[Goanet-News] Can you learn Konkani then? ... A novel, language in Goa, careers and more
A report (in images and words) of the Goa Book Club meeting of Feb 17, 2011. Join us at http://groups.google.com/group/goa-book-club Books that can help... to learn Konkani: Skilled Konkani-to-English translator, writer and college lecturer Augusto Pinto (of Moira) fishes out for some books from his bag that can help you to learn Konkani. More on this thread here [http://groups.google.com/group/goa-book-club/browse_thread/thread/d03413b6fc445350] Some books suggested include (i) Speak Konkani (The Goan Language) and Have Fun: A Pocket Interpreter by Michael and Tomoko Lobo, FinDoll Communications and Publications, 119 Lobo's Vaddo, Parra, Goa, 1993. (ii) Romi Lipient Konknni Kors by Fr. Matthew Almeida, S.J. published by Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr, Alto Porvorim, Goa. Rs 250 in India. (iii) English Self-Taught or Apxinch Inglez Xiconc by Jes. de A. Souza Published by BX Furtado Sons (1935) (iv) Spoken Konkani (A Self-Learning Guide) by Edward de Lima (v) Let's Learn Konkani by S. J. Borkar http://www.amazon.com/Lets-Learn-Konk... (vi) Konkani Vyakran Sahaj Abhyas (S.J.Borkar, D Ghanekar - Rajhauns). http://www.rajhauns.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdysezediQ4 Dan Driscoll on Irene dos Santos: Canadian-Goan Dan Driscoll, a long time resident of Goa and one who has been adding literary value to the place, talks about the writing of Margaret Mascarenhas, particularly her second and newest novel, The Disappearance of Irene dos Santos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2enap1KfeY From the Netherlands... over to Konkani: Bloeme Bergmann is an MA student at Leiden University in the Netherlands. As part of her Master's degree in English Language and Culture, specialisation English Language Acquisition, she is working to research language shift among the Konkani-speaking population in Goa. My research aims to find out whether the young generations still speak fluent Konkani, whether they are shifting towards English, and if so, to what extent, and the factors influencing this possible shift, she adds. Please see http://www.thesistools.com/konkani Bloem talked about the book Where East Looks West: Success in English in Goa and on the Konkan Coast (by Dennis Kurzon) She added: As it is on the TOEFL scores, and the Dutch, my own kinsmen, as it were, scored similarly high, my interest in the subject is even greater, as the situation in the Netherlands is very different, yet very similar Dennis Kurzon's book ... (is) truly is a treasure trove of information, very helpful for my research. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWRhUfIpXp4 Ramdas Kelkar's Careernama: Former journalist, writer and principal (at Mandrem, Goa) Ramdas Kelkar talks about his career guidance book for students, in Marathi, called *Careernama*. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhU-PDLyuQU Ariosto Coelho's recently book on art and spirituality...: ... introduced at the Goa Book Club by Goanetter Cip (Cipriano) Fernandes of Arpora/the UK. Ariosto unveiled his book in Goa recently, during a visit here with his wife, longtime Goanet admin Vivian(a) Coelho. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPsDFOHe-_4 Prof. Eduardo de Souza's book: John Eric Gomes describes a book by a late nonegenarian author, Eduardo de Souza, of Pilerne, who passed away a couple of years ago. Strangely very few people have been aware of this book in in Goa itself. It's called 'From Goa With Love' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfwllESm3b4 Savia Viegas' Tales from the Attic: An introduction by author-sociologist Savia Viegas of her now quickly-going-out-of-print novel set in Goa, *Tales from the Attic*. Check the cover here http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/5... The story about the novel even has a dramatic note to it (specially, about how it got self-published and sold) :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=labxLiIAiEU Introducing Goa Remembered by Pantelao Fernandes: Anne Ketteringham, a former aeronautical engineer (and now doing some interesting wildlife photography in Goa) introduces Pantelao Fernandes' just-released well-done coffeetable book that offers some superb shots on Goa. The Word Publications, ISBN 81-903985-1-2. Rs 1500 in Goa. Hardbound, large-sized, in full colour. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEBZnW2yZI4 Leroy Veloso talks on The Priest and his Karma (by Ben Antao): At the Goa Book Club, February 17, 2011. Venue: Broadway Book Centre, Panjim 403001 Goa India. About the book: It's 1964 and Sebastian Lobo has returned to Goa after a ten-year absence. He left his homeland in a flood of anger and despair, and he's been running ever since, running from his guilt, his pain, and his past vocation. He is employed as a reporter for a newspaper in Panjim and no one knows who he used to be. Now, after having separated himself from the Catholic Church for a decade, he is consumed by an overwhelming desire to experience the sacrament of confession once again. But in the confessional he realizes in horror that the priest is from his old parish and denies him the
[Goanet] Fw: From Dr Hubert Gomes, Goa
Dear Dr. Gomes, A very inspiring message, indeed. However, if I understand correctly, you have thrown your hat into the rat-race of electoral POLITICS to be one of the 'Legislators' of the GOA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY. Pls correct me if I am terribly wrong. Because, the sentence 'To bring about the change that we want to see in Benaulim Constituency seems to be out of place. B/rgds floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: hubert gomes To: Menino ; Joseph Rebello ; Alfred de Tavares ; Anabelle Gama ; Annand Madgavkar ; Arwin Mesquita ; Arvind P. Bhatikar ; Bevinda Colaco ; Maxie Corria ; Edwin Diana Pinto ; Orlando Da Silva ; Rui DaGama ; Tony Luis ; Adrian E.Pereira ; Freddy Fernandes ; Franky Monteiro ; floriano ; Pele Gomes ; Melinda Powell ; rajendra kakodkar ; carmen de miranda ; Martha Rebello ; Pravin Sabnis ; Rohit Rebelo ; Melanie Vaz ; franklinluisministr...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 8:45 PM Subject: From Dr Hubert Gomes, Goa Dear all, I am herein enclosing my latest article which I uploaded on my Facebook a few moments ago. Please share it with your friends. Thanks Hubert The Winds of Changeby Hubert Gomes on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 This Note is in reply to a request from Ms Melba Merghuliao Antao, the Chief Reporter ofGoan Observer. She wanted to have my views (in 200 words) on... If Goa and India could re-create the Egypt example and make the corrupt rulers to step down. And if we too could have a sustained yet peaceful demonstration until the changes the people are fighting for are granted. The Winds of Change As we all know, Winds of Change swept across Egypt a few days ago, and a new Government is already in place. Many people are wondering if Goa could also have a similar Movement to usher in a Better Goa . My answer to this question is both Yes and No. It is Yes because with Goa Assemby Elections only a few months away, the desired changes are also only an electronic button push away. We can bring about the neccessary changes if we really want to. The answer is a clear No if we the people of Goa are not really seriousabout the change. The people of Egypt were very serious about the change and were prepared for the worst. They not only slept and demonstrated on the roads, but were prepared to loose their lives if it was required. They were basically angry with their political leaders, and had fire in their belly to bring about the necessary changes in Egypt. Besides debating this issue in Bars, Forums and at private parties, honestly I do not know how many Goans are really angrywith our existing leaders, and want a change. Without that real anger in our Soul, there can be no CHANGE. It is time we learn from our past experiences... Agitations succeeded only when we the people of Goa were really serious. Being a man of action I do not wish to preach to anybody. I am genuinely angry with some of our political leaders, and I want a change. I have therefore decided to challenge one of them by contesting the forthcoming Assembly Elections, against many odds. Although I do not have the necessary money and muscle power to fight the Elections, I know I have the desired fire in my belly to fight the Goliath of Goan Politics. And with my sincerity and convictions, I am sure the fire in my belly will ignite the hearts and minds of many right thinking Goans... to bring about the change that we want to see in Benaulim Constituency.
[Goanet] How about Cancelling the pension earned in the name of Portuguese?
