[Goanet] Corruption in Goa

2021-08-28 Thread George Pinto
There is no celling to the level of corruption in Goa. The govt at all levels - 
village, panchayat, sarpanch, state govt., state govt. departments, etc. 
actively work against the interests of Goans, in collusion with the building 
and mining mafia, many of them non-Goans.

See 
https://www.facebook.com/InGoa24x7/videos/watch-how-tcp-is-being-misusedand-goa-is-being-sold/965282850702074/?__so__=permalink&__rv__=related_videos

With Goa in dire straits and sinking into the grave, compare the fluff about 
fun, feni, fish posted in Goan forums and Goan magazines/publications, and the 
never ending nostalgia of a Goa that once was while Goa is headed off the cliff 
while Goans frolic.

Ethnic and cultural suicide is not a pretty scene.

Goa, RIP

George


[Goanet] The downside of using a second language

2021-08-28 Thread eric pinto
And accompanied pitfalls and hurdles. We see it in errors of composition and 
syntax that jars. Our friends who
publish can employ the the services of their children to edit. Flowery Konknni 
and quaint Portuguese are both 
in the transliterated English used by them.  My father was raised on the two 
languages prevalent in Goa, and was
was a prolific author.  His English handicap was visible, but he did not trust 
us enogh to lend a hand.
     Lastly, the use of vulgarisms and slang as a prop. I think it accounts for 
the recent example that incensed Nasci
and left me in pain. The gentleman clearly needed to convince himself of his 
language prowess : both prose, as well
as poetry.


[Goanet-News] How Goan Peter Nazareth tried to literalise Amin and Elvis Presley (Austin Bukenya, The Nation)

2021-08-28 Thread Goanet Reader
How Goan Peter Nazareth tried to literalise Amin and Elvis Presley

Saturday, August 28, 2021

PHOTO: American Rock and Roll singer and actor, Elvis Presley.
Photo credit: File | Nation Media Group

By Austin Bukenya

What you need to know:

* Nazareth showed that the lyrics of pop songs and other events
  of popular culture could be profitably read and interpreted
  as creative texts.

* Nazareth is best-known in East Africa for his critical
  writings and his novels, especially In a Brown Mantle and
  The General Is Up.

* Peter Nazareth is now an octogenarian.  That puts him in
  the same venerable rika of literary elders as his friend
  and Makerere contemporary, Ngugi wa Thiong'o.

Nazareth, the Goan-Ugandan-American literary maestro, is
best-known for dragging the rock-n-roll idol, Elvis Presley,
into the lecture rooms of American universities.  His
trail-blazing experiment introduced the teaching of the pop
song into (English) literary studies.

Nazareth showed that the lyrics of pop songs and other events
of popular culture could be profitably read and interpreted
as creative texts.  He was probably prophetic of folksinger
Bob Dylan's Nobel Prize for Literature.  We in Makerere knew
or assumed that he had borrowed a leaf from our orature
efforts.

Nazareth is best-known in East Africa for his critical
writings and his novels, especially In a Brown Mantle and The
General Is Up.

I remember attending a function, in 1972, at a friend’s house
just across the road from the Makerere main campus, where we
interacted with Nazareth and listened to readings from 'In a
Brown Mantle'.  The novel, then just published by the East
African Literature Bureau, had attracted a lot of attention
for its striking allusions to Pio Gama Pinto.  One of Kenya's
Independence struggle heroes, he had been mysteriously
murdered at his Westlands Nairobi home in 1965.

Nazareth's narrative, however, was a broad and subtle
exploration of the palpable rise of anti-Asian racism in the
early years of East African independence.  The topic was
handled variously by several other writers of the time, like
Bahadur Tejani in 'Day After Tomorrow', Jagjit Singh in his
angry and outspoken poem, "Portrait of the Asian as an East
African", and Laban Erapu in one of his radio plays.

I, too, wrote in one of my narratives of the time that if the
rabid racism continued unabated, the affected citizens "would
be demonstrating down the streets of Nimela" (a disguised
name for one of the East African capitals).

Idi Amin terror

Well, the racism continued, and in Uganda, it did not even
allow for any protests or demonstrations.  A few days after
our 1972 Makerere function, Idi Amin decreed the expulsion of
all Asians from Uganda within a period of three months.

Indeed, Idi Amin, and his disenfranchisement and deportation
of nearly all of his "brown" (Asian) compatriots, is the
subject matter of The General Is Up, Nazareth's gut-wrenching
second novel.

