nazi comment. Perhaps you would care to explain how, in my justified defence of him, I am denying my grandfather his courage. A remark on an internet forum survives as a record, and in future if anyone does a search, every stray comment ever made in cyberspace shows up and often becomes the basis of historical record, and eventually can get accepted as fact. This is why I am reacting so strongly. You publicly offered to send me the relevant document (file no. FO 371/31136) by email, so I shall hold you to that. As regards the request for your postal address, it was triggered by the tone of your own email ...by now I am quite used to people popping up from history books and demanding apologies from me, so I too have taken legal advice in this matter. So what then is the problem with letting me have your address? I feel no fear of any legal action. To call a remark like pro-Nazi about my own grandfather as something disagreeable to me is a Himalayan understatement. Whether I burst onto Goanet or not is a subjective feeling that you hold. It certainly perpetuates a falsity with malice to make a statement like this without then furnishing the proof to substantiate this. I am glad that you now laud my grandfather's courage and daring. He was a great man, who Goa seems to have forgotten by the wayside. I have tried hard to ensure he gets the credit for Goa's first ever radio broadcast. (26 May 1946). I mentioned this to a Goanetter who actually has a blog on Radio in India, but it met with indifferent silence. I can quote chapter and verse on this accomplishment of his, and many others. Thank you very much for your kind offer of assistance in unearthing archived information. You can start making good on this offer by sending me the document that led to this whole exchange in the first place. ;-) Private, publicly, as I said is totally irrelevant. Our family has nothing to hide. You have still not answered my queries regarding the alleged suspension, nor where you got this little nugget of information. I still do look forward to your postal address. Please feel free to send it to me privately if you are not comfortable sending it on this forum. Best wishes, Dr Luis Dias Casa da Moeda Near Head Post Office Panaji-Goa INDIA 2224642, 9011051950. --- On Wed, 18/11/09, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Goan veterans To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org, se...@goanet.org, Luis Dias diasfl...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 11:39 Dear Dr Dias, I do not want to engage in a public mudslinging match. That is not doing any good to either of our reputations. This is my last post on the matter so let me quickly make my points. 1. You burst onto Goanet and use words such as slander and libel. To slander is to lie, perpetuate a falsity with malice. I have done no such thing. This is unjust to my own reputation. I have stated a historical fact that your grandfather was under minor surveillance by the British counsel. You or anyone else who wishes to verify this fact, may go to the National Archives in Kew, Richmond, UK and do so. In good faith, I give you the file no. FO 371/31136. Everything I have stated is sourced from this file. Incidentally I was not doing any research on your family. I chanced upon it whilst researching something else more than a year ago. I just stated it on Goanet because it was relevant to the discussion we were having at the time. 2. Are you entirely sure that your grandfather would want you to defend him in such a manner? It seems to me that your grandfather was a courageous and daring man and fully invested in his own political convictions. Why are you now denying him his courage? How courageous this man was to go against commonly held views and pursue his own path in life, keep his own company. I wonder if he knew that he was being watched but even if he did, I doubt he would have cared little. Don't do this to your grandfather's memory. 3. I don't understand what significance my postal address has to you? Unless there is a thinly disguised threat in there somewhere. Surely you don't want to be seen threatening another Goan on a public forum into silence just because something is disagreeable to you. Recently we had the speaker of the assembly threatening a writer in Goa into silence. It seems that we Goans are
