[Goanet] Goa news for December 31, 2012
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa to move resolution demanding special status - Daily Pioneer p to the meeting with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh earlier this month, where Parrikar has ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGWjwjK_Uo85IY3JkSVXdUoeB1dMw&url=http://dailypioneer.com/nation/119246-goa-to-move-resolution-demanding-special-status.html *** Assam 134/1 in reply to Goa - Deccan Chronicle esai-s-ton-helps-goa-reach-264-3-in-ranji_1783212">Amogh Desai's ton helps Goa reach 264/3 in Ranji http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGNNdtd5ZstHj-sb8Nh2OcyuI82XQ&url=http://www.deccanchronicle.com/121230/sports-cricket/article/assam-1341-reply-goas-381-all-out *** Goa expresses anger, mourns Delhi gang-rape victim's sad departure - Times of India ased music icon Remo Fernandes wrote in: "Mourning for the girl.http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHi2CSs1bBpGTGv7H8yBxgSNiUsmQ&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-expresses-anger-mourns-Delhi-gang-rape-victims-sad-departure/articleshow/17815443.cms *** Members debate importance of special status for Goa at youth convention - Times of India ed state government in carrying forward this demand of the people. Gracias was addressing the audience at the ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHWtGibtW76cqmfdjM8ItBJ8Fkr9A&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Members-debate-importance-of-special-status-for-Goa-at-youth-convention/articleshow/17813318.cms *** CM hailed for demanding special status for Goa - Times of India aj party has hailed the decision of chief minister Manohar Parrikar, to demand special status for Goa by amending Article 371 of the Constitution at the NDC meet in New Delhi two days ago. The amendment of Article 371 of the ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNH6gePocRBQfh3ay1WGn7LD_kwB0g&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/CM-hailed-for-demanding-special-status-for-Goa/articleshow/17813262.cms *** Goa govt-MoEF in war of words over illegal mining in the state - Hindustan Times ixXkGiRM&ned=us"> http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGcQbaGJmpiX1o5kxf-uaoLNI1JgQ&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Goa/Goa-govt-MoEF-in-war-of-words-over-illegal-mining-in-the-state/Article1-982759.aspx *** Lesser beach beds, tables outside shacks take fun out of Goa's tourism - Times of India gFa-QguFqg6M&ned=us">and more » http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNG7oNyBXyGvNt4iWUTfFW-20BwWcw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Lesser-beach-beds-tables-outside-shacks-take-fun-out-of-Goas-tourism/articleshow/17823973.cms *** Delhi gang rape: Such incident won't happen in Goa, says Manohar Parrikar - Economic Times ape in Delhi would not happen in his state, because police there had been asked to show zero tolerance to offences against women. "Even if a single molestation ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFjr7NybvElClBNk2J_QrqyORHyRw&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/delhi-gang-rape-such-incident-wont-happen-in-goa-says-manohar-parrikar/articleshow/17821884.cms *** Goa expresses solidarity with Nirbhaya - Times of India mes of IndiaMARGAO: Rallying under the banner of 'We stand for justice', concerned citizens from all walks of life from Margao and surrounding areas, gathered at Lohia Maidan, Margao, on Sunday evening in solidarity with the Delhi gang rape victim who died on ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEmuW458JFRgqOTEEV23bvY6CnO8w&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-expresses-solidarity-with-Nirbhaya/articleshow/17824168.cms *** Iron ore prices to keep NMDC, Sesa Goa hot - Hindu Business Line onth high. Iron ore prices gained momentum as China's factory output and retail sales jumped for the last three months, signalling an economic recovery. Chinese ore ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEJLE-U_5Aqvya-xOo41Ts0NB27Ag&url=http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/markets/stock-markets/iron-ore-prices-to-keep-nmdc-sesa-goa-hot/article4256255.ece Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] HAPPY NEW YEAR 2013
Dear Friends, Thank you for everything during the year 2012. Received it abundantly.Wishing you ALL JOYFUL, PEACEFUL NEW YEAR 2013.May you RECEIVE all these and MORE so that you have surplus and can give some to others too. Best RegardsMario & fly __,_._,___
[Goanet] Roland Francis: A Little Bit of Heaven - Stray Thoughts of a Canadian Goan