Nazareth based his novel on his first-hand encounters and
experiences of the frantic activities leading up to the
perilous departure of the expelled Ugandans, most of whom had
never been out of the country.

His narrative captures with unforgettable power the traumatic
ordeal of life under the Idi Amin terror.  I analysed 'The
General Is Up' in detail in my Makerere dissertation on
terror and violence in the Ugandan novel.  I believe I
mentioned to you my intention to publish my study under the
title 'An Idiom of Blood'.

As part of my study, I did an interview with Peter Nazareth.
My questions were put to him live and recorded in Iowa, US,
by my friend and literary colleague, Okiya Omtatah-Okoiti.
Yes, the fiery and famous mtetezi wa umma (people's advocate)
was in the US in 1993, pursuing his literary interests in
residence at the world-renowned International Writing Program
of the University of Iowa.

Peter Nazareth, a long time professor at the University, was
closely associated with the Program, and he was instrumental
in getting promising East African writers, like
Omtatah-Okoiti, to participate in and benefit from it.

Nazareth is, however, a man of many parts.  A chance
encounter, online, with a recent interview in which he
recalls his experiences in Uganda and elsewhere brought back
to me several of my own memories that, somehow, interweave
with his.  I will share with you only one here, about my Goan
Ugandan friends and the identity dilemmas they faced.

Moments of crisis

The Goans' European heritage facilitated their connection to
the British colonisers, while their Catholic Christianity
linked them easily to the African converts.  I had several
Goan close friends among my schoolmates at the elite
church-sponsored high school I attended.  Among these were
the brothers Carasco, Ben and Joseph, who eventually joined
me as colleagues at Makerere in the early 1970s.

They had to leave Uganda amid the Idi Amin fiasco, but Joseph
came back almost immediately after the first "liberation" in
1979. 

[Goanet-News] RIP Fr Benny, the priest-journalist

2021-08-28 Thread Frederick Noronha
Monsignor Benedict Aguiar — popularly known as Fr Benny — and who was best
known in Mumbai’s church circles for being the former Editor of The
Examiner Catholic Newsweekly for over three decades (1961-1994), passed
away on August 26. He was 95.

One of its ablest editors who helmed The Examiner for three decades — he
left an enduring impression on the magazine and its readers, with his
fiercely independent style. Under his guidance, The Examiner became one of
the most well-known and widely-read Catholic periodicals in India.

“His writings reflected an insightful mind on theological matters and
ecclesiastical developments in the Church, but he was best known for his
honest and critical editorials on political developments in India. His
courage to speak the truth brought consequences at times, but Fr Benny’s
journalistic integrity was rock-solid.

In fact, his reputation propelled him to the national stage — he was
President of the ICPA [Indian Catholic Press Association, 1969-78],”
recalls Fr Joshan Rodrigues, managing editor, The Examiner. He had also
authored Rajiv Gandhi — The Fight of the Scion; Indira Gandhi — A Political
Biography and The Making of Mumbai, which focuses on the development of the
Catholic community in the metropolis.

In his eulogy at the funeral service, Advocate Aloysius Aguiar, retired
Justice of the Bombay High Court and Fr Benny’s younger brother, said, “Fr
Benny was a staunch and courageous soldier of Christ, and with the power of
the pen, battled for justice and truth. As a priest-journalist, he preached
the values of conviction and courage through the columns of the Examiner.”

https://www.mid-day.com/mumbai/mumbai-news/article/mumbai-diary-saturday-dossier-23189785

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[Goanet] RIP Fr Benny, the priest-journalist

2021-08-28 Thread Frederick Noronha
Monsignor Benedict Aguiar — popularly known as Fr Benny — and who was best
known in Mumbai’s church circles for being the former Editor of The
Examiner Catholic Newsweekly for over three decades (1961-1994), passed
away on August 26. He was 95.

One of its ablest editors who helmed The Examiner for three decades — he
left an enduring impression on the magazine and its readers, with his
fiercely independent style. Under his guidance, The Examiner became one of
the most well-known and widely-read Catholic periodicals in India.

“His writings reflected an insightful mind on theological matters and
ecclesiastical developments in the Church, but he was best known for his
honest and critical editorials on political developments in India. His
courage to speak the truth brought consequences at times, but Fr Benny’s
journalistic integrity was rock-solid.

In fact, his reputation propelled him to the national stage — he was
President of the ICPA [Indian Catholic Press Association, 1969-78],”
recalls Fr Joshan Rodrigues, managing editor, The Examiner. He had also
authored Rajiv Gandhi — The Fight of the Scion; Indira Gandhi — A Political
Biography and The Making of Mumbai, which focuses on the development of the
Catholic community in the metropolis.

