Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] And the prize winners are ... Fundacao Oriente short story competition 2017
Fred 😊I'm glad your are encouraging the young followers of your writing tribe to become escrivaos like you. Keep up the good work. This is the best part and climax of your splendid journalistic career. Regards Arnold Noronha Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> From: Goanet-News on behalf of Frederick Noronha Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:14 PM To: Goanet Subject: [Goanet-News] And the prize winners are ... Fundacao Oriente short story competition 2017 Congratulations to all! GOAN SHORT STORY COMPETITION 2017 WINNERS 1 ST PRIZE - KAHAT KABIRA (Marathi) by Vithal L. Gawas The Alban Couto Prize (Rs 20,000) 2 ND PRIZE - MURDER? (English) by Rajyashree Dutt The Semana da Cultura Prize (Rs 15,000) Indo-Portuguesa Prize 3 RD PRIZE - DHIRIO (English) by Mayabhushan Nagvenkar The Fundação Oriente Prize (Rs 10,000) SPECIAL JURY PRIZE - PAAVLLI (Konkani) by Sushmita Dessai STORIES SELECTED FOR THE ANTHOLOGY 1. Kahat Kabira (Marathi) by Vithal L. Gawas 2. Murder? (English) by Rajyashree Dutt 3. Dhirio (English) by Mayabhushan Nagvenkar 4. Paavlli (Konkani) by Sushmita Dessai 5. The Thief Who Left Behind His Things (English) by Bina Nayak 6. The Mango Tree ( English) by Anusha VR 7. Kashmir to Goa – A Love Story (English) by Sunil Kumar Damodaran 8. Mathilda’s Bubbles (English) by Anita Pinto 9. Why Rita Doesn’t Eat Sausages Anymore (English) by Clara A. Rodrigues 10. Wings of Vertigo (English) by Aaron S. Rodrigues 11. Life’s Bumpy Ride (English) by Cherie Naroo 12. All You Need Is Love … (English) by Gouthami 13. Maria’s Boutique (English) by Brian Mendonça 14. Pavlov’s Daughter (English) by Noel Mark Sequeira 15. Margie Pereira Learns How To Swim (English) by Francesca Cotta 16. In A World Of What Ifs (English) by Jeanette Barbosa Noronha 17. The Devil Inside Me Smiled (English) by Preethy Sunil 18. Bavddo (Konkani) by Kiran Mahambre 19. Aayi … Birthday Kenna? (Konkani) by Naresh Chandrakant Naik 20. Gantten Sot Kelem (Konkani) by Suvarna Mahesh Bandekar 21. Sasay (Konkani) by Geeta Narayan Naik 22. Rakhandar – Part No.2, Survey No.25 (Marathi) by Narayan Mahale 23. O Migrante (Portuguese) by Maria do Céu Barreto 24. Not Your Time To Go Girl! (English) by Dinesh Patel 25. Mary Aylae Na (Konkani) by Shantan Sukhtankar [Announced a few hours back...] -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ Frederick Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا _/ +91-9822122436 (SMS if you can't get through) _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ <https://mailtrack.io/> Sent with Mailtrack <https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mailtrack-for-gmail-inbox/ndnaehgpjlnokgebbaldlmgkapkpjkkb?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=signature&utm_campaign=signaturevirality>
[Goanet] The President's benign reminder to Goa to heed Destiny's Call
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Citing the 1 Jun post from From: "r.barreto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on EVALUATING GLOBAL GOANS CONVENTION .HELD IN PANAJI ? GOA 3rd to 5th January 2007 ?TOASTMASTER STYLE? By John Mascarenhas ? DTM* In laudatory felicitations to the GLOBAL GOANS CONVENTION, Dr A P J Abdul Kalam ? President of India, declared: ?Our nation has a rich cultural heritage with vibrancy. The convention could highlight the potential of Goa in tourism, biodiversity and its history and culture?. On this occasion, I extend my greetings and felicitations to the participants and the organisers and wish the Convention all success?. Dear Goanetters: Quoting the aforesaid epistle from Indias erudite President, as Goas paramount leader, it could be significantly used as Goas credo to chart its future growth and development. Reasonably, it could be interpreted as the Indian Republics official position vis-à-vis our Konkan Homeland in providing guidelines for the path to be taken in fulfilling Goas Destiny. Remarkably noteworthy, is the absence of any mention of industrial development and commercial enterprise in our State. In particular, prominently omitted is any mention of exploiting mineral wealth, creating SEZs and crafting mega enterprises consequently despoiling this beautiful idyllic Land by conversion into a concrete and steel jungles at the expense of our Natural flora and fauna, landscape and Historical heritage. Au contraire, President Kalams statement seems to strongly imply the imperative need to zealously preserve Goas heritage and culture for posterity. In fact the Presidents gracious blessings appear to unmistakably envisage Goa as purely a Land of Leisure and Goodwill welcoming all the citizens of the World in the spirit of Peace, Harmony and Merriment to enjoy its Natural Beauty and Rich Unique Culture and History. Does the President of Indias Messianic Manifesto mean anything to the Leaders and Administrators and general public of Goa? Furthermore, can the esteemed Head of States possibly Idealistic Reverie, reflected in his vision for Goa, inspire a Righteous Revolution to bring our beloved land someday to an Utopian State? The people of Goa can best answer these critical questions, by at least making a modest beginning in the right direction when they go to the polls this time. Regards Arnold _ Play games, earn tickets, get cool prizes. Play nowit's FREE! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink1 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Restricting Sale of Liquor and Dry Days in GOA
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on May 28 wrote: Restricting Sale of Liquor and Dry Days in GOA You may be aware that in Goa there is a restriction on serving or sale of liquor items. NO LIQUOR TO BE SOLD OR SERVED AFTER 10 PM. This restriction is in place ever since the Assembly election dates were officially declared from early May. It may also be reminded there were 4 complete DRY DAYS on 4, 5, 6 & 7 of May 2007 on account Panchayat elections. Again there are about 7 complete DRY DAYS coming up soon starting from 31st May to 6th June due to the Assembly election to be held on 2nd June 2007. Last week, they imposed 'naka bandi' on import of any liquor into the state. Several trucks with hundreds of beer cartons are stopped at the Goa Border areas and will be released only after 6th June. So, what's happening in Goa? Who rules Goa? Why so many restrictions? Why so many Dry Days ? Who made these decisions and what grounds? Dear Joe: In addressing the alarming restrictions on the sale of liquor during the elections, the gravitas of the issue eloquently raised by you has much larger implications as a threat to the very fundamental freedoms of Goas residents. By its very basic ethos, Goa is the domain of the freewheeling, the feasting and the fun-loving. Under Goas secular political Constitution, the inhabitants are guaranteed unalienable rights to indulge in various activities including drinking focusing on making merry as long as they act properly within the existing Laws of the Land. Echoing your word to the wise, the Government is duty -bound to protect and not interfere with the sacred rights of the people which include the right to potable pleasures. Of course excesses committed should be sternly discouraged and condignly punished . But the unpleasantness of unnecessary restrictions on our good citizens social pastimes and activities are directly contrary to any sound democratic principles and should be fought tooth and nail. Most commendably, you have undertaken this crusade to uphold one of our most important freedoms ..the arm-bending Bacchanal Freedom. It reflects your lifelong mission to stand up for your people when their precious rights are trampled upon . The irresistibly enticing charm of Goas idyllic, bright and Eden-like principality Thrives on the bedrock of its entertainment, polite Arts and cordial hospitality Which lends itself freely, soulfully and gushingly to serenity, amity and conviviality Giving the lovely Land its openness, innocence, bucolic atmosphere and vitality Not to be marred by unwarranted Prohibition through stifling Restrictions brutality Denying ready access to fathom the depths of the heart of our jolly Big Boss Is downright unsporting, dog-in-the-manger like and unconstitutionally gross Our noble convivial traditions into the rotting garbage heap it does cruelly toss Around the peoples necks making Governments Administration an albatross Thus putting Goas finest customs of drinking and good cheer into dead loss The queer unacceptable pretext for this Government order is the coming election When the voters are going to exercise their franchise to make legislative selections Confused enough the electorate is already with last minute party cross defections Goans are thoroughly disgusted with the Governments unreasonable objection To their seeking comfort and inspiration from liquor instead of teetotaler protection So what does the Government hope to achieve by declaring certain days dry? For Liberty, Justice, Bonhomie and fair Government, do they hear the Goans cry? To grant the voters and Goas guests Freedom, who does the politicians hands tie? To come out in favour of keeping the people sated and smiling why are they so shy? Beset by such abject bureaucratic ineptitude and whim, can we let Democracy die? Keep up the good work, Senhor. Cheers Arnold _ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] The role of Money in the Elections.