How about Cancelling the pension that is earned in the name of Portuguese? This has reference to the post/thread on Goanet re - Cancel Portuguese street names: Panel How about Cancelling the pension that is earned in the name of Portuguese? Cancel free travel in the name of Portuguese Cancel all jobs secured by FFs sons and daughters in the name of Portuguese Can our Freedom Fighters do it? No, infact, they ask more of it (in the nzame of Portuguese) Extra: - Every month Goa Govt spend about Rs.80,00,000 on Goa FF’s pension (each gets Rs.5000 per month eff. Dec.2010) - There are about 1600 FFs (most of them are fake) - On top, Central Govt too spend on most of them Rs.120,25,000 per month (Each get Rs. 12,400 per month - may have been revised/increased recently) - When they die, the entire pension it transferred to their spouses - if no spouse living, then it goes to upto 3 unmarried daughters each getting around 3000 - FF get free rail travel in A/c 3 tier including Rajdhani Express - FREE KTC travel - Free medical facilities - Reservation for children and grand children in professional Govt. institutions - Reservation of Jobs in Govt. dept. joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Death of Goa's fields
To Goanet - Marlon Menezes wrote: Perhaps Parrikar's name is real. In fact, one wonders if Parrikar is related to his big daddy namesake in the opposition and is ranting against current government officials to foster his master's agenda? Translation: Although I, Marlon I-know-how-to-spell Menezes, got called out bullsh*tting on matters I know nothing about, I will continue to make an ass of myself in a public forum. Marlon-bhaiyya (as in UP bhaiyya) should wonder no more. Big daddy P is related to me, as is potato-head Digu. Next question. Regards, r
[Goanet] A country of paradoxes
How do you build a great India on a foundation of moral and ethical turpitude, asks Anthony Simoes Sunday, 6 February 2011, the Herald front page report states: 'Goa should be the happiest state in the world by 2035; where every Goan will do well, there is harmony, pristine nature and development without destruction, eminent scientist Dr R A Mashelkar said in the inaugural lecture ofthe D. D Kosambi Festival of Ideas at Kala Academy, Panjim on Saturday. Pointing out that innovation and knowledge will drive the present century, he said Goa - owing to its small size, high human development indices, education and widespread knowledge of English is best suited to be a knowledge economy.' Dr Mashelkar then went on to describe himself as a dangerous optimist. The real danger is that the' younger generation may start taking the notion of India Shining seriously. They may swallow the big lie about India being the financial powerhouse ofthe 21 st century'even though they can already see and smell India - the environmental shithouse ofthe world. How do you build a great India on a foundation of moral and ethical turpitude? Corruption in every walk of life: even at the highest levels of academia, plagued with more than its fair share of bogus educational qualifications, leaked examination papers and plagiarism. Surely Dr Mashelkar has experienced this first-hand. He would have seen, from close quarters, how rotten-to-the-core are our elites. He wants 1.2 billion Indians to get up each morning and say: My India. What an India that will be. Unfortunately, the idea of lndia exists as a figment of the imagination of about 300 million people. The other 900 million people wallow 'in the dirt and the poverty of Bharat. 'On 8 January 2011 Gokul Singh Gond, of Druminia village, Madhya Pradesh, places his dead daughter Sohagvati on the back of his bicycle and pedals 10 kilometres to the nearest district hospital for an autopsy. On the same day, cricketer Gautam Gambhir was auctioned for 2.1 million dollars for the fourth edition of the IPL, the highest amount of money offered for the services of a cricketer, in the history of the game. If there are two images that could capture the idea of India in the 62nd year of its republic, they are these. On the one hand, India is poised to send its business classes to take over the world when, on the other, it condemns vast sections ofits citizens to sub-human existence. The signature of the Indian republic at 61 is the almost seemingly unbridgeable chasm betWeen the worlds of the Gokul Singh Gonds, and the rest. Of course, there was always contempt for the poor by the rich, but the biggest change in the post-liberalisation era is that the have-nots are not looked down upon, but they simply don't exist!!!' wrote Nissim Mannathukkaren. Dr Mashelkarand his ilk will unwittingly misguide thousands upon thousands of youth, because they don't see the nightmare that is hidden in the dream. So our demographic disaster becomes a demographic dividend. Our students rush to first world destinations for education, employment emIgration or some a combination of all three. This has spawned an.entire industry based, on corruption, cheating, fraud.,.. So, our 'students' finish up being beaten by hoodlums, or electronically tagged like stray cattle. This is the generation that will soar and take India to its tryst with destiny, but most curiously and painfully, it will soon dawn on one that this generation's idea of India is divested from any interest in how majority of Indians live. It does not feel that there is anything obscene in building a $1 billion dollar home in a city, in which four crore people live in slums. For it, the idea oflndia does not extend beyond the Tatas taking over Jaguar, or the nation doing well in cricket. The angst about the staging of the Commonwealth Games is not seen when millions of tons of grains rot in granaries in a nation where more than 75 per cent of the population live on less than Rs20 per day. The heart that swells up with pride when the rupee got a symbol or when 'Slumdog Millionaire' wins an Oscar, goes cold when it actually sees a person from the slum. Twenty-four year-old Reema Bhardwaj, who was nine months 'pregnant, died after she was Jenied admission at a government hospital in Ghaziabad. The baby could not be saved either. Yet, it remains a country of paradoxes. Despite having the tag of being known as the destination for medical tourism, India has been apathetic, even callous, about the health needs of its' poor. Despite having'cutting-edge medical technology, we. appear to have scant regard for life. Reema could probably have been saved with timely treatment and more importantly, some humane behaviour in accordance with the sacred Hippocratic Oath. One could argue that ideas like secularism is thriving considering that urban India spends more on Christmas than Diwali, and that malls in
[Goanet] Invitation: THE PITCH BLACK PROJECT III
THE PITCH BLACK PROJECT III William Stafford rightly said that Kids, they dance before they realize that there is such a thing as music. Children come with natural exuberance showing such value for the little they have. During our journey with the children from the first two editions of The Pitch Black Project, we have learnt that every child is inimitable in their own right, each with the exceptional talents and gifts in extraordinary measures. The PITCH BLACK PROJECT programme encourages our children to dream big and aim high, showing them that their disabilities are not limitations and that there is no challenge that is insurmountable. This is our drive, our Goal for a better Goa. Dance is one of the most effective forms of physical activity, and we try to encourage the youngsters’ natural energy and enthusiasm through the fun and innovative environment that we provide. We aspire to create a platform for these children and reach out to many more so they may dance with their hearts to the music of life. I am a part of the drive towards changing the current facet to a better Goa. The Pitch Black Project I ,II and III is a platform for me to support these underprivileged children who dare to Live, Aspire and Hope; a call to institutions, schools, charities To Join Me In Achieving this . On the same day as the performance, we will be hosting a The PITCH BLACK PROJECT - We Are Grateful Drive” We welcome help in the form of books, clothes, toys and donations. We will be using the collected material as a resource for school material and toys to support the underprivileged children .You can donate as many good quality items of clothing as you can. We accept clothes of only children and also welcome bed sheets, towels, blankets and other such necessities, this will reach the children free of cost. How to Donate Drop items off at ,The Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium ,Fatorda ,There will be Donation Bins at the entrance ,All donations must be clean and useable, the better the quality of your items, the happier the children, who will be the ones receiving them .The Pitch Black Volunteers will be there to assist you, should you need it. I take the privilege of inviting you on Feb 17, 2011, 5 pm, at The Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium,Fatorda, The Pitch Black Project III will go public showcasing the talents of 8000 children, who are awe inspiring in their zest for life and hope, in a monumental and poignant dance performance. The Pitch Black Project performances are contributions towards underprivileged children's rights and care. We strive to have an increased awareness of social issues and pave the way for significant changes in our community. The Pitch Black Project III is a strong advocate and has worked relentlessly to help reduce the problems and abuse faced by these children, Through the eloquent performance, our goal is to celebrate diversity and to ensure social justice, respect and dignity for all. We support and encourage the children, as they live their lives fearlessly, passionately and contentedly despite challenges. We look forward to your support towards our endeavor to make THE PITCH BLACK PROJECT III, a reality for the children who we perform with. Supported by: THE SPORTS AUTHORITY OF GOA Raj Naik, CreatiWitty Works
[Goanet] No alternative? -- (Priest Politician)
*http://www.oheraldo.in/newscategory/Letters/13* *No alternative? Carmen de Miranda, Loutolim *The Church in Goa always talks against corruption and preaches to the faithful to shun ill-gotten wealth, etc. The other day on his birthday, Fr Conceicao D’Silva, Parish Priest of Carambolim Church, launched a website – www.jesusmaryministry.org – which was inaugurated by none other than Churchill Alemao. Was there no other eminent Catholic in Goa who was worthy of inaugurating Fr Conceicao’s website rather than Churchill Alemao? -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 6. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
[Goanet] Dempo to play in Qatar on Saturday Feb 19
Kuala Lumpur: Ranged against Qatari giants Al Sadd in the play-offs for a berth in the AFC Champions League, po SC received a timely boost Saturday when they packed off Churchill Brothers 2-0 in Indian League action. On target for the defending Indian champions were Joaquim Abranches, who opened the scoring in the 12th minute, and reliable Nigerian hitman Ranty Martins Soleye. Dempo SC clash with Al Sadd on Saturday, 19 February, with the winners claiming their spot in the AFC Champions League alongside Al Nassr (Saudi Arabia), Esteghlal (Iran) and Pakhtakor (Uzbekistan), while the losers join Al Qadsia (Kuwait), Al Saqr (Yemen) and Shurtan (Uzbekistan) in the AFC Cup. East Bengal, who will play in the AFC Cup in Group H with South China (Hong Kong), Chonburi FC (Thailand) and Persipura Jayapura (Indonesia), suffered a shock 1-0 defeat at the hands of bottom-ranked ONGC. The only goal of the game came from B Babathunde five minutes into the second half and ensured East Bengal’s first loss this season after going undefeated for 13 matches. They continue to lead the 14-team standings with 31 points while Dempo SC are fourth on 25 points
[Goanet] Guilty until proven innocent?
Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueiredo at yahoo.com.au wrote: And yet, India follows the British colonial system of rule (guilty unless proven innocent), and English is the lingua franca. Gabriel is mistaken. India's judicial system practices the principle of innocent until proven guilty. It was in the Portuguese system in Goa that a person who was charged by the police state as being guilty had to prove his innocence. As far as the crap regarding changing street names is concerned, I think it is a ridiculous political stunt. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] Daily Grook #885
DAILY GROOK #885 === VICE ADVICE === by Francis Rodrigues my shop-lifting addiction the docs fail at treating, their useless prescription - u need to take something! *GREAT ALL-OCCASION GIFT* http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com sheet-music,tab,lyrics,chords of great Konkani pop hits GOA: PEDRO FERNANDES: Tel.2226642 FURTADOS: Tel.2223278 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910
Re: [Goanet] DEATH: Julius Rosario Carneiro
Dear Herman, Please accept my heartfelt sympathies and kindly convey the same to your family on the sad demise of your beloved father Mr Julius Rosario. May his soul rest in eternal peace. Regards. Joel.
[Goanet] Talgadi
Talgadi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kim0hjFDD4 Plenty other GOA Folk dances available here e.g. Dhekni, Kunbi, Mando / Dulpod, Corodinho, Kharvi, Goff, Fugdi, Dallo, Dhangar, Goda modni, Samayi, Lamp dance, Ranmell, Tonyamell, Gondhal, Talgadi Veerbhadra, Shigmo, Musal Khell, Zagor, etc etc just search 'joegoauk folk' in youtube etc Talgdi is from IFFI 2006 joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Death of Goa's fields - thanks to the lack of low cost manual labor
Elvino wrote: It is not the exact truth why agriculture is a dying industry in Goa that it is because of the lack of manpower. People have stopped cultivating lands because it is not feasible due to high cost of Labour in Goa now. The migrant if welcomed by Marlon they are still excessively available in Goa but Goans still find the labour is very expensive. Since they (migrants) are already available in very excessive numbers whether Arwin, Soter or Rajan like it or not but the agriculture labour still very expensive and to much laborious. This is the real reason and Marlon got it wrong why the lands are not cultivated. Comment: I agree with a lot of what Elvino says. Firstly, Goa's agriculture land holdings were meant to build self-reliant and self-sustained families and were not meant for profits. There are families in maharashtra sustaining themselves on 1 acre of land. Our agriculture was not meant to hire labour. Family members chipped in. If at all extra labour was need it worked on a barter system called 'bodlo'. I give 3 days in your field you give me 3 days in return in my field. If at all wages were paid for those who did not have fields, they were given a worth in kind like so many measures of paddy and so on. Thereby the food stock of landless persons was also built up. Secondly, The migrants have not done any favour to Goans. Instead they have carefully orchestrated a situation whereby they eliminated all local labour. The migrants are now exploiting the situation which has made them unaffordable to the Goan. How did they do it? When our local labour wage was Rs. 120, these migrants were ready to work for Rs. 80. This is similar to how Philipino labour displaced Indian labour in the gulf. Foolish Goans prefered to employ the migrants to save the Rs. 40. But the work of local labour was of far superior quality when compared to that of the migrant and any Goan who has personally worked in the fields will vouch for that. The local labour is very aware of his worth and is not ready to be exploited by the employer. So gradually the local labour finding no employment prefered to stray away into other streams of livelihood No sooner that happened the migrants raised their demands much more than what the local labour was demanding. Secondly the migrant work force that works in the field descend into Goa only after they have finished with their work in the fields back home. Thereby there is a loss of time in the agriculture operations in Goa. They treat Goa like the gulf and make as much money as they can and go return to their village. The migrants in turn contribute to so many social and health problems. Thirdly, the soil conditions and other physical conditions have deteriorated due to pollution of all kinds. Air and sunlight has been blocked by high rise building, waste water, eroded soil finds its way into the fields along with it is non bio-degradable garbage and so on. The bundhs have not been maintained and often the mafia break the sluice gates and flood the fields for fish farming. So also, the plough or power tillers are not available in time and so on. These factors further increases the burden for the farmer and makes agriculture non-profitable. Fourthly, in case of paddy there is a hell lot of work till it reaches the mill. Spaces for drying and boiling the paddy are diminishing. The present generation of youngsters have not cultivated the physique and stamina for such kind of work. The psyche of everyone is to look for a job in some industry. So matters are not so simple as is being made out by marlon and company.
[Goanet] AFC champions league play-off where Dempo play al sadd of Qatar in Doha on Feb 19
Kuala Lumpur: Less than a fortnight after the conclusion of a highly entertaining AFC Asian Cup Qatar 2011™, Asian club football moves into gear with the AFC Champions League play-offs kicking off on Saturday, 12 February. Six teams are vying for two spots in the 2011 edition of the AFC Champions League, Asia’s richest club tournament. From the West are three sides: AFC Cup 2010 champions Al Ittihad of Syria, Dempo SC of India, and Qatari heavyweights Al Sadd. On the Eastern front the UAE’s Al Ain, who won the inaugural title in 2002-03, Thailand’s rising power Muang Thong United, and Indonesian club Sriwijaya. The first leg of action will see Al Sadd clash with Al Ittihad at the Jassim Bin Hamad Stadium while Sriwijaya will host Muang Thong at their Jaka Baring Stadium stronghold. In the decisive second leg on 19 February, the winners of the Al Sadd-Al Itthad match will play Dempo with the victors joining Al Nasr (Saudi Arabia), Esteghlal (Iran), and Uzbekistan’s Pakhtakor in Group B of the AFC Champions League. On the other side of the continent, Al Ain will play the winners of the Sriwijaya-Muang Thong encounter on 19 February with the side which comes out on top progressing to Group F where FC Seoul (Korea Republic), Hangzhou Greentown (China) and Nagoya Grampus (Japan) are waiting. The losers will play in the second-tier AFC Cup. The group phase of the continental showcase kicks off on 1 and 2 March and winds up on 10 and 11 May, setting the stage for the Round of 16
[Goanet] Music and Cooking classes in Doha Qatar
Music and Cooking classes in Doha Qatar http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_117262348347121
Re: [Goanet] Guilty until proven innocent?
On 17 February 2011 04:33, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: [1] Gabriel is mistaken. India's judicial system practices the principle of innocent until proven guilty. [2] It was in the Portuguese system in Goa that a person who was charged by the police state as being guilty had to prove his innocence. [3] As far as the crap regarding changing street names is concerned, I think it is a ridiculous political stunt. COMMENT: re#1: Please review the Goa Children's Act 2003 as amended. re#2: This is incorrect. The only difference between the Portuguese judicial system in Goa and the British/Judicial system is that the former is based on Roman (civil) law while the later is based on Scandinavian-descent (common) law. As far as the status of law in police states is concerned, I believe that there is NO basic difference between the Portuguese one as it existed antes 1974 and the one which exists wherever police states are operative. (I am not sure that any such areas exist on the subcontinent on Feb 17, 2011 - I certainly know they existed at least until Feb 16, 2011). ps: I have intentionally avoided an comment on HOW any state CHARGES anyone even in 2011. re #3 and the name changing exercise, I wonder what the original owners of the land (which eventually became Goa) have to say about the names of successive violent invaders who have swiped their land and deprived them (the Kunbis and Gavdes, perhaps, like me) of our land. For starters, I strongly recommend that Flaviano Dias does the following (Please) 1: Change his name forthwith. Here are some recommendations: Phall Dasi, Altu Faltu (since Flaviano - is Roman/Latin in origin - meaning not really worked out - hence classified by me as 'meaningless) and Fuloi Doss. 2: He only writes in Prakrit. 3: Attires himself (with our Kunbi permission) only in a kashti. jc
Re: [Goanet] Death of Goa's fields - thanks to the lack of low cost manual labour
COMMENT : Soter has forgotten one main reason that started the downfall of our rice cultivation. Both the Acts, Mundkar Act and the Agricultural tenancy Act were vote oriented Acts by Bandodkar. It was put into the heads of the populace that they were bonded labourers like in the counterparts of India. They relished the idea of becoming ‘batcars’ overnight without any effort. I remember their election slogan: “Mundcaranc batt, Xethcaranc Xeth”. Then came free education and the overnight landowner farmers themselves used to state that their children will now be doctors, engineers, etc. and in fact sneer at the original land owners. These people are all not yet dead, some live to see the outcome of their conceitedness. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
[Goanet] MOPA'S POLITICAL BETRAYAL
Opposition is building towards MOPA airport and some time back a Senior Goan Politician from the South, was the only one opposing it very vocally. This Politician has now gone silent on the matter, after he got what he wanted i.e. a Lucrative Government Ministry. Any guesses on who this Politician is? Why are specific Priests still entertaining this Extremely Corrupt Politician, who is clearly supporting various Anti-Goan Non-Goan Mega Projects in Goa? Why can't the people of this constituency realise that this Minister his family are reaping huge financial benefits and then paying relatively small amounts to buy off the souls of gullible voters. I still believe that the Good Goan Majority still exists but are generally silent; it is high time that the Majority (Goa Overseas) starts speaking/acting against the Anti-Goans who are destroying Goa its Identity for Greed and their personal benefits. The Future of Goa Goans is in our hands, what we do today will contribute to the either (1) The Prosperity or (2) The Ultimate Doom; of Goa Goans!! Arwin Mesquita, UAE -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 6. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
Re: [Goanet] DEATH: Julius Rosario Carneiro
Dear Herman, Please accept our heartfelt sympathies. Our prayers are with your family and you. Good wishes jc
[Goanet] COLUMN: Festival of Ideas should be translated into reality