In his eulogy at the funeral service, Advocate Aloysius Aguiar, retired
Justice of the Bombay High Court and Fr Benny’s younger brother, said, “Fr
Benny was a staunch and courageous soldier of Christ, and with the power of
the pen, battled for justice and truth. As a priest-journalist, he preached
the values of conviction and courage through the columns of the Examiner.”

https://www.mid-day.com/mumbai/mumbai-news/article/mumbai-diary-saturday-dossier-23189785

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[Goanet-News] Going Goan on the Goa-Net (Alberto G Gomes) ... looking back on its 27th birthday

2021-08-28 Thread Goanet Reader
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Goanet (founded by Herman Carneiro, now Dr., in 1994, via the
NEU, Boston) celebrates its 27th birthday.  On the occasion,
sharing an article written two decades ago, by Dr Alberto G
Gomes.  Its name was then spelt as Goa-Net.
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SOCIAL ANALYSIS
Issue 45(1) April 2001z

GOING GOAN ON THE GOA-NET: Computer-Mediated Communication and Goan Diaspora

Alberto G. Gomes

Introduction

With the growing access to computer and information
technologies, computer-mediated communication (CMC) has
emerged as an important vehicle of interaction.  Electronic
mail (email) and the world-wide-web have become so common
these days that they are taken for granted particularly in
the developed world and relatively affluent classes of
society.  In light of these developments, an increasingly
number of anthropologists and sociologists have turned their
critical eye to the social and cultural implications of
computer and information technology (see Hakken 1999 for a
review of some of these attempts).  One pressing concern is
whether the definitions and understandings in respect to
concepts such as culture, community and identities are
applicable to computer-mediated interactions.  This has
prompted some to rethink classical approaches to such
concepts (Hakken 1999).  In this paper, I will address some
of these issues in the context of CMC among Goans.  To be
more specific, I will discuss the role of CMC in the
construction and maintenance of cultural identities among
Goans, particularly diasporic Goans.

Goans are typically defined as people who claim a cultural
and social connection with Goa, a small state on the west
coast of India, south of Mumbai (Bombay).  As Priolkar
(1983:270) suggests, the term 'Goan' refers to "anyone,
whatever his present whereabouts, whose forefathers have been
domiciled in Goa at any time in history and who is aware of
this connection and cherishes and values it".

On the 31st of May 1987, Goa was declared as the 25th state
in the Indian Republic, five months after Konkani, the main
language spoken in Goa, was recognised as an official Indian
language.  This was a significant political event for the
Goans in their persistent struggle for recognition as a
distinct and autonomous people in the relatively diverse
Indian cultural mosaic.  It has taken the Goans 26 years to
achieve this status.  In 1961, the Indian government drove
out Goa's colonial masters of 451 years, the Portuguese, who
have left a strong but waning cultural influence on Goans.

About 90 per cent of Goans speak Konkani, which constitutes
the main ethnic marker for Goans but this linguistic unity
gives a false impression of a united community.  Goans are
divided by religion but not as poignantly as the case in
other parts of India.  Hindus form about 60 per cent of the
population while the Catholics constimte 38 per cent and
Muslims 2 per cent.

As one would expect, four and a half centuries of Portuguese
hegemony has had a direct and radical impact on Goa and the
Goans.  During most of their colonial rule, the Portuguese
had suppressed local culture and imposed their culture and
religion on the people.  They implemented the infamous
inquisition during which they persecuted Hindus and Muslims
as part of a treacherous design to forcefully convert the
people to Christianity.  Hindu temples and mosques were
destroyed and replaced with churches, and people were made to
feel scornful of cultural practices viewed as inimical to
Christianity.  People were also discouraged from using their
native language, Konkani, in favour of Portuguese, which was
introduced as the language of official business, commerce,
and education in Goa.  Portuguese rule also engendered a lack
of political liberties, economic underdevelopment, poor
educational facilities, and cultural bigotry not only from
the colonial masters but also from Christian Goans against
their Hindu compatriots in Goa.