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- On 31 May 2007 From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Vote = POIXE POIXE POIXE - Money Money Money - PAISA PAISA PAISA Vote = POIXE POIXE POIXE - Money Money Money - PAISA PAISA PAISA office. Rich politician would do anything to win. For the most rich politicians contesting election over and over again is like a game. contesting for power contesting for Minister's Chair contesting for CM's chair contesting for name & fame Contesting for more money Rich man can do anything.. Reminds me of late 70s ABBA's song MONEY MONEY MONEY Must be funny In the rich man's world Money, money, money Always sunny In the rich man's world Aha-ahaaa All the things I could do If I had a little money It's a rich man's world Dear Joe: The pithy hard-hitting mantra unleashed in your May 31 post is a bitter sweet mélange of superb vernacular and patois that gives much food for thought. Reinforced by cute verse, your vitriolic litany sends a powerful message to Goas electorate at this awkward but critical time of the upcoming elections. The embarrassment caused by your concise revelations could work like upturning a big rock to expose and send a lot of hidden ugly creatures scurrying away from the sunlight and fresh air of Truth and Reform. It looks doubtful youre going to win any popularity contest among politicians with your tirade against their activities and objectives .but it will encourage the voters to think carefully before casting their votes. Yes, its difficult to refute your cynical observation that Money is the root of all Evil, especially when you put it so bluntly and honestly in your adroit, charming and piquant style. Senhor, youve done it again. Although rare, as long as there are Knights in Shining Armour, like you as sentinels to vigilantly and selflessly guard Goas real interests and clean its Augean stables, our Konkan Motherland will survive and flourish. Viva Goa !!! Cheers Arnold _ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? Youll love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Can Goa go Greek for posterity?
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- On 29 May 2007 Selma Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Re: [Goanet] Is Goa heading the way of the Ojibwe Indian? Dear, cher Arnold, Being a Goan from the heart of Salcete, I cling to my identity as a Goan Catholic and I can be as jingoistic as Churchill if need be. However, the older I grow and the more I travel, I realise how futile it is to cling to our narrowly defined identities because time is the great assimilator. If we refer to the Greek civilisation, a lesser known fact about it is, there was no Greece as we know of it today. There were the Mycenaeans, the Dorians, the Minoans, the Athenians, to name a few and it took centuries of warfare to create Greece. And yet, today these ancient principalities are seamlessly assimilated. Much of what you are proposing bears merit on economic grounds but will do little to preserve us culturally. Today, culture is not defined by clansmanship, geography or religion. It's defined by economics and access to information and education. There is a world culture developing and my sincere hope is one day we will define ourselves as citizens of the world. Goa will be a pleasant footnote in the annals of history, but it will assimilate seamlessly into the folds of the Indian subcontinent. Take care, selma Sweet Shastikar Selma: With regard to the accepted concept of culture, your astute and indulgent response is on point. Yes indeed culture is not an immutable quality. Au contraire its an evolving human refinement dictating a code of behavior that is constantly subject to metamorphosis because of factors such as the dynamics of new discoveries, political and environmental changes, scientific advancements and ideological developments. That moving quality of metastasis gives culture its regal status in the Pantheon of Diet, Etiquette, Law and order, Value systems and Aesthetics. The catharsis of new thinking and invention progressively acculturates our civilizations to improve cultures. : The old order changes giving way to the new Like Natures behaviour patterns, culture tends to mutate.inexorably. Hence, I agree wholeheartedly that following the trends of History, eventually all civilizations become footnotes to the chronology of human events and as a result their concomitant cultures become extinct or modified far beyond their original recognizable identities. Ergo, there is no dispute about your contention that Goas extant culture will suffer evanescence with the passage of time and changing circumstances. I also have congruency with the aspects of your notion that in this day and age, governed essentially by economics, culture has no boundaries insofar as religion or geography goes.. But I believe clansmanship and geographical origins do still provide cohesive bonds of social polarization and identity. . I aver those among those of us who choose to be called Goan but barely know any Konkani words or customs still instinctively retain some of our unique Goan heritage in habits or at least some of our Goan traits like diets and other discernible characteristics. Besides, we instinctively tend to gravitate together in social gatherings, communications and private settings because were comfortable with one another despite our usual bickerings and social infighting, Our diatribes may not be on par with the sophistication of the Socratic Dialogues but we Goans can certainly give the Greeks a run for their money. For a classical example, our very Cyberspace Goanet epitomizes this phenomena. Your pertinent mention of Greek city states interrelationships and their role in shaping the History of the Civilized World has merit in explaining political phenomena and the incongruities of socio/political units within one of the most advanced .civilized systems of its Era. However, lets not forget, Greeks, despite their political differences, had a common culture. Their internecine warfare did not unite them but eventually their common enemy, the Persians did. The fabric of Goas ethos shares two common characteristics with Greece; it has a single homogenous culture and a common language too, if you accept Konkan as our mother tongue. Im no scholar of things Greek; in fact much of Hellenic history is Greek to me.(no pun intended). Youre absolutely right in citing Greek culture as a valid example to conceptually make your case about the eventual obsolescence of civilizations and related cultures. But original Greek traditions and philosophy still solidly remain the underpinnings of modern civilization today. Thats the role I envisage for our Goan traditions and native intelligence. Our cuisine and h
[Goanet] Is Goa heading the way of the Ojibwe Indian?