[Goanet] DANGEROUS TRENDS
DANGEROUS TRENDS Like Mayawati, successfully brainwashing the dalits to back her as their champion through every excess and accumulation of wealth, we have Madhu Khoda cocking a snoot at the enforcement agencies and campaigning in Jharkhand with two fingers in victory at huge rallies of his vast followers.We have the Red Corridor in India, with Maoists controlling huge areas where the government's writ does not run. For too long the Judiciary, though held in the highest esteem, has been a law unto itself, unanswerable to the government or the public.The Judiciary made a big fuss about judges having to declare their assets, and are now in absurd confrontation with the High Court as regards RTI being applicable to them.With Chief Justices being accused of favouring relatives, current CJI recommending removal of sitting judge of the Calcutta High Court for corruption and Karnataka Chief Justice being accused of land grabbing, the intense scrutiny of the judiciary is inevitable.Widely reported is the recent dismissal of the petition challenging the reappointment of the court staff by the Goa bench of the Bombay High Court(Even Shiv Sena dares not make it Mumbai HC) on the grounds that the petitioners have no locus standi.The petitioners were armed with information obtained under RTI and wanted the court administration to follow the rules of promotion ,transfer and recruitment as per rules and the law .The court not only dismissed the petition but imposed a cost of Rs5,000/-! Is this a rightful decision? Perhaps the same petitioner having another pending PIL raising objections to the malaise of re-appointment of retired persons in various government departments has something to do with it? The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] ywca of bombay - pasi committee - invites you to talk on violence against women on 20/11/09
Dear E-mail Friends and Family, Please forward. Please attend in large numbers in order to make the programme a success. == YWCA OF BOMBAY - PASI (PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND SOCIAL ISSUES)COMMITTEE INVITES WOMEN AND MEN OF ALL AGE-GROUPS AND ALL RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES TO AN INTER-ACTIVE DISCUSSION/SEMINAR ON - TOPIC - VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN SPEAKER - Mrs. Geeta Mahajan, Secretary of Mahila Federation - FOLLOWED BY - SKIT BY WELL-KNOWN MUMBAI THEATRE GROUP / MOVIE ON - VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN . DATE: FRIDAY, 20TH NOVMBER, 2009 TIME: 10.30 AM ONWARDS. VENUE: YWCA OF BOMBAY, ANUGRAHA HOSTEL, SECTOR-8, CBD-BELAPUR, NAVI MUMBAI - 400 614. PH. NO. 022-27570786 REFRSHMENTS WILL BE SERVED TO ALL. REGISTRATION FREE. For registration and further information and details please contact:- Arputha Antony, (Programme Officer),YWCA of Bombay, on :- Phone Nos: 22020122, 22833768, 22823411, 22844822 or e-mail - ywcafo...@rediffmail.com. PLEASE BE ON TIME. ==
Re: [Goanet] Azulejos
A few links from here on azuleijos... did Macau run dry of em? PS: EOE PPS: Xac, don't blame me if this triggers off a bout of acute Lusostalgia. This is potent stuff (and good too!) 2009/11/16 Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk: ... I believe there is a Goan boy by the name of Orlando Noronha who is a reproductor of Azulejos. Mr. Noronha creates his own genre of products which are ordered by hotels etc. besides the gentelman is also a master of the guitarra portuguesa and one was offered to him by the Portuguese President Cavaco e Silva. HAND-PAINTED CERAMICS (AND AZULEJOS) Azulejos are a typical form of Portuguese or Spanish painted, tin-glazed, ceramic tilework. This art was introduced to