[Goanet] Canacona Flash Floods Study Committee Report

2009-11-23 Thread armstrong augusto vaz
http://www.nio.org/jsp/newsReadOnly.jsp?newsId=222

Executive Summary of Report (for complete report click
here)http://www.nio.org/uploads/Report_Canacona_FFS20_nov.pdf

The Government of Goa constituted the Canacona Flash Floods Study Committee
with the following two objectives. (1) Assemble and analyse available
information to describe and identify causes behind the flash floods in
Canacona Taluka on 2 October 2009. (2) Suggest measures to be adopted in Goa
to minimize damage arising from similar episodes in future. This report of
the Committee is based on the study carried out with the help of a team set
up at the National Institute of Oceanography (NIO Team). The team conducted
field surveys, analysed available data, particularly data on precipitation,
and assisted the committee in arriving at a description of the event and its
causes. This work has permitted the Committee to infer that the flash floods
in Canacona were directly related to about 271 mm of rain that fell between
approximately 9.30 AM and 4.30 PM on 2 October 2009. While this
approximately 7-hour long precipitation event was the direct cause, there
were indirect causes that set the stage for the flash floods. These were:

a) Talpona and Galjibag Rivers which got flooded on 2 October 2009 are
located in an area with average rainfall of 2953 mm during June-September.
This area had a normal rainy season in 2009 with 2875 mm of rain. As a
result, by end-September, the soil is expected to have had high amounts of
moisture.

b) Between 8.30 AM on 29 September and 8.30 AM on 2 October 2009 Canacona
Town rain-gauge recorded 252 mm of rain. This spell is expected to have
saturated the soil in the entire Canacona Taluka with moisture, and river
channels would have been full with water.

c) About three-fourths of the catchment area of the upper Talpona River is
located on mountain slopes. Galjibag River too flows through a valley
surrounded by mountains. The mountain slopes of such areas are vulnerable to
mudslides and the plains or valleys amidst mountain ranges are vulnerable to
flooding.

The water reaching the surface due to the 7-hour precipitation event on 2
October cascaded down the slopes whose soil was already saturated with
water. The resulting damage at a location depended on altitude of the
location. On steep slopes with altitude in excess of 300 m, the cascading
water led to mudslides. At altitudes of about 50 m or more, agricultural and
horticultural areas were submerged and cattle were washed away. At lower
altitudes (about 50 m or less), where topography is flatter, accumulation of
water submerged buildings, and as the water made its way towards the sea,
the flow destroyed houses and commercial establishments, particularly those
that were weak (mud houses, for example).

There are no records to suggest that flooding of this magnitude occurred in
Canacona taluka in recorded history. Nevertheless, the elements that
contributed to the event are not uncommon in Goa. Hence, this incident of
intense precipitation is best looked upon as a warning on what can happen.
The Committee feels that, because such events cannot be prevented, the State
of Goa should focus on awareness and preparedness for minimizing the impact
of an intense precipitation event, such as the one that occurred on 2
October 2009.

The Committee has one general recommendation and four specific
recommendations. The general recommendation is that the well known practices
in forest management for preventing mudslides (aforestation of mountain
slopes, for example) and in river management (such as de-silting of river
bed) should receive emphasis and increased investment. These measures should
be able to minimize damage from precipitation events of lesser intensity,
but higher frequency, that occur in Goa.

The specific recommendations are:

(a) The areas vulnerable to mudslides should be mapped and site-specific
disaster management plan to face them should be in place at each location
with high vulnerability.

(b) Areas with high vulnerability to flooding due to an intense
precipitation event should be identified and a disaster management plan
should be evolved at locations that are particularly vulnerable.

(c) A mechanism for keeping a careful watch should be in place whenever a
situation arises with high potential for an intense precipitation event in a
vulnerable area. The Meteorological Centre of the India Meteorological
Department (IMD), Panaji, should form the nerve centre of such a watch.

(d) The State of Goa should make IMD's Cyclone Warning Dissemination
System operational in the state.

In order to enlarge the state?s awareness for damage from precipitation
events, (a) and (b) above should be carried out using the services of
faculty and students from Goan undergraduate and postgraduate institutions,
and then circulated widely amongst local policy and decision makers. To
assist this process, the NIO Team should prepare one report on one site on
each of the two 

[Goanet] HISTORY HOUR - NOVEMBER 27

2009-11-23 Thread Deliom
 HISTORY HOUR
 
XAVIER CENTRE OF HISTORICAL RESEARCH
 Cordially invites you to a talk and discussion on
 

The Legal Frameworks for Heritage Conservation in India

 by

 Prof. Edgar Ribeiro

  

Xavier Centre of Historical Research

Alto Porvorim

 

Friday, 27th November 2009

5. 30 pm

 

Tel: 2417772 ;  2414971

del...@dataone.in

 

India's natural and manmade heritage is among the richest in the world. Yet a 
lot of this is being lost due to weak policies and conflicting legislative 
interpretations. With Goa in focus, the importance of heritage mapping, the 
role of agents of conservation / preservation, action and citizen support 
thereof would be discussed during this History Hour.

Prof. Eng. Edgar Ribeiro, an Urban and Regional Planner now resettled in Goa, 
had in succession served as Planning Commissioner of Delhi Development 
Authority, Chief Planner Govt. of India, Director of the School of Planning  
Architecture and Director of the Association of Municipalities  Development 
Authorities. In the 1990s he helped INTACH to establish its Architectural 
Heritage Cell and was for several years chairman for India of the International 
Commission for Monuments and Sites.  Prof. Ribeiro was President of the 
Institute of Town Planners India and for seven years served as vice-president 
of the International Society of Urban  Regional Planners. Currently he assists 
the Ministry of HRD Govt. of India in establishing a new School of Planning  
Architecture at Bhopal as Chairman of its Board of Governor. He is also a 
consultant on Urban and Regional Governance on BPL housing and Heritage. Prof. 
Ribeiro helped recently the ministry of Urban Development to develop their 
Heritage toolkit through INTACH under the JNNURM fund and also proposed a new 
Participatory Development Planning Law for the states of the Union in 
supercession of outdated or incomplete Town  Country Planning Acts.


[Goanet] Goan/Goanese

2009-11-23 Thread Michael Ali
In the US too we are referred to by most either verbally or in print as 
'Goanese'. This stems from ignorance and not from any other reason as they 
do not know any better. Those who know the community well always refer to 
them as Goans. I fully agree with FN when he concludes saying 'simply a mix 
of misunderstanding on the outside, and over-sensitivity on the inside.'


Furthermore, in French, a person from Pakistan is not Pakistani but 
Pakistanese. I too was surprised as being addressed as such by a Frenchman 
once. But that is how it is in French.


regards,

Mike 



Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans

2009-11-23 Thread Frederick Noronha
Even though recast as a nationalist (whatever that is supposed to
mean) these days, F.L. Gomes was delightfully ambivalent over his
Indian and European traditions. This has been adeptly pointed out by
Dr Nishtha Desai points out in her interesting paper:
http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg51664.html

QUOTE

In the case of Cunha's predecessor Francisco Luis Gomes (1829-1869),
one finds that his nationalism is constructed on the framework of his
Christian religious belief and his faith in the superiority of Western
civilisation.

  Gomes states: The most powerful instruments of
  civilisation are two: the Christian religion, and
  education . He goes on to discuss how
  conversions could be achieved in British India.  He
  gives importance to the use of tact and suggests
  that Britain learn from Portugal: Portugal
  converted a portion of India to the Catholic
  religion with the arms of her soldiers, with the
  blood of her martyrs, with the miracles of her
  saints, and with the fires of her Inquisition.
  Those who were vanquished in this struggle became
  Christians and Portuguese. England might imitate
  the example, except as regards force... 

...He comments: Cholera and the Thug were born in the same country
and in the same year. India is their native land...

  All impartial men desired India for India
  according to Gomes. At the same time he asserts:
  To men of liberal principles and to mankind it
  is perfectly indifferent whether India is called
  English or Brahmanical; what they cannot consent to
  is that the domination be exploitation instead of
  paternal tutelage.

He believed that because India was ridden with rivalries of
different dynasties, caste hatred and religious antagonisms,
it had been possible for England to conquer her; With only
one religion, only one dynasty, only one caste, India would
have been invincible.

  I was born in the East Indies, once the cradle of
  poetry, philosophy andhistory and now their tomb. I
  belong to that race which composed the Mahabharata
  and invented chess... But this nation which made
  codes of its poems and formulated politics in a
  game is no longer alive! It survives imprisoned in
  its own country [...] I ask for India liberty and
  light; as for myself, more happy than my
  countrymen, I am free -- civis sum 

Perhaps because of the desire to project Gomes as a
nationalist the lastline is often not quoted.  This line
clearly reveals Gomes's perception of himself as free on
account of his being able to live in Portugal as a Portuguese
citizen and consequently better of than his fellow
countrymen. Does this mean that he was not a nationalist?

UNQUOTE

So, can his views also be seen as a reflection of the Catholic
Bamon-versus-Chardo rivalry that dominated Goa for much of the 20th
century, and possibly before?