Source: Goan Voice UK: Daily Newsletter, 30 Dec 2012 at www.goanvoice.org.uk You've lived your life like the meek of the earth. Earned your living for as long as you could or needed to, raised a family to love and respect the world around them and in between you have done what you could for those less fortunate than you. You had skeletons in the cupboard and they brought you many regrets but then you never thought of yourself as a saint nor did you paint yourself into the corner of a sinner even with the guilt of being told you were born as one. Wasn't it understood that by definition of being human, in adulthood we are all natural transgressors. So at the end, what awaits you? If you were raised in the Goan Catholic tradition as in many other Catholic cultures of the last century, there is this fear of the unknown or worse still, of a burning hell. After all we were converted from ancient Hinduism neither out of a prospect of a better life in Goa, nor out of a theologically sound reason nor by good example, but out of fear of the sword and of eternal damnation. It had to be like that since the mystic faith our ancestors practiced seemed better suited for that place and time. Hell was an essential component of the fear that was made to choke us in order to convert. A searing, burning hell that not satisfied with making ashes or char out of a soul that was supposed to separate from its body, kept burning it forever. Forever, at the best of times, is a concept that is difficult to grasp when viewed from the mortal human condition, but when applied to burning, it becomes somehow both real and frightening. Take a moment and look at it like the Economist tempts you to do in an article this week "Religion thrives on fear as well as hope: without fear bad behavior has no sanction and clerical authority scant respect". Heaven and hell explained tersely. The fable held out in ancient times by philosophers that the eternal soul departed from a mortal body fit in nicely with the church's concept of hell. The body could be buried or cremated after death, suffering no further pain, but an immortal soul could offer itself to unbearable suffering forever. That is until Descartes in the seventeenth century blew away this idea with his philosophy that the soul not being material like the body, could suffer no pain. What if it is true that after one dies, there is nothing more left, as believed by most men of science and philosophy. What if immortality is a fiction emanating from a mind that cannot come to terms with the limited time ahead of it and that besides memories, we leave little and for a very short while. Does it change anything for us in the here and now besides requiring a major adjustment in the way we think? No more masses required for dead souls, or sadly, no chance of meeting loved ones in happier settings. Try to make the world a better place and then be gone to nothingness. If you observe atheists and other non-believers of an afterlife, they are serene and contented. They face death with much more equanimity and in life they are better people. Which is more than one can say of the rest of us. What has religion done other than give us all those fears, guilt and misgivings, not to talk of those grievous wrongs that it has helped perpetrate over the ages on the poor and vulnerable. Granted it has been responsible for modern mass education and therefore progress and in other ways it has played an unintended role in the human story. But also ever so often, it chooses to belittle itself with modern day denial of gender rights, birth control and other markers of evolvement and development. If we choose to believe in a creator and sustainer and a heaven and hell, it is our prerogative. Both sides can be right and neither side has enough proof of its case. Science provides proof but with great gaps and sometimes uncertainty while faith is no more than a large leap. The best we can do is exercise a conscience and understanding that we have come by either as a gift of an intelligent creator or as a result of the right chemicals and electrical impulses in a brain that has had millions of years behind it on the path to better ability. Should I be thankful to all those Goan ancestors who have been responsible for me inheriting a particular faith among all others as an accident of history, or should I rue them for the rituals, tenets and practices some of which seem absurd and all of which are dependent on the support of a highly organized clergy. If I am able to put aside my fears and replace it with clarity, I can make a choice on how to lead my life, by virtue of being in a time and place where there are no consequences other than those I assign to myself. We are indeed fortunate that no longer is there a Damocles sword, temporal or spiritual, hanging over us as there was once. Like those ancient tribes of Israel we are walking towards a hopeful future, this time choosing our path without the pain of hunger
[Goanet] Ban tourism in Goa?