Goan Diaspora

Not surprisingly, the poor socio-economic conditions
prevailing in Goa at the time of Portuguese colonialism
served as a push factor for the large-scale emigration of
Goans, particularly at the turn of the century.  This created
a Goan diaspora.  Robert Newman, an American anthropologist,
describes this phenomenon in a rather poetic way:

  Migration and exile for thousands of families and
  more thousands of single men created and sustained
  a nostalgic longing for a beautiful but perhaps
  imaginary Goa that was talked and sung about from
  Kampala to Macau.  Goa was the special golden
  homeland of swaying coconut palms in the moonlight,
  of tasty dishes like sorpotel-sanna and bangra
  recheado, of violins and the mando, whitewashed
  churches, intruz, landainha, and red, fertile soil
  (Newman 1988:3).

To keep in touch with Goa and their Goan-ness, 

[Goanet] Going Goan on the Goa-Net (Alberto G Gomes) ... looking back on its 27th birthday

2021-08-28 Thread Goanet Reader
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Goanet (founded by Herman Carneiro, now Dr., in 1994, via the
NEU, Boston) celebrates its 27th birthday.  On the occasion,
sharing an article written two decades ago, by Dr Alberto G
Gomes.  Its name was then spelt as Goa-Net.
-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.

SOCIAL ANALYSIS
Issue 45(1) April 2001z

GOING GOAN ON THE GOA-NET: Computer-Mediated Communication and Goan Diaspora

Alberto G. Gomes

Introduction

With the growing access to computer and information
technologies, computer-mediated communication (CMC) has
emerged as an important vehicle of interaction.  Electronic
mail (email) and the world-wide-web have become so common
these days that they are taken for granted particularly in
the developed world and relatively affluent classes of
society.  In light of these developments, an increasingly
number of anthropologists and sociologists have turned their
critical eye to the social and cultural implications of
computer and information technology (see Hakken 1999 for a
review of some of these attempts).  One pressing concern is
whether the definitions and understandings in respect to
concepts such as culture, community and identities are
applicable to computer-mediated interactions.  This has
prompted some to rethink classical approaches to such
concepts (Hakken 1999).  In this paper, I will address some
of these issues in the context of CMC among Goans.  To be
more specific, I will discuss the role of CMC in the
construction and maintenance of cultural identities among
Goans, particularly diasporic Goans.

Goans are typically defined as people who claim a cultural
and social connection with Goa, a small state on the west
coast of India, south of Mumbai (Bombay).  As Priolkar
(1983:270) suggests, the term 'Goan' refers to "anyone,
whatever his present whereabouts, whose forefathers have been
domiciled in Goa at any time in history and who is aware of
this connection and cherishes and values it".

On the 31st of May 1987, Goa was declared as the 25th state
in the Indian Republic, five months after Konkani, the main
language spoken in Goa, was recognised as an official Indian
language.  This was a significant political event for the
Goans in their persistent struggle for recognition as a
distinct and autonomous people in the relatively diverse
Indian cultural mosaic.  It has taken the Goans 26 years to
achieve this status.  In 1961, the Indian government drove
out Goa's colonial masters of 451 years, the Portuguese, who
have left a strong but waning cultural influence on Goans.

About 90 per cent of Goans speak Konkani, which constitutes
the main ethnic marker for Goans but this linguistic unity
gives a false impression of a united community.  Goans are
divided by religion but not as poignantly as the case in
other parts of India.  Hindus form about 60 per cent of the
population while the Catholics constimte 38 per cent and
Muslims 2 per cent.

As one would expect, four and a half centuries of Portuguese
hegemony has had a direct and radical impact on Goa and the
Goans.  During most of their colonial rule, the Portuguese
had suppressed local culture and imposed their culture and
religion on the people.  They implemented the infamous
inquisition during which they persecuted Hindus and Muslims
as part of a treacherous design to forcefully convert the
people to Christianity.  Hindu temples and mosques were
destroyed and replaced with churches, and people were made to
feel scornful of cultural practices viewed as inimical to
Christianity.  People were also discouraged from using their
native language, Konkani, in favour of Portuguese, which was
introduced as the language of official business, commerce,
and education in Goa.  Portuguese rule also engendered a lack
of political liberties, economic underdevelopment, poor
educational facilities, and cultural bigotry not only from
the colonial masters but also from Christian Goans against
their Hindu compatriots in Goa.

Goan Diaspora

Not surprisingly, the poor socio-economic conditions
prevailing in Goa at the time of Portuguese colonialism
served as a push factor for the large-scale emigration of
Goans, particularly at the turn of the century.  This created
a Goan diaspora.  Robert Newman, an American anthropologist,
describes this phenomenon in a rather poetic way:

  Migration and exile for thousands of families and
  more thousands of single men created and sustained
  a nostalgic longing for a beautiful but perhaps
  imaginary Goa that was talked and sung about from
  Kampala to Macau.  Goa was the special golden
  homeland of swaying coconut palms in the moonlight,
  of tasty dishes like sorpotel-sanna and bangra
  recheado, of violins and the mando, whitewashed
  churches, intruz, landainha, and red, fertile soil
  (Newman 1988:3).