Of course, even this would not degitimise the wider point he was
making... though the context is important too. FN

2009/11/23 Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com:
 Thank you Tony de Sa for reminding me about the book '' Os bramanes '' by
 Francisco
 Luis Gomes.
 Francisco Luis of Navelim was elected a deputy to represent Goa in Portugal
 Parliament.  In his maiden speech  in Parliament, I believe, he threatened
 fellow
 Portuguese deputies  with a statement that he hailed from a great country
 that
 that has been breeding some great and powerful people called brahmins.
 It is not known whether by mentioning brahmins ,  he wanted his fellow
 deputies
 to show him greater deference or whether he wanted his land to be free from
 the colonial yoke.
 The fact remains, invaders have been freely moving in and out of India for
 centuries,
 notwithstanding great bramanical powers , and even the colonial masters of
 his land
 stayed put for another century  after his glorious speech.




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Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans

2009-11-23 Thread Tony de Sa
 fredericknoro...@gmail.comfredericknoro...@gmail.com :
Oh, you guys are just creating straw men of people you don't like, and
then attacking them. That's super easy, and doesn't need an intellect
as powerful as yours to do.

Thanks for the left handed compliment and the explanation of 'straw man'.

The post was meant as a joke and I am sure that the august professor will
see it as the same (if he can manage to find time to see the post what with
him being busy with IFFI and his professorial duties). So just what makes
you think I don't like Augusto?

It may interest you to know that according to AP's philosophy, often
expressed publicly, your Internet persona does not have to coincide with
your real persona!

But then Rico, please tell me if you find Augusto's Bamon baiting edifying
and meets your exacting literary standards? And didn't Augusto throw the
first flame bait? Even the good Bahamas located Doctor faulted the
moderators for that!

If you don't like something Augusto (or anyone else) says, please tell
us why it is illogical, present an alternate set of facts, or
otherwise effectively counter his views. Don't tell us what he does
not like, what he eats for dinner, the kind of clothes he wears, the
bike or jeep he rides/drives, how much entertainment there is or isn't
in his village, or the state of his home's library at the time of his
birth.

Oh how I wish all of Goanet's posts followed the advice you have been
dishing out. Alas :-/

And if the good professor is motivated and driven by the advice that you
have been gratuitously been offering him (not only in your post but in
person also), then I wish him all the best.


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[Goanet] Sugar 40 per KG Congress Zindabad.

2009-11-23 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE
For almost 4 to 5 years between 2001 to 2006 Sugar was available for 12 to 15. 
But now it is 40 per KG.
Three times rise in just 3 years.

Congress Party Zindabad.

Shrikant Vinayak Barve
Convener: We Love Ayurved
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[Goanet] Portugal ranks first in European Online Public Services

2009-11-23 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
Portugal é Primeiro do ‘Ranking’ Europeu em Serviços Públicos Online  
 
Portugal ocupa o primeiro lugar no ranking europeu de disponibilização e 
sofisticação dos serviços públicos online, de acordo com o estudo comparativo 
da Comissão Europeia sobre Administração Electrónica “Smarter, Faster, Better 
eGovernment”, divulgado no dia 19 de Novembro, na Suécia 



Portugal ranks first in European Online Public Services

Porugla has taken the first place in European ranking for availability and 
sophistication of online public services, according to a comparative study by 
the European Commission on Electronic Administration, “Smarter, Faster, Better 
eGovernment”, published on 19 Nov 2009 in Sweden.



  
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Re: [Goanet] Goan / Indian Attitudes Towards Dirt and Filth Privatelyand Publicly

2009-11-23 Thread Frederick Noronha
They say, whether a poor man steals bread, or a rich man does so, it's
a crime all the same. What is not said, of course, is that a rich man
has no reason to steal bread (he simply takes over the State and
rewrites the rules!)

The debate on garbage is something like that.

If you jump to conclusions, my views might seem like a defence of the
Right To Be Dirty. Which it is not.

What I'd like to say is that dismissing certain civilisations or
countries or regions as dirty is a very easy task. Till you realise
how politically biased such an endeavour is

The problem perhaps is not just dirt. It goes far deeper.

If you have 14 million people living in the city of Mumbai (more than
the population of many European countries... in one city!) what kind
of sanitation and infrastructure do you expect them to have? If we
displace large village areas -- because of lack of employment
potential -- and herd them into unkempt cities, do we expect
hospital-like sanitation?

Pause to think: why is it that so many Goan villages are actually
quite clean? What suddenly happens to a town like Mapusa that makes it
so dirty, it's buildings unpainted, and its citizens appearing to lack
any sense of civic pride?

Why do our clean villages get dramatically transformed when mining
takes hold of the area, or there is a tourism or real-estate boom
there? And what role do all of us play, as middle-men in mining,
earning out of tourism, or buying a flat in Goa? Are our hands all
that clean, simply because we leave behind no trail to the dirt
created by our consumerism, greed of lucre or selfishness?

In our younger days, in the 1970s, how did we dispose of garbage? We
just took it in a weekly bucket, and dumped it on a hillside near the
home. Much of it bio-degraded, the exception being some old rubber
chappal that came floating down with the rains some months later.

Can we do the same today when a single visit to the village
supermarket has me ending up with 17 plastic bags in which every
conceivable product is packed?

Did you notice how rich people tend to look pretty or handsome? The
same with dirt. It's easy, if you have the resources, to simply push
it under the carpet! Or to someone else's country.

Every Made in China product that comes over here, sometimes taken on a
round-the-world cruise via the US, reminds me of how much our
neighbours are polluting themselves for socialist China to prop up
global capitalism and consumerism. Likewise, we might only see it via
the barges in the Mandovi, but isn't Goa too simply denuding its
interior badly to prop up Chinese and South Korean and Japanese steel
giants?

When I saw a calendar put out by Ciba Geigy focussing on the scenic
spots of Switzerland, it just struck me how just the situation is. It
reminded me that the Swiss keep their own backyards extremely clean,
after exporting their very profitable, very polluting pesticides
plants to places like Santa Monica (near Old Goa). And the name
reminds us that land there was sold to the enterprise at 60 paisa a
square metre, for which the Church rightly gets criticised, in times
when we are more awake to issues like land and the environment.

Of course, maintaining cleanliness isn't about just what we see on
the surface. It's also got to with the dirt we create and hide. This
book which I came across some years ago, is an amazing read on why we
are dirtier than we think we are:
http://www.amazon.com/Stuff-Secret-Everyday-Things-Report/dp/1886093040

FN

PS: To Augusto -- do people fling their garbage into the yard once
they lose a significant stake in their place? At what point does
this come about? And why?
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[Goanet] The Rich Get Richer While The Poor Get Poorer

2009-11-23 Thread Freddy Fernandes
The Rich Get Richer While The Poor Get Poorer

 

Individually, Indian billionaires have nearly doubled in just one year from 27
to 52 according to Forbes magazine, literally speaking it is indeed a proud
moment for all Indians that we have so many Indians, in the top rich people of
the world, but does it matter to the avalanche of poor in India, how do they
benefit from this disproportionate distribution of wealth ? With the number of
rich increasing, so is the number of poor, and the gulf between the two has been
moving further apart. How can India sustain this ever increasing void between
the poor and the super rich or will India ever be able to reduce this unhealthy
void ?  

 

We may proudly proclaim our conquest of the space, or our nuclear capability, or
even the global economic meltdown that somehow did not affect us as much as it
did, the rest of the world. We can compete with the best in science and
technology and may even claim to be a world super power but we still house the
world largest slums, world largest child labour population, and India is one of
world's largest crime centers and it is most certainly poverty and illiteracy
that that paves the way for most of these anomalies. 

 

India's two biggest problems in bridging the gap between the super rich and the
utter poor, is it's very large unproductive population. The second being
education, the major chunk of this unproductive population is illiterate, which
does not help either,  lack of education combined with an unproductive
population is an explosive cocktail for economic disaster and our politicians
don't seem to be interested in a remedy for it.

 

In India, along with the best in the world we have the worst as well, but here
the worst out weighs the best by a long long way and that's a pity. Sixty two
years of independence and poverty is still a monkey on our backs.  At every
election, irradiation of poverty stays on top of the agenda of every party, but
once in power, it's all very conveniently forgotten and the poor get poorer
while the rich get even richer. It's only the two bit politicians who become
multi millionaires overnight in politics.

 

There is no doubt that the number of schemes for the upliftment of the poor come
out in dime a dozen, but that is as far as it gets, because when it comes to
implementation, the politicians and our bureaucrats somehow loose their sense of
urgency and direction, like men in the middle of an ocean, on a cloudy night
with no compass, nor the luminaries of the universe above, for guidance.

 

Education is a must for social and economic upliftment, the illiteracy ratio
does not seem to lower, especially in the north eastern states. Only through
education comes awareness and it is this Ace that our politicians hide up
their sleeves, because once educated, people will know of their rights and
privileges as citizens of free India, educated people are also a little bit more
difficult than uneducated to misguide and mislead. Goa being an exception, where
even the educated are still very much gullible. This is one major reason that
education does not become a priority for our corrupt politicians and hence they
hold sway over the minds and the lives of the poor people, making them their
slaves, with just an occasional sari or few hundred rupee notes thrown their
way. Until and unless the masses are educated, our unproductive population and
our adverse poverty will always be a colossal barrier on the path of progress
and on any attempt to reduce the void between the poor and the super rich.

