Re: [Goanet] Dev borem korum

[rcabral]

I have heard people saying "argam tuka Deva". Will that do? I think there are 
different ways of addressing. May think over it.
All the best. 
Richard Cabral
 Sebastian Borges  wrote: 
> Dear friends,
I have a serious problem.  How do I say "Thank you, God1" in Konkani?  Please 
help.
Mog asum.
Sebastian Borges
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010  Frederick Noronha 
wrote:

You mean it's a blank cheque issued on someone else's account :-) FN

On 7 March 2010 20:20, Antonio Menezes

> note that unlike a ''thank you'' the ''Dev borem korun'' has no quid pro quo
> attached to it.

Sebastian Borges



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[Goanet] Building Bridges – monday muse (15Ma r’10)

[Pravin Sabnis]

 
MONDAY MUSE (15 March 2010)

BUILDING BRIDGES

Two brothers with adjacent farms fell apart after years of farming side by 
side, sharing machinery and labour. The relationship soured because a small 
misunderstanding grew into an exchange of bitter words. The enmity resulted in 
the younger brother excavating the meadow between their lands to create a deep 
trench.

The infuriated elder brother asked a carpenter to block his brother out of view 
by building a high fence. The farmer went to town and returned at sunset to see 
that the carpenter had not built any fence. Instead he had built a bridge 
across the trench! And his estranged younger brother was coming across, his 
hand outstretched and saying, ‘after all I've said and done, you have built 
this bridge’. The brothers laid to rest their differences as they embraced on 
the bridge.

So often, small misunderstandings develop into major rifts. The deepest of 
divides can be overcome, only by the building of bridges. If we cannot bridge 
the gap ourselves, we must permit mutual well-wishers to build the bridge like 
the carpenter did. The bridge of communication helps us to be better at 
crossing across the unwarranted rift in a relationship. 

So many gaps widen only because there were no attempts to bridge the break-ups. 
We must re-look at all our conflicts and examine them to see whether they are 
divergences on values and principles or just frivolous misunderstandings. Most 
of the time, we discover it is the latter and when do realise the fact, may the 
bridge be built!

May we BE BETTER at building bridges of connection… 
to overcome every divisive gap in the bond of association!

- Pravin K. Sabnis 




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[Goanet] Fwd: Urgent Prayers - David Nunes

[Nigel Britto]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Arlette Azavedo 
Date: Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Subject: Urgent Prayers - David Nunes
To:






 Can you please circulate this email to all your friends aking for prayer
for David Nunes, a 14 year old  goan boy (a student of St. Britto's -
Mapusa) who was diagonised with Lung Cancer and now with another
complication. He has a big mass collected near his heart and will be
operated at 10.00a.m. Inidan time today in Bombay. Since this operation is
very delicate we need to storm heaven with our prayers. Our God is merciful
and let us ask God to guide the surgeon operating on him and to heal David.


-- 
ARLETTE AZAVEDO

Cell no. 9422061766
And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in
your years.--





-- 
Dyslexic of the world, untie.

Nigel Britto

[Goanet] A saffron twist to Swami Nityananda's case. RELIGION IS THE OPIUM OF THE PEOPLE KARL MARX

[Ruby Goes]

http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_a-saffron-twist-to-swami-nityananda
-s-case_1358886
Arre Goanetters,
Yeh kya baat hai?
The haldis and the saffrons are always outraged and offended! Nothing better
to do. I'm offended that they are offended.
In the meantime, no water, power cuts, Dowry System, Caste System, bad
roads, not enough toilets, too much Hep B, hospitals without rabies vaccine,
rabid dogs, malnutrition, superstition, corruption, pollution, lack of
housing, filth. Anything else?

Jai Hind!
Rubygoes 

[Goanet] Armand de Souza ... the Morning Leader ... Ceylon

[Frederick Noronha]

Till yesterday, I had not heard about Armand de Souza, who (going by
this Wikipedia entry) played quite an amazing role in Sri Lanka, so
early on in the day:

Armand de Souza born in 1877 in Assagao to the Camotim family, was the
Founding Editor of the Morning Leader in Ceylon. An early freedom
fighter, he was gaoled by the British colonial government for
advocating democracy, but released following public protests at his
incarceration. He was the author of Hundred days in Ceylon under
martial law in 1915[2] and father of Senator Doric de Souza (Professor
of English) and the late Editor of the Times of Ceylon, Tory de Souza.
He died in 1922.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_from_Goa#Writers.2C_Editors.2C_Journalists

* * *

Take a look at one of his books:
Hundred days in Ceylon under martial law in 1915
http://openlibrary.org/b/OL1915M/Hundred_days_in_Ceylon_under_martial_law_in_1915

* * *

'Morning Leader' makes its appearance
Armand de Souza

November 7 has been recorded as the day when another English newspaper
commenced publication. The newspaper was 'Ceylon Morning Leader.' The
year it began was 1907. The newspaper which belonged to the

de Soysa family was synonymous with the name of one single man, the
distinguished journalist, Armand de Souza. The newspaper was
considered a power in the land when it was being edited by him.

He used the newspaper to campaign for democratic reforms of the
Legislative Council to make it a more representative body of the
people. He criticized the colonial government's action in resorting to
martial law during the riots of 1815.

The authorities were angry with the editorials he wrote and once
sentenced him to a month in jail. However, soon after he had to be
released after public protests.