Festival of Ideas should be translated into reality By Nisser Dias nisserdias at gmail.com SMS to 9422437029 Recently great living Indians and others put forth their visions and thoughts for the betterment of this country at the DD Kosambi Festival of Ideas. Their speeches and lectures were so profound with deep insight into the potential of the youth of this nation, its richness and the development it can achieve through innovation. At the same time they also touched upon the problems like poverty and illiteracy facing this country and how we can overcome it. These great researchers and scientists are not just glib talkers as they have proved their mantle before the world and when they put forth their thoughts they do it with authority unlike our politicians who talk without even knowing the subject. The question before us today is – for some years now we have been commemorating our own great Goan late DD Kosambi by inviting eminent speakers to Goa to deliver talks on various topics which can facilitate and expedite development and better quality of life for Goans. But over the years the ideas put forth by the intellectuals have not translated into reality or not being implemented, which means the thoughts have only remained a pipe dream for the common man and the youth; who are eagerly awaiting a developed India wherein poverty would be drastically reduced to the extent that every Indian gets at least one meal a day, illiteracy would be wiped out, medical and health facilities would be readily and freely available to all Indians, where every house in the country would be electrified, urban-rural divide is erased, corruption eradicated the list can go on and on. India has developed in terms of industrial growth, its foreign reserves has swelled to hundreds of billions of dollars, Indian businessmen have acquired foreign giant companies but the ground reality is rich have become richer and the poor have become poorer. This is not because India has dearth of researchers, scientists, thinkers but because of political expediency and political class has not been able to deliver to the masses. It is also not that the successive Union governments or the state governments do not have policies or schemes; it is because the politicians skim the cream off the schemes to the extent that the layman is fed only the crumbs. And former prime minister of India late Rajiv Gandhi had put it aptly, “Of every rupee that is spent on the poor, only fifteen paisa reaches them”. This is our malady to which none of our hundreds of political parties are trying to find a remedy. And this is what our own scientist Dr. Raghunath Mashelkar who headed the Council of Scientific and Industrial research for many years, who besides being bestowed upon many awards and honorary doctorates was the third Indian to be named as fellow of Royal Society London touched upon when he said, “it is unwise to think India is developed first and then non-corrupt”. For us to be developed we have completely abolish corrupt and the corruption then only we will be mentally set to say we are a developed country. Former President of India popularly known as the rocket scientist Dr. A P J Abdul Kalam while answering a question posed to him by the audience on corruption after his lecture at DD Kosambi Festival of Ideas asked a counter question, “Will you dare to tell your father to stop his corruption?” Dr. Kalam passed a message that he is aware of the gravity and the depth of corruption in our country. It is from the mere peon, to the policemen to the top politician who indulge in corruption. Former president urged the youth to fight an honest battle to be unique. Indian born British economist and Labour Party politician Lord Meghnad Desai in his discourse minced no words while saying that government mean politicians and politicians mean money. He said, “In India today, to get a form to get your rights you need to bribe somebody.” This is the impression we have created world over. Chief minister Digambar Kamat who also holds the Art and Culture portfolio was present for all the lectures. Would he take a cue from the speakers and the audience who asked the questions and try to stop corruption in his government? Other ministers did not find the time to attend the discourse by these eminent personalities who have made their mark on the global platform but our ministers have all the time in the world to attend village sports, inaugurate drains and sulabhs. It speaks volumes of our calibre to elect such politicians. Most of the speakers spoke about innovations to make India a world leader, but that is not the priority of our politicians and ministers, theirs is to find innovative avenues to amass wealth and more wealth. And as His Holiness Dalai Lama has put it, “Money diminishes basic human values.” Of course morals and values have never been the virtues of Goan politicians at
[Goanet] Ponda's Dr. Ramani gets postal stamp in Hungary
Suraj P Kaisuvkar /TNN Ponda: Mumbai-based Goan neuro-spinal surgeon Dr Premanand S Ramani has been honoured with a postage stamp. Not by India Post, but by Hungary's postal services, which has recognized his work of the past 22 years in that country. Speaking to TO! on Wednesday, Ramani said he considers this the highest recognition he has received. The surgeon said the Hungarian government released the stamp in appreciation of his services to the. country for the last 22 years. They have been having consultations with me via email and phone for the last several years. Besides, a number of patients wait for me for treatment, Ramani said, adding that the stamp is a manner of the European nation demonstrating its trust in him. Ramani, a native of Talauli in Ponda, regularly organizes neurological camps in Goa to provide medical assistance and consultation to Goans. Besides the Hungarian stamp, Ramani has received awards from across the world for services to the medical field. Speaking on his achievements, Ramani said the British Association of Spinal Surgeons (BASS) recently felicitated him during its annual conference in Edinburgh and presented him with an association neck tie. Ramani also delivered a lecture on the occasion on Developments of neurospinal surgery in India, and BASS conferred on him its honorary membership, . Ramani says a major recognition to his services came in 2008, when Indonesia's Cirebon city named the operation theater building of its largest hospital after him. Besides this, Ramani has received several awards from Russia, Japan and Egypt. He is the only Asian to receive the Bucy Award 2010, a prestigious prize by USA. (TOI, Goa 17/2/2011)
Re: [Goanet] A country of paradoxes
I can understand the point here that there is a huge difference between the rich and the poor in India, and that this difference has increased over the last decade or so, as the rich have become richer and many poor people have entered the middle class. But I don't understand the rest of the diatribe against people like Mashelkar and aspiring young students who have done nothing wrong, as well as against scientific and technological progress. Is he saying that we need less people like Mashelkar and more people like Arundhati Roy? Should all the young students join the Maoist insurrection against the establishment? Cheers, Santosh --- On Wed, 2/16/11, soter so...@bsnl.in wrote: How do you build a great India on a foundation of moral and ethical turpitude, asks Anthony Simoes Sunday, 6 February 2011, the Herald front page report states: 'Goa should be the happiest state in the world by 2035; where every Goan will do well, there is harmony, pristine nature and development without destruction, eminent scientist Dr R A Mashelkar said in the inaugural lecture ofthe D. D Kosambi Festival of Ideas at Kala Academy, Panjim on Saturday. Pointing out that innovation and knowledge will drive the present century, he said Goa - owing to its small size, high human development indices, education and widespread knowledge of English is best suited to be a knowledge economy.' Dr Mashelkar then went on to describe himself as a dangerous optimist. The real danger is that the' younger generation may start taking the notion of India Shining seriously. They may swallow the big lie about India being the financial powerhouse ofthe 21 st century'even though they can already see and smell India - the environmental shithouse ofthe world. How do you build a great India on a foundation of moral and ethical turpitude? Corruption in every walk of life: even at the highest levels of academia, plagued with more than its fair share of bogus educational qualifications, leaked examination papers and plagiarism. Surely Dr Mashelkar has experienced this first-hand. He would have seen, from close quarters, how rotten-to-the-core are our elites. He wants 1.2 billion Indians to get up each morning and say: My India. What an India that will be. Unfortunately, the idea of lndia exists as a figment of the imagination of about 300 million people. The other 900 million people wallow 'in the dirt and the poverty of Bharat. 'On 8 January 2011 Gokul Singh Gond, of Druminia village, Madhya Pradesh, places his dead daughter Sohagvati on the back of his bicycle and pedals 10 kilometres to the nearest district hospital for an autopsy. On the same day, cricketer Gautam Gambhir was auctioned for 2.1 million dollars for the fourth edition of the IPL, the highest amount of money offered for the services of a cricketer, in the history of the game. If there are two images that could capture the idea of India in the 62nd year of its republic, they are these. On the one hand, India is poised to send its business classes to take over the world when, on the other, it condemns vast sections ofits citizens to sub-human existence. The signature of the Indian republic at 61 is the almost seemingly unbridgeable chasm betWeen the worlds of the Gokul Singh Gonds, and the rest. Of course, there was always contempt for the poor by the rich, but the biggest change in the post-liberalisation era is that the have-nots are not looked down upon, but they simply don't exist!!!' wrote Nissim Mannathukkaren. Dr Mashelkarand his ilk will unwittingly misguide thousands upon thousands of youth, because they don't see the nightmare that is hidden in the dream. So our demographic disaster becomes a demographic dividend. Our students rush to first world destinations for education, employment emIgration or some a combination of all three. This has spawned an.entire industry based, on corruption, cheating, fraud.,.. So, our 'students' finish up being beaten by hoodlums, or electronically tagged like stray cattle. This is the generation that will soar and take India to its tryst with destiny, but most curiously and painfully, it will soon dawn on one that this generation's idea of India is divested from any interest in how majority of Indians live. It does not feel that there is anything obscene in building a $1 billion dollar home in a city, in which four crore people live in slums. For it, the idea oflndia does not extend beyond the Tatas taking over Jaguar, or the nation doing well in cricket. The angst about the staging of the Commonwealth Games is not seen when millions of tons of grains rot in granaries in a nation where more than 75 per cent of the population live on less than Rs20 per day. The heart that swells up with pride when the rupee got a symbol or when 'Slumdog Millionaire' wins an Oscar, goes cold when it actually sees a person from the slum. Twenty-four year-old Reema
Re: [Goanet] Guilty until proven innocent?