 

It is our politicians and the bureaucrats who have to change their precepts in
totality, forget about themselves and their selfish desires and work earnestly
for the welfare of the country and it's people, only them will we be able to see
a truly unique India, on the path of progress and prosperity, with a minimum
difference between the rich and not so rich.

  

Freddy Agnelo Fernandes


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[Goanet] Fw: Big Band Panorama: Jazz

2009-11-23 Thread eric pinto




my Internet radio programme,
features big bands this week, from today until Sunday 29 November.
The schedule and link to connect to the station are attached.

Best - SP.


  


Re: [Goanet] Goan veterans

2009-11-23 Thread Frederick Noronha
2009/11/23 Tony de Sa tonyde...@gmail.com:

Dear Tony,

Permit me to indulge in one of those practices which we Goanetters are
prone to -- catching the debate by its tail, and taking it on quite
another road!

 And didn't Augusto throw the first flame bait? Even
 the good Bahamas located Doctor faulted the
 moderators for that!

I know you are a man of The Sciences, but your English (above) is
having me all confused.

Please tell me whether you meant:

- the good Bahamas located Doctor ...
- the Bahamas good located Doctor ...
- the Bahamas-located good Doctor ...
- good, the Bahamas-located Doctor ...
- the just-as-well Bahamas-located Doctor...

Each sentence would, of course, have very differing connotations. But
then, we all take ourselves too seriously :-) FN
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[Goanet] BELGAUM: Catholics Pray For 26/11 Victims, Peace

2009-11-23 Thread Goanet News
Catholics Pray For 26/11 Victims, Peace

By SAR NEWS

BELGAUM, Karnataka (SAR NEWS) -- The Catholic community of Belgaum
offered special prayers for world peace and for the poor, downtrodden
and those in grief and distress, as they observed the feast of Christ
the King here, November 22.

Seeking God’s blessing for all, the Catholics belonging to the Our
Lady of Fatima Cathedral, St. Anthony’s Church, the Immaculate
Conception Church and other churches at Camp and the city took part in
special prayers and processions in their respective areas to
commemorate the day.

Bishop Peter Machado of Belgaum was the main celebrant at the Mass
that was offered at the Fatima Cathedral at Camp. “Jesus is King but
His Kingdom does not belong to this world, as it consists of love,
service and stands as witness the truth,” Bishop Machado said during
his sermon.

“On the feast of Christ the King, the Catholics of Belgaum diocese
offer special prayers for the martyrs of 26/11 terrorist attacks in
Mumbai last year, and pray in a special way for the families of those
who lost their lives in the attacks,” Bishop Machado said speaking
later.

Fathers Eusebio Fernandes, Moses Lobo and James Rajan took part in the
Mass at the Fatima Cathedral. Vicar-general Father Lucio Mascarenhas
headed the procession from St. Anthony’s Church. Father Chaurappa
headed the procession from the Immaculate Conception Church.

Bishop Machado took part in the procession that was taken out from the
Cathedral and went across Convent Road, High Street, Church Street,
and Picket Road.

Singing hymns and reciting the rosary, a large number of Catholics
took part in the peace processions that were taken out in Camp,
Shahapur, Bauxite Road, Khanapur Road, College Road and other areas.


[Goanet] Fwd: illegal hutments !

2009-11-23 Thread Arwin Mesquita
 *Cujira locals demand action against hutments at Annexim*
 **
*HERALD CORRESPONDENT
*

*Warn of another Indira Nagar in the making*

**

*MERCES, NOV 22
*



Is there a slum in the making in Santa Cruz? This apprehension was expressed
by locals from Annexim-Cujira who told the gram sabha that several hutments
have come up in the area, which is growing by the day and threatening to
disturb peace in the area.



The locals demanded that appropriate action should be taken by the panchayat
against these hutments so that the area does not turn into another Indira
Nagar.



Inas Dias of Cujira informed the gram sabha that migrants who live in these
hutments do not have basic amenities and release sewage in the open, which
is become a breeding ground for various diseases.



Deputy Sarpanch Tony Fernandes, who chaired the gram sabha in the absence of
the sarpanch, informed that the panchayat would first issue a notice to the
property owner on which the alleged illegal hutments have come up and
conduct an inspection along with the locals.



He also said that a copy of the notice would also be sent to the police and
concerned authorities and only then any appropriate action would be taken in
accordance with the law.



The issue of construction activities near Bondaval Lake also was debated at
the meeting with locals demanding that no development activity should be
allowed within 500 mtrs of the Lake, as it is a no-development zone.



Initiating the debate, Peter Pires informed that construction activity for a
housing project is currently going on near the lake, which he said would
lead to contamination of lake water once this project is completed and
inhabited by residents.



He demanded that the panchayat should initiate action against the
construction and bring an immediate halt to it.



Speaking on the subject, Reggie Pinto asked the panchayat to write to the
authorities like TCP, forest department and irrigation department, who have
issued licences for the project to immediately cancel these licences as the
project comes under no-development zone.



Later, the gram sabha members passed a resolution opposing any construction
activity within 500 mtrs near Bondaval Lake and demanded that the present
development activity should be immediately halted.



The garbage issue was also discussed with locals demanding that segregation
of waste should be made compulsory for housing societies, which should be
collected in separate bins.



The locals demanded that the panchayat should impose tax on these societies
for picking up their waste and disposing it.



Deputy Sarpanch Fernandes then announced that henceforth the panchayat would
not issue any licences to new projects in the village if they fail to
address the garbage issue.



He further said that for the existing projects, notices would be sent to
housing societies to take up garbage disposal issue on an urgent basis and
if they fail to act, deemed action would be taken by the panchayat.



With plastic waste also becoming a serious menace in the village, locals
suggested that the panchayat should impose a ban on selling of plastic bags
below 14 microns and those who defy the ban should be penalized.



Later, a resolution was passed which stated that shopkeepers who are found
selling plastic bags should be fined Rs 500 and fisher folks, vegetable
vendors, etc should be fined Rs 50.



The deputy sarpanch, however, informed the gram sabha that before
implementing the ban, the panchayat would first issue notices to all
shopkeepers and vendors and give them one month’s time to exhaust their
quota of plastic bags.



Fernandes also disclosed to the villagers that the panchayat is mulling
acquiring land of around 10,000 sq mts, where a market, panchayat house,
waste treatment plant, parking lot and other facilities could be set up so
that the problems faced by the villagers are solved.



“The process is in the initial stage and the Santa Cruz Congress Block
President is helping in speeding up the process,” he further added.



Earlier, a proposal was put forth by senior citizen Sebastiao Araujo who
suggested that the reading of proceedings and agenda and also the
discussions should be done in our mother tongue – Konkani.



Accordingly, the entire gram sabha, to a large extent, was conducted in
Konkani.



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Re: [Goanet] Fw: Big Band Panorama: Jazz

2009-11-23 Thread Frederick Noronha
Eric, Attachments won't show up, of course, on Goanet. What software
do you use to access your internet radio? My favourite is BMPx (a Free
Software, GNU/Linux tool).

BMPx is the successor to Beep Media Player. Tuned in to Annie Lennox
on Instrumental.Net
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMPx

FN

2009/11/23 eric pinto ericpin...@yahoo.com:

 my Internet radio programme,
 features big bands this week, from today until
 Sunday 29 November.
 The schedule and link to connect to the station
 are attached.
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[Goanet] I resign!

2009-11-23 Thread Gabe Menezes
This is an open letter; I resign my life membership of the G.O.A. U.K. Ltd.
with utter disgust. I do not wish to remain a member of an organization run
by persons who have no clue of the Companies Act and who wish to do as they
please. They are not willing to abide by the Constitution; accounts not
audited for good measure.

Once an item is lost at an E.G.M. it cannot be brought back again at a
future E.G.M.

There are more important things in life rather than expending unnecessary
energy. One can take a horse to the water trough but cannot make it drink.

-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM.


[Goanet] NEWS: Punjabi Christian reject Goan Bishops in Pakistan. Nazir Bhatti

2009-11-23 Thread Goanet News
http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/viewnews.php?newsid=1317

Punjabi Christian reject Goan Bishops in Pakistan -- Nazir Bhatti

Philadelphia: February 3, 2009. Dr. Nazir S Bhatti, Chief of Pakistan
Christian Congress PCC, appealed to Pope Benedict to take notice of
Catholic Church in Pakistan where there’s no Punjabi bishop while
99.9% Catholics are Punjabi speaking.

There are Punjabi reverend fathers in majority but still Goans are
ruling Catholic Christians, which is unjust and unfair. The Bishops
Conference of Pakistan, comprising of these Goan tiny community
declared the killing of Bishop John Joseph, a Punjabi bishop, to be
suicide on intimation of establishment of Islamic Republic of
Pakistan. Bishop John Joseph was great human right activist and a
Punjabi bishop not liked by these Goan bishops who termed his
martyrdom as suicide.

Nazir Bhatti said “these Goan bishops availed an opportunity of
immigration of Christians to Canada and Australia in 1965,  but they
filled applications of their Goan brothers and sisters who are
enjoying life there but not recommended any Punjabi Christians”

“All Goan Catholic community moved to Canada and Australia and Karachi
city which was total base of Goan became vacant in 1970 but still
Goans are our bishops, which cause concerns,” added Nazir Bhatti.