To keep in touch with Goa and their Goan-ness, 

[Goanet] IDENTIFYING A TRUE GOAN

2021-08-28 Thread Aires Rodrigues
It may be too late in the day but the debate must rage on.



Roots can be established by birth, by ancestry or by domicile. Migration
into Goa is not sufficient to acquire roots if the person does not have
affinity to the Goan culture, language and tradition. On the other hand a
person can be born and resident outside our State and acquire roots by
subscribing to the Goan ethos. Roots can develop in any part of the world,
sink deep, traverse the oceans and terminate in the ancestral villages of
Goa.



Jesus Christ related the parable of the sower who went out to sow. Some
seeds fell by the way side, some fell on stony ground, some fell among
thorns, and they yielded no fruit. But others fell on good ground,
established roots and did yield fruit. So too with the present inhabitants
of  Goa.



There are large numbers of people residing outside the State or abroad,
whose ancestors migrated from Goa but they cannot automatically be classed
as Goans unless they are proud of their Goan heritage and wear the badge
proudly on their sleeves. There are many in this group who class themselves
as being Portuguese or Canadian or British etc. They have the choice to
consider themselves Goan but in their wisdom choose otherwise. And their
decision we must respect.



There is some truth in the well worn saying ‘You can take a Goan out of Goa
but you cannot take Goa out of a Goan’. How does being Goan manifest
itself? Some of the characteristics are diet, language, thought and
customs.



Goan food is unique and any Goan will be proud to partake of it. Ask a
person what his or her preferred foods are and you will sense their ethnic
roots instantly. If they say that they do not like Goan food, can they
truly be Goan?



The language question is more difficult to define precisely in this day and
age. Globalisation and technology has come with a price but any Goan worth
his or her salt should at least have a rudimentary knowledge of the mother
tongue.



Goan thought has been characterised by tolerance and understanding of other
 cultures. Visitors to our shores, whether they be from Mumbai, Manchester
or Moscow have singled out this trait and admire it so much that they want
to be part of us. Who can blame them!



Customs evolve with time and the Goan has learnt to adapt. Catholic, Hindu
and Muslim practices are well blended into our society. We see this in our
clothing, in the syllabus at our schools, with our spontaneous exuberance
in mutual celebration of religious feasts to name a few.



A true Goan will always root for Goa!


Adv. Aires Rodrigues

C/G-2, Shopping Complex

Ribandar Retreat

Ribandar – Goa – 403006

Mobile No: 9822684372

Office Tel  No: (0832) 2444012

Email: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com



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Re: [Goanet] The President of Russia

2021-08-28 Thread Frederick Noronha
Well, for one, Russian women probably think in Russian?
Secondly, the name has a good Wikipedia page [
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin_(surname)] Pleae contribute to making
the Wikipedia even more informative.
Thirdly, the feminine of Putin is Putina (yes, in some languages surnames
come in masculine and feminine versions too... ).
Lastly, this post probably wins hands down for being the most provocative,
response-generating, linguistically incorrect and sexist. In all the
meanings of the word :-) Must be appreciated. FN

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On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 at 00:24, Edwin  wrote:

> Isn’t this downright obscene?
> How are such posts even permitted?
> I certainly don’t want to know what Joao wants to say!
> Regards
> Edwin Fernandes
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:54 PM, Nascy Caldeira 
> wrote:
> >
> > Love it!
> >
> >On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 12:32:07 am AEST, Joao Barros-Pereira <
> joaobarrospere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Russian
> > women
> >
> > think of
> > their
> > President
> >
> > when
> > making love
> >
> > Put in!
> > Put in!
> >
> > what does joao want to say?
> >
>


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Re: [Goanet] The Optics

2021-08-28 Thread E DeSousa
Comment:
In the words of Jen Psaki: "It is easy to throw stones."



Message: 6
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 15:55:06 + (UTC)
From: Nascy Caldeira 
To: "goa...@goanet.org" ,  "Goa's premiere mailing
    list, estb. 1994!" 
Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Optics
Message-ID: <147129772.135769.1630166106...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Cool.? 

    On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 08:35:24 am AEST, Roland Francis 
 wrote:  
 
 No matter what the future strategy, or the compulsions - both foreign policy 
and military, or the justifications or the spin, this is what everybody views 
in Afghanistan.