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- On 28 May 2007, Selma Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Re: [Goanet] Tales from the Ojibwe Indian Ojibwe Indians, like most native American tribes, live on reservations. Reservations that the US federal government set up. These proud warriors of the past have refused to assimilate with mainstream America. They march to the beat of their own pow-wow drums. The Ojibwe Indians are a dying nation. Sadly their dancing reminded me of our weddings where older men and women strut to the tangos and the waltzes of their time, while a younger generation limps along trying to find their own ground. Yes, Goans are a dying race. There is no doubt about that but it's not because so many sought jobs in the Gulf or emigrated to Canada or because we were run rampant by other cultures. Ultimately it's because everything living that doesn't have sustenance dies and is replaced by something else. That's just the way it is. On a sombre note, Selma Dear Selma: The pathos rendered in your laconic May 28 post is thought-provoking in its ominous tone. Your stirring account of the plight of the Ojibwe tribe is appealing. Drawing a sympathetic parallel, your doomsayer comparison of the fates of the Ojibwe Indians and Goans is apparently daunting and discouraging. True there are grounds for credibility in the skepticism of your Cassandra like prediction. But, while respecting your worthy opinions and assessments, being an incurable optimist, I shall not give your dire predictions an outright cachet. When discussing Goans permanently residing outside Goa, it should be recognized the vicissitudes of Humankinds History inevitably make a gradual morphing to new social order through miscegenation and cultural hybridization or blending . The overarching fact is Goans are gregarious by nature, driven primarily by economics and demographical pressures and cannot live in Goan ghettos outside the Motherland. Time and again our learned friend Mario makes an excellent point here. But with promotion and retention of certain facets of our culture distinctly within the Worlds mosaic of cultures, we can continue to keep the Goan generic profile extant for posterity. Our Goan institutions and expatriate ambassadors of the Arts, Commerce and various sciences in various parts of the West, Australia, Africa are doing yeoman service to Goas cause, carrying its proud banner and making indelible footprints with outstanding contributions outside Goa. As long as Goans abroad continue to be proud to call themselves Goans and observe and introduce our customs where practical with our legendary traditions of genteelness and hospitality, there is little to fear. Citing precedent, other ethnical expatriates have maintained their identities for hundreds of years. Take for instance the Chinese, Italians, Polish, Irish and Spanish. . However on the home front, Goans can do a lot more about keeping up our proud heritage. As you know, the cornerstones of Goan identity in perpetuity depend entirely . on the arduous preservation of linguistics, cuisine, the polite sciences, customs and etiquette, traditional dress and old monuments, edifices and other landmarks. Not to be ignored is protection of Goas natural landscape and littoral aspects of our geography, especially the flora and fauna and the concomitant characteristics of the soil and sea. This also means that one of the principal ways to stem the tide of dilution of our culture is to prevent further inroads into Goa of external influences be they from other parts of India or abroad. Ownership of land should be absolutely restricted to people of Goan origin. The so called development of Goas resources and construction activity should be regulated vigorously. Goan economic activity should concentrated on Tourism, Education and Culturally-related products and services. Industrial activities that are not environmentally friendly and take away from the natural scenery and add to population pressures should be discouraged, Most of all, residency and voter registration should be strictly controlled. A special Non-Goan residency tax imposed on all those who are not of Goan ancestry could be an excellent revenue earner and a sound method to control the influx and permanent presence of non- Goans. Of course, a strong enforcement infrastructure is a sine qua non to implement residency laws. The rub lies in defining who is a true Goan from the point of view of ancestry and established domicile. Lets take a page from the existing enclaves of the world like Hong Kong, Monaco, Lichtenstein to learn how we can do better. But that means forgoing our petty
[Goanet] The folly of frog filleting
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- On Fri, 25 May "Kevin Saldanha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Re: [Goanet] Mark Twain's Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras Hi Arnold, The crux is not so much the gastronomic delights of the amphibian appendages as it is the wanton cruelty of the dispatch methods by starvation due to disambulation (is that a legitimate big enough word ;-?) .(ellipsis).. This method of rendering food animals unconscious has now fallen out of favour due to concerns about BSE but unfortunately still persists in high school and university biology labs much to the apprehension of animal rights activists. http://www.frogsite.org/Anti_Pithing.html However, they also are of the opinion that ANY vertebrate (and many invertebrates with two neurons to synapse) have the capacity to perceive discomfort enough to shy away from it. That, and the inherent desire to survive, make fishing a despicable sport. (I wonder what joy sport anglers get out of outwitting a brain many times smaller than theirs, anyway.) Dear Kevin: Your learned and profound May 25 comments are appreciated. Yes, I admire your humane attitude towards creatures other than man. As a biologist/doctor you have your heart in the right place. The inhumane methods used to kill animals by those of us who claim to be the image and likeness of God make us guilty of blasphemy of sorts. Mind-boggling is the dilemma of killing and maiming animals for food and research as required for Mankinds survival and at the same time making sure we dont subject other species to unnecessary pain and suffering. Yes, from Humankinds point of view, all creatures inhabiting this Planet are part of Creation or Evolution(as you will) and thus entitled to some consideration unless theyre a direct threat to our existence. Im an occasional recreational fisherman who is guilty of this cruelty. Youre absolutely right about the sadism inherent in this angling sport. Unfortunately, we dont think of the ugly aspect of the sport as we go to challenge the creatures of the waters for an outing and pastime in the bosom of Nature. The true anglers real objective is catching fresh air and sunshine with the charm of solitude and maybe some good company of fellow anglers. As you have scientifically revealed, its amazing how many forms of life come from the same genetic tree. Metaphorically, Man is the 800 lb gorilla dominating practically all other forms of multi-cellular animals and vegetation. As you scientists tell us, we are indisputably on top of the food chain and masters the ecological domain of Nature on this planet. Its so ironic and poetic justice too that despite all our strength and brains we live in dread of those ephemeral microscopic organisms such as microbes and viruses because Nature has given them the power to destroy us so called Masters of the Planet Earth. It always fascinating to get erudites like you and Dr Helekar to express authoritative opinions on matters of heredity and other biological facts. Pardon me if it appears Im trying to infringe on your ambit. I have deep respect for persona of your genre in scientific matters wherein my knowledge and understanding is very limited. Regards Arnold _ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Mark Twain's Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County comes to Goa
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- On Wed, 23 May 2007 "Clinton Vaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Subject: ] [ Save the Frogs! Do your part as a volunteer Hello Goanetters, ..