PCC salutes Khadim Wilson Khadim who lunched a movement against Goan
bishops and forced the Vatican to appoint first Punjabi Bishop John
Joseph.

Nazir S Bhatti said that PCC will file memorandum with the Holy Pope
to appoint Punjabi bishops in Pakistan instead of Goan bishops who are
tools of ISI in Pakistan and working against will of Catholic
Christians,

The Goan Bishop Conference of Pakistan favored Joint election system
instead of separate election and funded millions to be VVIP to support
their tools like Shahbaz Bhatti, Cecil Choudry and Mehboob Sada to
propagate against separate electorate.

Nazir Bhatti said, We Punjabi Christian want Punjabi bishops in
Pakistan not Goan bishops who are damaging Punjabi Christians cause.

Nazir S Bhatti said , I have appealed for an appointment with Holy
Pope and I will survey the situation of Catholic Church with his
holiness. PCC is also looking for an early appointment with UNO
Secretary General to submit petition for refugee status to Pakistani
Christians.

[Note: Original text edited for typos.]


Re: [Goanet] Uncle and Aunty vs Mama and Mami

2009-11-23 Thread augusto pinto
On 2009/11/22 Vivian A. DSouza
socorro...@yahoo.comhttp://in.mc940.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=socorro...@yahoo.com
:
 I too was called Uncle when I came to live in Goa
 by everyone, including youngsters.  Being a
 grandfather many times over, I respectfully asked
 them to call me Xapai

Those who were bred on British ways are particularly apt to feel offended
when Goans who are younger  address them as 'Aunty' and 'Uncle'

In my village there was a man called 'Mingu', who although dead, his full
name I will not reveal, as I have enough enemies as it is and I don't want
his descendants to come down on my head threatening me with lawsuits a la
Senhor Dias.

Well, a long time ago, a time when when we were still in half pants, a
friend of mine named Janja and I landed up at his door with a subscription
for some worthy cause. We said something like, UNCLE, please donate
something. Even before the sentence was over he snarlingly roared
at us.Am I your Uncle on your Father's side or your Mother's side!!!??? You
bloody @#$%^...!!! We didn't wait to hear any more and ran as fast our
legs could take us.

At that time we had no clue as to why this British fed if not bred pompous
idiot felt so offended by our respectful way of addressing him. Uncle after
all is only a translation of 'Mam' or 'Titiu' which is but the natural way
of addressing an elder in Goa.

I understood why, when my own brother came to settle in Goa after many years
of service in the British army. He too was similarly cantankerous when kids
called him, in all innocence and respect, 'Uncle'. He insisted that they
either call him Tony or if they wanted to be formal - Mr. Pinto.

Apparently in the British army the correct modes of address, for say Captain
John Smith, are as follows:  formal - Capt. Smith; informal and usually
preferred unless the fellow wanted to pull rank - John. It seems that
calling the person Smith without the honorific 'Mister' or title 'Captain'
was considered derogatory.

This is quite the contrary in Goa where no one would object to be called
Smith by an equal while children would be expected to call him Uncle. And
calling him John would definitely be regarded as disrespectful by children;
and they calling him 'Mr. Pinto' would have sounded quite pretentious.

In Goa people should do as the Goans do - what say you?

FN wrote --- 'Now, I'm waiting for someone to agree with me that the
Goanese
controversy is simply a mix of misunderstanding on the outside, and
over-sensitivity on the inside (among us, 'Goanese'!)'

Well you're right in some ways and wrong in others. When someone who does
not know the conventions, without reflecting calls Goenkars 'Goanese' on the
analogy that the people of China are 'Chinese' then I guess you are right.

Recently a woman of Goan origin wrote a cookbook where she referred to us as
Goanese. Obviously she couldn't have wished to be deliberately offensive to
her fellow Goenkars.

However the controversy must have started (it's my surmise here) when
someone wanted to put the Goenkars down. He may have termed them 'Goanese'
deliberately to liken them to the Chinese who perhaps not too long ago were
regarded with contempt by foriegners. Someone may have objected saying that
we should be called Goans just as the people of America were called
Americans.

After all this guesswork,  I am beginning to believe that what I say is
right. Surely there must be some literature on the origins of the Goans v/s
Goanese controversy. A casual google reveals among other things the
uninformative:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Goanese

And also instead of a reasoned reply there is a  rather enraged and
emotional response from one Colaco:

http://www.colaco.net/1/GoaNiz.htm

I wonder if anyone has more some authoritative  information on this subject.


Also here's a thought:  just suppose that the Chinese overtake America in
economic and military might and America became like what Moira once was - a
Banana Republic - would it be okay if we started calling ourselves Goanese
rather than Goans?

Cheers
Augusto

-- 


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40, Novo Portugal,
Moira, Bardez,
Goa, India
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P 0832-2470336
M 9881126350

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kicking and screaming, back to earth. Most unpleasant.


Re: [Goanet] Where are the Goans?

2009-11-23 Thread floriano
Run up to the IFFI 2004, we had sounded alarm bells for Manohar Parrikar to 
heed. We had said that opening Goa for  IFFI which no other city in India 
wanted would  set dangerous portends for Goa and Goans.


At that time Goans thought that we were over-reacting and that IFFI in Goa 
would be an unparalleled honour for Goa.
We have been proved right after all when the question asked is where are 
the Goans?


Goans will  now have to eat that incredible honour along with the crap that 
IFFI  has generated and will generate in years to come.


Manohar Parrikar's one point agenda was to give entry to his beloved INOX. 
And to achieve this he got the IFFI lock stock and barrel along with the 
casinos in the Mandovi. He was even proposing IFFI off-shore, so just as 
well. And BTW the Manohar Parrikar's INOX cost the tax payers three times 
the actual amount that it would cost.


Where are the Goan???
The guess is, as Soter likes to say, Goans are running after beach shacks 
and hocking prostitutes to make money.



Cheers
goasuraj
9890470896
www.goasu-raj.org



- Original Message - 
From: Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com

To: goa...@goanet.org
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:13 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Where are the Goans?



To Goanet -

Yesterday as I was driving along the river promenade in
Panjim, I could see all the IFFI stalls in place along with
decorations bereft of taste (I hear it is the handiwork
of Francisco Martins, in which case no further explanation
is necessary).  Throughout the entire promenade, it
was difficult to spot a Goan.  The whole place was a
giant ghatipalooza.  Neither was there any sign of Goan
influence at any of the food stalls which were also manned
by - you guessed it - ghatis.  It was a sorry sight - swarms
of loitering ghatis, their dismal body language, the spitting,
the urinating, the lack of public graces and on and on.
There are now more ghatis in Panjim than in central
Bangalore (true story).





Re: [Goanet] Goan/Goanese

2009-11-23 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
In Portuguese, a Goan is Goês (in French it would be Goese) and a Pakistani 
in Portuguese is Pakistanês. I hope that explains the differences in other 
languages. But it is not Goa-n-ese. That would be similar to calling a person 
from India as Indinanese. 



- Original Message 
 From: Michael Ali mikeal...@aol.com
 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
 Sent: Mon, 23 November, 2009 6:57:59 PM
 Subject: [Goanet] Goan/Goanese
 
 Furthermore, in French, a person from Pakistan is not Pakistani but 
 Pakistanese. 
 I too was surprised as being addressed as such by a Frenchman once. But that 
 is 
 how it is in French.


  
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[Goanet] GOAMAP urges President of India to visit Goa's mining areas

2009-11-23 Thread sebastian Rodrigues

Goa Federation of Mines Affected People (GOAMAP) appeals to President of India 
Pratibha Patil currently on visit to Goa to pay urgent attention to massive 
disasters caused by open cast Iron Ore, Manganese and Bauxite mining in Goa.
 
The entire State of Goa is being massively destroyed due to continues 
aggressive mining with the total scandalous blessings from Government of India 
through Ministry of Environment and Forest (MoEF) – that is so lavish is 
careless dishing out of Environmental Clearances, and through Ministry of Mines 
that supervises Goa’s fast pace destruction over exports mostly (86% in 
2008-2009) to China. Goa government too has positioned itself against the long 
term interest of Goa and maintained studied silence over this issue.
 
Large number of attempts by the People of Goa – including the large scale 
oppositions to the mining projects at the Public Hearing conducted under 
Environment Protection Act – has gone without being respected and the Indian 
State has launched colonial aggression against Goa’s population.
 
GOAMAP urges President of India Ms Pratibha Patil to undertakes a visit to 
Goa’s mining belt covering villages of Sirgao, Pissurlem, Mayem, Bordem, 
Lamgao, Bicholim town, Sanvordem, Colamb, Cavrem, Maina, Pali, Advalpal, 
Sancorda and other areas to witness first hand fast paced disappearances of its 
land including paddy fields and western ghats mountains for the sake of Foreign 
exchange to India and nothing to Goa other than a fortune to few mining 
companies including British multinational Vedanta that owns two mining 
companies in Goa – Sesa Goa and Dempos.
 