1. The world?s most modern and powerful fighting force has been humiliated by a 
primitive pyjama-wearing ragtag bunch of ignorants.

2. America is not a nation to be relied on. This is not a new discovery.

3. They rallied allies to fight with them but ignored their pleas to delay 
departure to enable safe evacuation. No man is left behind is their empty 
slogan.

4. They have idiotic presidents succeeded by even more idiotic presidents. 

5. They raise money recklessly borrowed and even more recklessly spent. If 
there is a global financial crash, you know who caused it.

6. They fight wars without a plan i.e. why they are there and what to do after 
they win or lose (mostly lose).

7. They have an awful democratic system that is like a block of cheese so full 
of holes, even the mice won?t touch it and here?s the catch - they want to flog 
it everywhere.

8. If their government system is a cheese their capitalist system is a powdery 
Sohan Halwa. They are chock full of? billionaires but so many people in so many 
places that have no proper food and shelter. 

9. They call themselves the greatest but that may be true only if greatness 
comes from being laughed at.

10. With the end of this war their drugees and mental numbers will increase 
leaps and bounds.

Roland.
Toronto.


Re: [Goanet] The President of Russia

2021-08-28 Thread Edwin
Isn’t this downright obscene?
How are such posts even permitted?
I certainly don’t want to know what Joao wants to say!
Regards
Edwin Fernandes

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:54 PM, Nascy Caldeira  wrote:
> 
> Love it!  
> 
>On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 12:32:07 am AEST, Joao Barros-Pereira 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Russian
> women
> 
> think of
> their
> President
> 
> when
> making love
> 
> Put in!
> Put in!
> 
> what does joao want to say?
> 


[Goanet] ECHOES OF OPPN UNITY TO BE FELT IN GOA

2021-08-28 Thread ELVIDIO MIRANDA
ECHOES OF OPPN UNITYTO BE FELT IN GOA
Elvidio Miranda
The call of a national stir by at least 19 opposition parties from 20th 
September, consisting of Congress, TMC, DMK, NCP, Shiv Sena, JMM, CPI, CPM, 
RJD, JD (S), RLD, NC and PDP amongst others is bound to have reverberations in 
the Assembly polls in Goa to be held tentatively by February, 2022, provided 
all the opposition parties in Goa consisting of the Congress, Aam Aadmi, Goa 
Forward Party, NCP, Goencho Avaaz, Shiv Sena, MGP, Goa Revolutionary Party and 
independents seeking a change in regime in Goa join together to defeat the 
ruling BJP. The crystallization of a joint front in the Centre of Opposition 
parties will definitely lead to a massive show of strength that will have 
extremely bright chances of forming a new government at the Centre. In Goa too, 
all opposition parties have to join hands and fight the Assembly polls under 
one banner. Definitely both at the Centre and in Goa, opposition unity will 
succeed in dislodging BJP-led governments by sheer force of unity.


Re: [Goanet] The President of Russia

2021-08-28 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Love it!  

On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 12:32:07 am AEST, Joao Barros-Pereira 
 wrote:  
 
 Russian
women

think of
their
President

when
making love

Put in!
Put in!

what does joao want to say?
  


[Goanet] Schedule for Sunday 29th August 2021

2021-08-28 Thread CCR TV
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Schedule for Sunday 29th  August 2021

12:00 AM
Rosary - Glorious Mysteries

12:27 AM
Thomas Aquinas teaching on Sloth - Sr Joeyanna D'Souza fsp

12:52 AM
Song - Jezu Tujem Nanv - Ivor D'Cunha

12:58 AM
Hymn - Welcome Holy Spirit - Fr Seville Antao OFM(Cap)

1:00 AM
Mass in Konkani for Saturday

1:45 AM
DYC - The Way Eps 2

2:00 AM
Saibinnichi Ruzai -  Orkache Mister

2:26 AM
Devachem Utor  - Dhormdutancho Itihas - Avesvor 20 - Vachpi Orlando D'Souza

