Re: [Goanet] Goa's Coming Election

[Roland Francis]

Good one João Barros!

Roland 

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Joao Barros-Pereira 
>  wrote:
> 
> Goans are
> empty vessels
> 
> canoes
> sailing on
> dangerous
> waters
> 
> with room
> only for
> wrongdoers
> 
> others
> not welcome
> 
> next
> election
> will change
> nothing
> 
> except
> the boat
> 
> which
> will be
> under water
> 
> what does joao want to say?

[Goanet] What Next India?

[Roland Francis]

During the first half Parakala Prabhakaran analyses the geopolitical effect on 
the neighbourhood of Afghanistan.

It is his following half that you must pay attention to: Can the liberal, 
secular heritage within the country resist the three forces going to be soon 
let loose, sometimes in concert with each other - Islamic fundamentalism, Hindu 
fundamentalism and the deep Indian state.

He also brings up an interesting concept that China pushes - governing 
authorities that are first selected and then elected, rather than the western 
concept of totally elected. 

Coming closer to home in Goa, imagine the Chinese concept of selection and then 
election being set in motion. It will mean:
First weed out all the criminals, the poorly educated, the openly corrupt and 
then put up for elections only the persons thus vetted.

https://youtu.be/ZZEvYKe7w9g

Roland.
Toronto.

[Goanet] Goa's Coming Election

[Joao Barros-Pereira]

Goans are
empty vessels

canoes
sailing on
dangerous
waters

with room
only for
wrongdoers

others
not welcome

next
election
will change
nothing

except
the boat

which
will be
under water

what does joao want to say?

[Goanet] The Future Of The Virus

[Roland Francis]

An Australian virologist plots the best and worst case scenarios.

Virologist Eddie Holmes lays out how COVID will likely shape our lives in the 
years to come - ABC News
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-26/virologist-eddie-holmes-covid-scenarios/100399974

Roland.
Toronto.

[Goanet-News] VIDEO: Eat a meal for a Euro (equivalent) in Mapusa.... Walkthrough the Mapusa fishmarket

[Frederick Noronha]

Eat a meal for a Euro (equivalent) in Mapusa
Needless to say, price comparisons can be misleading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWe-av-7Co

Walkthrough the Mapusa fish market
It sounds like one, it smells like one, and is quite a bit slushy
But Goans love their fish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_lmc8msTBE
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[Goanet] Goan Elections

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

Dear Mr Colaco

Your Message dated : Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:12:51 + (UTC)

on the  Subject: [Goanet] Goan Election
Message-ID: <1928602307.671181.1629886371...@mail.yahoo.com>

Your Message starts with a negative attitude ..Such an approach will give
you what you expect. Zilch

TWO  you blame everybody for  the last 6 decades  and you expect the
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[Goanet] Death of Osterio Rodrigues from Dar es Salaam

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

Dear Anita Dias and the Rest of the Family
I saw the  message you sent moments ago.  It is sad when anybody passed
away. May his Soul be Accepted in the heavenly abode

In a few years time Mr  OSTERIO APOLINARIO RODRIGUES  would have been 100
years ...and to think that he was in Dar es Salaam with his family

When things settle down it would be good if you or anybody in the family
could write to me .  I am trying to collect as much material as I can on
the Goans in Tanzania they played a critical role in German East Africa
and also when the British took over  and to some extent even now

It would be good if we could write about our pioneers

Stay safe ...God Bless You all

Adolfo Mascarenhas
Still in Dar es Salaam

[Goanet] VIDEO: Eat a meal for a Euro (equivalent) in Mapusa.... Walkthrough the Mapusa fishmarket

[Frederick Noronha]

Eat a meal for a Euro (equivalent) in Mapusa
Needless to say, price comparisons can be misleading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWe-av-7Co

Walkthrough the Mapusa fish market
It sounds like one, it smells like one, and is quite a bit slushy
But Goans love their fish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_lmc8msTBE
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[Goanet] Henry the Navigator and What Followed ....How much is it a Myth but then Goans are not a Myth ....and Luso Culture is global

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

Message 4 Dated of Sun, 22 Aug 2021 23:04:48 +0530

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Goa 1961 (Op Vijay-1) :: 1961 GOA OPS  The background (Valmiki Faleiro)

valmi...@gmail.com



I read the piece with great interest. Suddenly, one individual, Valmiki
Faleiro, made me sit up because the book he wrote a decade earlier  is
being revised and will come every week. This week we are told



 This column hereafter carries the 1961 Goa Ops part   from a
revised chapter of the book, Patriotism In   Action: Goans in
India?s Defence Services byValmiki Faleiro, first published in
2010 by   Goa,1556 (ISBN: 978-93-80739-06-9).  Revised
edition is to be published.