Portugal, via Spain, by the Moors (Muslims), who had learned the craft from the Persians. Take a look at the artistic name-plates for the entrance to homes that are being created from azulejo. Products range from modest coaster at Rs 25 to murals priced at Rs 1500 (12 x 18 inches). Velha Goa: Traditional hand-painted azulejos (tiles). Also a range of souvenirs. This outlet is located just alongside the Panjim Inn, and while items may be pricey, the quality is both good and innovative. Add: 4/191 Rua de Ourem, Fontainhas, Panjim Ph 832.2426628 www.costavin.com Factory: Aquem Alto, Margao 403601 ph 832.2711468 or 832.2735294. De Goa Ceramics: Hand-painted tiles, located in Panjim. Add: Almeida Ville, Off Braganza Pereira Road, St Inez, Panjim Ph 832-2420812. Contact Frazer Pires. Orlando de Noronha's azuleijos tiles. Another option for azuleijos. Some artistic work here. Add: Opp Clube Nacional, Next to Sales Tax Office. 7/1 Above Old Vijaya Bank, MG Road, 2431900 9850930253 azulejosde...@rediffmail.com azulejosdegoa.com -- Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490 ANOTHER GOA: http://openlibrary.org/b/OL23851672M/Another_Goa
[Goanet] A great gesture - GOA VANCOUVER Homeles s Lunch Program – Sun, Nov 22
o GOA Vancouver Calling for volunteers – GOA Vancouver Homeless Lunch Program – Sun, Nov 22 The GOA Vancouver “ Team with a Heart could once again use your help to serve lunch to the homeless of East Side Vancouver. Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009 Time: 10 am to 2 pm Venue: First United Church Mission Address: 320 East Hastings St. @ Gore, Vancouver Assistance is required to help set up, serve lunch, pour coffee and juice ... and clean up. Please come out and make a difference - we need your help. Rides can be arranged. more at GOA VANCOUVER : http://www.goavancouver.com/ 00 WATCH what people do , not what they say ! renebarreto GOANWORLDhttp://worldgoan.blogspot.com
[Goanet] Panjim PIL update
To Goanet - Yesterday out of the blue I got a call from the Amicus Curiae appointed by the High Court in my PIL on Panjim. First, a brief background: The High Court had issued a final order in April 2008 directing the CCP to address several civic issues in the city - public defecation, urination, illegal squatting and hawking on footpaths, loitering/littering in gardens and public spaces, blocking of pavements by mechanics and merchandise, and any other forms of civic/public nuisance that have come to plague the city in recent times. Since the CCP failed to effectively act and address these matters, I filed a contempt petition in July 2008 providing further evidence through photos. In February of this year, a second round of photos was filed in the Court. Which brings us to the present - the Amicus Curiae now says another hearing is due and that a new round of photos as evidence will be required. This is turning out to be a farce. How many more times do we need to give them evidence? Meanwhile the city continues to worsen, with Bihari UP bhaiyyas assorted ghatis - the PUSS Brigade (PUSS = Paan-Urine-Shit-Spit), in full flower. (Not to mention the swarms of security guards from Jharkhand.) I do not intend to expend any more effort taking photos of the swamp that the city has become. The only other fellow who spent time doing this is JoeGoaUk. But if there are any concerned citizens who wish to provide me with photographs, I shall make prints and present them to the Amicus. These have to be turned in by this Saturday. The photographs need to be taken between now and Saturday and you need to specify the date when it was taken. So - if you care, email me your photographs, of the violations you see in the city. If not, good luck. Let the sewage fly in Panjim and the ghatis reign. r
[Goanet] Goycho Mando Prince - Elvis Goes