To ascertain the accuracy of what I have stated in respect of the current Indian and pre-1961 Portuguese criminal justice systems, please read the legal treatise entitled Criminal Justice India Series: Goa, 2002 written by D. Banerjea of the West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences. Here is the pertinent quote on page 137 of that book: QUOTE Under the Portuguese system, after investigation, if an offender was charged with crime, then he was, generally speaking, presumed to be guilty and the onus was on the offender during trial to prove his innocence; whereas under the Indian system, the accused is presumed to be innocent and the burden is entirely on the prosecution to prove his guilt and the Magistrate must hold him guilty beyond any shadow of doubt. UNQUOTE .Criminal Justice India Series: Goa, 2002, Page 137, Lines 12 - 17. Since I do not have a legal background I would appreciate it if Jose or anybody else could contradict the above statement by quoting from a legal document or book with greater authority and reliability, if any such item exists. Cheers, Santosh --- On Thu, 2/17/11, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: [1] Gabriel is mistaken. India's judicial system practices the principle of innocent until proven guilty. [2] It was in the Portuguese system in Goa that a person who was charged by the police state as being guilty had to prove his innocence. [3] As far as the crap regarding changing street names is concerned, I think it is a ridiculous political stunt. COMMENT: re#1: Please review the Goa Children's Act 2003 as amended. re#2: This is incorrect. The only difference between the Portuguese judicial system in Goa and the British/Judicial system is that the former is based on Roman (civil) law while the later is based on Scandinavian-descent (common) law. As far as the status of law in police states is concerned, I believe that there is NO basic difference between the Portuguese one as it existed antes 1974 and the one which exists wherever police states are operative. (I am not sure that any such areas exist on the subcontinent on Feb 17, 2011 - I certainly know they existed at least until Feb 16, 2011). ps: I have intentionally avoided an comment on HOW any state CHARGES anyone even in 2011. re #3 and the name changing exercise, I wonder what the original owners of the land (which eventually became Goa) have to say about the names of successive violent invaders who have swiped their land and deprived them (the Kunbis and Gavdes, perhaps, like me) of our land. For starters, I strongly recommend that Flaviano Dias does the following (Please) 1: Change his name forthwith. Here are some recommendations: Phall Dasi, Altu Faltu (since Flaviano - is Roman/Latin in origin - meaning not really worked out - hence classified by me as 'meaningless) and Fuloi Doss. 2: He only writes in Prakrit. 3: Attires himself (with our Kunbi permission) only in a kashti. jc
[Goanet] New Cancer Guidelines Reverse Decades of Advice
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[Goanet] Unique medical insurance project for the poor in Pokhran parish
Hi Goans everywhere, This project could be implemented to help everyone -- well off or not so -- as we grow older we need more and more medical attention and the costs of even simple procedures are prohibitive. So persuade your neighbourhood groups to set up group insurance policies for mediclaim coverage -- Mediclaim insurance for my family is covered by Bank of India's unique scheme through National Insurance Co for all those holding Bank of India Credit Cards. Premium of individual mediclaim insurance is relatively high, but as a group there will be substantial discounts -- plus as more people are insured the ratio of claims to insurance premia will fall and then the insurance companies will think of reducing these premia. A real win-win proposal. Cheers to our continued good health. Aloysius D'Souza A very good project - needs to be propagated and implemented. Please pass it on -- Forwarded message -- From: Ruth D'Souza Date: 16 February 2011 09:43 *Pokhran implements unique medical insurance project for the poor * The diagnosis and subsequent death of a young widow from cancer and her struggles to find the finances together with the strength needed to battle the disease, triggered a debate among the finance committee of Our Lady of Mercy Church, Pokhran on ‘how can we help the poor of our parish to tide healthcare problems?’ From Clara’s experience we found that the poor have to run from pillar to post for medical aid (which is meager and which necessitates spending first and then submitting bills for reimbursement), find doctors and hospitals which can offer cost effective treatment, resulting in vital time being lost. In the 3 months it took her to find aid, the disease had spread extensively. In our quest to research what could be done, we found that a few parishes in Mumbai help those in need through the community fund. However, the quantum of aid is limited because of the sheer volume of need. We found that medical insurance is an option usually for the rich as the poor can barely manage to make ends meet and have no spare funds for an insurance policy which would ensure they get health security. Weighing the pros and cons, we concluded that an insurance policy, covering families, with the premiums being paid from the community fund was the ideal solution. OLMC Pokhran has now implemented this scheme to cover the poor families of our parish. Under this scheme, we have tied up with an insurance provider for a family floater insurance scheme Families are insured for amounts of Rs 1 to 2 lacs depending on the age of the head of the family. After an elaborate exercise to identify the families, Phase 1 of the project has been rolled out in January 2011. Many thanks to our Priest in Charge, Fr Ralph Fernandes who was open to the idea and gave us the final go ahead! We hope that many more parishes will follow the lead of Pokhran to address the challenge of providing health security to the poor who are driven into the debt trap or forced to remain untreated when confronted with disease. If any parish would like to implement this scheme, the students and alumni of Power To Lead are willing to provide guidance and support. Do write to us at powertol...@gmail.com or contact Ruth D’Souza at rut...@gmail.com Ruth D’Souza Pokhran **
[Goanet] No alternative? -- (Priest Politician)
Padri Conceicao is virtually a Congress official priest (just short of a cabinet rank) A such, New Dehi could be his 'high command' and not 'Altinho' His 56th Birthday supplement in Herald dtd 13/2/11 had advertisementsreleased by many including Mauvin Godinho - Dy. Speaker Churchill Alemao - Minister Victoria and Rudolf - MLA St. Cruz - Philip Neri Rodrigues - Minister Jose Philip - Minister all the above also attended his birthday party besides, Francisco Sardinha MP, Pandurang Raut MLA, Francisco Silveira MLA and other politicians Ads were also released by Panchayat Member of Carambolim Panchayat members of Calangute Panchayat members of Azossim/Mandur Earlier, enough proof is here.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/513003994/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/503263625/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/503263597/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/503263601/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/509195010/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk6/503230988/sizes/z/ A reward from Congress - recently http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukextra2/5292135495/sizes/l/ quote: [Goanet] No alternative? -- (Priest Politician) Arwin Mesquita arwinmesquita at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 23:07:38 PST 2011 *http://www.oheraldo.in/newscategory/Letters/13* *No alternative? Carmen de Miranda, Loutolim *The Church in Goa always talks against corruption and preaches to the faithful to shun ill-gotten wealth, etc. The other day on his birthday, Fr Conceicao D’Silva, Parish Priest of Carambolim Church, launched a website – www.jesusmaryministry.org – which was inaugurated by none other than Churchill Alemao. Was there no other eminent Catholic in Goa who was worthy of inaugurating Fr Conceicao’s website rather than Churchill Alemao? joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Fingering the wrong Gandhi
COMMENT : I do not see any other ‘Ghandi’. I see: Nehrus, Khans, Ghandys, Yunuses, Mainos, ( and what next?). Read here: http://cplash.com/post/what-happened-to-the-Commission-It-submitted-its-final-report,-after-perusing-through-46,000-plus-complaints-and-holding-100-open-sittings,-on-August-6,-1978-to-the-Morarji-Desai-government-which-had921.html More sites can be verified. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
[Goanet] Can you learn Konkani then? ... A novel, language in Goa, careers and more