JC, read this entire message which answers your questions. Your message reference: message number: 1, Dated: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 - Reference: Goanet Digest, Vol 7, Issue number 1069. I also request Goanet members to read this message in great detail. For cross reference, I've appended JC's recent message to me including all appended messages appended by JC, although they are not complete as is required. Before I answer JC's remark that my post # 227855 is a LIE, little about English Dialect which is JC's favorite weapon! I read and know "British English", "American English", "Australian English". I also know that there exists a gigantic list of dialects of English languages. For the list of English dialects click at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dialects_of_the_English_language Each of the existing English dialects differs in pronunciation; vocabulary, word choices and grammar. About .com gives a list of 10 types of grammar which is interchangeably used by all existing English Dialects: http://grammar.about.com/od/basicsentencegrammar/a/tengrammartypes.htm Considering such a BIG list of dialects of English Languages and the variations involved, I definitely consider 'English Language' to be a DIFFICULT language! JC, always takes benefit of existing variations in English dialects, may be also for self propaganda, by OBFUSCATING (hiding intended meaning in your communication, making communication confusing with your stupid responses and or comments, dragging in points/personalities/ organization names which has no relevance to subject in question, willfully remaining ambiguous, and harder to interpret.) his mails to Goanet. But, JC never forgets to highlight and pass remarks over English mistakes of selected members (that includes me) even if they are typo mistakes! In case of such mistakes or even worst mistakes of other members he prefers to be silent! Most importantly, JC never writes on the subject under discussion but always prefers to twist the subject by raising 'n' number of unwanted, unrelated comments/queries/questions! To confirm what I have written herein above, members of Goanet can check all postings of JC's (including Jose Colaco, J. Colaco, Dr. Jose Colaco) In present situation too, instead of replying to subject under discussion, JC preferred to raise 8 comments which are unrelated and unwanted. Surprisingly, in his 8th comment he dragged the name of Goa Foundation! Can JC give any justifications for all these things you did and doing? But this is not my tendency. I write what I feel right and straight forward! Most importantly, I believe, by writing to forums like Goanet no member can make self propaganda or get any fame has JC says! Writing to forums is only exchange of views of a person on a SPECIFIC SUBJECT under discussion without dragging in unwanted, unrelated subject(s). And I think most Goanet members believe and do the same. Professional forums are totally different game ball. In such forums self propaganda, getting name and fame is most likely. YES I do understand the meaning of Kangress and I also comprehend JC too understand the meaning of Kangresss. I admit I don't know what is meant by 'Hacktivists'! Will JC explain the meaning of SLANG word 'Hacktivists' used / tossed by him? REGARDING my post # 227855, I don't know which post JC is talking about as I receive Goanet mails in the form of Goanet Digest and not individualized messages like probably JC is receiving as per his request. Hence I have no means to track which mail JC is talking about. Will JC, provide me the link of my post # 227855 either from Goanet Digest or from individual mail list. Thereafter, I'll prove who is LIAR - JC or me! I ACCEPT JC's CHALLENGE on this issue! JC, GOA's self styled & self practicing HISTORIAN of Goa, writes volumes about Goa's what, when, where, including commenting on Goans like Dayanand Bandodkar (first CM of Goa) etc. hence I presume I need not provided JC with details about how many years Kangress ruled Goa! He must know this!! And if JC now say that he don't know about this detail I'll be compelled to presume JC to be not Goan and that whatever JC writes or have written about Goa and that about Goans so far are only Atypical TAVERNA GOSSIPS! While concluding the message JC writes following text with a prefix (BTW): 'If Dr. Barad says that the Congress Party has been corrupt in Goa, and others state that the BJP has been both corrupt and communal, I begin to wonder again whether Ole_Xac isn't actually right.' My BTW: Instead of writing unwanted and unrelated responses / messages to Goanet, JC must keep wondering lifelong on what I say and what others state about Goa and Goanet till he finds right answer for himself! Practicing this way will prove healthier for JC!! Best regards, U. G. Barad JC WROTE TO ME: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 09:40:54 -0500 From: Jose Colaco To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Subje
Re: [Goanet] Special meet at Sal to address ‘ Tillari issue’
Dear Samir, I do remember one of the Chief Ministers in Goa promising to promote agriculture at at the lower levels to encourage more home-state grown vegetables rather than the massive importation from surrounding States ( like from the Belgaum area ). Of course the attention of recent governments has been occupied by the massive illegal mining and the interests of the the family-corporate entities that depend on mining to support their family business empires. To your knowledge what has happened about the Mahdhei river issue that was a source of contention between Goa and the neighbouring state of Karnataka ?Is there any connection with this Tillari irrigation sytem and the Mhadei issue ? - Original Message - From: "samir umarye" To: ; ; "Goa Net" Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:15 AM Subject: [Goanet] Special meet at Sal to address ‘ Tillari issue’ -- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM: Concerned about the plight of the farmers affected by the ongoing agitation of the Tillari rehabilitees, a special gram sabha has been convened at Sal village on January 6 to chalk out the village’s response to the issue. The meeting is significant since many residents of Sal have begun accusing the Tillari- affected people living at Kholpewadi- Sal of indirectly helping the agitators. “ We have been told that many from Kholpewadi are supporting the agitators. If this is the case, they do not have any right to live in the village. They should make their stand clear on this issue, either by supporting us or leaving the village and the State,” said a farmer. The farmers claimed they were not fully convinced about constant assurances by authorities and had, therefore, decided to hold the gram sabha. “ We have been informed that the two states will meet on January 18 to resolve the issue, but there is no guarantee that the problem will be sorted out during that meeting,” the farmer added. Said Sal Sarpanch, Ghanasham Raut, “ We have decided to discuss the problem in the gram sabha on January 6.” On Friday, the PWD placed about 320 mts of pipeline to pump water from the Chapora River into the affected fields. “ In next two days, we will supply water to some of the affected fields,” said PWD officials present at the site.