Gõycho Mando Prince - Elvis Goes Dor ek Gõykar soimbinch ek kolokar koso zolmota, oxe toren hea borovpak survat dili zalear, khorench; tiatr ani songit mollar hem Gõykaramni sid’dh korun dakhoilam mhunn sangpak, tum fattim ravchonam. Dor ek Gõychea ganvant zomant ail’lo kolakar, nhoi Gõyant vo Bharotant, punn ontoraxtrik mollar porian apli kolen pollzolleat ani pollzotat. Gõychea dor ek ganvant khubuch torechi kola, zoxe porim songit/dans/khell/tiatr, loknach/gitam, bhajan/kirtan, film/chitr-kola adi-adi., veg-veglea kolakoranchea angan bhorun asa ti ganvche kolakar fuloit ravtat ani oxe toren aplea ganvank ani Gõy Rajeyak nanv mellun ghetat. Ani osle torecho soglleancho vollkicho Kepem ganvcho ek borovpi, kantaram ghoddpi, xikxok ani songittacho vhodd onbhov aslolo kolakar ani ‘Kempemchim Kirnnam’-cho voddill Evaristo Cirilo Goes alias Elvis Goes zaun asa. Elvisacho zolm Cusmane-Kepem ganvant Mayeache 29ver,1969 vorsa Shri Pedro Paul ani Shrimati Escolastica Goes kuttumbant zalo. Pope John XXIII High Scholl-ant ) tannem mullavem (X-vi) meren xikop kelem ani uprant Chowgule Kolejint Maths vixoyant fuddlem xikxonn ghevn BSc-chi podvi mellun ghetli. Lhanponnich thavn taka songitachi, tiatrachi, loknach ani gitanchi avodd asli. Tachea angant he gunn bhorpachem kharan mhonnlear songit ani tiatr mollavoilem tanchem kuttumb. Tacho xapai, Minguel Francis Goes ten’nacho ek vhodd khell xikovpi ani Bhat Minguel hea add nanvan taka ani tanchea kuttumbak ollkotale. Elvisacho bapui Pedro Paul ek koddegant partist ani kantorist aslo. Ten’nachea Minguel Rod-a oslea famad ani yer digdorspeam sangata to nhesla. Oxem toren rongtantuch asloli kola, Elvisan; apnnalea ikmotin ani huxarkayen fuddem veli. Lanponnim than, ganvchea igorjent tannem gayon-monddolacho polim vangddi ani magir mhukheli mhunn vavr kelo-ani korit asa . 1987 vorsa, Goa Cultural Social Centre he sonvsthen Moddgonv xarant ghoddun haddlolea Akhil Goy Konknni Gavpache Spordhent, sabar fanki kolakarnak fattim ghalun, Elvisan poilo inam' jikhun ghetlo ani tea uprant to kenanch fattim vollun polevnk nam. Zoxem zhorichem udok vhaun veta tech toren tachea rogt-xiramni Gõycho poromporik Manddo-Dekhnni-Dulpodd hem Gõychem sonskruttik daiz bhitor sorun tannem ‘Kepechim Kirnnam' he sonvsthecho vavr anik nettan fuddem vhelo. Kolejintle lecturers, tticher, dhondekar, lekhok, kovi hancho aspav asun ani kuttumbanchea vangddam sohokaran, 1995 vorsa, hea lokh-nach ani gitanchea pongoddachim sutram aplea hatan' ghetlim. Ani az, girest daiz sonsskruttik molavelean Gõy Rajayachem nanv sonvsarachea mapar fankaroilem.Goa Cultural Social Centre-an ghoddun haddlolea Manddo Utsovant taka The Mando Prince of Goa ho mukhuttui sabar pavtti favo zala. Elvis-an aplea pongddak Kala Akademichea vorsavollichea Carol Singing Contest-ant segid tin vorsam (1998, 1999, ani 2000 inam' melloileat. Manddo zaun asa mukhel khaxele gunn (forte) Kepemchea pongddache. ‘Kepemchim Kirnnam’ Thiruvanthapuram hanga ghoddun haddlolea ‘National Youth Festival’ Raxttrik mollar Elvis-an svota ghoddil'lo (best original song) Kalliz Pinzta ho Manddo ghaun 2003 vorsant Goy Rajyeak poilo inam mellvn dilo. Goychea Mandde Utsovache 3 vorsam (1997, 1998 ani 2000) poilem inam jikhun bhov manacho ‘Mrs. Ligia Goes Manddo Award’ favo zalo. Mungllur, Manddd Sobhann he sonvsthen ghoddun haddlolea ‘World’s Longest Singing Marathon by Multiple Singers’ hatunt ‘Kepemchim Kirnnam’-an vantto ghevn her pongddam borobor, aplem nanv bhangarache okxoramni Guinness Book World Records-an boroun dovorlem. Songitak dil’lea vhodd yogddanam ani karya khatir tacho sabar toren sotkar kela. Gõy Rajya torven ‘Yuva Srujan Puroskar (Youth Achiever Award) favo zala. Mukhel Montri Digambhar Kamat hanchea hatantleant Elvis,Yuva Srujan Puroskar ghetana Borovpi, kantaram ghoddpi, xikxok ani songitacho onnbhov aslolo Elvisacho ‘Kempechim Kirnnam’ pongodd Indian Coucil for Cultural Relations (ICCR), Misnistry of External Affairs, Govt. of India-achea asrea khal Bharotache ani bhailea desant mothvachea sonskruttichea dobajeamni vantto ghetla. Desachea chear-ui kon'xeamni Kepemchea Kirnnam-ni Goychea lok-kolecho pormoll ani porzoll xinvraila, zoxe porim Paramparya Festival, Quilon-Kerela, Manddo Utsov-Mungllur, All Indian Sammelan Calicut-Kerela, toxench Quilon, Puri Beach Festival, Goan Cultural Festival, New Delhi ani Goan Cultural Centre-Kuwait, Republic of Seychelles, Vientianne-Laos ani Phnom Phenn-Cambodia hea desamchi bhonvddi korun karriokram keleat. Halinch tanchea vannteak ek vhodd bhag favo zalem: Goycho lok-nach ani gitam sador korpak bhov-manachea (prestigious) Opera House – Cairo ani Opera House - Alexendria, hanga ani tech bhaxen Embassy of the Russian Federation-Addis Ababa, Nazareth, Bahir Dar, Khartoun ani yer Afrikachea vhodd mukhel xaramni. Gõyche sonskruttik girest daizachem mothv zannam