He was editor of the 'Morning Leader' until his untimely death in
1921, at the early age of 47. The newspaper did not last long after
his death and went out of business.
http://sundaytimes.lk/071104/FunDay/heritage.html

* * *

His son was apparently even more radical, as these links would show:

de Souza, Anthony Theodoric Armand (“Doric”) (1914– 1987)
Party pseudonyms: Morera (Moreira), S. Livera
Born Colombo, Ceylon, son of Armand de Souza (1877-1921), the editor
of the nationalist newspaper, Ceylon Morning Leader, founding member
of the Ceylon National Congress, and a leader of the first railway
workers’ union in Ceylon. Educated St. Joseph’s College, Colombo. Went
to UK in 1934 on a scholarship. Joined the India League and a Marxist
study group with other Ceylonese students, London. Returned 1937,
appointed lecturer in English, and joined Lanka Sama Samaja Party.
Attended Bolshevik Leninist Party of India conference 1944; elected to
Central Committee. Leader, BLPI, Bombay, 1944-45. Arrested in Bombay
and jailed, 1945. Colombo Municipal Councilor, 1946-52. Delegate, BLPI
conference, 1947. Senator, 1957-1969. Lecturer, University of Ceylon.
Associate Professor, Kelaniya University, 1970-1982. Permanent
Secretary to Ministry of Plantations, LSSP-SLFP-CP United Front,
1970-74. Author: China 1925-1950: Revolution, Counter-Revolution,
Imperialist and Civil War (1950), The Agrarian Economy of India
(unpublished).
http://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/s/o.htm

* * *

The 16th Death Anniversary of Doric de Souza fell on the 10th of Jan.,
an unsung hero born into a Catholic family. He was the son of the
great nationalist Armand de Souza of Portuguese descend who migrated
from Goa.

Armand, like another migrant, the Tibetan Rev. Mahinda he was to play
a significant role in the anti imperialist struggle of Sri Lanka. He
belongs to the second rung leadership of the LSSP. He was not so well
known like the leaders of the party, such as N.M., Philip, Colvin,
Leslie and Edmund, because he worked mostly in the "underground". His
father Armand de Souza was one of the early anti imperialist leaders
of the country.
http://www.infolanka.com/org/srilanka/people/43.htm

-- 
Frederick Noronha
Columnist :: journalism :: editing :: alt.publishing :: photography :: blogging
P +91-832-2409490 M +91-9822122436  A:784 Saligao 403511 Goa India

[Goanet] An unique Collection?

[JoeGoaUk]

An unique Collection?

I didn’t know that as I thought there are many such collectors.
 
It’s true sometimes I complain..
It’s also true sometimes I thank (with gratitude) to very same people..
Hope people will understand…
 
Thanks to Herald
 
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Re: [Goanet] Frivolous, frivolous writings on Goanet

[Santosh Helekar]

--- On Sun, 3/14/10, Marshall Mendonza  wrote:
> 
> Response:
> I find it highly amusing to find the pot trying to paint
> the kettle black.
> Perhaps the author has forgotten his skin deep secularism
> displayed during
> the debate on the Orissa pogrom against christians.
> 

This type of a reaction is expected when truth is told. This the deficiency of 
character that I find disturbing, which led me to add to what Selma wrote. A 
total inability to see the other side of a legitimate debate, and discern  
objective fact from rhetoric and propaganda. The above statement shows once 
again that there is an utter lack of sense of proportion and understanding of 
what is meant by secularism. Please note the use of the word pogrom in relation 
to what has been recognized as a communal and ethnic riot triggered by the 
murder of a swami and his associates.  

There is also a failure to realize that virtually no independent person agrees 
with this poster on this issue.

Cheers,

Santosh


  

[Goanet] Goa news for March 15, 2010

[Goanet News Service]

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** 36 Hours in Goa, India - New York Times
ight dance parties held under a full moon. But India's popular
seaside destination ...
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*** I-League: Salgaocar Edge Dempo In Thrilling Goa Derby -
Goal.com
laced Dempo 3-2 at the Fatorda on Sunday, after going a goal
down in the first half after Ranti Martins scored. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1064/i-league/2010/03/14/1832412/i-league-salgaocar-edge-dempo-in-thrilling-goa-derby&usg=AFQjCNGyW4pv-tFd4mAl_WaNjvyXq6teBQ

*** I-League Preview: Shillong Lajong SC  Sporting Clube de Goa
- Goal.com
eague debutants entertain bottom placed and winless Sporting.
The win over East Bengal in the last round will give them
confidence ...
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*** Goa tells MinesMin it won't issue fresh mining leases -
Indian Express
dian ExpressWith concerns mounting on the adverse impact of
mining on the environment, the Goa government has decided not to
grant any fresh mining leases in the near ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Goa-tells-MinesMin-it-won-t-issue-fresh-mining-leases/590490&usg=AFQjCNEyWmezfVsIpJLqZ2TEH0ogHeO-Cw

*** Sena rebel in Goa for expulsion of party state chief - Press
Trust of India
ess Trust of IndiaPanaji, Mar 14 (PTI) A Shiv Sena rebel group
today demanded that Goa state President Upendra Gaonkar be
ousted from the post accusing him of being involved ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.ptinews.com/news/564394_Sena-rebel-in-Goa-for-expulsion-of-party-state-chief&usg=AFQjCNH_G5Xn83Q2TkP04cCLU1Qbvr-nSg

*** We have been successful in meeting challenges: Hosur - The
Hindu
ong sustained teamwork by the police of coastal districts and of
Chikmagalur, with support from the Kerala and Goa police, ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.hindu.com/2010/03/15/stories/2010031550820100.htm&usg=AFQjCNHCQx9lrW9BU22l65sTCZrpVbaTqw