He further notes

<<>>the reader will enjoy reading it as much as the
author enjoyed writing it!



His pleasure is our pleasure :



There are several things that stuck me in a cascade.

First  What struck me was that one of the world’s greatest colonizers was
itself colonized by the Romans. Both Spain and Portugal were part of the
Roman Empire. Latin was the common language of these two Roman colonies.
Yet over time, indeed  for centuries the languages took a different course.
Yet, one cannot learn Portuguese and expect to know Spanish. Currently the
two languages are quite different.



Secondly   Portugal, though puny with a population of barely
one million and poor maritime traditions was the   first European
nation to chart a sea route to Asia.

  The fall of Constantinople (now Istanbul) to the
Ottoman Turks on 29 May 1453 and ensuing closure of   the land
route for Asian merchandise led to the  search for a sea route.



Thirdly, How many Goans, who are so proud of their Luso connections, know
much of

<<<>>



This noble Prince transformed the half-decked sailboats, and sailors who
did not have the skills or education to navigate without keeping visible
reference to land. The Prince decided to make the Training of Portuguese
sailors with Arab, Jewish and Genoese help….perhaps even an Indian
Mathematician or two to improve the skills and the vessels. The Italians
who centuries before took the land route to go to China at most could do
about 20 Kilometres a day. In good weather a ship could do 50 or more
kilometers a day.   Soon Portugal emerged as a European leader in
“<<>> new lands from West Africa to  India and all the way to
Japan in the East and Brazil in the West.



Fourthly,  how many Goans know that Lisbon is the oldest capital in Europe  But
it also turns out that Lisbon, the capital of Portugal is the oldest in
Europe. It was established circa 1200 BC, -- older than Madrid, Rome, Paris
and London.



Yet,  the Indian civilisation was far more ancient, next only to
Mesopotamia and Egypt, and followed by the civilisations of Maya/Mexico,
China and Andes (Aztec, Inca), all much older than Europe. Yet all these
countries and their civilizations became colonies in a small way, by the
Romans but then in a quantum leap by the Portugese. They not only imposed
or converted their citizens to Catholism, but mixed freely with local
people.



Portugal under Prince Henry the Navigator had a population of about 1
million, today has a population of .11 million. India and China each have a
population of over a billion. Portugal the puny state has hundred times
less than the 2 giant countries.



Fifthly,OK Goans do not know much about Prince Henry the Navigator , who
sent Vasco De Gama, Albuquerue and Cabra…but they know even less of a  Marquês
de Pombal .who in
1761 ABOLISHED slavery in Africa  that is several decades before
Livingstone and the abolishist campaigned for the end of child labour and
slavery in Africa. On the flip side the Marques also banned the Jesuits
from Goa.  The clever Jesuits,   they moved away from Goa and moved in the
hugh British to India and look at their impact on education, rights of
other people including tribals and on the Moslem education etc in Pakistan.



Grandolfo says what is next ….It is a good thing that Valmiki Faleiro,
piece comes only once a week. I am exhausted  Yet  there is so much to say
about, Colonialism,  Slavery, slavery etc

[Goanet] NOW MAY GOD & MOTHER NATURE PROTECT OUR TEMPLE OF JUSTICE

[Aires Rodrigues]

With the very structural stability of our new High Court building at
Porvorim on a cliffhanger, the onus is now squarely on the erring Goa State
Infrastructure Development Corporation (GSIDC) to move swiftly to see what
remedial measures can be taken to save this very vital structure which has
cost the taxpayer over 125 crores.

Given the very heavy rainfall our State experiences, the Gujarat High Court
model with a flat roof should never have been replicated.

The flat roof is very inappropriate as our High Court required a properly
sloped and also strong wind resilient roof given the location.

If this structural cock-up can be remedied, it may be appropriate to
replace that awful looking barbed wire around our High Court as our’s is a
Temple of Justice and not a detention centre.

This major High Court construction goof up warrants that the GSIDC should
now be headed by persons with technical expertise.

The first Goan to be appointed Judge of the Bombay High Court, the very
illustrious and distinguished Dr Gustavo Filipe Couto who passed away last
week has been saved the ordeal of having to witness what would be a leaking
High Court if the experts are unable to rectify the grave structural
blunder before the next monsoons.