(ellipsis).. For centuries, at this time of the year in Goa, various species of frogs come out of hibernation to celebrate the arrival of the monsoons and play their part in the transformation of dry fields into nature's orchestra of croaks, cricket creaking, thunder and of course, the sound of rain. Its unfortunate that misinformed and misguided locals hunt these frogs for meal that not out of necessity, but because its considered as an exotic delicacy. Frogs are often blinded by torches, clubbed, thrown into sacks by the hundreds and sold to unethical restaurateurs that simply skin and cut of their legs while they are alive and leave them to die a slow and painful death.. Clinton.. Dear Clinton: Thanks for drawing our Goanet readerships attention to the shameless slaughter of our jumping friends to slake the voracious appetites of idiosyncratic and greedy gastronomes. Apart from the unbridled savagery towards these wet seasons sons of the soil, its just not cricket (no pun intended to the chirping katydids cousins) to sabotage Natures monsoon symphony of the croaking creatures. After all, these amplifying amphibians joyfully provide that indispensable rich base key to the green fields vibrant music welcoming the annual rains. It is contended the frog hunters are nothing but toady lackeys of the unscrupulous restaurant industry. The most alarming prospect is that perchance the delicacy of frog legs gormandizing could catch on to the hearty Goan palate. This eating metastasis may threaten the traditional supremacy of our Goan flesh-derived culinary masterpieces at our fine epicurean tables. This could spawn a tumultuous culinary revolution prompting a major overhaul of our recipe books. Deprived of their principal staple, Mans intrusion into the normal reptilian diet would also cause snakes the shuddering and slithering shakes. It could also give weight to what was long suspected by certain maverick biologists about Mans serpentine tendencies. Reinforced by the evidence of Mans habitual frog ingestion, imaginative Darwinians may even fine tune the Theory of Evolution. Thus inferring from characteristics such as his/her frog diet and slimy behaviour, it may be concluded Humankind descended from the Snake, rather than the Monkey. Thank Heavens for the brave frog flirting volunteers sponsored by WildGoa who probably nonviolently risk life and limb and the sophisticated caterers goodwill to stop this putative sinful carnage of frogs. . Most heartening however, we are told their betes-noirs, the poachers, are being gradually influenced by gentle persuasion. to give up their cruel profit oriented blood sport. Finding an alternate avocation however could present a big problem. Considering the serious canine menace, dog catching could afford a thrilling sport and pastime. This may stop our beloved Goa from going to the dogs literally. Now its sincerely hoped these valiant well-meaning bleeding hearts dont get overenthusiastic thereby extending their campaign to agitating against the slaughter of pigs too. Offending the taste buds and selective carnivorous appetites of our meat- hungry Goan citizens will incur their irreconcilable wrath. All patriotic Goans can be expected to say Mai Tzcho Go !!! How dare any true Goan by unconscionably preventing pig slaughter, deprive the average manna and irmao of delectable porcine products such as sorpatel, vindaloo and Goa sausages. Alas, such shenanigans. could easily create tremendous public outrage that these overtime paddy field pacifists will live to regret. Well, all you lovable frogophiles ( my preposterous coinage), tree huggers, pelt protectors and Nature lovers in general , Peace be with you. But if you want to join in a real meat eating feast without prejudice or predilection, bring your own sauce and booze. Cheers Arnold _ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? Youll love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
[Goanet] What is Wrong? - A critique
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- On 19 May 2007 From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] What is wrong (Was: Creationism versus Evolution) What is wrong with stating facts that contradict someone's beliefs? What is wrong with attempting to convince someone that he/she is mistaken? What is wrong with informing other readers that what they read on Goanet is not true? What is wrong with wanting to find out if our beliefs are right or wrong? What is wrong with having intellectual curiosity? What is wrong with trying to educate ourselves? Cheers, Santosh --- "Frederick \"FN\" Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What's wrong if Orlando believes in what he wants to? Why should we try to convince him otherwise? I hope his beliefs make him a better person... that's all that matters. I wouldn't want anyone judging the rightness (or wrongness) of my own beliefs... as long as it doesn't harm them in any way. FN Dear Goanetters: Centrifugal ideological forces may have caused the current hot debates theme on The Origin of our Species to be sidelined. . Apparently two mavens of our Goanet realm are engaged in vibrant repartee which, while thought-provoking, is a distracting spinoff from the main cause celebre. i.e. Darwinism vs Creationism. Like a going nowhere whirlpool, this tempest in a teacup diverts from the original threads mainstream, affecting its smooth flow.. Generally speaking, in pursuing a thread, there is something to be said for the discipline of staying within certain parameters. This rule may minimize obfuscation of the main issues before they get lost in the shuffle and consequently suffer the waning interest of our readers. . . In this exchange, the pivotal confrontational poser exclaims: what is wrong? With quizzically challenging taunts sounding much like a lyrical mantra in song Exposing two countervailing views one could represent by divergent prongs That in Goanets lively portals could be drawn out prolix, contentious and long Using adroit strategies like matching tiles played in the alien game of Mah Jong Philosophically the two sides posture with the blustering ballyhoo of King Kong or with moves strutting around each other like menacing dancers clad in sarong While at each others egos, facts, ideas and doctrines, they go hammer and tong Its been consolingly proposed they could be better off playing hectic ping pong But in the context of Darwin vs Creation Dogma does this spat really belong ? Cheers Arnold _ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_MAY07 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Darwin's antithetical dilemma
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- On 18 May 2007 From: Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Subject: Re: [Goanet] Creationism versus Evolution vs Angels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no proof there Man has evolved from primates, also there is no proof of any species evolving into another over a period of time. However adaption ..(ellipsis) Orlando, I am not too sure if man has evolved from primates or if that is the direction man is going. However, I am quite convinced that angels have morphed from fairies. Fairies being male angels . . . (ellipsis) Hello Mervyn and Orlando: While you learned gentlemen and a host of other illustrious Goanetters (much better informed than I ) are obsessed with rattling one anothers Darwinian cages, may I join this charismatic chorus? In the light of Homo Sapiens astoundingly irrational, self-destructive and immoral behaviour consistently in the framework of Nature, the moot question for those brilliant minds who subscribe to Darwins Theory of Evolution is : Did Man evolve from the Monkey or did the Monkey descend from Man? (With sincere apologies to the simians for the invidious linkage) Cheers Arnold _ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? Youll love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] FW: NAKA MHAKA OSLO JOB!!!
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Dear Goanetters: The underpinnings of our linguistic Tower of Babel reflect the kaleidoscope of Goa's enchanting diversity. As you know, an intriguing, yet delightfful hybrid patois has evolved through our Goan History's vicissitudes. The essence of its charm is the reconciling detente, nay harmony, this lingua franca has cultivated among various subethnic and social groups in our beloved Goa. This unique endemic socially and culturally accepted communications phenomenon is dramatized with hearty drollery in the quaint anecdote (source unknown) related below : NAKA MHAKA OSLO JOB!!! And then there was our good ole Goan Gabru who met his friend Santan at the tinto one evening.. "Arre, Gabru, Boro morre! Where u men, no sign so long... You were trying for job no, at the Taj. What happened?" "Arre, Santan... Kitem Sangonk... I no want such job!" "Kiteak re? Kith zallem?"said Santan. "I am good swimmer. I would be fantastic lifeguard for sure. I went for interview at the Taj. Thinga ek Baill ani ek Dadhlo.. Borim english mattalim.. I good speaking english you know. They ask me 'Who I' I say - I am Gabriel Joao Leitao from Fortavaddo Nerul. I want to be lifeguard. They say show your feet.. I showed my feet. Then mhaka sangttam show me your knees... I am thinking why for they want to see my Dhomppram but anyways I showing them..." "Then what?" said Santan. "Then, Sheeh Saiba, Loz dissta sangonk! That lady she tell me 'Show me your testimonials'. Testi.. Anka testi mhuntath thi kiteac pollounc zai ? I no showing nobody my testi nothing!!! Hanv Dhaon ghara ailo!!! NAKA MHAKA OSLO JOB!!!" Cheers Arnold _ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Nostalgic for good old Goa
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- On 17 May, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Subject: [Goanet] Welcome to Miramar Beach (with Pics and Video) Dear Joe: Your latest post on Miramar is a pure delight. I thoroughly enjoyed the May 17 contribution. Yes, you've eloquently made your point that in Goa's littoral beaches lie the quintessence of the cultural, economic, entertaining and social wealth of our beloved land. What better way to emphasize that remarkable phenomenon than with beautiful pieces like yours. The sentimental deja-vu recalling sweet child memories of your dear mother pulled powerfully at my heartstrings. At Goanet nobody represents the mind and heart of Goa better than you . A lot of fine writers delve into the grime of politics, quagmire of commercialism and "haute monde" values, but you focus on its natural pristine beauty and the regular folk which is what the real Goa is essentially about. You're among the brightest stars in our Goanet firmament when it comes to revealing Goa intimately, accurately, and philosophically and, more importantly, zealously defending its heritage, assets, strengths and integrity. Consistently espousing Goa's cause, you've striven to inveigle Goans and the rest of the World to love, respect and enjoy our Motherland. You're a true son of Goa's sacred soil. Keep up the good work, Senhor. Regards Arnold _ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Restricting Sale of Liquor in North Goa during elections