*** Argentina team in Goa on a holiday - Times of India
WtbM">
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*** Goa police quizzed on nexus with drug mafia - Times of India
mes of IndiaPANAJI: The Narcotics Control Bureau (NCB) has
contacted the Goa police over the alleged involvement of some of
its officers with the narcotics mafia, ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-police-quizzed-on-nexus-with-drug-mafia-/articleshow/5676021.cms&usg=AFQjCNE_sLvrnQmCdZ_A7W9Ubh9QkbNpkQ

*** Goa gets new naval officer in charge - Times of India
mes of IndiaVASCO: Commodore Ajay K Chhabra has assumed charge
as the naval officer in charge (Goa) and chief staff officer to
the flag officer commanding Goa naval ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-gets-new-naval-officer-in-charge/articleshow/5680940.cms&usg=AFQjCNFahCvd7lMQpdwOnKycBjO8CI34uw

*** Goa wildlife under threat; 2 leopards killed in 2 days -
digITal Goa
gITal GoaThe incidents of last two days are glaring example of
this phenomenon in which two leopards were killed in Goa while
one person was seriously injured in an ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://digitalgoa.com/ca_disp.php?id=888&usg=AFQjCNHvfBkxpQC76pnM2mhu5B5FNYsMPA


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[Goanet] Fwd: Stop a nuclear disaster_PLEASE share any thoughts

[Venantius J Pinto]

Hi all,
One of my JJ batchmates and good friend send me the following.
Are you aware of this. Please share any thoughts you may have.

venantius j pinto
+
Hi Venantius Pinto,
Our government is churning out one hazardous bill after another. This time
it is a bill called the Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage, and it's coming
up for a vote in a couple of days.

The bill lets U.S. corporations off the hook for any nuclear accidents they
cause on Indian soil. They'd only have to pay a meagre amount, and Indian
taxpayers would be stuck paying crores for the nuclear clean up and to
compensate the victims.

Without any public debate, the Prime Minister is appeasing American
interests and ignoring our safety.

Greenpeace is launching a petition asking the PM to hold a public
consultation before introducing the bill.

I have already signed this petition. Can you join me?

http://www.greenpeace.org/india/stop-the-vote

Thanks!



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[Goanet] Leveraging Business for Social Change: Building the Field of Social Business

[armstrong augusto vaz]

 Competition Summary

Artemisia and Ashoka’s Changemakers are launching a global search for model
initiatives and ideas that help build the emerging field of social business.

Submit your solutions that demonstrate how social business initiatives can
thrive and scale-up their impact on quality of life.

The competition will* launch March 15, 2010*. Join us to inspire, inform,
and, connect a new generation of social business entrepreneurs.

Be sure to follow us on Twitter 
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receive regular updates and to give us your feedback.


 Welcome Letter

Welcome to *Leveraging Business for Social Change: Building the Field of
Social Business*.

Artemisia and Ashoka’s Changemakers believe social business is a powerful
engine for serving vulnerable and low-income communities by delivering the
critical goods and services they need to improve their lives and lift
themselves from poverty.

We invite you to help build the emerging field of social business by
submitting social business models that most successfully harness smart
business techniques and strategies to build financially viable social
ventures. We are looking for initiatives that can scale up to improve
millions of people´s quality of life.

By participating in the Leveraging Business for Social Change competition,
you can help identify how the most successful social business models provide
social benefits in emerging markets.

Social businesses are a new breed in every respect: they creatively apply
market forces for social benefit, and they can offer more inclusive
participation in ownership, management, and profit distribution. Social
businesses are pioneering new forms of distribution, pricing for
affordability and community participation all along the value chain.

Help us surface the key challenges and successes of new social business
models. Join us to connect the resources, insights, and skills of social
business entrepreneurs, investors, workers, consumers, business specialists,
and other entrepreneurs.
 Guidelines and Criteria

The *Leveraging Business for Social Change competition* is open to all types
of individuals and organizations (charitable organizations, private
companies, or public entities) from all countries. We consider all entries
that

   - reflect the theme of the competition *Leveraging Business for Social
   Change: Building the Field of Social Business*.
   - Indicate growth beyond the concept or research stage. While we support
   new ideas at every stage and encourage their entry, the judges are better
   able to evaluate programs that are beyond the conceptual stage and have
   demonstrated a proof of impact.
   - Are submitted in English, Spanish, French, or Portuguese.

*Please complete the entire entry form and submit before June 9, 2010.*

 *Assessment Criteria*

The winners of *Leveraging Business for Social Change* will be those that
best meet the following criteria:

*Innovation:* This is the knock-out test. The entrant must describe a
systemic and/or transformational solution that most successfully
demonstrates how to build the field of social business. The innovation will
demonstrate a substantially different approach from other initiatives in the
field with potential for replication. The solutions may include:

   - expanded distribution - such as innovations that reach audiences that
   have been underserved or not well understood
   - more thoughtful design - such as breakthroughs that reduce costs and
   allow local sourcing
   - outreach and education - that may shift a culture toward embracing
   solutions
   - creative adaptation - applying a solution in a new context may produce
   surprising results

The ideas and solutions generated through this challenge must spark profound
transformation in the way social businesses achieve financial viability and
scale up the reach and impact of social business initiatives.

*Social Impact:* It is important that the innovation provides a
system-changing solution that builds the field of social business. Some
innovations will have proven success at a small level, while others will
have potential to grow, engaging millions of people. We look for breadth and
depth, numbers and stories that make a substantive difference in the lives
of people at the base of the pyramid.