Re: [Goanet] Ban tourism in Goa?
On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:33 AM, "U. G. Barad" wrote: > > BARAD (1) Today's message, appended below, leaves no doubt that you now > started forgetting what you are writing and in what name: JC ..etc. In > fact, I've actually understood the cause of your forgetfulness, without even > physically diagnosing you. jc1: I did not know that (in Goa), pharmacists and compounders make diagnosis. > BARAD (2) I don't have to provide any evidence just do archive search in > Goanet for yourself and you will get the truth out from there. I'm pretty > confident that you are too good at doing archive searching. jc 2: a well known technique by the hit and run person who has NO evidence to support his canard. > BARAD (3) Your present message also gives another indication that you are > feed up of both Kangress and Bhaji Pala! So, henceforth, what are you > planning to propagate! jc 3: perhaps, you will try that again in proper English. I am not familiar with Ingraji. jc thank you rain and snow .for easing up..opportunity to get some fresh air WHILE the good "Doctor" identifies the 25-30 years during which Congress/Kangress (as the Bhaji Pala folks call them) ruled Goa. OR Will he try the DUCK again by telling me to search for evidence to prove his LIE? - > Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com wrote on Mon, 24 Dec 2012 > > Dear Dr Barad, > > I invite you to provide evidence that I responded to the msg you appended > below OR even that I wrote on the topic in your subject line ( before now ) > > I know that the Kangress and Bhaji Pala folks are known to invent nooj. > > Et tu B? > > Happy Christmas to you, yours and all who see this msg > > >
Re: [Goanet] Pathetic Christianity
Venantius, Thanks. Coming back to the topic of self-righteous chauvinists, the question I have is, why do they have a persecution complex irrespective of whether they are in the majority or the minority? In India, for example, a significant number of followers of all three major religions, namely Hinduism, Islam and Christianity have an unhealthy persecution complex. Unlike the West, however, they do not consider themselves victims of atheists, that is if you discount the occasional crackpot activist comparisons to Jinnah, Hitler, Stalin, etc. But the secularists are the target of their wrath everywhere and on all sides. Cheers, Santosh - Original Message - > From: Venantius J Pinto > > Hi Santosh, > The clarification is to your credit, and your response should help those > who asked the question below of you: > “some people ask me, what is the difference between a > self-righteous chauvinist and a regular person who believes that there > are right and wrong answers to many questions?” > > You indeed made good of an opportunity to share your clarity. We can only > owe that quality to ourselves. > Best. >
Re: [Goanet] Church stance in Kerala
>From what I understand in the article, the Kerala govt is the sole selling >agent of liquor in that state. The last time I was there, a few years ago, the >only places you could get toddy, I was told, were govt owned toddy shops. This >article is a request to the govt to stop merchandising liquor in the name of >the state. -- On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 1:55 PM AEDT U. G. Barad wrote: > >A friend of mine from Kerala has sent me the enclosed article. He wants to >know the position of the Roman Catholic Church in Goa on the two issues of >liquor and the Gadgil report. I must confess I do not know anything about >what the Gadgil report is all about, except what is written in the article. > >Best regards, > >U. G. Barad > > >Church asks state to stop selling liquor >Author: >Publication: The CSF >Date: December 16, 2012 >URL: >http://persecutedchurch.info/2012/12/18/church-asks-state-to-stop-selling-li >quor/ > > >The meeting also urged the government to reject the Madhav Gadgil panel >report on Western Ghats. > >The Catholic Church in Kerala has asked the state to stop selling liquor. >The demand came after a meeting of the Kerala Catholic Bishops Council >(KCBC) in Kochi. The meeting also approved a 27-point guideline of its >temperance commission to establish a drug and liquor-free society in the >state. “India may be the only country where state governments are the main >agents in liquor trade,” it said. > > >“A government responsible to its people should withdraw from the liquor >trade > >