A report (in images and words) of the Goa Book Club meeting of Feb 17, 2011. Join us at http://groups.google.com/group/goa-book-club Books that can help... to learn Konkani: Skilled Konkani-to-English translator, writer and college lecturer Augusto Pinto (of Moira) fishes out for some books from his bag that can help you to learn Konkani. More on this thread here [http://groups.google.com/group/goa-book-club/browse_thread/thread/d03413b6fc445350] Some books suggested include (i) Speak Konkani (The Goan Language) and Have Fun: A Pocket Interpreter by Michael and Tomoko Lobo, FinDoll Communications and Publications, 119 Lobo's Vaddo, Parra, Goa, 1993. (ii) Romi Lipient Konknni Kors by Fr. Matthew Almeida, S.J. published by Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr, Alto Porvorim, Goa. Rs 250 in India. (iii) English Self-Taught or Apxinch Inglez Xiconc by Jes. de A. Souza Published by BX Furtado Sons (1935) (iv) Spoken Konkani (A Self-Learning Guide) by Edward de Lima (v) Let's Learn Konkani by S. J. Borkar http://www.amazon.com/Lets-Learn-Konk... (vi) Konkani Vyakran Sahaj Abhyas (S.J.Borkar, D Ghanekar - Rajhauns). http://www.rajhauns.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdysezediQ4 Dan Driscoll on Irene dos Santos: Canadian-Goan Dan Driscoll, a long time resident of Goa and one who has been adding literary value to the place, talks about the writing of Margaret Mascarenhas, particularly her second and newest novel, The Disappearance of Irene dos Santos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2enap1KfeY From the Netherlands... over to Konkani: Bloeme Bergmann is an MA student at Leiden University in the Netherlands. As part of her Master's degree in English Language and Culture, specialisation English Language Acquisition, she is working to research language shift among the Konkani-speaking population in Goa. My research aims to find out whether the young generations still speak fluent Konkani, whether they are shifting towards English, and if so, to what extent, and the factors influencing this possible shift, she adds. Please see http://www.thesistools.com/konkani Bloem talked about the book Where East Looks West: Success in English in Goa and on the Konkan Coast (by Dennis Kurzon) She added: As it is on the TOEFL scores, and the Dutch, my own kinsmen, as it were, scored similarly high, my interest in the subject is even greater, as the situation in the Netherlands is very different, yet very similar Dennis Kurzon's book ... (is) truly is a treasure trove of information, very helpful for my research. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWRhUfIpXp4 Ramdas Kelkar's Careernama: Former journalist, writer and principal (at Mandrem, Goa) Ramdas Kelkar talks about his career guidance book for students, in Marathi, called *Careernama*. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhU-PDLyuQU Ariosto Coelho's recently book on art and spirituality...: ... introduced at the Goa Book Club by Goanetter Cip (Cipriano) Fernandes of Arpora/the UK. Ariosto unveiled his book in Goa recently, during a visit here with his wife, longtime Goanet admin Vivian(a) Coelho. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPsDFOHe-_4 Prof. Eduardo de Souza's book: John Eric Gomes describes a book by a late nonegenarian author, Eduardo de Souza, of Pilerne, who passed away a couple of years ago. Strangely very few people have been aware of this book in in Goa itself. It's called 'From Goa With Love' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfwllESm3b4 Savia Viegas' Tales from the Attic: An introduction by author-sociologist Savia Viegas of her now quickly-going-out-of-print novel set in Goa, *Tales from the Attic*. Check the cover here http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/5... The story about the novel even has a dramatic note to it (specially, about how it got self-published and sold) :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=labxLiIAiEU Introducing Goa Remembered by Pantelao Fernandes: Anne Ketteringham, a former aeronautical engineer (and now doing some interesting wildlife photography in Goa) introduces Pantelao Fernandes' just-released well-done coffeetable book that offers some superb shots on Goa. The Word Publications, ISBN 81-903985-1-2. Rs 1500 in Goa. Hardbound, large-sized, in full colour. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEBZnW2yZI4 Leroy Veloso talks on The Priest and his Karma (by Ben Antao): At the Goa Book Club, February 17, 2011. Venue: Broadway Book Centre, Panjim 403001 Goa India. About the book: It's 1964 and Sebastian Lobo has returned to Goa after a ten-year absence. He left his homeland in a flood of anger and despair, and he's been running ever since, running from his guilt, his pain, and his past vocation. He is employed as a reporter for a newspaper in Panjim and no one knows who he used to be. Now, after having separated himself from the Catholic Church for a decade, he is consumed by an overwhelming desire to experience the sacrament of confession once again. But in the confessional he realizes in horror that the priest is from his old parish and denies him the
[Goanet] Goa news for February 18, 2011
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Celebrations begin for Lara, Mahesh! - Times of India utta-and-mahesh-bhupathi-sangeet-ceremony-and-reception-in-goa-2011021791266Lara Dutta and Mahesh Bhupathi: Sangeet ceremony and reception in Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHR3GvYiVFgQ3Y5OwReWdGgdEMNKQurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Celebrations-begin-for-Lara-Mahesh/articleshow/7515215.cms *** B'wood cops in shades of gray - IBNLive.com nterviews/Goa-police-keeps-a-check-on-Dum-Maro-Dum/articleshow/7513590.cmsGoa police keeps a check on Dum Maro Dum http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNErsFdxQKGabgJW7Kl6Pje6LlcRJQurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/photogallery/3381.html *** Lara-Bhupati's sangeet ceremony in Goa tomorrow - NDTV.com tudded 'sangeet' cermony of actress Lara Dutta and tennis star Mahesh Bhupati's wedding will be held tomorrow in Goa. The Candolim beach club, the venue of the ceremony, has been decked up in white keeping in tune with the theme for the ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHnJR3JQHuebDzX8SlgI9QR7DfUBAurl=http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?ID=ENTEN20110169675keyword=bollywoodsubcatg=MOVIESINDIAnid=86088 *** Orissa, Bengal impresse; Goa edge past Kerala, UP beat MP - Washington Bangla Radio narrow win against Kerala as Semi-final berth from Group B will be decided down the wire. Both Goa and Orissa have six points, but it's Orissa who are at the top of the standings with superior goal difference. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFtHD_x7WM-sbpzpH6U3GbFOBsNNgurl=http://www.washingtonbanglaradio.com/content/22043711-orissa-bengal-impresse-goa-edge-past-kerala-beat-mp *** Not Greece or Goa... but Grantham: World's hottest chilli grown in greenhouse ... - Daily Mail ily MailBy Daily Mail Reporter A chilli grown in a rural British county has been officially crowned the hottest in the entire WORLD. Nick 'Woody' Woods, 39, has grown a chilli that has broken all records by measuring 1.17 million on the 'scoville scale,' the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHr1ASBsunpRlzlzJ7C2RakZwNEVAurl=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358015/Not-Greece-Goa--Grantham-Worlds-hottest-chilli-grown-greenhouse-LINCOLNSHIRE.html *** Sol Poker Brings in New Ray of Sunshine to Goa - PR Web (press release) qTR8Q http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH4BIM_QyTmF6YnEfB_KUEGEHm38wurl=http://www.prweb.com/releases/2011/02/prweb5072904.htm *** Goa needs anti-graft law like in Bihar, says JD-U - Sify orruption law like the one introduced in Bihar to rein in rampant corruption in the bureaucracy, said Javed Raja, the national general secretary of the Janata Dal-United (JD-U), Thursday. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHbEtny_v5qTtfdr4E9b_8OtWt3jgurl=http://www.sify.com/news/goa-needs-anti-graft-law-like-in-bihar-says-jd-u-news-national-lcruEgdheag.html *** Mining activity 4km from Old Goa - Times of India mes of IndiaThe excavation has been carried out close to a residential area and just 4 km from Old Goa church complex. In another case, a complaint has been filed against NCP leader Jeetendra Deshprabhu in connection with mining in Corgao. But the Old Goa police ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHV49TSoq2McbbedExzeXt3tIBcHwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Mining-activity-4km-from-Old-Goa/articleshow/7518510.cms *** No end in sight to this 11-year-old epic - Times of India mes of IndiaThe River Princess may have been grounded for over 11 years now, but the issue continues to haunt Goa. On January 31, 2011, Arihant Ship Breakers, Mumbai, made a presentation to the Goa State Pollution Control Board (GSPCB), in the presence of ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGko0x9hr36kl8wKoQUr5gCQoftiAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/No-end-in-sight-to-this-11-year-old-epic/articleshow/7518557.cms *** Dhempe gets UGC nod for Mhadei project - Times of India g9mMand more » http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEwhxZlYvQzeisJRGN8wB7fl30DMwurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Dhempe-gets-UGC-nod-for-Mhadei-project/articleshow/7518553.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Delices de Goa- from the house of Cartier (2004)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoart Came across an old issue Vanity Fair magazine 2004) with a back cover advert. titled Delices de Goaapologies, don't know much about jewellery and assorted decorations but these appear to be earrings? Likely inspired by Jambul ?...take a look. Regards
Re: [Goanet] Guilty until proven innocent?