*Sustainability:* For an innovation to be truly effective it must have a
long-term plan for securing financial support and for increasing community
impact. Entrants should describe not only how they are currently financing
their work, but also how they plan to finance their work in the future. The
most successful entrants describe a long-term vision with regional and or
global targets and the financial model to support them. Entrants should also
demonstrate that they have strong partnerships and support networks that
help achieve the venture’s mission.
http://www.changemakers.com/en-us/socialbusiness

 *Challenge Dead

[Goanet] ‘Sir, don’t... I am not a t errorist,’ pleaded ATS inspector as DCP shot him twice

[Marshall Mendonza]

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/sir-dont...-i-am-not-a-terrorist-pleaded-ats-inspector-as-dcp-shot-him-twice/590554/0

[Goanet] ART Exhibition: Sonia Rodrigues Sabharwal

[Desa, Ehrlich]

Can I please have the mail contact of Sonia?
Thanks 

Ehrlich Desa

 

[Goanet] Ho Mhozo Desh - Konkani Patriotic Song by Wilfy Rebimbus

[Goa World]

Ho Mhozo Desh

Konkani Patriotic Song by Wilfy Rebimbus

For Catholics in India August 15 happens to be a day of twin celebration 
- the Solemnity of the Assumption of Our Lady as well as the day of 
India's Independence.


Here is a video of Catholics in Mangalore singing a patriotic song in 
their native Konkani language.



The song is composed by Wilfy Rebimbus (also seen in the video - extreme 
left) and was sung on the occassion of the 61st Indian Independence Day 
(August 15, 2008) during the flag hoisting ceremony after the solemn 
Assumption Mass at St. Joseph's Church, Jeppu, Mangalore, Karnataka, India.


Posted by Jesuvera

http://konkanicatholics.blogspot.com/2008/08/aug-15-konkani-patriotic-india-song.html



Forwarded by goa-world.com



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[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (15Mar10)

[alexyz fernandes]

***  Drugs - Bail Plea  ***

"He's pleading for BAIL ...not BHEL...Stupid!"


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[Goanet] Frivolous, frivolous writings on Goanet

[Marshall Mendonza]

Santosh Helekar:.
But I would like to defend the position that Marshall and others of his ilk
hold here. After giving a lot of thought to this issue, I have come to the
realization that theirs is a legitimate political position. It is not
pseudo-secularism, nor is it hypocritical. For sure, it is not secularism
either. Their political activism is simply zealous defense of the minorities
and their rights. cause.

Response:
I find it highly amusing to find the pot trying to paint the kettle black.
Perhaps the author has forgotten his skin deep secularism displayed during
the debate on the Orissa pogrom against christians.

Regards,

Marshall

[Goanet] Fwd: M F Hussain : saint or sinner?

[Gabe Menezes]

From: Dr. U. G. Barad 
Date: 14 March 2010 14:10
Subject: [Goanet] M F Hussain : saint or sinner?
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org




I was touched with the following paragraph from Marshall's post:





Does Marshall have reverential pictures of Hindu gods and goddesses in his
house?



Best wishes



Dr U. G. Barad

QUESTION: Do you have reverential pictures of 'Gods' other than Hindu in
your own house?

I have many Hindu erotica in my house in England; my Hindu neighbours in Goa
display both Christian and Hindu Dieties side by side.

I light josss sticks as easily as I burn incense - to keep out the mossies!






-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet] Contacto Goa, next tuesday, 16th March

[nalini souza]

For those who live in Goa, please note that there is a repetition of the 
program at 7:45pm of tuesday, 16th March.


Time is not reliable. Please switch on TV 15min earlier.



Contacto Goa this Tuesday, 16nd  March 2010

The 48th episode will be broadcast on:
RTP international - INDIA, PORTUGAL and other places:

Tuesday, 16nd March 2010
INDIA  - 2:15pm and 7:45pm
PORTUGAL - 08:45am and 2:15pm

Wednesday, 17th March 2010

INDIA :07:30am
PORTUGAL  02:00am


Timetable for other countries will be available on-line: www.rtp.pt

Carnival is a time of fun and frolic. In this episode we are going to 
analyze the roots of the Indo- Portuguese Carnival.


Note: Please note that the above timings are based on information 
available on the RTP web site at the time of sending out this release. 
We suggest that viewers reconfirm exact timings by checking the website 
www.rtp.pt on the actual day of broadcast or switch on TV earlier.


This episode was directed and presented by Nalini Elvino de Sousa, 
edited by Prasheela Achrekar, photographed by Jude Fernandes and Nuno 
Oliveira and has the collaboration of Rohit Phalgaonkar.


Further episodes of the third series of Contacto Goa will continue to be 
broadcast every 15 days, on Tuesdays at the same time, as given above.


The Contacto team can be contacted by e-mail at contacto...@yahoo.co.in 
or nalini_portu...@yahoo.com


Your comments are always welcome.

If you want to watch any of the previous episodes of CONTACTO GOA you 
can find them on the webpage of RTP at :

http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/index.php?tvprog=20155

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Goans don't read enough or write enough... Partying, eating, dancing and sports are what Goans love -- Ben Antao (Frederick Noronha, Gomantak Times)

[Juliet Dias Marques]

HI,

WHERE CAN I FIND THIS BOOK? I LIVE IN DUBAI, APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.

Juliet Dias Mandoly
Email: jul...@mbal.ae

Website: www.mbal..com



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[Goanet] SON'VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: 'Anti-viru s'-uch 'Virus' Gheun Yeta Tednam… - Jose Salvado r Fernandes

[Goa World]

SON’VARACHIM SUNGTTAM:
‘Anti-virus’-uch ‘Virus’ Gheun Yeta Tednam…
-Jose Salvador Fernandes

Konknnicho ek dobazo. Tea dobajeak mhaka to mell’llo. Konknnintlean 
tannem thoddem bhou borovp kelam. Konknni mollaveleo heo-teo gozali 
uloitana tannem mhaka okosmat mhonnlem –


“Hanv tuka fattim melluk yeupachom aslom.”