If President of India Ms Pratibha Patil shares any sympathy and love for the 
People of Goa then she must demand ban on mining in Goa and use her good office 
bring about end to the suffering of People of Goa by putting a halt to mining 
industry in Goa. People of Goa will only be overjoyed and will remain in her 
gratitude forever if she acts boldly against mining industry in Goa.
  
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Re: [Goanet] I resign!

2009-11-23 Thread Jim Fernandes

Welcome to my world.

I did the same thing in New York - though a slight variation. After I  
got out of there, I never went back for any if their functions and  
it's been several years since I quit.


Goan associations, I have come to understand, are full of  
contradictions, back stabbings, old boy networks, crappy rules to suit  
the management needs and gossip of fellow Goans / members abound.


One guy even had a nerve to take me to court and I wished he did. Had  
he done so - not only would he have lost substantial amount of money,  
but more - I would have set him up with the Immigration authorities  
and sent his wife packing back to India for lying to the US govt. on  
their immigration/ marrital status.


I am a straight shooter and don't like it when people bend rules to  
accomodate a few bad eggs.


Some people use warped logic - they think if you lead it to water and  
make it drink - it must be a horse. How stupid?


This year I am attending the Goan X'mas dance organized by NJ Goans.

Jim F
New York


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com  
wrote:


This is an open letter; I resign my life membership of the G.O.A.  
U.K. Ltd.
with utter disgust. I do not wish to remain a member of an  
organization run
by persons who have no clue of the Companies Act and who wish to do  
as they
please. They are not willing to abide by the Constitution; accounts  
not

audited for good measure.

Once an item is lost at an E.G.M. it cannot be brought back again at a
future E.G.M.

There are more important things in life rather than expending  
unnecessary
energy. One can take a horse to the water trough but cannot make it  
drink.


--
DEV BOREM KORUM.


[Goanet] GOAMAP demands CBI inquiry against Goa Ministers, MLAs involved in mining business

2009-11-23 Thread sebastian Rodrigues

Goa Federation of Mines Affected People (GOAMAP) demands CBI inquiry against 
all the ministers and MLAs in Goa legislative Assembly on the lines with former 
Jharkhand Chief Minister Madhu Koda.
 
Accumulation of wealth through direct and indirect interests by Ministers and 
MLAs in Goa Assembly needs to be thoroughly probed by CBI.
 
Over the last few years with boom in exports of Iron Ore from Goa has led to 
number of Ministers and MLAs in Goa legislative assembly to get into mining 
business. Goa exported over 38 million tonnes of Iron alone - of which 86% went 
to China - with number of exporters crossing 50 mark.
 
Due to easy availability of money number of minister and MLAs in Goa 
Legislative Assembly are lured into the mining business as a result Goa has 
been turned into colony of the miners. CBI inquiry will go a long way in 
changing this situation for better. 
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[Goanet] Syngenta’s hide-n-seek with Monocroto phos

2009-11-23 Thread sebastian Rodrigues


Hello!
 
Please visit and comment on the links below:-
 
http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/2009/11/syngentas-hide-n-seek-with.html


Warmly,
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Re: [Goanet] Where are the Goans?

2009-11-23 Thread George Pinto
--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 our boys have turned into pimps.  Most Goans haven't
 seen Panjim at late nights/early mornings.  It is a
 disgrace.  The entire stretch from around the old
 Secretariat becomes a parking zone for the gamblers
 and fornicators on their night out on the water.
 
 Well, if this is what Goans want


As one Goan wrote to me today there is a virtual traffic jam of the barges on 
River Mandovi. You can imagine how they are mining Goa to death. While Goa is 
being destroyed, there are several endless posts on Uncle/Aunty, 
Goans/Goanese. 

Yes, if this is what Goans want

George


Re: [Goanet] Fw: Big Band Panorama: Jazz

2009-11-23 Thread eric pinto
  One can go to the site, directly:  MYOPUSRADIO.COM
 
Hope it works.  Eric.
Eric, Attachments won't show up, of course, on Goanet. What software
do you use to access your internet radio? My favourite is BMPx (a Free
Software, GNU/Linux tool).

BMPx is the successor to Beep Media Player. Tuned in to Annie Lennox
on Instrumental.Net
http://en.wikipedia.org/w





[Goanet] ST CECILIA FEAST CELEBRATED - Tiatristanche Saunstha

2009-11-23 Thread godfrey gonsalves
The Konknni Non stop tiatristanche  Saunstha celebrated the Feast of St 
Cecilia the Patron saint of Performing artists at the Our Lady of Rosary Church 
Navelim this morning.  A significant  number of tiatrists partook in the 
celebrations followed by a luncheon get-together. See attachment for photos.

GODFREY J. I. GONSALVES,
BORDA, MARGAO, 403 602, GOA. (INDIA)
+91 98221 58584 (24 HRS) 
gonsalvesgodfre...@yahoo.co.in


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[Goanet] Goa Committee to prevent Inter-State drugs trafficking activities

2009-11-23 Thread Goa Desc
  ---
Do GOACAN a favour, circulate this email to your
family members, relatives, neighbours and friends.
Help CONSUMERS in Goa to be better informed.
--
---
Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre (GDRC)
Email: goad...@bsnl.in
---
---
Goa Committee to prevent Inter-State drugs trafficking activities
---
Department of Finance
Revenue  Control Division

Order
No. 2/1/2003-Fin(RC)
Government is pleased to re-constitute a State Level Co-ordination
Committee under the Chairmanship of Secretary (Finance) and with
the following members:-

1. Secretary (Finance) … Chairman.
2. Nominee of Director General of Police….Member.
3. Zonal Director NCB, Mumbai or his nominee  … Member.
4. Commissioner of Customs, Goa  … Member.
5. District Collector (North Goa) … Member.
6. District Collector (South Goa) … Member.
7. Superintendent of Police, Anti-Narcotic Cell… Member.
8. Director, Social Welfare Department   … Member.
9. Director, Food and Drugs Administration … Member.
10. Director, Health and Family Welfare Department Member.
11. Dy. Director, SIB   … Member.
12. Commissioner of Excise, Panaji Secretary.  … Member

Functions of the Committee:
(i) To co-ordinate activities of different agencies like Police, Customs,
Central Excise, State Excise and Narcotics Control Bureau for
prevention/detection of inter-State drugs trafficking activities.

(ii) To recommend schemes for organization of task forces under
the State Police Department and State Excise Department for the
purpose of prevention and detection of crimes under the Narcotics
Drugs and Psychotropic Substances (NDPS) Act, 1985.

(iii) To recommend schemes for creating infrastructural arrangements
of de-addiction of drug addicts, establishing of counseling centers
and other measures for an intensive campaign against the evil effects
of drug addiction by State Government agencies andthrough voluntary
organizations in the field.

(iv) To monitor the performance of various organizations regarding
detection and prevention of crimes under the Narcotics Drugs and
Psychotropic Substances Act.

(v) To establish a process of proper information flow among the
different agencies and to the State Government.

The Committee shall meet at least once in a quarter.

This issues in supersession of earlier Order No. 2/1/2003-Fin(RC)
dated 05-08-2009.
By order and in the name of the Governor of Goa.
Shrikant M. Polle, Under Secretary Fin(RC).
Porvorim, 6th November, 2009.
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 SERIES II No.34 Page 873/874
19TH NOVEMBER, 2009
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GOA CIVIC AND CONSUMER ACTION NETWORK

promoting civic and consumer rights in Goa
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GOACAN Post Box 187 Margao, Goa 403 601
GOACAN Post Box 78 Mapusa, Goa 403 507
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[Goanet] Contacto Goa tomorrow

2009-11-23 Thread nalini souza
Contacto Goa this Tuesday, 24th November 2009

The 40th episode will be broadcast on:
RTP international - INDIA, PORTUGAL and other places:

Tuesday, 24th November 2009
INDIA  - 2:10pm
PORTUGAL - 08:45am

Wednesday, 25th November 2009

INDIA :07:45am
PORTUGAL  02:15am


Timetable for other countries will be available on-line: www.rtp.pt

Music is the spirit of a Goan’s soul. Every Goan family has someone who is 
musically 
gifted and can sing, play or compose music. But do we know the styles that make 
our 
heart strings strum? To find out about the inclination the style of music of 
the 
Goans, watch the next episode of ‘Contacto Goa’ on RTPi.

Note: Please note that the above timings are based on information available on 
the 
RTP web site at the time of sending out this release. We suggest that viewers 
reconfirm exact timings by checking the website www.rtp.pt on the actual day of 
broadcast or switch on TV earlier.

This episode was directed, produced and presented by Nalini Elvino de Sousa, 
photographed by Sérgio Campos, Nuno Oliveira and Jude Fernandes, edited by 
Sérgio 
Campos and assisted by Prasheela Achrekar.

Further episodes of the third series of Contacto Goa will continue to be 
broadcast 
every 15 days, on Tuesdays at the same time, as given above.
The Contacto team can be contacted by e-mail at contacto...@yahoo.co.in or 
nalini_portu...@yahoo.com
Your comments are always welcome.