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- Subject : [Goanet-news] Goa news for May 17, 2007 *** Restrictions imposed on sale of liquor in Goa till June 7 (New Kerala) Panaji, May 16: Sale of liquor was today restricted in North Goa district in view of the June 2 assembly elections in the state. Dear Goanetters: Disconcerting to the North Goan electorate is the unfortunate official ban on the distribution of alcohol during the upcoming elections. . Traditionally having at least a couple of jolly good jolts before making important decisions is the birthright of every honest (and even dishonest) Goan citizen. How can any sensible person ever put on his/her thinking cap before ingesting that magical potion that brings cheerfulness, good judgment, and legitimate discernment into play?. Besides, when confronted with choices between two or more poor alternatives, the magnanimity conjured by booze can breed electoral tolerance, a sense of sporting fatalism and a feeling of laissez-faire humour. Most importantly, the euphoria of inebriation tends to invoke a strong call to duty to exercise the right to vote. . In a word, such cruel proscription creating an unhappy dry spell is tantamount to a severe and cleverly disguised form of disenfranchisementan egregious and loathsome breach of the Bill of Rights absolutely guaranteed under Goas and Indias democratic constitutions. Unjustly denied that indispensable pleasure to quaff genuine aqua forte Be it beer, caju and madachi feni, whiskey, rum, gin, muscatel or port When our fine Goan citizens are enthusiastically getting ready to vote Is bound to vilely get the good-natured fun-loving Goan peoples goat To call it not cricket blatantly is putting it mildly in plain cold litotes Eloigning Goan's traditions of conviviality and joy to a domain remote For the hearts of Goan fundamental rights have been unreasonably smote Sadly holding our yearning for freedom to enjoy life and think by the throat Which only gives cruel license to teetotalers and killjoys to gleefully gloat But this flagrant breach of customs, with alarm decent Goans should note While corruption, violent crime and other gross decadence continue to bloat The outcome may be an unfair election engineered to get a badly elected Tote Cheers Arnold _ Catch suspicious messages before you open themwith Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_protection_0507 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Creationism versus Evolution
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- On 13 May 2007 : "Sunith Velho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in response to Frederick Noronha's earlier post wrote: Re: [Goanet] Tolerating Creationism FN writes: So, as far as these creationists don't block you on believing what you want, why should you evolutionists >deny them of the same? Sunith responds: Because creationism (or the Catholic version of it) is trying to creep its way into schools all over the world in the guise of a legitimate scientific theory and is being used to brainwash young children. There is as much evidence for Intelligent Design as there is for the theory that years ago a galactic warlord called Xenu rounded up 13.5 trillion beings from an overcrowded corner of the universe, dumping them on Earth before killing them with nuclear bombs(which is what Scientologists believe!). Sunith Hello Fred and Sunith: Your intense discourse on Mankind's Origins seems to have reached an impasse. Apparently, the controversy surrounding this enigmatic scientific subject with religious overtones or vice-versa,( as you like it) will not be settled until Hell freeses over. Hence to you and like-minded Juggernauts of Goanet engaged in this debate, I proffer the following verse : Choosing between Creationism and Evolution Whats the most rational and moral solution To terminate nip and tuck strife and elocution? Without a face-saving and retarding dilution Or the bathos of ravaging intellectual pollution Scrubbing the intelligent with enlightening ablution Could we develop an amalgamated convolution? forgoing predilection, passion and seminal intuition Ere mankind reaches the bloodshed of a revolution Requiring a Higher Power(s)' stern interlocution But for Heavens sake why have all this bitter consternation Twixt savants for their opposing theories seeking justification In the search for our Origins with scrutiny and elaboration That seems to lead to Oblivion with internecine vilification When whats important is not our Origins but our Destination Cheers Arnold _ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? Youll love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507 --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Feni
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html --- ON 9 May 2007 kenneth fernandes wrote: Subject: [Goanet] GOA FENI "Feni is the native liquor of Goa famous all over the world and almost synonymous with the region. This intoxicating locally brewed clear and potent drink is mainly of two types - Feni made from palm sap drawn from shoots of coconut trees known as Toddy or Madachi in the local language and the Cajuchi or the Cashew Feni, which is made from the fruit of the cashew tree or the cashew apple. The former is available all the year round but the cashew feni can only be prepared around late March, during the cashew harvest season. Goans love Feni and though booze here is cheaper than other places in India, Feni tops them all. ." Dear Kenneth: That May 9 post was an excellent vignette on the "nectar" of bibulous Goan conviviality. Your synopses on Feni was a jewel in a nut shell. However, with regard to the extraction of Toddy, I was always under the impression that the sap of the Targula and Coconut trees was tapped from the upper part of the trunks. Slits are made at strategic points and pots installed beneath the incisions. Then the sap is allowed to drip all night long into the collection pots. Hence I don't get the drift of your reference to extraction from "shoots". What shoots are your alluding to? I did not know such "Palm type" trees had sap laden shoots in their structures. The closest arboreal part that bears any semblance to shoots are the new growths emerging from the crowns of these trees. I don't believe that sap can be extracted from the inchoate outgrowths in the crowns of these trees as the yields will be insignificant. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Promoting hearty cheer and revelry is our good man Kenny In propagating his zealous advocacy for inebriating Feni True the Joys and good feelings of this drink are many And the commercial profits may provide a pretty penny Goans eagerly partake: rich, poor, wise, Jackass and his Jenny Without status and ethnic distinctions the consumers could be any It's Goan Society's irresistble magnet for a Carousing Hootenanny Viva Feni, Viva Goa Regards Arnold _ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? Youll love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507
[Goanet] Vintage e-mails coming back to haunt Goanet
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Hello Bosco: With their grave sounding undertones, the raging controversies about disclosing private e-mails and resurrecting old e-mails .are the latest fiercely conducted bones of contention on Goanet. Dominating the debates is the Rubric establishing a clear dichotomy between private and public domains with regard to disclosing information to others. For the engaging mudslinging promoted .and invidious polemic provoked, the subject dubious e-mail disclosures take the cake (or should it be bathica?).Digging up old bones or revealing skeletons in the closet to bring back uncomfortable nostalgia oft trumps current gossip hands down for eye-popping sensationalism. The deja-vu of washing someone elses past dirty linen in public could be the quintessence of what is construed as (and readily sells as) History. Come to think of it, if its old we call it History, in contrast if its current, its journalism. . Paradoxically, if timed and placed properly, old stuff can be so much more interesting and enjoyable than new (unless you and I are the unfortunate victims). Raking up damning past events and behaviour is like upturning a long undisturbed rock that reveals the underside to the harsh glare of sunlight. Such upheaval. causes hitherto hidden dreaded creatures of the underworld and other shunned sheltered life to scurry out buck naked for all the world to see in the harsh glare of sunlight.. The allegory implicit in the aforesaid in the context of the present cause celebre is remarkable. While conceding proper standards of human decency demand respect for Confidentiality and Trust, philosophically speaking, the cathartic and humanizing value of being hansardised should be recognized , Despite the perfidious breach of Trust , such documented confrontation with ones past is especially valuable when a vituperative correspondent gets offensively too big for his or her breeches. Judging strictly from ethics