Khubxea zannanchi “dekilem moddem, yeilem roddnnem” chal mhaka khobor 
asa mhunn, hanv hanslom ani ogich ravlom.


“Hansta kitem? Fokannam korinam hanv. Tuka mellunk yeupa fattlem karonn 
kitem tem zanna tum?” Tannem nettan vicharlem.


“Tunvem sangonastana mhaka koxem kolltelem?” Hanvem tachea proxnak 
proxnacheach rupan zap dili.


“Hanv ek Romi Konknni masik kaddunk yeujitam,” apunn khub kitem mottem 
korunk fuddem sorta oxem aplea jivak somzun to motteponnan uloilo.


“Tacho fattlo hetu kitem?” Hanvem tachem chintop zannun ghevpacho 
proyotn kelo.


“Hetu itloch - Konknnint bhor ghalop.” Tannem horddem matxe fuloun sanglem.

“Oi? Konknnint bhor ghalop ani magir kitem korop?” Hanv.

“Anik kitem korpachem? Kainch na. Voilean Konknnichea itihasant ek masik 
asa mhunn nond zateli.” Tannem odikuch obhimanan sanglem.


“Toxim, Konknnichea itihasant kitlimxinch masikam-potram zolmak yeun 
kalla adinch morun geleant….”

“.”

Gozal fuddem vhorche khatir tache kodde zap nasli. Punn thoddea vellan 
to uloilo –


“Toxem hem masik bond poddunk diupachem na am…. Cholounk samkem sompem 
re tem…. Dor mhoineak sorkarche don ‘full page coloured advertisements’ 
mell’llear puro, anik kitem zai? Zai fokot mhaka tuzo adar zai, editing 
korpak.”


Monant mhonnlem, dusreache ran’nicher adon dovrun ho aplem xit randunk 
sodta!


Aiz Konknnint, amche kodde eka poros odik masikam asat. Hantuntlim kaim 
masikam kallachi goroz mhunn suru zalim. Halinchim thoddim masikam 
Konknnint nove borovpi utpon’n korpache nodrentlean chalu zalim. Thoddim 
fokot Konknnint bhor ghalpache nodrentlean zolma aileant. Punn hem 
sogllem kortana, him masikam Konknni potrokaritent goroz asleli 
mhotvachi bhor ghalunk visorleant hem dolle dhampun konn-ui sangtolo. 
Aichea Konknni masikam-nemalleancher gombhirtayen vichar korunk boslear, 
tantum potrokarita fuloupi gunn sodun-ui mellonant. Dekunuch, hea 
masikamni potrokaritecho mukhel zago choddan-chodd soroll lekh, kovita, 
kotha, ek-anki nattkulim, bhurgeam-kannyo hea sahit’yache prokaramni 
bhouch promannan ghetlolo dista. Tantuntlea tantum, thoddea masikancher 
Konknni songit ani kantaram mhunn uzvaddaitat! Dekunuch, aiz Konknni 
masik kaddop mhonnlear lekh, kovita, kotha, ek-anki nattkulim, 
bhurgeam-kannyo itlench uzvaddavop oxem khubxea zannank dista. Voir 
ul’lekh kel’le sahit’yache he prokar konn-ui sompeponnim bo
roun dhaddta oxem khubxea zannank dista, ani ratiam modem konn-ui 
Konknni masik uzvaddaunk toyar zatat, uzvaddaitat-ui ani xevttim apunn 
hanspacho mal thartat.


Konknni masikanchea thoddea sompadpeank ani sompadpi monddollak 
potrokaritechi il’li-i zannvay asona. Dekun oslea sompadpeanchea 
sompadpiponna khal choltelea masikancher hachim-tachim kutam, 
vankddeponnam kaddpi borovpam, apunnuch sarko asa mhunn hott’tt dhorpi 
lekh, boro vavr korteleancher borovpantlean xenn marop, konnacho rag 
kaddunk masikacho goir-vapor korop hem sogllem polleunk mellta. Hea 
soglleantlean, oslea masikanchea sompadpeank Konknni potrokaritechi ‘A’ 
ani ‘Z’ legit khobor na mhunn thavem korta. Itlench nhoi, “Konknni 
bhaxechi udorgot korunk (khuinchea mollachi udorgot kounk sodtat ti 
tankanch khobor na ti veglli gozal) hanv masik choloitam” mhunn sangpi 
thoddea sompadpeanchim masikam legit khubxe pavtti Konknnicheruch vikh 
onkhun ani buniyad-ghottsann naslelim borovpam uzvaddaun Konknni 
lokanchea monant duspott kortat tem polletoch, ‘anti-virus software’ 
toyar korpi komponeo aplo fuddem dusro toyar kortolo ‘anti-virus 
software’ khoponk zai mhunn poilea ‘software’-ant ‘virus’ ghalun 
vikpachim naddingponnam kortat te gozalicho mhaka ugddas yeta.


Konknni bhaxek hozar vorsancho mol-mhotvacho itihas asa. Eka kallar, 
amchea mhalgoddeank Konknni potrokaritechi nadd bori somzololi dekunuch 
tannim fattlea kallant Konknni potrokarita borech unchle tenkxer 
pavoileli. Dekun, azun-ui tea Konknni sompadpeanchi ani tanchea 
potram-masikancho lok tust-tokhnnayecho ugddas korta. Tanche koddchean 
sfurthi gheun aiche Konknni potrokariten anik-ui unchli tenkxi ganttunk 
zai asli. Punn potrokaritechi matui zannvay naslele thodde 
potrokaritechea nanvan ani rupan vegllench kitem tea masikamni 
uzvaddaitat dekun, aiz legit Konknni potrokarita babot urlea. Ti fulunk 
na. Ti prouddtayek pavunk na. Mhalgoddeamni ganttun dilele Konknni 
potrokaritechi tengxi, aichea thoddea ek-torfi (one-sided), 
sompadpiponnachi tank naslelea ani nanvam purtea Konknni sompadpeank ti 
sodun-ui mellunk na hem sobhavik asa.