While the Damocles’ sword hangs, for now all that we can do is hope and
pray that Goa’s highest Temple of Justice be saved from this imminent man
made structural catastrophe.

Adv. Aires Rodrigues

C/G-2, Shopping Complex

Ribandar Retreat

Ribandar – Goa – 403006

Mobile No: 9822684372

Office Tel  No: (0832) 2444012

Email: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com



You can also reach me on

Facebook.com/ AiresRodrigues

Twitter@rodrigues_aires

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[Goanet] Osterio Rodrigues RIP

[Anita Dias]

Death: Osterio Rodrigues. Ex Dar es Salaam

22 Aug: Novangolly, Varca, Goa. OSTERIO APOLINARIO RODRIGUES Born March 1924. 
Ex Dar es Salaam. Beloved husband of late Elvira Sanches e Rodrigues. Loving 
father/ father-in-law of Sr. Alba (PBVM), late Brian (Holy Cross Group of 
Business)/ Anita, Celina/ late Napoleon Fernandes, Donald (Goa University)/ 
Violet. Doting grandfather of Deepti/ Franky Rodrigues, Sr. Divya Fernandes 
(PBVM), Delia (MMHS)/Aswold Rebelo, Christabel, Donnie/ Simons, Elton, Sheldon 
& Melinda. Affectionate great grandfather of Dan, Fay, Ria, Annabeth and 
Advique. Passed away peacefully.
Funeral Cortege left his residence - Casa Osterio, Varca for Our Lady of Gloria 
Church, Varca at 4:00 p.m. on 23" August 2021 for the Eucharistic Celebration 
followed by burial.

[Goanet] Goan Election

[Bernado Colaco]

 Don't blame the past, see what you have done in these 6 decades. But clearly 
agree that Goans are a lazy lot. In Mocambique Goans are called canecos, 
meaning empty vessels. With all the assets we have can we turn the tide. Or 
else give it to a dozen enterprising Chinese they might change things.
BC

Ever since the former Portuguese colonists craved a half mooned slice out
of the Indian's west coast waist, the ancient lands of Goa has never been
the same. Advanced, but foreign ideas of slow, southern living on the
plantations type of easy existence persists.
 Now those badly maryied Goans don't want to work the hard but productive
land, and an illeriate government doesn't want to make man's first
occupation, agriculture, into an industry status.
 Only Saint Joseph Vaz can save these sons of the soil, who dont till.


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Schedule for Thursday 26th August 2021

12:00 AM
Rosary - Luminous Mysteries

12:27 AM
Senior Shepherd  - Fr Rufino Coutinho sj  interviewed by Sheena Barnes

12:43 AM
Song - Jezu - Cassino D'Costa

12:50 AM
Hymn - Yeshu Ki Jai Ho - Savina & Leon Gonsalves

12:56 AM
Amchem-xim Rav - Theme Hymn of Pastoral Year

1:00 AM
Mass in Konkani for Wednesday

1:45 AM
Maria Mai - Talk by Mathew Fernandes

1:58 AM
Hymn - You are my all in all -Saxophone cover - Fr Seville Antao - OFM(Cap)

2:00 AM
Saibinnichi Ruzai - Uzvaddache Mister

2:26 AM
Devachem Utor  - Dhormdutancho Itihas - Avesvor 17 - Vachpi Orlando D'Souza

2:38 AM
Ximpientlim Motiam - Bhag  156  - Irena Sendler - Fr Pratap Naik sj

2:48 AM
Live Like St Paul - A Family Witness - Eps 3

3:14 AM
Our Father - Sadri

3:18 AM
Zaanvai - Talk by Orlando D'Souza

3:47 AM
Song - Let's Care for Our Common Home - Fr Tomas Lobo

3:53 AM
Marian Reflections -2 -  DCC

4:22 AM
53rd Mando Festival - Goychim Lharam, Carmona - Original

4:35 AM
Importance of Spiritual reading - Talk by Maria Ana da Costa

5:00 AM
Literally Goa - Maria Aurora Couto interviewed by Frederick Noronha

5:56 AM
Kuznantlim Zogddim 4 - Bhazleleo Lepo- Meena Goes and Julius Mesquita

6:26 AM
Commitment - Talk by Kenneth D'Sa

6:53 AM
Hymn : Jezu Punorjivont Zala - Monica Fernandes

6:57 AM
Sokalchem Magnnem

7:00 AM
Konkani Mass at Sancoale Church followed by Jivitacho Prokas"