2:40 AM
Discerning God's Will - Talk by Dr Silvia Noronha

3:05 AM
Divinity of Jesus Christ - Talk by Sheela Alvares

3:27 AM
Hymns - Sacred Heart of Jesus HS, Anjuna

3:32 AM
How we got the Bible- Talk by Dr Sarita Nazareth

4:05 AM
Prayer of children for their parents

4:07 AM
Praise and Worship - Agnes Barucha

4:31 AM
Parish of the Week - Aldona 1

5:27 AM
Hymn - Sorginchem Raj By Fr. John A Fernandes

5:31 AM
Entrepreneurship - Carlos and Cyrus Noronha

5:54 AM
Hymn - Memorare - Brian Colaco

5:57 AM
Health Matters - Cancer - Facts and Fiction - Dr Eugene Rent

6:29 AM
Holy Spirit - Talk by Godfrey Pereira

6:53 AM
My Music Videos - Ixtt Mhozo - Fr Mariano SIlveira

6:57 AM
Sokalchem Magnnem  - Beheading of St John the Baptist

7:00 AM
Mass in Konkani from Panjim Church followed by Jivitacho Prokas

8:00 AM
Morning Prayer - Beheading of St John the Baptist

8:05 AM
David and Goliath - Talk by Dr Silvia Noronha

8:40 AM
Bhurgeanchem magnnem aplea avoi-bapaik

8:42 AM
Bhagiancher Niyall I - Br Malvino Alfonso  ocd

9:00 AM
Hymn - I Believe

9:04 AM
Abundant Life - Marriage - Prof Nicholas D'Souza

9:39 AM
Devacha Utor - Hebrevank - Avesvor 5 - Vachpi Orlando D'Souza

9:44 AM
Ekvottanv - Talk by Orlando D'Souza

10:15 AM
The Eucharist - Fr Fernando da Costa

11:17 AM
Intercessions - English

11:30 AM
Mass in English from Jesuit House followed by Daily Flash

12:15 PM
53rd Mando Festival - Vascochim Abolim - Traditional

12:30 PM
53rd Mando Festival - Sant Zuze Vazachim Pavlam - Cortalim - Original

12:50 PM
Bible Project : Stories of the Bible

12:55 PM
Our Father - Marathi

1:00 PM
Spiritual Direction - Savio Mascarenhas

1:26 PM
Ximpientlim Motiam - Bhag  156  - Irena Sendler - Fr Pratap Naik sj

1:37 PM
Walking in the power of the Holy Spirit - Alfwold Silveira

2:03 PM
Prau for Goa - 2

2:07 PM
Talk on Holiness Adv. F.E. Noronha

2:31 PM
Importance of Spiritual reading - Talk by Maria Ana da Costa

2:56 PM
Pauline Book and Media Centres

3:12 PM
Bhurgeanlem Angonn - Bhag 11

3:15 PM
Prayer over Children - St Jospeh Vaz

3:17 PM
Grab the Opportunity - Talk by Sr Saral

3:30 PM
Divine Mercy Chaplet

3:40 PM
Pastoral Letter 2021-22 - Talk in English- Fr Aaron  Magalhaes

3:57 PM
Magnificat (English)

4:00 PM
Rosary - Glorious Mysteries

4:27 PM
Bhurgem-Ball Nasloleancher Bhagevont Zuze Vazache Mozotin Magnnem

4:30 PM
Senior Citizens Exercises - 18

4:54 PM
Tell Me a Story  - Eps 37 - Moses Leaves Egypt

5:00 PM
Praise and Worship - Glenn Nunes 3 followed by Daily Prayer to the Holy
Spirit

5:31 PM
Vakhann'ni - Talk by Gaurish Naik

6:05 PM
Aimorechen Magnnem

6:08 PM
Bhajan - To Amchaa Svami- Fr Glen D'Silva

6:18 PM
Intercessions - Konkani

6:30 PM
Mass in Konkani from Panjim Church followed by Jivitacho Prokas

7:30 PM
Saibinnichi Ruzai -  Orkache Mister

7:56 PM
Prayer for India 4

8:00 PM
Entrepreneurship - Jason Almeida

8:23 PM
Adoration 8 - St Anthony Church, Siolim

8:53 PM
Devacha Utor - Hebrevank - Avesvor 6 - Vachpi Orlando D'Souza

9:00 PM
Mass in Marathi

10:00 PM
Ratchem Magnem

10:17 PM
Gospel Magic - Illusionist Clifford

10:45 PM
Entrepreneur - Suraj George interviewed by Basil D'Cunha

11:10 PM
Senior Shepherds  - Fr Rufino Coutinho sj  interviewed by Sheena Barnes

11:26 PM
Alcoholics Anonymous - Testimony of Roquezinho D'Souza and Sidney D'Souza

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Re: [Goanet] Goa's Coming Election

2021-08-28 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Cool.  

On Thursday, 26 August 2021, 02:24:40 pm AEST, Roland Francis 
 wrote:  
 
 Good one João Barros!