Khori potrokarita, aili fur, mumrant pur vo kaddli jib laili talleak oxi 
nhoi mhunn tea sompadpeank konn xikoitolo?



(c) Jose Salvador Fernandes
www.goa-world.com

[Goanet] Newspaper Ads of Fr. Diogo

[hensa vaz]

Dear Joe,

I happened to read your article on Goanet, dated 1st march, regarding Fr.
Diogo. You seem to be quite interested in his affairs. So I am attaching
herewith some more information so you can comment on this as well, in the
same manner you have commented on the Birthday wishes from the ones who
appreciate Fr. Diogo.

I wish and hope you will be able to make it one day to personally see Fr.
Diogo.

Regards
Hensa

[Goanet] Lion Roars

[Lionel Messias]

Travails behind a dream house
*Garden Undone*

Battle lines have been drawn at Chowgule Gardens in Zuari Nagar close to the
Reliance power plant where reps of 114 resident families took me on a tour
last Sunday narrating a series of unfulfilled promises made by Chowgule Real
Estate & Construction Co. Pvt. Ltd, a decade after it constructed the first
of ten residential blocks of flats. Over the ten years as the remaining nine
blocks were built, residents, some of whom (in the block called ‘Nest’) have
gone to the Consumer Court (hearings are underway), and claim the builder
has not signed sale agreements with them till now. Result: at least one
ex-Delhiite had to buy a scooter in Delhi because he couldn’t produce a
residential certificate to the dealer here. The residents think the builder
did not get permission either from the Regional Directorate of Civil
Aviation or the Flag Officer Goa Area (FOGA) for permission to build at
least some of the blocks as Chowgule Gardens falls within the funnel area
(airspace for landing) of Dabolim airport. This appears to be the thinking
after the builder got a letter (dated 08.11.1992) from FOGA asking it to
produce building plans before it undertook any construction. Residents say
the builder has refused to show them any FOGA permission and therefore think
this is one of the reasons why sale agreements have not been signed. FOGA
however had no objection to the builder developing plots.

The list of complaints seems endless. Residents claim the septic tanks are
dangerously close to the building blocks. This much is clearly visible, as
are the shoddy sewer openings (most in various stages of collapse) built
several inches above the ground level and not on level with the ground as
should be done. Residents also claim they have no knowledge if the septic
tanks open out to soak pits as is the norm. In the case of the Nest built in
2007 comprising 14 flats, the underground water storage tank has developed
visible leaks.

*Unkept Promises*

The builder’s promises as told to the buyers and advertised in the website
(copies of website pages produced to the Consumer Court) was subsequently
revised and evidence of all this removed: landscape gardens including
children’s playing equipment, round-the-clock security, comprehensive
maintenance schemes, garbage disposal, including a list of other property
management promises; and future plans that included provision of pool table,
gymnasium, card room, library and indoor games. Residents say ten years down
the line none of these promises have been kept, a fact that I could see for
myself when they took me around the approximately 3, 500 sq. mt of open lung
space covered with tall dry wild grass! The larger of these spaces
distributed around Chowgule Gardens as known to the residents is 1,385 sq.
mt, 630 sq. mt, 355 sq. mt, 130 sq. mt and 99 sq. mt. On June 28, 2008, the
builders wrote to the Nest flat owners (the most vociferous of the ten block
owners) pointing out now that the main entry road within the complex was a
public road it therefore had to be maintained by the VP of Sancoale; that a
(missing compound wall) would be constructed (not done till date); but
generally evaded most of the 34 issues the Nest residents raised earlier
–denying even that they had committed to provide the club house announced in
the website. The builders even refused to commit themselves on the issue of
providing accounts for electricity/water connection charges,
registration/stamp duty charges which the residents claimed they had paid in
excess. And the battle goes on.
*
Beware*

Take heed. The next time you want a mobile broadband service provider,
insist on a practical demonstration and only where you live, irrespective of
the reputation of the provider. It does not matter whether the provider is
into social industry or is up there in the market capitalisation hierarchy.
At ground zero, it’s all about whether you are within enough radial distance
of the provider’s antenna. Period. Take heed, because if you want out later
even after paying a couple of thou, they are always a step ahead. Latest is,
they have bodied together and will lodge a complaint against you with the
Vigilance regulatory and Institution for national defaulters for banking
industry and other telecom operators. So no matter how pissed you are over a
particular provider’s service, they won’t let you waltz off into the arms of
another provider without settling all their ‘dues’ never mind the fact that
you never connected once. Your only recourse if you want peace of mind:
invite them home and take it from there, diplomatically!
*
Feedback 2280935, 9822152164 lionroars@gmail.com *

[Goanet] M F Hussain : saint or sinner?

[Dr. U. G. Barad]

 

I was touched with the following paragraph from Marshall's post:

 

All in all, hindutva is giving Hinduism a bad name. Hinduism has through the
ages welcomed and sheltered all religions. Nowhere in the world will one see
the portraits of all types of gods and deities displayed, and treated with
equal respect, like I have seen in roadside dhabbas, sugarcane juice stalls,
transport buses, shops, offices in India. 