7:45 AM
Morning Prayer  -  Thursday Wk 1 & 3

7:50 AM
Choute Updes - Talk by Adv.F.E.Noronha

8:34 AM
Bhokti Lharam - Bhag  25

8:40 AM
Amchem-xim Rav - A talk by Fr. Aaron Magalhaes

9:15 AM
Song - Jezu - Cassino D'Costa

9:21 AM
DYC - The Way Eps 1

9:35 AM
Pauline Book and Media Centres

9:51 AM
Amchea Bapa…4 - Domnic Rodrigues

10:22 AM
Prayer of Grandparents - English

10:24 AM
What is Spiritual Freshness?  - Talk by Alfwold Silveira

10:51 AM
Health Matters - Tuberculosis - Dr Narayan Iyer

11:16 AM
Intercessions - English

11:30 AM
Mass from Panjim Church

12:15 PM
Angelus - English

12:19 PM
In Conversation with : PI Filomeno L. Costa interviewed  by Prof. Nicholas
D'Souza

12:54 PM
Prayer to St Joseph By Pope Francis (Konkani)

12:56 PM
Magnificat (Konkani)

12:58 PM
Senior Shepherd  - Fr Rufino Coutinho sj  interviewed by Sheena Barnes

1:16 PM
Amchi Bhas Amche Borovpi  - Fr Tomas Lobo interviewed by Daniel F. de Souza

1:46 PM
Prayer while travelling  -  St Joseph Vaz

1:48 PM
Devacha Utor - Hebrevank - Avesvor 2 - Vachpi Orlando D'Souza

1:55 PM
Catholic Quiz - St.Francis Xavier conducted by Mysticka Deniz

2:12 PM
Alcoholics Anonymous - Dr Rajesh Patil

2:39 PM
Youthopia -  Kluivert Menezes  interviewed by Diasa Da Costa

3:00 PM
53rd Mando Festival - Goychim Lharam, Carmona - Original

3:15 PM
Consecrated Life - Daughters of St Paul

3:21 PM
Hymn -Our Lady of Rosary H.S. - Mandrem, Pernem

3:28 PM
Bhurgem Zaunchem Asa Team Avoiancher Bhagevont Zuze Vazache Mozotin Magnnem

3:30 PM
Deivik Kaklutichi Magnneam

3:49 PM
Ximpientlim Motiam - Bhag  156  - Irena Sendler - Fr Pratap Naik sj

3:58 PM
Poem - Holy Land  - Janet Mascarenhas

4:00 PM
Rosary - Luminous Mysteries

4:27 PM
Hymn -Come Back My Love - Fr Seville Antao OFM(Cap)

4:30 PM
Senior Citizens Exercises - 18

4:54 PM
Tell Me a Story  - Eps 37 - Moses Leaves Egypt

5:00 PM
Praise and Worship  led by  Domnic Rodrigues

5:29 PM
Do not worry - Talk by Glenn Nunes

6:09 PM
Aimorechen Magnnem

6:12 PM
Hymn  - Jezu Jezu - Stanley Severes

6:17 PM
Intercessions - Konkani

6:30 PM
Anniversary Mass from Clergy Home

7:20 PM
Song - You Raise Me Up - Darin Fernandes

7:27 PM
Bhajan - Jaisa Baap Taisa Putr - Fr Glen D'Silva sfx

7:30 PM
Saibinnichi Ruzai - Uzvaddache Mister

7:56 PM
Our Father - German

8:00 PM
Pastoral Letter 2021-22 - Talk in English- Fr Aaron  Magalhaes

8:19 PM
Devachi khuxi amchea jivitachi - Nazareth D'Costa

8:36 PM
Abundant Life - Can we pray with Whatsapp? - Prof Nicholas D'Souza

9:00 PM
Adoration led by Godfret Pereira

9:36 PM
Ratchem Magnem

9:46 PM
Devacha Utor - Hebrevank - Avesvor 3 - Vachpi Orlando D'Souza

9:55 PM
Konkani Music Concert - Part 2 - Melbourne 2019

10:35 PM
Called to be Holy - Fr Fernando da Costa

11:38 PM
Kuznantlim Zogddim Eps 6 - Polle  - Meena Goes and Julius Mesquita

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[Goanet] ELECTION FEVER

[John Eric Gomes]