Roland 

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Joao Barros-Pereira 
>  wrote:
> 
> Goans are
> empty vessels
> 
> canoes
> sailing on
> dangerous
> waters
> 
> with room
> only for
> wrongdoers
> 
> others
> not welcome
> 
> next
> election
> will change
> nothing
> 
> except
> the boat
> 
> which
> will be
> under water
> 
> what does joao want to say?
  


Re: [Goanet] The Optics

2021-08-28 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Cool.  

On Wednesday, 25 August 2021, 08:35:24 am AEST, Roland Francis 
 wrote:  
 
 No matter what the future strategy, or the compulsions - both foreign policy 
and military, or the justifications or the spin, this is what everybody views 
in Afghanistan.

1. The world’s most modern and powerful fighting force has been humiliated by a 
primitive pyjama-wearing ragtag bunch of ignorants.

2. America is not a nation to be relied on. This is not a new discovery.

3. They rallied allies to fight with them but ignored their pleas to delay 
departure to enable safe evacuation. No man is left behind is their empty 
slogan.

4. They have idiotic presidents succeeded by even more idiotic presidents. 

5. They raise money recklessly borrowed and even more recklessly spent. If 
there is a global financial crash, you know who caused it.

6. They fight wars without a plan i.e. why they are there and what to do after 
they win or lose (mostly lose).

7. They have an awful democratic system that is like a block of cheese so full 
of holes, even the mice won’t touch it and here’s the catch - they want to flog 
it everywhere.

8. If their government system is a cheese their capitalist system is a powdery 
Sohan Halwa. They are chock full of  billionaires but so many people in so many 
places that have no proper food and shelter. 

9. They call themselves the greatest but that may be true only if greatness 
comes from being laughed at.

10. With the end of this war their drugees and mental numbers will increase 
leaps and bounds.

Roland.
Toronto.

  


[Goanet-News] The Portuguese colonial band

2021-08-28 Thread Frederick Noronha
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Re: [Goanet] Ku Klux Klan - The secret history of the KKK (in two parts) | DW Documentary

2021-08-28 Thread Mervyn Lobo
 On Friday, August 27, 2021, 03:21:54 p.m. CDT, Cecil Pinto 
 wrote:
 Dear Mervyn,

How many times do I have to remind you that GoaNet is Rico's personal turf
and fan club. You and me exist here at his discretion and he decides who
can post what.

Now recently he has discovered Whatsapp Groups and is running them
similarly and disastrously by just kicking out anyone who opposes him.

--
Cecil,
About a year ago, I mentioned to a Goanetter whom I enjoy reading that I had 
not seen any posts from him on Goanet recently. His answer blew me away. The 
person - a generation older than me with the wisdom to prove it  -  said that 
the last two posts he sent disappeared into thin air so he decided to stop 
posting. 


A month ago, I sent in information about an award that a Goan and former 
Goanetter received here in the USA. Guess what? The message disappeared. So I 
sent the message again. Well, guess what? Yes, the message disappeared again!  
I get fascinated every time I open a post on Goanet and the entire post is a 
link taking you elsewhere. There is no preamble, no hint of what the subject 
matter is  - but just a link. No one in his right mind is going to click on 
such a link but these are the majority of the posts on this forum now. The 
forum has, essentially, been reduced to a directory to take you elsewhere and 
mostly to things unrelated to Goa or Goans. 

It is only a supremely righteous man, one who feels that there is no one but 
himself capable of running the group s/he controls who will think of retaining  
power forever. Unfortunately, as the years morph into decades, the belief gets 
stronger ;-) 

Mervyn
 





 
  


[Goanet] Non Verbal Communication

2021-08-28 Thread Joao Barros-Pereira
i was
driving
my car

someone
looked like
he wanted
to overtake
me

i waved
to go ahead

he honked
once

i asked
my friend
why?

he
wanted
to say

thank you
he said

i told him
he was wrong

the driver
said

thanks

had he
honked twice

that would
have been

thank you

and
three times?

no idea!
said my friend

thank you again

and
four times?

that
would be

thank you very much!

i said
confidently

what does joao want to say?


Re: [Goanet] Afghanistan - Land of endless war | DW Documentary (Frederick Noronha)

2021-08-28 Thread patrice riemens
Aloha,

https://youtu.be/L7e6tejlTNw

A real Must See!

One can pick up this one as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHPrU7R8L2Y

Afghanistan before the Russian invasion (1979) Good explainer, also lots of 
music!

Ciaoui, p+2D!