 

I was frequent visitor to Gurgaon for two years and had a Punjabi Hindu as
my neighbor. I was surprised to see a painting of the Last Supper
prominently displayed on the wall of their living room. The lady explained
to me that this was a gift to her husband, an army officer, and they revered
it knowing the full story and background. Another Punjabi Hindu neighbor to
whom I used to send my children for tuitions in Hindi, requested me to
obtain a Bible in large font size for her aged father-in-law as he was very
happy and keen on reading stories from the bible. These are the kind of
people who practice the essence of Hinduism and not those protesting against
MFH."

 

Does Marshall have reverential pictures of Hindu gods and goddesses in his
house?

 

Best wishes

 

Dr U. G. Barad 

 

[Goanet] M F Hussain: saint or sinner

[anil desai]

Samir wrote:

 I find it very glaring that while everyone
rushes to Hussein's defense, not one of the so-called secular fighters came
in defense
of Tasleema when she was hounded.

REsponse:

Samir,

This included Marshall whose fingers must have gone numb when he tried to
write something insupport of Tasleema. Even now, he believes the whole
problem with the Tasleema issue is that Hindu extremists trying to use her
for political purposes. Where were these pseudo-secularists when Culvert
needed support in Colva?

Anil Desai

Re: [Goanet] M F Hussain, saint or sinner

[Edward Verdes]

Dotor Bab,
Did you hear all the songs from CD  'Dogui Bodmass" Produced by CALVERT?
If so what are your views?

Edward Verdes

- Original Message - 
From: "anil desai" <>



2. Can we read your views about the violence in Colva and the treatment
meted out to Culvert and the actions of religious extremists with regard 
to

Da Vinci Code movie?

Anil Desai









-- 

[Goanet] Goanet Reader: In More than One Place: Goan Kenyans and the Crisis of Identity

[Goanet Reader]

In More than One Place: Goan Kenyans and the Crisis of Identity

R. Benedito Ferrao
12ch...@gmail.com

In a Mombasa cemetery overgrown
with weeds and tall grass, we
looked for a grave that held
the remains of my grandmother.
My uncles, aunts, and cousins
tried to make sense of the
graveyard's organization while
its caretakers followed
closely, their voices low as
they informed us that they
looked after this site and that
perhaps they could assist us.
We had, of course, been warned
that any African who offered us
assistance must want money for
services they would be hard
pushed to render in the first
place. So, we ignored them
until it became clearer after a
while that we were getting
nowhere in our attempts to find
our matriarch's resting place.

***

In December 2006, over forty of us had come to Kenya to
celebrate a family reunion. We had arrived from different
points on the globe, some of us in Kenya after many years
(for my mother this had been the first trip in forty years)
and many of us here for the first time ever.

As we drew up our family tree, three generations of sons and
daughters, grandchildren, and great grandchildren marvelled
at how from two had come one hundred, my deceased
grandparents the point of origination of this journey.

We celebrated our happiness at having finally come together,
yet mourned the loss of those we had known and loved. But the
greatest loss of all grieved by this large family of Goans
was that of Kenya itself. Particularly for those of us who
had never been here before, the constant refrain heard was of
how Kenya was no longer the place it once was; how once the
Africans had regained their independence they had run the
country into the ground; how Nairobi was no longer safe and
overtaken by "too many Blacks" (a relative I pointed out the
obvious to was not amused).

  Therein, though, lies the unseen pain of nostalgia
  -- beguiling in memory but embittering in its
  post-dated influence. For the Goans of East Africa,
  particularly those of my mother's generation and
  before, their edenic memories marked with the
  sweetness of childhood, young courtships, and sepia
  tinted photos, this millennium's Africa is another
  place -- one that changed forever when they left.
  While that is indisputable, the firm belief that it
  was their presence and the colonial era which made
  Kenya, and their departure with the end of
  colonization that led to its decay, bears scrutiny.

The provenance of Goans from East Africa throws up several
questions about their postcolonial identities, not least of
all to Asian East Africans themselves. In Kenya, this
community would have held passports that nominally made them
British citizens of Kenya. Because Kenya was considered a
colonial protectorate, it meant that British passports held
by Goans, others of Indian subcontinental origins, and Black
Africans as well, rendered their ability to travel to England
impossible.

One need not dwell too long on the reasons why such an
artifice was employed to come to the conclusion that it was
simply to restrict the flow of labour within a specific, and
secure, gamut. Many Goans either directly made their way to
British East Africa or by way of British India, to which they
travelled because of the few educational and economic
opportunities in Estado da India Portuguesa.

  When Goans left Goa to provide service and to live
  in colonial Africa, they were indeed Portuguese
  citizens, but not in a majority of cases were they
  of mixed-race origins, which is a commonly held,
  but erroneous, view of the extraction of Goans.
  Unlike in Brazil, the colonizer and the colonized
  seldom mixed, both sides looking down up on the practice.

This, of course, does not mean that there were not some
intermarriages, rapes, affairs, and elopements. In early
colonial times, interracial marriages were the product of
strategic alliances between upper-caste Indians and their
aristocratic Portuguese equivalents, meant to cement business
and power relations.

Evidently, the reason for such partnerships being to limit
the exercise of power, their own numbers were limited and the
practice did not filter down into the socio-religious ranks.
While it might be true that there was little inter-raciality,
there is no doubt that Goan culture in the process of 450
years of colonization had been Lusitanized, in much the same
way that the cultures of the Philippines and parts of Latin
America had been Hispanicized.