Santosh is quite right in stating India's judicial system practices the principle of innocent until proven guilty.. In theory, not in practice. In practice, it has been my observation form afar that the accused, when arrested, is first beaten up, i.e. given punishment even before trial begins. We have the recent cases of a death and a case of another woman being beaten up at the time of arrest. Then we have heard about the late FF who was forcibly taken away from home in his underwear, without being given a chance to put his clothes on. I know of a pick-pocket being given a thrashing by the cops with a chappal in full view of the public. Then there is a u-tube video of a mentally-disabled person getting trashed by the cops, And this is only in Goa. There's worse happening in the rest of India, especially in the troubled north. Then you have recent issues with dismissal of judges in Goa without having had a proper hearing, as I understand. Talking of judges, I know that the very next day after the invasion, a prominent high-court judge (yes, Goa had its own high court at one time) who was paraded in the streets by the indian army personnel and beaten up for having been a just judge during the erstwhile regime. The he was reinstated (I don't have a reference handy, so I cannot elaborate at this moment, but I think at least two publications mention this event). These are a few of the reports that have been publicised, and I think this is the tip of the iceberg. This attitude of guilty until proven innocent still persists in certain ex-colonial corners - some call it giving the third degree, I think. Gabriel. - Original Message From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thu, 17 February, 2011 8:33:09 PM Subject: [Goanet] Guilty until proven innocent? Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueiredo at yahoo.com.au wrote: And yet, India follows the British colonial system of rule (guilty unless proven innocent), and English is the lingua franca. Gabriel is mistaken. India's judicial system practices the principle of innocent until proven guilty. It was in the Portuguese system in Goa that a person who was charged by the police state as being guilty had to prove his innocence. As far as the crap regarding changing street names is concerned, I think it is a ridiculous political stunt. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] TAG Condoles Philomena's Death
TAG Condoles Philomena's Death Photo: http://bit.ly/PhilomenaBrazeCrasto Tiatr Academy of Goa has condoled the death of veteran tiatr artiste Philomena Braz e Crasto who expired on 15th February 2011. She was 77 years old. Philomena Braz e Crasto played a very important role in bringing the tiatr stage to higher standard. She was one of the few female artistes, well educated, who ventured to act on tiatr stage in spite of social taboos at that time. She was responsible to motivate many female artistes to follow her on the path of development of tiatr. Completing her education she joined National Textile Corporation Mills, Dadar, Bombay where she had a long stint of dedicated service as a Telephone Operator. In fact, she was noticed by famous singer of Konkani stage Alfred Rose who gave her the first break in his play entitled Zotkaxi Dorji. From then onwards there was no turning back to Philomena Braz. She worked with topmost directors of her time like J. P. Souzalin, Prem Kumar, M. Boyer, C. Alvares, Remy Colaco and others. Although she excelled in acting character roles, yet she was very popular among the tiatr audience as a natural comedienne. She also wrote and directed her own tiatr Axeachi Doxea which was staged all over Mumbai, Poona and Goa. She was honoured by Kala Academy Goa and Tiatr Academy Goa for her invaluable contribution to tiatr stage. In her death tiatr has lost a sincere and dedicated artiste. Let her soul rest in peace Victor de Sa Member Secretary
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (18Feb11)
*** Horror Tales of Goa *** ...and the Cursed River Princess destroyed Candolim's coastline...while the evil King laughed all the way to his Swiss Bank... To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
Re: [Goanet] Guilty until proven innocent?
On 17 February 2011 17:00, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@gmail.com wrote: To ascertain the accuracy of what I have stated in respect of the current Indian and pre-1961 Portuguese criminal justice systems, please read the legal treatise entitled Criminal Justice India Series: Goa, 2002 written by D. Banerjea of the West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences. Here is the pertinent quote on page 137 of that book: QUOTE Under the Portuguese system, after investigation, if an offender was charged with crime, then he was, generally speaking, presumed to be guilty and the onus was on the offender during trial to prove his innocence; whereas under the Indian system, the accused is presumed to be innocent and the burden is entirely on the prosecution to prove his guilt and the Magistrate must hold him guilty beyond any shadow of doubt. UNQUOTE .Criminal Justice India Series: Goa, 2002, Page 137, Lines 12 - 17. Since I do not have a legal background I would appreciate it if Jose or anybody else could contradict the above statement by quoting from a legal document or book with greater authority and reliability, if any such item exists. RESPONSE: I invite us to read what we have written antes. There are specific Acts that I have mentioned. If we are to have a logical debate, I suggest that we look at these Acts and ascertain WHERE the 'burden' lies - as a result of these Acts. Santosh had written: [1] Gabriel is mistaken. India's judicial system practices the principle of innocent until proven guilty. [2] It was in the Portuguese system in Goa that a person who was charged by the police state as being guilty had to prove his innocence. JC had written (excerpted and accentuated): re#1: Please review the Goa Children's Act 2003 (as amended) ALSO comment on the relatively new Domestic Violence Acts in India. re#2: This is incorrect. The only difference between the Portuguese judicial system in Goa and the British/Judicial system is that the former is based on Roman/civil law (inquisitorial system) while the later is based on common law (adversarial system). The EU has the benefit (now) of EU law and the European Court of Human Rights. I hope we have noted that when the police 'charge' someone, the case enters the realm of the courts. Santosh's comment is grossly offensive to the very learned and distinguished Goan judges who served Portuguese-Goa admirably. They and the Judicial system should be distinguished from the select few arrogant police folks who meted out alleged-justice before the judicial system got to see the cases. I ask: Any different now? BTW: most of the Goa Policia were Goans. The list of Goa policia can be researched and would make good reading. Almost all of them came back and joined IPS in Jan 1962. Prabhakar Sinari and Dr. Raut Desai should be able to help. As far as the status of law in a 'POLICE state' is concerned, please compare the POLICE States WHEREVER they exist and advise IF there is a difference on Feb 17, 2011. At this moment, I do not intend to comment on some book - without researching the author and his/her references. I have made my comment and Invitation is open for anyone to prove me wrong. Back to what I am doing. No further response from me on this topic until last week of March. jc
Re: [Goanet] Cancel Portuguese street names: Panel
Many names are from Roman times, before there was Christianity. The name Venantius preumably was a cognomen. venantius j pinto On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com wrote: You are right Soter. Most names and SURNAMEs of Goan Christians of earlier generation (including among the erstwhile FFFG-[Fearless Freedom Fighting Goans]are Portuguese/Spanish Christian names for sure. Since given names come from many places and times regarded Christian.-- what I was unclear about and meant, was that the FFs should drop their Portuguese christian FAMILY names, and regular names too which are not all Portuguese names, but certainly Christian (from what was considered as Christendom). Ex: Venantius/Venanzio is a christian name but does not come out of Portugal. Venantius of Camerino (this bloke was beheaded), Venantius Fortunatus, also of Italy. Furthermore, venantius is also an intensely Christian name by virtue of who these guys were--their lived and practiced spiritual aesthetic. This as opposed to say a name like Happy, Jolly, all those names ending in ette etc. which are names for sure, and appear christian to many ears. Like taking Lin (from ??? in the mind) and adding ette--to get Linette. Anyway, In this way the FFs could bring their POLITICAL aesthetic into the PERSONAL. That is called livings ones politics--which is what others are saying much more elegantly. venantius j pinto
[Goanet] Goans shying away from Konkani, says priest
Goans shying away from Konkani, says priest HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, FEB 16 Dalgado Konknni Akademi (DKA) has decided to bring out music CDs of Konkani songs by March to impress upon Goan minds these ballads were equally rich as compared to English ones that were getting more patronisation. “On birthdays or any joyous occasions, we hear English music being played. We want to awaken Goans that there are melodious songs in our mother-tongue too,” Fr Conceicao D’Silva said on Wednesday. Fr D’Silva was speaking at a press conference to announce the third Konknni (Roman script) Literary and Cultural Convention at Kala Academy on February 19 and 20. Incidentally, the theme of the convention ‘Dispottea Jivitant Konknni’ is also based on promoting Konkani language in every household. “While outsiders, including some foreigners, living in Goa speak Konkani, Goans are shying away from the language. We want to promote this language and encourage Goans to speak it,” Fr D’Silva, who is the President of the reception committee of the event, mentioned. The two-day convention will include presentation of papers and discussions on varied topics such as ‘Avoy Bhaxechem Vhoddponn’, ‘Ghora-ghoramni Konknni’, ‘Konknni Bhaxecho Vistar’, ‘Boroup Vistarachem Sadon’, ‘Vachpantlean Bhaxecho Vistar’ and other issues. Academy President Premanand Lotlikar said that they are expecting 5000-odd Goans including guests – Bishop, Sindhudurg Diocese Rev Allwyn Baretto, Santa Cruz MLA Victoria Fernandes, President of Tiatr Academy Goa Tomazinho Cardozo and others – to be participating in the programme. He said the convention will urge the Government to give equal status to Romi-Konkani as well. Alongside the convention, DKA has organized two separate exhibitions wherein books of 200 titles will be exhibited for sale, and rare and old Konkani newspapers and periodicals spanning over decades will also be displayed. http://www.oheraldo.in/news/Local%20News/Goans-shying-away-from-Konkani-says-priest/45763.html
Re: [Goanet] No alternative? -- (Priest Politician)
JoeGoaUk, Every ruling administration in history as far as we can remember has made use of men of religion (and vice-versa!) What makes us think that the current dispensation would be any different? For that matter, I remember being quite surprised when the elderly Pilar priests rushed to the BJP national convention, in their cassocks and flowers in their hands. When asked the reason, they simply said: We're come to greet our national leaders! A few days later, Advaniji made his famous I learnt my lessons of tolerance at St Patrick's, Karachi speech. That was just a few weeks before he presided over the demotion of the Babri Masjid! Manohar Parrikar, on ascending the throne in a far from uncontroversial manner, managed to get a photo with the then archbishop greeting him, prominently displayed in a local newspaper! From an ad agency, I learnt of the skulduggery involved in getting that particular photo carried. I recall the priest mentioned below was also close to Dr W de Souza, and even in the CM's home, during the turmoil that then made Goa the pariah state for supposedly being politically instable. Of course, I do not believe that the Congress is secular (or that the BJP is non-corrupt! The Congress is just a bit multi-sided in its communalism, and is prone to play its games by stealth. (Saffronised individuals will decide how the end of colonial rule in Goa is to be commemorated!) While the use of the pulpit is an issue, are we suggesting that religion is not being used -- overtly and covertly -- in all brands of politics in today's Goa? What do you see as the main concern involved below? (i) Secular politics being influenced by religious individuals? (ii) Individual priests freelancing (in the worst sense of the word) (iii) Individuals speaking on behalf of a religion and probably enriching themselves (iv) Lack of accountability on the basis of which such political stands could be taken? FN Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490 On 18 February 2011 01:17, JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Padri Conceicao is virtually a Congress official priest (just short of a cabinet rank) A such, New Dehi could be his 'high command' and not 'Altinho' His 56th Birthday supplement in Herald dtd 13/2/11 had advertisementsreleased by many including Mauvin Godinho - Dy. Speaker Churchill Alemao - Minister Victoria and Rudolf - MLA St. Cruz - Philip Neri Rodrigues - Minister Jose Philip - Minister
[Goanet] What did Digu get from Mr Raheja?