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (19Nov09)
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Re: [Goanet] Preserve the Culture and Identity of Goa, says, NRI Commissioner Eduardo Faleiro
Dear Mr. Fernandes: I find it deliciously hypocritical that NRI Commissioner Faleiro who having done so much to encourage and promote out migration of Goans and others as Gulf guest-workers who daily toil in inhospitable climes, and who attempts faux Goan unity with repeat junkets (paid for by resident Goan tax payers) to these areas, now has the cajones to stress the importance of retaining Goan identity and culture of his dwindling countrymen. Ha! Man talks with forked tongue. best, I. Nunes --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Freddy Fernandes ffernandes@emaar.ae wrote: Preserve the Culture and Identity of Goa, says, NRI Commissioner Eduardo Faleiro. Commissioner of NRI affairs Eduardo Faleiro highlighted the importance of preserving the culture and identity of Goa. He was speaking at the Bal Mela organized by Jan Ugahi and Big Foot Trust at Loutolim. Faleiro also said that in the present century, the deterioration of global environment poses a serious threat to the future generations'. Around 800 children from weaker sections of society participated in the mela After decades in politics this is the first time I have heard Mr. Faleiro talk some sense at last, there might not be any concrete action coming out of the 4th Global Goan Convention in Oman, and a lot of people too had said that nothing good is going to happen and it's just a total waste of public money, but the hot topic of preserving Goan Culture and It's Identity at the convention must have got through into Mr. Faleiro. Hope this contagion does not cure it's self half way into it's treatment. Mr. Faleiro, in the position that he was in the Congress Party, could have done a lot for Goa, but what has he achieved in over three decades in Delhi, except may be part in the statehood process, overall he has been a failure. Last couple of years Goa has seen so much turmoil due to mega housing and mining but we did not hear anything from Mr. Faleiro. A couple of months back, he did open his mouth, but unfortunately bit his own tongue in the process, when he made a statement that, Government should take over the running of Church properties. Goa has infinite number of issues that are much more important, which need immediate attention and all that Mr. Faleiro could think of was protecting Church properties and that too from the clergy. It is agreed that there have been some discrepancies on the part of the clergy but has the Government done any better for us to put our faith and belief in them rather than our clergy ? Is there any Cummunidade property left in Goa ? What has the Government done with the Lakhs of Sq meters of land that were acquired ? Land scams involving Government officials and politicians in Goa, out number any other scams, and all that Mr. Faleiro could think off was, ask the tiger to guard the goat. Mr Faleiro also talks of global environment concern, when his own government has done nothing, absolutely nothing to protect and preserve our ecology and our environment in Goa, on the contrary Congress Government in Goa has been supporting rampant mining, hill cutting and land filling, which has contributed to the devastation of our ecology and our environment. If Mr. Faleiro is serious about his newly acquired concern to protect Goan Culture, it's Identity and it's environment, please show it in actions not just words. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes
[Goanet] Goanese
An excerpt from my Goa Today column in 2002, seven years back! - A Goanese by any name... No self respecting Goan anywhere in the world will tolerate being referred to as a 'Goanese'. Yet an Internet search for Goanese in my favourite Search Engine, Google (www.google.com), gave me about one thousand six hundred links! Of course most of these were from online recipe compilations, or menus at restaurants, or ill-researched travel sites where Goanese is often wrongly used as an adjective instead of Goan. For example a respectable online site like Lonely Planet (www.lonelyplanet.com) states Calangute isn't one of the best Goanese beaches: there are hardly any palms... Surprisingly Goanese as a synonym for the Konkani language also featured on many sites (eg. www.ethnologue.com). And yes, of course, Goanese to describe the natives of Goa! This error isn't recent though. Till a few decades back Goans were often referred to as Goanese in British records and as Mesticos and Canarans in Portuguese records in East Africa. In the Portuguese language the word for Goans is: Goeses (plural) and Goes (singular) or 'Goesa' (female). Alternative Portuguese terms are goano (male) and goana (female), Even the Encyclopaedia Brittanica 1995 (www.goanet.com/text/general/intro.htm) states Many Goanese bear Portuguese names and are partly of Portuguese descent as a result of intermarriage between early Portuguese settlers and the local inhabitants. Besides being linguistically inaccurate, the other fact of the matter is that the Portuguese surnames came by during mass conversions, when the presiding Portuguese officer gave the recently baptised the legacy of his name. Welcome to Goa, the land of taverns, feni, carnival, churches and carefree Goanese, said the controversial Surajkund brochure released by the Haryana Government and reported on by Sandesh Prabhudesai (www.goanews.com/17jan01.htm). Further back The Catholic Encyclopaedia of 1907 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02644a.htm) states In 1720, on political grounds, the Goanese clergy were expelled by the Government... Perhaps the longest ever argument on, and dissection of, the term Goanese was held on The Goan Forum (www.colaco.net/1/goaniz.htm). A wonderful read I would highly recommended to amyone wishing to know more about this term. To condense: Perhaps not as derogatory as 'nigger' or 'Paki', but Goanese still rankles. Jorge de Abreu Noronha points out that, linguistically, it would be OK if someone called a Goan a Goese, but not Goan + ese = Goanese. The argument being that only names which have 'n', 'm' or 't' preceding the terminal 'a' get converted to 'ese'. For example China - Chinese, Burma - Burmese... But Sri Lanka - Sri Lankan, Arabia - Arabian, India -Indian (not Indianese!), Jamaica - Jamaican, Russia - Russian, Croatia -Croatian, Australia - Australian An interesting anecdote: In March 1994 Canada based Goan writer Ben Antao, and his Italian wife, had the privilege of being introduced to Pierre Trudeau, the late Prime Minister of Canada, as being from Goa. Mr. Trudeau asked Antao, Is your wife a Goanese too? To which he replied No, she's not a Goan; she's Italian. - Cheers! Cecil ===
Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans
Dear Dr Luis, I will certainly keep to my word and send you the documents you have requested. I will send you scanned copies via email. Just give me a few days to get to it and do remind me if I forget. Best, selma --- On Wed, 11/18/09, Luis Dias diasfl...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Luis Dias diasfl...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Goan veterans To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org, se...@goanet.org, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 6:06 AM Dear Selma,
[Goanet] Selma Quits.