VERY IMPORTANT TO VOTE FOR RIGHT PERSON
Everything you dream or freedom we bitterly fought for will evaporate in no 
time and make you a pauper or refugee in your own land if your leaders sell you 
with impunity, make laws that enslave you, look after themselves and finally 
run away scot free!Therefore please think before believing the false promises  
about unsustainable development,or emotional stirings on religion,caste, 
national security, freebies offered with money siphoned by various means from 
government coffers and your piggy bank, by taxes,cess, high prices etc before 
casting your vote! Do not forget pains starting with demonitization travails, 
and now monetizing  government "brown assets" which will favor crony capitalism 
and eventually paid for by the public having to use those assets now 
privatized. Be willing to give it a thought in your and public interest before 
voting as demanded/fixed by politicians and vested interests. Your country is 
your family,friends, community (common unity). Work to build a community of 
love (common unity) that will make a great happy nation! Government and 
institutions that will care for, protect you, ensure justice equaly for all and 
educate your children to be good citizens. Figuratively, forcing a river to 
suddenly change course with "development" that creates imbalance, pollution, 
climate change, digital and financial disparities, religious and other dis 
harmony and turmoil forcing nature to strike back with devastating consequences 
is what we have been voting for!

[Goanet] Roland, Myopic OPIUM , TEA, And Visit The British Military Museum

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

Roland I read your Message: 8Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 18:35:13 -0400 of
Goa net on the  Subject: [Goanet] The Optics
Message-ID: <2103b295-edfc-402e-88c3-043c5810f...@gmail.com>



Your 10 points almost competed with our resident poet who had some rude
words about PUTIN and Russian Women. While your piece was amusing my
conclusion was that <<
To: goa...@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] The Optics
Message-ID: <2103b295-edfc-402e-88c3-043c5810f...@gmail.com>



No matter what the future strategy, or the compulsions - both foreign
policy and military, or the justifications or the spin, this is what
everybody views in Afghanistan.



1. The world?s most modern and powerful fighting force has been
humiliated by a primitive pyjama-wearing ragtag bunch of ignorants.



2. America is not a nation to be relied on. This is not a new discovery.



3. They rallied allies to fight with them but ignored their pleas to
delay departure to enable safe evacuation. No man is left behind is their
empty slogan.



4. They have idiotic presidents succeeded by even more idiotic
presidents.



5. They raise money recklessly borrowed and even more recklessly spent.
If there is a global financial crash, you know who caused it.



6. They fight wars without a plan i.e. why they are there and what to
do after they win or lose (mostly lose).



7. They have an awful democratic system that is like a block of cheese
so full of holes, even the mice won?t touch it and here?s the catch - they
want to flog it everywhere.

8. If their government system is a cheese their capitalist system is a
powdery Sohan Halwa. They are chock full of  billionaires but so many
people in so many places that have no proper food and shelter.



9. They call themselves the greatest but that may be true only if
greatness comes from being laughed at.



10.  With the end of this war their drugees and mental numbers will
increase leaps and bounds.

Roland. Toronto.



*End of Goanet Digest, Vol 16, Issue 446*

cf*



*Opium and Tea*

The roots of the Opium War (or First China War) lay in a trade dispute
between the British and the Chinese Qing Dynasty. By the start of the 19th
century, the trade in Chinese goods such as tea, silks and porcelain was
extremely lucrative for British merchants. The problem was that the Chinese
would not buy British products in return. They would only sell their goods
in exchange for silver, and as a result large amounts of silver were
leaving Britain.

In order to stop this, the East India Company and other British merchants
began to smuggle Indian opium into China illegally, for which they demanded
payment in silver. This was then used to buy tea and other goods. By 1839,
opium sales to China paid for the entire tea trade.  There were by now
nearly 10 million Chinese. The Chinese efforts to stop the exchange nearly
succeeded In May 1839 they *forced the British Chief Superintendent of
Trade in China*, Charles Elliott, to hand over the stocks of opium at
Canton for destruction. This outraged the British, and was the incident
that sparked conflict.*The Chinese halted the trade and War broke out.
Readers can get even more from the following cite  *



*https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/opium-war-1839-1842#:~:text=Chinese%20resistance=Chinese%20efforts%20to%20end%20the,the%20incident%20that%20sparked%20conflict
.*

Please note that this are British Sources, not Chinese or Tanzanian



*Have a Good day keep away from Drugs, opium included *

Grandolfo

>From Makongo Juu ...drug free but Alcohol Abundant