and honours pale If anyone should disclose confidential e-mails Even if this information is supposed to be stale Its absolutely disgraceful, worthy of hard rail The Judas fully deserves to rot in a Turkish jail And should rightly not be granted any relief in bail Cause the sacred code of confidentiality one did fail Callously without conscience revealing private details And through the Stygian River of Treachery did sail Woeful Lack of Integrity and Skullduggery it does entail Its letting the cat out of the bag many would wail Ranks more loathsome and punishable than blackmail Resurfacing old e-mails is like reviving History It may be needed to clear the cobwebs of mystery It brings certain hidden matters to the obvious fore Laying bare their quintessence to the red raw core Of course the embarrassed make a terrible uproar The saving grace is malicious gossips it wont bore The lesson to be learnt is beware of what you write For later it could cause a knock down drag out fight It could also reveal whos wrong and whos right And on the uncompromising Truth shed much light Clearing up any mysteries and facts barely recondite Notwithstanding causing the embarrassment it might And hopefully make the proven liar repentantly contrite So keep all such secrets in your back pocket Or for the ladies ensconced in your locket And at the proper time dont shyly block it in the court of public opinion show the docket It will hit the right people like a terrorist rocket And to your adversaries you can always sock it So old e-mails not deleted are like the grim Sword of Damocles Hanging over senders heads they could earn blackmailers fees Be not as surprised as a teen first learning about the birds and the bees In life one should see also the forest instead of only the trees Otherwise your outerwear of respectability you can badly crease Thus when it comes to freedom of expression dont do as you please Regards Arnold _ Mortgage refinance is Hot. *Terms. Get a 5.375%* fix rate. Check savings https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2bbb&disc=y&vers=925&s=4056&p=5117 --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html ---
[Goanet] Goa's contribution to the World of Chess
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Dear Mr Pinto: Your absorbing April 27 feature on Chess was a great awakener to Goans. The meticulous narrative on the Stategic Game of Kings and Queens should give you well deserved recognition. I hope you continue to cover this noble intellectual game with the same zeal after this opening salvo. Years ago in Bombay there was an ardent journalistic follower of the game called "Ramji", (his nom-de-plume). As a keen analyst of Chess, he was second to none in the Bombay circuit and even at National level. He was an indispensible catalyst and inspiration to many up- and- coming enthusiasts. His wholehearted encouragement to aspirants for chess honours was a big impetus to India's eventual emergence as a World Chess power. At this hour Goa should be blessed with another "Ramji" to follow his journalistic footprints with the same dedication. It's highly commendable you've given Goan Chess a big boost through your kudos for our little Chess heroine Ivana Furtado. It behoves the child prodigy's career should be adequately nurtured and guided. I hope Indian journalsm continues to give Ivana the spotlight of publicity and promotes other forms of support. She definitely requires finance, publicity, solid mentoring and other facilities which can only come with enthusiastic sponsorship and public support. India needs a successor to Viswanathan and Mir Sultan Khan. Incidentally, in the Bombay of the 1950's-60's there used to be a great chess stalwart Dr da Cunha. I'm not sure whether he hailed from Goa. He was a superb player and a fine gentlemen always encouraging the younger crop. I believe he was a Bandra resident, His regular hangout was the Parisian Restaurant opposite Bombay House(Tatas) in the heart of Fort, Bombay. Dr da Cunha reputedly polished his chess skills in London under a then World Chess Champion who could have been either Capablanca or Alekhine. I've not seen Dr da Cunha's name mentioned in your galaxy of Goan chess stars. Is this an oversight or was this highly respected chess doyen not of Goan ancestry? Please clarify. Keep up the good work. Regards Arnold _ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html ---
[Goanet] Wanted : Richard Gere, the Kissing Don Juan
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor On , 27 Apr 2007 "Bonefacio Lopes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on RICHARD GERE'S ARREST / KISSING ROW ASH HRITHIK "Wonder what's happening , it looks like an association has been formed somewhere in the remotest part of India whose duty is to monitor such petty and baseless personal and entertainment issues , wonder what's the motive behind of such groups. Richard Gere's kiss and an arrest warrant being issued against him for this kiss, have we gone loopy upstairs , second ASH/HRITHIK kissing scene, court ...(elipsis)" Dear Bonefacio: Thank you for drawing our Goanetters' serious attention to the outrageous arrest warrant issued against Richard Gere for the innocent act of kissing in public an Indian actress on Indian soil. The hapless Gringo Gere is now a wanted Casanova accused of being a bold Bandido stealing kisses in public. It behoves that such prudish official tartuffery should be soundly condemned. As you have adroitly pointed out, there is so much scurrilous activity and disgusting behaviour prevalent "on the Q.T." these days. Ergo, it's abjectly hypocritical to prosecute mere kissing (though possibly germ-propagating and provocative to the narrow-minded). In these precarious circumstances, I concur with your strong sentiments about such frivolous exercise of Indian criminal law that could make beloved India the laughing stock of the World. To express your abhorrence for the Indian legal Authorities' unjustified warrant against Mr Gere, I offer the following verse: When audacious, fun-loving, amorous, cavalier Yankee Richard Gere In the thespian spirit of dramatics with open amity and good cheer And to prove conclusively he wasnt really a downright happy queer When he danced with Jap Premier Koizumi holding him intimately near In a bold debonair act kissed an actress in India with passion sincere Poor Richard would have fared better if he pinched her tempting rear Like the salacious dons routinely perpetrate in Rome without any fear Even the virtuous Pope so busy has not yet solemnly issued a Papal Bull To curb this overly friendly offensive touching practice deemed cool Followed by lusty oafs, vagrants and tardy truants absent from school Drawing lovelorn divas to seek cheap thrills crowding St Peters full Hoping to get lucky before Vatican changes this backsliding morals rule Then for roving vixens it spells mosti kabar zala that would be awful Until these lonely ladies find a Richard Gere-inspired frisky gigolos pool Lopes vehemently contends the recent brouhaha about public osculation Is a tempest in a teacup entirely without any wit, merit or foundation This kissing surely didnt come out of ulterior motive or infatuation And did not even rise to the overt level of an impish act of flirtation Not even able to invoke a romantic Shakespearean play lovers quotation Being a simple, innocent act of goodwill, it brought only sweet elation Thus the Deshi Governments inane arrest warrant has earned indignation Lopes ominously claims even evil, unfettered Adultery is now in fashion If youve got the blue chips and appetite for lustful fun, you can cash in The craze for hot illicit sex has no strict daunting inhibition, ban or ration Porn movies, magazines, and wicked media dont suffer severe redaction All one needs is shameless bravado, sly opportunity and heady passion By Jove, then youll shockingly come to know about real rakish action So watch out for folk more sinister than Gere guaranteeing satisfaction Viva Goa !!! Regards Arnold _ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html ---
[Goanet] DOMNIC'S GOA - a rejoinder