But not without a parting shot ! We knew the joy of seeing that quintessential bhatcar, Dom Alfredo da toda Skandanavya, coddle you, over the years. I can only hope you did not feel 'debauched.' Until -. eric. From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 8:59:57 PM Subject: [Goanet] The bhatkarponn of Goan forums There were in the Goa of yore a few Catholic families who no doubt occupied positions of power and privilege pre-1961. This sense of entitlement was upheld by notions of caste, with little or possibly no regard for merit. Nonetheless, in time, education and economics played their part in insulating this coterie from the rest of Goa. Doubtless in time they solidified their positions, made possible by inter-marriage. In time they became almost a clan. Implacable. Their reputations and lifestyles, however debauched, protected by a wall of silence, maintained in part by loyalty, in part by fear and sadly in part through unfailing reverence from all those that called them bhatkar. Those days are gone now but that sense of bhatkarponn has not died in these families. Over the course of the four years I have been on Goan forums, I have come across it again and again. Yes, to a large extent caste is defunct in Goan society but it is not dead. It is merely dressed in a more egalitarian garb. In my four years on Goan forums, ultimately it is the Gulfkars, the tarvottis, the Afrikars, the tiartrists who have taken me to their hearts. Perhaps in a very small way, I have become their voice because I come from them, from that belly of Goa which grows in its villages. I know them. I can see them in my grandfathers, my father, my cousins and my friends. Hopefully, I will continue being their voice. The other Goa has remained closed, zip-locked with constant innuendo, here on Goanet and elsewhere. We Goans today are as divided as we were a few centuries ago. Let's not be mistaken about that. Neither education nor economics has fundamentally changed our way of thinking. I've had a good run. Great fun. But I now request the moderators to change my listing to a digest. After four long years, I need some air to breathe. Best, selma
Re: [Goanet] New Book Traces Christianity’s Beginn ings In Goa ..... SAR News 18 Nov
*New Book Traces Christianity’s Beginnings In Goa *http://sarnews.in/New%20Book%20Traces%20Christianity%E2%80%99s%20Beginnings%20In%20Goa%3Cbr%3E *18-11-2009* *By SARNEWS* *PILAR, Goa(SAR NEWS) *--Was there Christianity in Goa before the Portuguese? A new book will tell you more. “This work is not only historical but has spiritual dimensions, too,” said Dr. A.V. Afonso, professor and head, Department of Philosophy and dean of Faculty of Social Sciences at Goa University, during the release of his book ‘Apostolic Christianity in Goa and the West Coast’, at Pilar, November 14. The occasion coincided with the novena of Venerable Father Agnelo of Goa. Affirming that this book was a path-breaking study, Afonso said it is a ‘must-read’ for historians and laypeople. ‘Apostolic Christianity in Goa and the West Coast’ is the fruit of a strenuous research of Father Cosme Jose Costa who discovered the St. Thomas Cross bearing Pahlavi script of the 7th century A.D., in Agasaim village in Goa, providing evidence that Christianity existed in Goa and the West Coast of India long before the arrival of the Portuguese in 1510, he said. Against the common misconception that Christianity was introduced in Goa by the Portuguese, the pages of this book will trace the presence of Christianity in the tiny coastal Indian state, most probably from the apostolic times, he added. This is a period when Christianity was brought to India, immediately after its birth and even before its spread to other parts of the then known world, including Europe and even Rome. This research work also helps to understand the ancient