If you want to watch any of the previous episodes of CONTACTO GOA you can find 
them 
on the webpage of RTP at :
http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/index.php?tvprog=20155

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[Goanet] Wishing all Tiatrists a Happy Feast of St. Cecilia

2009-11-23 Thread Wilson Mazarello
Wilmix  n’ Sharon
[Professional Stage  Screen Artistes, Playwrights Producers  Directors]
Off: Rhythm House (Goan Music Shoppe), 12A Ashirwad,
Opp.Meenaxi Hotel, Margao,  Goa 403 601 Tel:2714299

Res: T1/C, Kurtarkar Nagar, Near Stadium, Fatorda,
Margao, Goa 403 602.  Tel:2742844
wilson_mazare...@rediffmail.com  Mobile: 9822386579

  Ref :W.S/ Press 
Date: 22. 11. 2009

Press Note, For kind favour of Publishing

Wilmix  Sharon wishes all Tiatrists a Happy Feast of St. Cecilia

Here’s wishing all Tiatrists ( Actors,Musicians, Singers, Dancers  all 
Technicians 
/ Helpers associated with the Konkani Tiatro) and Tiatro-Lovers a Very Very 
Happy 
Feast of St. Cecilia (Patron Saint of all Performing  Artists).
May St. Cecilia continue to inspire us all to take the Konkani Tiatro to newer 
heights.

From: Wilmix  Sharon
( Fellow Tiatrists)




[Goanet] [JudeSundayReflections] First Sunday of Advent

2009-11-23 Thread Jude Botelho
22-Nov-2009

Dear Friend,

In the recent past we have had weather experts warning us of floods, Sunamis, 
earthquakes and natural disasters in different parts of the world. In some 
countries there have been warnings of terrorist bombings and a call to be on 
high alert, to be prepared for any eventuality. When these warnings are issued 
we do not just take them lightly but are on our guard. We want to be ready and 
prepared. Should anything happen, are we prepared to face the end? Are we 
prepared to meet our God? Have a hope-filled weekend preparing for God’s 
coming! Fr. Jude

Sunday Reflections: First Sunday of Advent ‘Watch and pray while you wait for 
Him!  29-Nov-2009
Readings: Jeremiah 33: 14-16;         1 Thessalonians 3: 12-4:2;        
 Luke 21: 25-36;

Today’s first reading speaks of the time when God will fulfil his promises and 
raise up a ‘virtuous branch’ a ‘faithful remnant’ that will do what is right 
for the land. Jeremiah utters these words when he is in prison and Jerusalem is 
under attack. He prophesies that the day of justice is coming for the chosen 
people, who will be saved because of their fidelity; humility and integrity. 
The reading alerts us to the fact that throughout history there have always 
been disasters, both man-made and natural, yet hope remains because of God’s 
promise. We are not to wait in fear but always be prepared for his coming.

Arranging Deck Chairs?
On the night of April 15, 1912, the Titanic hit an iceberg in the North 
Atlantic and sank. Over 1,500 people lost their lives in one of the worst sea 
disasters in history. A few years ago a magazine recalled the great disaster 
and asked its readers this shocking – almost blasphemous – question: “If we’d 
been on the Titanic when it sank, would we have rearranged the deck chairs?” At 
first we say to ourselves, “What a ridiculous question! No one in his right 
mind would ignore wailing sirens on a sinking ship and rearrange its deck 
chairs! “No one with an ounce of sanity would ignore the shouts of drowning 
people and keep rearranging deck chairs!” But as we continue to read the 
magazine, we see the reason for the strange question. And suddenly we ask 
ourselves, “Are we, perhaps, rearranging deck chairs on a sinking ship?  “For 
example, are we so caught up with material things in life that we are giving a 
backseat to spiritual things?
 “Are we so busy making a living that we are forgetting the purpose of life? 
“Are we so taken up with life’s attractions that we are forgetting why God gave 
us life?”
Mark Link in ‘Sunday Liturgies’

Today’s gospel is part of the teachings of Jesus on the end of time. It is a 
warning about the judgement of God and it uses apocalyptic images from Old 
Testament books like Ezekiel and Daniel to describe in dramatic terms the end 
of the world. ‘There will be signs in the sun and the moon and stars; on earth 
the nations in agony, men dying of fear as they await what menaces the world.’ 
These images were further developed in the New Testament book of Revelation. 
The symbols are expressed in imaginative, colourful, hyperbolic stories and 
dramatic warnings. ‘That day will spring on you suddenly, like a trap. Stay 
awake praying all the time for the strength to survive all that is going to 
happen.’ Jesus warns his listeners to take stock of their lives and prepare for 
whatever is to come. He says that the disasters will confront everyone on the 
earth and our response should be to ‘stand erect and hold your heads high 
because your redemption is near
 at hand.’ The challenge for everyone is to review now our lives while we yet 
have time so that we are not taken by surprise and fear when the day of the 
Lord arrives. Are we prepared? What are we doing to prepare ourselves? As 
winter approaches in the northern hemisphere the earth seems to be dying. 
Advent begins at this time and the readings provide us with hope and a way for 
us to reflect on the word of God. What is our response to some of the things 
that confront us today? Are we paralysed with fear? Are we opting out or living 
in faith and hope? Do we believe that God is in charge still and will not let 
us down? What are some of the ways we can prepare to greet the Lord peacefully 
with a good conscience? ‘Come Lord Jesus come!’

The Time Is Now!
A modern lesson in preparing for Jesus’ coming is the story of a junior 
executive who approached his grouchy boss to tell him how deeply he admired his 
creative genius. The boss was very surprised, and also deeply impressed. That 
night the boss came home to his 14-year-old son and sat him down. He said, “The 
most incredible thing happened to me today,” and told him the story. Then he 
continued, “As I was coming home tonight, I thought about you. When I come home 
I don’t pay a lot of attention to you. Sometimes I scream at you for not 
getting good enough grades in school and for your bedroom being a mess. But 
somehow tonight I just wanted to sit here 

[Goanet] WBAI Board Candidate Arun Aguiar Sings for a Revolution

2009-11-23 Thread Venantius J Pinto
WBAI Board Candidate Sings for a Revolution
Arun Aguiar is a Goan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5yeyy-6uLQ

HIs father was Prof. Aguiar (Vice Principal, and
Professor of English, Logic, Philosophy, Latin).
He was also Knight Commander of Order of
St Gregory, and President of the Catholic
Association of Bombay. Arun's mother was
Prof. Yvette Coelho (Head of Dept. of French)
at St. Xaviers. Mumbai.

+++
venantius j pinto


[Goanet] Iffi... images

2009-11-23 Thread Frederick Noronha
Some pics from the 40th IFFI
http://photosfromgoa.notlong.com
-- 
Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490
Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism


[Goanet] Punjabi Christian reject Goan Bishops in Pakistan

2009-11-23 Thread John DSouza
The above mentioned story carries many false statements. 
 
Firstly, there are still ( thank God) about 10,000 Goans in Pakistan about 
9,700 of them  in Karachi alone.
 
Also, Goans were never helped by the church to migrate to the West. However, 
the Protestant churches did help in sending large amounts of Punjabi Christians 
to the west under the Special Agricultural Workers ( US SAW Visas program ) of 
the mid-70's. Many were also sent to train at church run seminaries never to 
return.
 
Bishop John Joseph of Faisalabad shot himself in the head outside the a 
Courthouse  in broad-day light in front of hundreds of people on May 6, 1998. 
(See Daily Dawn, Karachi of May 7, 1998.)
 
Later it transpired that he did so to cover up massive financial wrong doings 
and avoid being defrocked by the Vatican. Still he did considerable financial 
damage to the diocese of Faisalabad and left it broke. His close lady associate 
also managed to take away the parish-owned land cruiser.
 
It is also wrong to say that there are no Punjabi bishops..currently there are 
two Punjabi Bishops...Sebastian Shah of Lahore and Rufin Anthony of 
Rawalpindi-Islamabad.
 
The Goan clergy do not meddle in politics...and it was a government decision to 
revert to the Joint Electorate system which was the norm from the creation of 
Pakistan until the dictator Gen. Zia-ul-Haq imposed the Separate Electorate 
System under pressure of the mullahs. In the Separate Electorate system 
minorities can only vote for a minority candidate which were only 10  out of 
237 National Assembly members. 
 
The vast majority of minorities of Pakistan left cut of from the main stream 
and held many protest demonstrations etc to restore the Joint Electorate System 
under which one can vote for any candidate irrespective of religion and it was 
re-instated by Gen. Musharraf.
 
regards,
 
John
 
 
 
 
 
 





[Goanet] Azulejos

2009-11-23 Thread Bernado Colaco
I think the late Arq Figueiredo (primeiro primo of Gabriel) was also 
responsible behind the introduction of 'Noketra' technology in Macau. This 
technology has now seeped into chinese decorations and used for their 
festivals. 
 
BC
 
er ... thanks in part to late Arq. Fortunato de Figueiredo, a Marg?okar,?who I 
understand was in charge of some of the works before the handover to China. 





[Goanet] Goan/Indian attitude to dirt filth.

2009-11-23 Thread Bernado Colaco
This is neat apology for the dirt/filth. Throw hands in the air and say what 
can we do?
 
BC
 
They say, whether a poor man steals bread, or a rich man does so, it's
a crime all the same. What is not said, of course, is that a rich man
has no reason to steal bread (he simply takes over the State and
rewrites the rules!)

The debate on garbage is something like that.