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor On 27 Apr 2007, Miguel Braganza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote on Domnic's Goa Dears, Domnic Fernandes' book DOMNIC'S GOA was released at a wonderful function at the Kala Academy, Panaji, today. The audience was almost Who's Who [and Whose Who?] of Goa's writers and avid readers. If the presence of Wendell Rodricks made a fashion statement, so did the earthen "Gurgulet" instead (ellipsis) . Dear Miguel: Despite its mildly disguised cynicism, your brilliant April 27 sortie into the hoopla crowning Domnics Goa has an impressive aura of vernacular-tinged endemic Humour. With subtle, satirical panache you have seemingly exfoliated Freds and Cecils special relationships and activities with respect to the publication and distribution of Domnic Fernandess magnum opus. Incidentally, I have great personal admiration for Fred, Cecil and you as sanguine pillars of Goan elitist crème de la crème journalistic intellectualism and cathartic criticism. You worthy gentlemen formidably represent the haute monde of Goas literati (may your tribe increase). To Fred in particular, I owe a great debt for his encouragement and information in my humble efforts to write publicly through Goanet. Ironically, it appears whenever someone embarks on a venture in Goa, it invariably seems to create a mind-boggling imbroglio. Dauntingly, the resulting pandemonium could detract from optimizing the value of the enterprise. Regrettably, a number of us lovable Goans are natural geniuses in creativity and implementation but we cant seem to avoid the counterproductive whirlpools of cloak and dagger intrigue hamstringing, nay hemorrhaging, one another. The pejorative mystic of complex politics and socio-economic interrelationships does indeed naturally gratify the psychoanalytically-revealed insatiable appetite of Mankind for the bizarre, the grotesque and the forbidden; strangely at times, it appears our Goan ethos is unusually vulnerable to this anti-social phenomenon. . While Goans like you valiantly and selflessly fight the epic battle to preserve and elevate traditional customs, values and ethos of our ancestral lands, peoples rights and traditions, you also provide inspiration to my expatriate ilk who look back with pride at our origins and revel in the charms of nostalgia. Hence, its ingratiating that idyllic vestiges of Goas indigenous scenario, on which nostalgia rests, are being stoutly defended. Thanks to your indefatigable and staunch efforts dedicated to preserve our unique, chequered heritage, we expatriates can still enjoy the fruits of old time religion. Exemplary is your mission to enshrine our original ethnical innards and complexion, bucolic landscapes including the synthesized and blessed biology. As a marvelous blend of East and West, they vindicate our genesis and chronology echoed in antiquity . Crafted by History and Sociology and cradled in a fascinating blend of multifarious beliefs and cultures, our beloved Goa is redoubtably extant as a chimerical and charming monolith. Shielded by indomitable grit and miraculous privilege and sinewed with culture, leisure and hospitality, this existential Fantasy of Natures bounty has hitherto thrived. In the process, this irresistible international magical magnet of mirth and mysticism has prevailed over inexorable vicissitudes dictated by Time and Socio-political evolution. Ive been given to understand authoritatively, Goans of any persuasion should believe this homegrown book Dominics Goa congenially epitomizes with elegance a wonderful incisive description of this delightful Earthly mini facet of cozy Surrealism known as Goa. Furthermore, this opus purportedly goes a long way towards promoting Goas beautiful Image universally. Ergo, let us Goanetters join notables like Cecil, Fred and you to give this grand literary venture venerating Goa, our wholehearted approbation and support. Thus we can heartily celebrate the Pride and Joy of being Goan. Sincerely Arnold _ Dont quit your job Take Classes Online and Earn your Degree in 1 year. Start Today! http://www.classesusa.com/clickcount.cfm?id=866146&goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.classesusa.com%2Ffeaturedschools%2Fonlinedegreesmp%2Fform-dyn1.html%3Fsplovr%3D866144 --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html ---
[Goanet] Upcoming World snooker championships in Goa
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Hello Bosco: Alluding to the Goa News April 24 announcement "*** World snooker meet in Goa (The Hindu) NEW DELHI: The 2007 IBSF Under-21 World snooker championship will be held in Goa this September. The coastal State will be the new destination for the cue sport, which is aiming to tap the non-traditional cities to bring in new life in the ." I would be highly obliged to know the exact dates of this tournament scheduled for September 2007. As a keen afficionado of this exciting velvet green table game in years gone by, I'm very interesting in knowing about all the salient achievements and whereabouts of the legendary Thomas Monteiro who was to Snooker what Wilson Jones and Michael Ferreira were to Billiards in those halcyon days of the '50s. If my memory serves me well, among Mr Monteiro's notable international nemeses were Chandra Hirjee of Ceylon and Tom Cleary of Australia. These giants of the Sport that spawned the phrase "behind the 8 ball" were a real pleasure to watch in action. Importantly, their savoir faire and dexterity with the cue stick and coloured balls were matched by their genteelness and sportmanship. It behoves fabulous players of yore like Thomas should be appropriately remembered and exulted at this marquee forthcoming Event as a part of the lore of this skillful and demanding, but by large, unsung sport. It could be an inspiration to the present and future generations of Snooker players and serve to promote this fine game for recreation and competition.. Could someone kindly shed light on the past and present mavens of this fascinating indoor Sport that should rightfully gain the spotlight in Goa in the offing? Cheers Arnold _ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag3 --- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.goacom.org/casa-de-goa/noticias.html ---
[Goanet] The Charisma of Beer
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor On 14 Apr "Dr. U. G. Barad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: " On King Fisher started fishing in troubled waters of Goa! "King Fisher breweries had installed a beer fountain in front of Multiplex Inox Theater during celebration of IFFI 2004. Goans did raise strong protest against the beer fountain. To add to the feelings succeeding government started issuing no objection to organize wine festival every year in front of Inox . Reacting to this, Congress loyalist said "This is all because of BJP. In the first place, they should have never allowed King Fisher to set up a beer fountain during opening ceremony of IFFI 2004. BJP loyalist immediately responded saying "You see BJP allowed King Fisher to set up a beer fountain only temporarily for the benefit of tourist and to add to the glamour of IFFI 2004 celebration. The very same beer fountain was dismantled on the closing day of IFFI. Today Congress party has allowed King Fisher to open a beer bar in Inox with permanent legal license. Hence the entire blame should go to congress and not on BJP" Dear Dr Barad: As you very well know, BEER is the great common denominator in any modern societys drinking consuetude. Its mild, soothing intoxication and compatibility with other types of liquor has earned it general acceptance. Besides, its miscibility with lemonade derivatives to concoct a delightful ladys drink called shandy gives it fuddy-duddy respectability and status. It also serves as a fine stimulant to polite as well as polluted causeries and arguments. In light of the above statement, your aforesaid April 14 post should raise serious concerns in quaffing Goan circles. Ergo, the step-motherly treatment accorded to beer during the recent IFFI-related fiasco restricting its commerce and consumption is considered a rude slap in the face of any Goans unalienable birthright to unfettered arm bending freedom and observing historical traditions of convivial gaiety. Protestations are agog about the pathetic, dog-in-the-manger tactics perpetrated by certain killjoys to disenfranchise the respectable consumers of this darling meek Occidental beverage. They indicate an alarming anti-social trend. Remember beer not only supplements the average Goans hard core drinking habits but actually refines them. To wit, by Machiavellian tactics, this alleged impediment to free and suave distribution and consumption of beer could develop into a weird weir blocking the River of Revelry. Hence to prevent a catastrophic bottleneck, an elegant solution could be to rely on King Fisher, a premier beer supplier. This widely acknowledged fountainhead of beer should be given the wherewithal to ensure the uninterrupted flow of this liquid exhilaration produced by the miracle of fermenting hop and barley juices. Thirsty friends, guzzling Goans, dry countrymen lend me your ear To hearken my earnest message wetting, assuaging and sincere To quench your parched throats giving great intoxicating cheer Theres nothing as universally pleasing as a nice cold foamy beer This libation rejuvenates, relaxes and entrances imbibers far and near Augmenting hearty conviviality, the dragon of abstinence it does spear Especially in proper merry-making facilities as a balcao and belvedere Youve got to sip the frothy brew gingerly lest you suffer a hangover It doesnt matter at all whether or not beer tipplers are secular Our Goan culture demands boozing Bacchus we should always revere For regardless to what religion, community or ideology we adhere And whether we seek Salvation, Nirvana, Comfort or just Good Cheer Pursuing happy hedonism it deftly unravels snobberys veiled veneer While promoting hearty song, bubbly laughter and bonhomie among peers Who often gather for a good time in harmony any season of the year The consumers gender doesnt matter whether Man, woman or queer The recent controversy about beer sales at IFFIS annual affair we hear Escalated way beyond a minor tiff to much protest and anguished tear Threatening unfairly Goas tourists by making certain gala locales sere Thus ruffled feathers should be soothed to restore a fine atmosphere Snide accusations are rife that commercial interests seek to profiteer by manipulating when and where distributors could legally sell beer A political clash between parties like Congress and BJP over this furor Has engendered a cause celebre fractious to many Goan hearts yet dear Ideally, could we smart Goans an Utopian beer-serving place conjure? Affording the permanence, peace and warm jollity of a Hun Rathskeller Where in soaked harmony, animosity and strife would magicall