Fast-forward to the present era. In 1961, Goa received its
independence from the Portuguese and was absorbed into the
Indian Union. It was a tumultuous time for Goans as
identitarian politics took over and the little enclave faced
losing autonomy with its potential assimilation into the
adjoining state of Maharashtra.

  The event was marked with the use 

[Goanet] M F Hussain, saint or sinner

[anil desai]

Marshall wrote:
Samir

One important point in this entire discussion on MF Hussain which everyone
seems to be missing out is that the so called offensive paintings were
created over 40 years ago. They were exhibited in art galleries, viewed by
artists and art connoisseurs and did not raise anyone's hackles.

However, in the 90's at the height of the hindutva movement,( remember, the
Babri Masjid was demolished in December, 1992), the hindutvavadis tried to
rake up anything and everything that could be used as a weapon to incite the
public and create a communal divide which could be exploited for electoral
gain. Therefore, the Hubli Idgah maidan issue, Haji Malang issue in Kalyan,
Bababudangiri shrine, Chickmagalur, Karnataka and several others. At this
point of time sometime in 1996 some hindutva organisations dredged out these
two paintings out of some 1 paintings done by MFH and put them on public
display accompanied of course with shrill communal rhetoric. The
organisation which took a lead in this was the HJS / SS whose credentials
are too well known and who were in the news recently for the bomb blasts in
Margao and elsewhere which was targetted at hindus. So much for their sense
of anger at the paintings!!!

It is also interesting to note that when challenged in court, the Delhi HC
and the Supreme Court held there was nothing objectionable in the paintings.


 Delhi High Court in May 2008 clearly stated the obvious: "A painter has his
own perspective of looking at things and it cannot be the basis of
initiating criminal proceedings against him...In India, new puritanism is
being carried out in the name of cultural purity and a host of ignorant
people are vandalizing art and pushing us towards a pre-renaissance era".

The Chief Justice of India K.G.Balakrishan had the best response to the
question when, while upholding the Delhi HC decision, he said: ?There are so
many such subjects, photographs and publications. Will you file cases
against all of them? It (Husain?s work) is art. If you don?t want to see it,
then don?t see it. There are so many such art forms in the (Hindu) temple
structures.?

The main point to note also is that these paintings were not in public
places and were in private collections, rarely exhibited and that too in
rarefied exhibitions attended by people who by no stretch of imagination
would have been offended by them, at exclusive galleries. All of them were
done many, many years back. Those who claimed to be hurt by these paintings
were the ones who went about putting these paintings in the public domain.

MFH is being made a scapegoat because he is a muslim. He is being used as a
pawn in the larger battle being fought by communal forces who wish to secure
political power. Had he been a hindu, possibly there would have been a few
protests and the matter would have died down a la Subodh Kerkar affaire.

It is also a matter for all people to think whether violence or threats of
violence is acceptable in any protest or disagreement.

In the Taslima issue too, Taslima is a merely a pawn in the larger battle
for votes.The hindutva lobbly does not love her but is using her to hurt the
muslims since some of her writings raise the hackles of fundamentalist
muslims. West Bengal has a large muslim population, and in order not to lose
their votes, the Left front as well as the 'secular' parties like the
Congress or TC are pandering to the muslim extremists. Annd so the chain
goes on. There is a valid point in the argument that the state and the
secular lobby have not been equally fair and firm with muslim extremists
whether in the Shah Bano affair, or the Salman Rushdie matter or the Taslima
issue. So where do we go from here? Continue this game of brinkmanship or
set up standards for others to follow?

All in all, hindutva is giving hinduism a bad name. Hinduism has through the
ages welcomed and sheltered all religions. Nowhere in the world will one see
the portraits of all types of gods and deities displayed, and treated with
equal respect, like I have seen in roadside dhabbas, sugarcane juice stalls,
transport buses, shops, offices in India. I lived in Gurgaon for two years
and had a Punjabi Hindu as my neighbour. I was surprised to see a painting
of the Last Supper prominently displayed on the wall of her living room. The
lady explained to me that this was a gift to her husband, an army officer,
and they revered it knowing the full story and background. Another Punjabi
Hindu neighbour to whom I used to send my children for tutions in Hindi,
requested me obtain a Bible in large font size for her aged father-in-law as
he was very happy and keen on reading stories from the bible.These are the
kind of people who practice the essense of hinduism and not those protesting
against MFH.

Response:

Very good write up.

2 questions:

1. Do you really believe that the whole controversy about Tasleema Nasreen
is about Hindu extremists using her case for political purposes( as you have
put it)

[Goanet] M F Hussain saint or sinner

[Marshall Mendonza]

Anil Desai:
About freedom of expression: It should be exercised with responsibility.

Response:
1. Who decides the threshold - the artiste, civil society, the judiciary or
extremist elements?
2. After the judiciary decides, can extremist elements continue to obstruct
justice or order?
3. What is the time period which can be considered reasonable?-50 years, 100
years, 1000 years? What is to stop extremist elements from raking up a
discussion item held today in various fora and accepted by civil society as
normal and say that it hurts their religious sentiments and feelings some 10
years from now?

Regards,

Marshall

[Goanet] Frivolous, frivolous writings on Goanet

[Marshall Mendonza]

Selma

I thank you for your kind words of support.

When people cannot counter arguments, they resort to abuse, name calling,
labelling and ridicule. Absolutely Baradesque!!!

Regards,

Marshall

[Goanet] Goans dom't read or write enough

[Mervyn & Elsie Maciel]

I tend to agree with Ben Antao, although I feel his comments are
not intended as a generalisation.
While there seems to be too much emphasis laid on socializing - even in our
Goan Institutions, I feel  the injection of some
intellectual stimulus would not go amiss.
-- 
Mervyn Maciel