If you jump to conclusions, my views might seem like a defence of the
Right To Be Dirty. Which it is not.

What I'd like to say is that dismissing certain civilisations or
countries or regions as dirty is a very easy task. Till you realise
how politically biased such an endeavour is

The problem perhaps is not just dirt. It goes far deeper.

If you have 14 million people living in the city of Mumbai (more than
the population of many European countries... in one city!) what kind
of sanitation and infrastructure do you expect them to have? If we
displace large village areas -- because of lack of employment
potential -- and herd them into unkempt cities, do we expect
hospital-like sanitation?






[Goanet] Life's a gamble?

2009-11-23 Thread Joel Moraes
Life’s a gamble?
Joel Morais, Cuncolim
Vasco da Gama never planned his voyage to Goa. While gambling with his ship 
boat, he reached Goa. 
The present Goa Government itself is a gamble. The builders, with the help of 
politicians in power, gamble with our beautiful fields, with most of them 
turning out to be winners. The midday meal to the school children is a gambling 
racket with the lives of innocent schoolchildren. Politicians are seen gambling 
with the Canacona flood relief funds with government recruitments. RTO 
inspectors are seen gambling with the licenses and government hospitals with 
the life of the poor patients. What is the draw of lots for shacks if not a 
gamble? The government has gambled with the once beautiful state of Goa in the 
name of Regional Plan, River Princess and many other things. 
We all gamble at one point or the other. As such, there is nothing 
controversial in some of Goa’s top police officers were caught gambling in a 
casino





[Goanet] Goa news for November 24, 2009

2009-11-23 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Increase green cover in mining belt: Prez - Herald
Publications
arming/Global-warming-eroding-Goa-beaches-Governor/articleshow/5261239.cmsusg=AFQjCNEAHBIUeQbs74lxddFa1meS_vdEzwGlobal
warming eroding Goa beaches: Governor
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=30308cid=2usg=AFQjCNEqJST1OpGZ7W8hCR-r0p0Cze_BtQ

*** Indian film fraternity heads to Goa as IFFI kicks off -
IBNLive.com
ay festival brings together over 200 films from 50 ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://ibnlive.in.com/news/indian-film-fraternity-heads-to-goa-as-iffi-kicks-off/105834-8.html?from=tnusg=AFQjCNFsxvs_hobNIkRV3Ob1uRvyGAEWHw

*** Aamir miffed with Pratik Babbar - Times of India
ut, adds the ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://movies.indiatimes.com/News/Aamir-miffed-with-Pratik-Babbar/articleshow/5260590.cmsusg=AFQjCNHrU_fzRzuVxghnCWDfBVBBqqrj5A

*** Sporting signs Japanese defender - Rediff
ndia/news/1064/i-league/2009/11/23/1641728/i-league-sporting-look-to-japanese-to-solve-their-defensiveusg=AFQjCNG38TNPVbOjmfq9SrldTRP5S0SL9wI-League:
Sporting Look To Japanese To Solve Their Defensive Woes
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://sports.rediff.com/report/2009/nov/23/sporting-signs-japanese-defender.htmusg=AFQjCNEBRbHvbzNy9Prcv5OgbWHNKU207A

*** Envoy recalls role of Goan artisans in Brazil churches -
Gulf Times
lf TimesGoa and Brazil share a number of similarities dating
back to Portuguese colonial rule, namely language, culture, art
and football, said Brazilian Ambassador ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2item_no=328126version=1template_id=36parent_id=16usg=AFQjCNFV5LUHp78AclF6NBJ9k2OX83j0Eg

*** Kuwait: Goan Student Goan Student Desiree Noela Dias Bags
GUST Award - Daijiworld.com
oa and residing in Margao-Goa, ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=68726n_tit=Kuwait%3A+Goan+Student+Goan+Student+Desiree+Noela+Dias+Bags+GUST+Awardusg=AFQjCNENFQZIDYdtVpKN4mUi6gH72jiPjg

*** Asin's name misspelt by Goa CM! - Buzz18 India
zz18 India[Nov 23, 2009]   Panaji, Nov 21 (IANS) Goa Chief
Minister Digambar Kamat Saturday pronounced popular actress
Thottumkal's name as Asian, and when quizzed over ...a
class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://buzz18.in.com/news/movies/asins-name-misspelt-by-goa-cm/171092/0usg=AFQjCNEpGACMyc5D7MxTpSoctbTh1L-OCg

*** Guns And Butter Are No Recipe For Wellness Under Overhaul -
NPR
un HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius from decreeing that 'no
guns' is somehow healthier. ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2009/11/guns_and_butter_are_no_recipe.htmlusg=AFQjCNGQ5exoQKgVmopdFilZxhfFg-xVYg

*** State rejects patrol boats from Goa yard - Times of India
mes of IndiaMUMBAI: Days before the first anniversary of 26/11,
the state government has refused to take delivery of special
patrol boats from Goa Shipyard Limited ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/State-rejects-patrol-boats-from-Goa-yard/articleshow/5259068.cmsusg=AFQjCNH-K8duvGDAiKfnbl_pIm_8w--tRQ

*** Iffi fever takes over Goa - Times of India
mes of IndiaFrancisco Martins, member of the creative deco
committee, has made it a point to adorn the corniche with
brightly painted cardboard Goan houses, ...a class=
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Iffi-fever-takes-over-Goa/articleshow/5259289.cmsusg=AFQjCNF3W6E_B8UIVbIZH5XHy2JWkOvVfQ


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Congratulations! Porbim!! Parabence!!! Mabrouk!!!! to Desiree Noela Dias

2009-11-23 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
Congratulations to Desiree Noela Dias
She is the First Expatriate Indian and First Goan in Kuwait to get this 
prestigious 
award from GUST (Gulf University for Science and Technology), Kuwait.

A Goan student, Desiree Noela Dias, hailing for Carmona, Salcette-Goa and 
residing 
in Margao-Goa, India has graduated with honors in Computer Science.

Desiree is the only Foreign Student ever, studying in Kuwait, to get this 
honor. The 
only expatriate Indian and the First ever Goan in Kuwait to get this 
prestigious 
award from GUST (Gulf University for Science and Technology) - the highly 
ranked 
private university in Kuwait which is affiliated to St. Louis University (USA).

DESIREE was presented a MEDAL OF HONOR and diamond pendant with chain for her 
marvelous academic achievements by GUST at ceremony held on November 17th 2009. 
As a 
bright academic student throughout, she was also awarded a silver cord and 
another 
special gift as honored student additional to her graduation certificate.

She had been a studious scholar throughout her four years in College as she had 
been 
also awarded a scholarship abroad to do her summer course with GUST-affiliated 
University at St. Louis (USA)..

DESIREE is the daughter of Merces Dias (Managing Director - Super Middle East 
Freight  Logistics W.L.L.)  Ida Dias (Administrator to the Office of Vice 
President for Health Sciences Center at Kuwait University)  sister of Hagen 
Dias 
(Postgraduate of Radford University, Virginia, presently working in USA).

She is a member of the Salmiya Parish Youth Group (SPY) and also an active 
Catechist 
in Holy Family Cathedral, Kuwait. She is an alumni of Carmel School – Kuwait 
upto 
12th Standard.

Desiree's future plan: To travel to European Countries to study MSc in Computer 
Science and then PhD. if God permits.

At the outset, we say “Congratulations! Porbim!! Parabence!!! Mabrouk and 
we 
wish her all the best and God choicest blessings in her future endeavors!



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[Goanet] What's in a name?

2009-11-23 Thread Joao Barros-Pereira
With all the bickering on Goaney nowadays it appears so much like Goa or
Goan or Goanese - take your pick! What's the difference? Cheers, Joao


[Goanet] Pro Badminton league Finals: Photographs

2009-11-23 Thread Sandeep Heble
Dear all,

The Finals of the Pro Badminton league were played at the Indoor
Stadium on Sunday.

In the thrilling summit clash, Models Eagles who were unbeaten in the full
Tournament continued their formidable streak to win the trophy with a
scintillating 3-2 victory over PBC Gladiators.

Photographs available at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35353...@n07/sets/72157622864948172/


Re: [Goanet] Where are the Goans?

2009-11-23 Thread Frederick Noronha
The problem is, you talk to five Goans, and you get six different
issues of what are the most pressing problems of the State at any
given point of time. We share little of a common understanding -- as
the Aunty/Uncle, Goan/Goanese discussions only underline very
strongly.

I doubt very much that fulminations from another continent (or during
holidays here) are going to take us any closer to the solutions that
Goa need. FN

2009/11/23 George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com:
 --- On Sun, 11/22/09, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 our boys have turned into pimps.  Most Goans haven't
 seen Panjim at late nights/early mornings.  It is a
 disgrace.  The entire stretch from around the old
 Secretariat becomes a parking zone for the gamblers
 and fornicators on their night out on the water.

 Well, if this is what Goans want


 As one Goan wrote to me today there is a virtual traffic jam of the barges 
 on River Mandovi. You can imagine how they are mining Goa to death. While 
 Goa is being destroyed, there are several endless posts on Uncle/Aunty, 
 Goans/Goanese.