Rajan wrote: News in today's Herald - Digu gives Raheja permission to go ahead with construction in Carmona. This should be a test case for the people of Salcette. If this project is allowed to go ahead, then you can kiss Salcette goodbye. Raheja et al should be thrown out of Goa, and Digu given a garland of chappals. My reply: It's nothing more than one builder backing another builder! Now is the acid test for Carmoncars!! In any case, I think, overall he disserves more than the garland you proposed!!! Best regards, U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Mining starts at Old Goa: West Goans will soon feel the nuisance of Mining.
So far the Mining has been a nuisance only for East Goans, and the so called concerned activists in the west Goa were not at all bothered about the pollution (dust and noise) and traffic hazards suffered by East Goans. The Oscar led Regional Plan Bachao Abhiyan had only one agenda RP and no other issue for Goa and the name GBA was a misnomer. But this news about digu-ing in Old Goa is a precursor, to things to come. The day is not far when West Goans will also be inhaling dust and dying under truck wheels. Read: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Mining-activity-4km-from-Old-Goa/articleshow/7518510.cms Rajendra
[Goanet] Fwd: Re. No alternative? (Padri Conceicao is virtually a Congress official priest )
From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com date: 17 February 2011 19:49 Subject: Letter to the Editor To: Ashwin Tombat edi...@herald-goa.com Dear Sir/Madam, Please can you publish my letter in your esteemed media. Sincerely, Arwin Mesquita, [ADDRESS AND PHONE NO] Subject: Alternative Influence This is with reference to the Letter by Carmen Miranda (No Alternative? dated 17th Feb 2011). Can I please request Fr. Conceicao D’Silva to use his very good influence with PWD Minister Churchill Alemao to (1) Lobby for Special Status to Goa for preserving its identity (2) Stopping the government pursuance of MOPA and the fooling of Goans by the Dabolim continuation ploy [will 2 airports be economically viable in Goa and why do we need two airports] and (3) Stopping Raheja's designs at Carmona. If Fr. Conceicao manages to get Churchill to accomplish these three thing, then I will invite both of them for my birthday!! Arwin Mesquita, UAE. From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com Subject: [GOAN-NRI] No alternative? To: goan-...@yahoogroups.co.in, Date: Thursday, 17 February, 2011, 12:16 PM *http://www.oheraldo.in/newscategory/Letters/13* *No alternative? Carmen de Miranda, Loutolim *The Church in Goa always talks against corruption and preaches to the faithful to shun ill-gotten wealth, etc. The other day on his birthday, Fr Conceicao D’Silva, Parish Priest of Carambolim Church, launched a website – www.jesusmaryministry.org – which was inaugurated by none other than Churchill Alemao. Was there no other eminent Catholic in Goa who was worthy of inaugurating Fr Conceicao’s website rather than Churchill Alemao? -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 6. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/
Re: [Goanet] Death of Goa's fields due to lack of low cost manual labour
Low cost manual labor ? Gotta be kidding. I live in Goa and need labor occasionally for specific tasks. So I go to the decrepit and defunct Bazaar area in Porvorim where the migrant labor congregate to offer their services. Going rate right now ? Rs. 300 per day (it was Rs 250 last year, and who knows how much it will be next year !). Try to hire one, and they (probably looking out for each other) demand that you hire two or they wont come. They will work from 8:30 to 5:30 with a 2-hour mid-day lunch/siesta break. At 5:00 p.m. they start washing up and dressing in preparation to go home. You have to provide transportation from the Bazaar to your home and back. Then they tell you what work they will do and what they will NOT do. You have to closely supervise them, or very little gets done. I caught some of them taking long breaks to ingest some type of stimulant, I think it was tobacco and limestone powder. You ask them where they come from, and they say Bihar, Jharkhand, Chattisgarh, Orrisa and sometimes Karnataka. So even the origin of the migrant workers has changed. It used to be that what we sometimes called Ghatis came from over the Ghats in neighboring Maharashtra or Karnataka. Word has spread afar that Goa is the land of milk and honey. Re Field (Agricultural) work. They have no idea about the type of Agricultural work we do in Goa. They can dig a ditch, move a pile of stones from here to there, carry a few bags of cement or chirre (cut stones), clear brush etc. Has to be relatively simple stuff. So who is going to till the fields ?? My fellow villagers tell me that the only reliable workers they occasionally get are mostly from Maharashtra who time their arrival in Goa at the time of harvesting the rice. They specialize in scything the rice stalks and foot stomping/thrashing the rice stalks to separate the grain from the stalk. Its a sellers market. They survey the size of the field to be harvested and quote a price. Take it or leave it. They are in demand, and no haggling over the price. Take it or let your grain rot ! At least these workers come to Goa for a specific task and return to their home villages in Maharashtra when the work is done, unlike the workers from the faraway states who build shacks on anybody's vacant land and live with their families, procreating, children running about naked, and defecating anywhere. Another neighbor needed workers to clear her Cashew plantation. The hills where the cashews are grown are choked with weeds and thorny brush after the monsoons. The cashew plantations have to be cleared of the brush and weeds so that the cashews can be collected. Hardly any laborers are willing to undertake the onerous task. I can foresee a time when cashews cannot be collected and our beloved Feni will be scarcer than it is right now. These are the personal observations of a Bhatcar in Goa.
Re: [Goanet] Guilty until proven innocent?
Santosh, Neither do I have a judicial beckground, nor training. What I do know is that the Portuguese follow a Civil Code and Criminal code and the British have a system of Acts of Parliament and precedents. That the two are radically different is the extent of my knowledge in these matters. Gabriel. - Original Message From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Fri, 18 February, 2011 8:59:17 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Guilty until proven innocent? To ascertain the accuracy of what I have stated in respect of the current Indian and pre-1961 Portuguese criminal justice systems, please read the legal treatise entitled Criminal Justice India Series: Goa, 2002 written by D. Banerjea of the West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences. Here is the pertinent quote on page 137 of that book: QUOTE Under the Portuguese system, after investigation, if an offender was charged with crime, then he was, generally speaking, presumed to be guilty and the onus was on the offender during trial to prove his innocence; whereas under the Indian system, the accused is presumed to be innocent and the burden is entirely on the prosecution to prove his guilt and the Magistrate must hold him guilty beyond any shadow of doubt. UNQUOTE .Criminal Justice India Series: Goa, 2002, Page 137, Lines 12 - 17. Since I do not have a legal background I would appreciate it if Jose or anybody else could contradict the above statement by quoting from a legal document or book with greater authority and reliability, if any such item exists. Cheers, Santosh
Re: [Goanet] Guilty until proven innocent?
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:29:57 -0800, Santosh Helekar wote : To ascertain the accuracy of what I have stated in respect of the current Indian and pre-1961 Portuguese criminal justice systems, please read the legal treatise entitled Criminal Justice India Series: Goa, 2002 written by D. Banerjea of the West Bengal National University of Juridical Sciences. Here is the pertinent quote on page 137 of that book:……… COMMENT : All said and done, what difference does it make to the innocent? Is the innocent who is accused not kept in jail until the Courts declare you are Not Guilty. That too may be even for decades in jail as in many cases due to the lethargy in the Indian Judiciary system unlike the pre-1961 Portuguese criminal justice system? All this play of words is just “India is Shining”! Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