roots of Goa, with the background of the millennial history of India, its contacts with the West, the ancient trade routes, the rulers and dynasties and all that led to the development of the complex Indian civilisation, to which the Konkan was part. Dr. Afonso has taught Philosophy at Goa University, C.P.I.R., University of Bombay and some colleges under the Bombay University for over three decades. He has been a Fellow of the Indian Institute of Advanced Study, Shimla. He has been a member of various professional and expert bodies, including Indian Council of Philosophical Research. He has authored several papers in areas of meta-philosophy, philosophy of science and applied ethics. Of late, he has edited a comprehensive volume on ‘Indian Christianity’ for Centre for Studies in Civilisation, New Delhi, under their Project of History of Indian Science, Philosophy and Culture, a project sponsored by the Government of India. The author is a member of the Society of the Missionaries of St. Francis Xavier (Society of Pilar), and professor of History of the World and of the Church at the All India Mission Seminary, Pilar, Goa. He has set up the Pilar Seminary Museum which projects the 2000-year-old history of the place. He has also written several books and contributed several research articles at history seminars and periodicals. ‘Life and Achievements of Blessed Joseph Vaz’, ‘A Missiological Conflict between Padroado and Propaganda in the East’ and ‘Heritage of Govapuri’ are his other important publications. vjp
[Goanet] HAPPY FEAST TO ALL-VENERABLE FR.AGNELO D'SOUZA
Dear All, Have a blessed feast and let's continue to pray to the lord almighty in recognising the Venerable Fr. Agnelo into a Saint , the day is not too far when we will address him as Saint Fr. Agnelo. God bless you all Vivek Araujo Novena of Fr. Agnelo PRAYER TO OBTAIN THE GLORIFICATION OF VEN. AGNELO Almighty God, our heavenly Father, we gratefully acknowledge your plan for our salvation, even by working miracles through your chosen servants. We thank you for giving us your faithful servant Fr. Agnelo, as an example of how to follow in the steps of your beloved Son, Jesus Christ. With our whole heart, we pray that you may lead us through your Spirit to imitate his saintly life. Grant us also the favour we ask (mention the favour) as a sign that he now shares in the Glory of our Risen Lord. PRAYER FOR THE CANONIZATION OF VEN. AGNELO O God of infinite mercy, we humbly prostrate at your feet, we beg of You, with whole hearted trust, that if it be Your Holy Will, and if it serves our salvation, grant Fr. Agnelo the honours of the Altar, through the Solemn declaration of Our Provident Mother, the Church. We ask this through Christ Our Lord. AMEN. PADR AGNELAK BHAGEVONTACHO MAN MELLUNK MAGNNEM Sorpodvedar Deva,/ amchea sorginchea Bapa,/ amche soddvonne khatir,/ Tuji manddavoll,/ dhinvaxi monan ami ollkhotanv/ ani teach khatir/ Tujea vinchun kaddloleam sevokam udexim/ ochoriam legun Tum korun dakhoitai mhonn mandtanv./ Tujea Putachea panvlar/ ami koxe porim cholunk zai hem dakhounk,/ Tuzo visvaxi sevok Pri Agnel,/ ek nomunno koso amkam diloi mhonn/ Tuka dhinvastanv/ ani Tujea Povitr Atmeachea uzvaddan,/ Pri Agnelachea bhagivont jivitachi dekh/ ami gheunk pavlear puro mhonn/ kallzant thaun magtanv./ Toxench atam Pri Agnel,/ Tujea Putachea,/ Jezuchea onodbhorit jivitant,/ bhagidar zalo mhonn dakhounk ho upkar/ (tuji goroz sang) ek khunna koxi favo kor mhonn vinoitanv. BHAGEVONTACHO MAN MELLUNK MAGNNEM Ogonnit kaklutichea Deva,/ sorpott poddun/ Tujeam paiam sorxim,/ ami magtanv/ vhodda visvasan,/ Tuji khuxi ani amchea boreponnak/ upkarta zalear,/ Pri Agnelak/ Santacho man favo kor,/ amche Povitr Sobheche,/ Igorjeche,/ ughodd porghottnne udexim./ Magtanv amchea Somia Jezu Kristache nanvim./ AMEN. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/