 Yes, if this is what Goans want

-- 
Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490
Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
ANOTHER GOA: http://tiny.cc/anothergoa


Re: [Goanet] Goan/Goanese

2009-11-23 Thread newton filomeno
Hi all you thoroughbred Goans!

I think someone did mention that the Aglo-Indians from India called Goans, 
Goanese.
Rightly so; 'Anglo-Indians from Australia still call Goans, Goanese.
This is either because:
1. They we told so by their elders, and so it went on until this day.
or 2. They just did it in disgust, because they couldn't stick to the fact that 
Goans posed a threat to them, with their language prowess and culture as well.

Some people still do this to the Chinese all over the world.

The point is: Point it out to them when they falter! and I am fairly sure, 
like 
Gabriel said, why nor Indianese for Indians. They then will get the message.
And I do not think it is a literal translation from any other language, be it 
French 
or Portuguese. They just want to let us down!
Should that bother you? Prove it to them that you are better by good example 
and 
good deeds!

Cheers to that!
Newton Marques. 




[Goanet] Daily Grook #575

2009-11-23 Thread Francis Rodrigues

DAILY GROOK #575

AIR FAIR

by Francis Rodrigues




the airlines racket
of taxes pls beware,
whats on the ticket
is simply not fare!



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[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (24Nov09)

2009-11-23 Thread alexyz fernandes
***   IFFI   ***

Politicians are always under pressure when they've to beg for Votes...

Or Buy their Votes!


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit:   www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by  www.goasudharop.org 




[Goanet] Novena Feast of St. Francis Xavier (Bahrain)

2009-11-23 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
Novena  Feast of St. Francis Xavier


The Goan Community of Bahrain will have the opportunity to attend and pray 
togather 
in Konkani as the Sacred Heart Church, Bahrain has made arrengements to conduct 
the 
Novenas and feast of St. Francis Xavier (Geoncho Saib) with a priest from Goa.

Fr. Rico Fernandes, will arrive into Bahrain to preach during the Novenas 
begining 
on November 24. There will be Rosary and singing of litany in Latin, half an 
hour 
before the mass everyday. The mass on Tuesday, November 24 will be at 7 p.m. in 
the 
Multipurpose Hall. For the timings and full schedule of 9 days, parishioners 
may 
refer the church notice board.

Those who intend to offer masses during the Novenas may contact Francis Correia
(39659539), GR Crasto (39083239) or Hilary Tellis (39222348). The feast mass on 
December 3, will be at 7 p.m. in the Multipurpose Hall and is offered by Young 
Goans 
Club.
St. Francis Xavier is the patron saint of the club, and the club has been 
celebrating this feast coinciding with the Annual Day of the Club for the past 
55 
years.

The club has also announced a get togather of members and their families as a 
part 
of this celebrtation, soon after the feast mass on December 3. The event takes 
place 
at Baan Saeng Thai Restaurant auditorium, in Adliya and live band 'Night 
Shades' 
will be in attendance.

http://www.sacredheartchurchbahrain.org/


(GR Crasto)
Posted by Goa-World.COM






[Goanet] CONDOLENCE - Aquino Francisco Pereira

2009-11-23 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
CONDOLENCE
In Loving Memory of

Aquino Francisco Pereira
(Ex-Kuwait Airways - Line Maintenance)
Died - 2 Oct 2009

Photo:
http://picasaweb.google.ca/GoanetBlog/Obits#5407530469177844546


There will be a requiem mass for his soul at 7:15 a.m. on Wednesday, November 
25, 
2009 at the Holy Family Cathedral, Kuwait City.

May his soul rest in peace.


Info source: Arab Times
Posted by Goa-World.COM 




[Goanet] Letter to the Editor (Oheraldo) - Special Status promise to Preserve Goa's Identity

2009-11-23 Thread Arwin Mesquita
http://www.oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=30273cid=13

Update, please!
Arwin Mesquita (UAE)
Sonia Gandhi had promised Special Status for Goa whilst campaigning in the Lok 
Sabha 
2009 Elections. The Goa Assembly had also passed a resolution on the issue. The 
Goa 
Government should provide Goans with an update regarding the progress on this 
matter.



-- 
Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/

Please also see below:
1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/

2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/

3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/

4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: 
http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html

5. For the Love of Konkani: http://www.radiogoa.net/

6. Goa's Identity Movement website: http://www.goamag.net/gim

7. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/






Re: [Goanet] Goan/Indian attitude to dirt filth.

2009-11-23 Thread Frederick Noronha
Not what can we do but there are deeper reasons which can't be
ignored. Was London always a paragon of cleanliness? And how did
China manage it -- I mean to clean (and now pollute itself on a mega
scale)? FN

2009/11/24 Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk:
 This is neat apology for the dirt/filth. Throw hands in
 the air and say what can we do?

-- 
Frederick Noronha :: +91-832-2409490
Writing, editing, alt.publishing, photography, journalism
ANOTHER GOA: http://tiny.cc/anothergoa


[Goanet] NATIVE CATHOLICS v/s MIGRANT CATHOLICS

2009-11-23 Thread jorge r
 Bombay is the only part in India where the native catholics don't dominate
the catholic churches/schools/hospitals/institutions,etc inspite of the fact
that all the catholic churches/schools/hospitals/institutions,etc in bombay
stand on the lands donated by the native catholics.

The native catholics also don't control the vacant church properties in
Bombay which at present market value runs into thousands of crores of rupees
and which were also donated by native catholics.

So who is dominating and controlling the parish councils, church committees,
catholic school committees, parish buildings, catholic
churches/schools/hospitals/institutions, vacant church properties,
archbishop house, etc in Bombay. The answer is Mangalorean catholics and
this is the reason why the mangalorean catholics in bombay have prospered.

Due to the domination by the Mangalorean catholics the native catholics of
bombay who are locally known by the name eastindians ( or marathi speaking
catholics) have been sidelined. This is the reason why the native catholics
in Vasai to free themselves from the clutches of the mangaloreans separated
from the Bombay diocese and created their Vasai diocese.

Go in any East Indian Gaothan (village) in Bombay and you will find majority
of catholics living are Mangaloreans. Most of these mangaloreans during the
1960s and 70s came to live on rent. Since eastindians were poor and ignorant
they did not make proper leave  license agreements which the mangaloreans
took advantage of and refused to vacate the rooms which the eastindians had
given to them on rental basis.

Bombay catholic native lands - http://www.bombayland.blogspot.com

Bombay catholic native culture - http://www.east-indians.com

Jorge Rodrigues
Bombay.


Re: [Goanet] Where are the Goans?

2009-11-23 Thread Mario Goveia
--- On Sun, 11/22/09, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 our boys have turned into pimps.? Most Goans haven't
 seen Panjim at late nights/early mornings.? It is a
 disgrace.? The entire stretch from around the old
 Secretariat becomes a parking zone for the gamblers
 and fornicators on their night out on the water.
 
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:09:47 -0800 (PST)
From: George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com

As one Goan wrote to me today there is a virtual traffic jam of the barges on 
River Mandovi. You can imagine how they are mining Goa to death. While Goa is 
being destroyed, there are several endless posts on Uncle/Aunty, 
Goans/Goanese. 

Mario adds:

I don't think the important discussions of Uncle/Aunty, Goans/Goanese, 
traffic jams on the streets and the Mandovi, gamblers, drunks, urinators, 
defecators, pimps and fornicators should interfere with discussions of more 
serious issues like Goa's picturesque hillsides being defaced by the mining 
industry.  We should be able to discuss all these issues simultaneously. 

It seems easier said than done to just stop mining in Goa that has gone on for 
well over a hundred years.  How would they replace the jobs and income and the 
taxes that are derived from this major industry?

A couple of months ago we saw some fiery posts from Carmen Miranda threatening 
dire consequences for the miners for defacing Goa.  No news of whether she was 
able to make any progress.

I had suggested that Goa should have conditions in their licenses and mining 
permits for the miners to rehab the hillsides and replant trees that were lost 
once the ore was depleted.  This way one of Goa's primary industries could 
continue to function while reclaiming the land in the longer run.  This could 
also create jobs for landscapers.  Carmen responded that there were such laws 
on the books in Goa.

Do any Goanetters who live in Goa know whether there are such laws in Goa, and 
if so, why they are not being followed?  Yeah, yeah, yeah!  I know all about 
the corruption, but there has to be a law first.

Can any of our intrepid friends like Valmiki, Floriano, Ana Marie, Venita, 
Ethel, Vivek, Fred, or anyone else in a position to find out and a passion for 
social service, shed any light on this, even as we continue to discuss the 
important issues that make the world go round like Uncle/Aunty, 
Goans/Goanese, traffic jams on the streets and the Mandovi, gamblers, drunks, 
urinators, defecators, pimps and fornicators that are driving Rajan and George 
crazy, but hopefully not to drink:-))







Re: [Goanet] Where are the Goans?

2009-11-23 Thread George Pinto
Frederick logic in the statement below suffers and here is why: what some expat 
Goans (myself) have been writing is very similar to what Goans in Goa are 
writing, saying on some current issues in Goa. Is it Frederick's position that 
expat Goans are wrong simply by virtue of being expats?

George


--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:

 I doubt very much that fulminations from another continent
 (or during holidays here) are going to take us any closer to the
 solutions that Goa need. FN