[Goanet] Tony Martin vs Dr Barad
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 "Albert Desouza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tony Martin V/S Dr.Barad Dear Goanetters I have noticed long ago when I began to write Tony Martin was there to critise me. I do not remember the topic on which I wrote by I remember this Tony Martin who used to send me nasty emails after which I had decided to quit .. On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Sunith D Velho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Re: Debating opinions instead of grammar Anthony, It would be in everyone's interest to stick to debating ideas or opinions rather than grammar. We all get what Dr. Barad is trying to say. Minor errors like a wrongly placed full stop hardly qualify as 'murder'. I also think he meant FLOP rather than flock. Looks like you missed the pun. Sunith P.S. As a man 'passionate' about the English language(or is it just the English) you must be aware that it is bad practice to start a sentence with a conjunction(But) and quite unacceptable to start two successive sentences with the same conjunction. P.P.S. It is also usual to follow the conjunction with a comma when used in this way. Dear Albert and Sunith: Reading your posts often, I find you two erudite gentlemen have a lot of interesting things to express and do so succinctly and pleasantly, generally speaking. Your blistering invective against Mr Martins draconian stance on the diction and grammar used by certain individuals may portend the ominous shaping of a knock down, drag out battle-royal. I believe Tony Martin is an exceptionally good English writer as demonstrated in certain articles he invited me to read. But so are you too my worthy Goanet contributors. Maybe Tony is being an overzealous but well-meaning Apostle of pure English, seeking to improve the general standard of communications at Goanet. On the other hand, one could surmise Tony is subtly trying to introduce Konkani as the sole medium of communication at Goanet. His vituperative censure of those he thinks have committed unacceptable solecisms, could really be a broad hint to many of us blokes that when it comes to the Queen's English, we just dont have it right and need intensive guidance and support. His reprimands to those deemed outrageous transgressors, may be prima facie hurtful but not disingenuous. His barbs could be akin to the oxymoronic kind cruelty of a surgeons knife. Ergo, those of us affected should seriously think of improving their knowledge of English or in default gracefully reverting to the language of our ancestors and be truly Goan in spirit, tongue and culture. This sounds quite rational because indeed Konkani is our real lingua franca. Its not difficult to see from the conservative, indigenous Goan point of view that certain xenophiles have unscrupulously usurped the Cyberspace that rightfully belongs to lovers of Konkani, the real McCoy. Of course that leaves a nondescript fellow like me out in the cold for regrettably Im neither fish nor fowl. Tonys obsessive Anglophile fetish for purity makes him punctilious But his perceived carping criticism of others usages makes one bilious Each asserting hes logically, grammatically and conventionally right Could create the framework of an engaging and bitter Goanet fight Lets hope the final outcome does not sadly make anyone supercilious Viva Goanet!!! Cheers Arnold _ Interest Rates Fall Again! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18679&moid=7581
[Goanet] Is togetherliness best cemented by flocking or flopping?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Hello Tony: Pardon me for interjecting into your amusing though apparently acerbic polemic with Dr Barad, but I opine your latest boomerang to your learned bete noir seems to cast you astonishingly in the stickling role of a linguistic purist cum Avenging Angel. This is commendable for the benefit of humble half baked readers like me. After all, I learnt the niceties of the English language , derived from Mumbai billingsgate, in the dirty, swinging streets of Bombay. With a coterie of fellow truants ( bootli marao, mai tcho go !!!) who were natural geniuses and avid readers to boot, I learnt the "gully" parlance that gave us so much freedom of thought and bawdy expression in the real world. Thank you, sir for improving formal education-deprived povwalas of my ilk. In response to your vitriolic criticism of Dr Barad, my sense of conjecture tends to give your adversary the benefit of the doubt. At the risk of being accused of naivete I'd like to assume, Barad may have been no bumbling bungler in reciting this time worn metaphor. Since you may expect at least some clarification of my stance, I offer the following elucidation in verse. Contending that while reciting the "togetherness" metaphor, Dr Barad's use of "flop" instead of "flock" could have been no mere slip of the pen. Au contraire, it smacks of a devious and deliberate eyebrow raiser examining the minds, hearts and movements of a gaggle of fun-loving "bebdos". Addressing the alleged outrageous misdeed of a wanton malaprop Who, citing an Anglophile purist, rules of idiom did flagrantly drop Overreaching sparse language skills with diction inept to adopt That strong remedial English classes may not be enough to prop But read on with sympathy to Dr Barad's subject of the profligate fop Though by solecism to wreck an old adage he did wryly opt Using the flat out wrong word insouciantly for flock atop His shockingly half-baked choice of words befitting a wop With gaps in his education because he was schooled coop Its not difficult to imagine his teacher gave him many a wallop Gathering with his convivial coterie freely guzzling slop But of course after a wild wassail, birds of a feather do flop Emerging together inebriated from the same jolly grog shop Stinking like pigs and singing falsetto, theyre all over the top Since losing all inhibitions, they brazenly pull out all the stops Even if they are under the vigilant observation of a strict cop Who is ready to haul them in and give each one a big bop Having more than enough to drink, theyre soon ready to drop But lets not take umbrage at these heady hipsters on the hop Each maybe just trying to forget his household henpecking trollop Whose hot nagging to deter, the chap cant use the legal estop Because of the habit of past carousals hes been wont to adopt Now his Xanthippe is waiting menacingly roiled but all dolled up To give her bibulous man a tongue lashing and also bust his chops After fond goodbyes, willy-nilly he saunters home not exactly at full gallop To greet his battle-ax Dame with the congeniality of a 5 star hotel bellhop For penance hell recite the Holy Rosary after the floors hell have to mop As his irate Delilah her staggering Samsons hair is very anxious to crop Take care and keep up the good work. Regards Arnold _ MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win today. http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline
[Goanet] Desecration of Goa's old Medical Building
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Selma responding to Dr Helekar apropos "Desecration of Goa's old Medical Building", wrote: Dear Santosh, We must simply get over the idea of thinking in terms of "all or nothing". Let's be realistic here. Even if we all contribute, and I assure you when push comes to shove, you will have a minuscule minority contributing, can a contribution or even donation alone, sustain 43 lakhs in perpetuity for . --- Santosh Helekar wrote: Dear Arnoldbab, Excellent suggestions! Yes, the best way to restore and preserve the GMC heritage building is to convert it into a museum. I think there might be room in it to house, not just our scientific and medical heritage, but the broader historical and cultural legacy as well. Perhaps, we should all contribute to making this a reality. -- Dear Selma: Lets never forget Goas prestige, pride, international appeal and ultimately marketability, even in a purely commercial sense, lie deeply embedded in its traditional history, culture, ethnicity, native dynamism as well as laissez-faire insouciance. Hence Goas Life Blood is the preservation whether good, bad, obsolete or vibrant of what has been handed down through the Annals of our glorious History and blessed by our ancestors. Many of the facets of the foregoing are manifest in our old physical infrastructure Accordingly, we should be exceedingly proud of and jealously guard this precious Heritage unless change is inevitably required in appropriate circumstances. While conceding your adroit April 10 counterpoint to Dr Helekar has pragmatic merit quintessentially, let me emphasize we cannot entirely ignore the obvious current erosion of a unique heritage of pristine Indo-Iberian culture and values. This devastating phenomena apparently has unfettered and poorly planned growth and modification among the principal culprits to blame. Prima facie, in the interests of social justice and public good, a contemplated deviation from tradition and extant infrastructure should be carefully examined not only in terms of pure Economics. Many other factors should also be given due weight. But most importantly the Will, Conscience and Welfare of the real stakeholders, i.e. the citizens of Goas wishes must be respected in the light Goa's viability as a political and socio-economic entity. The Old Medical College, I understand, was one of the prestigious cornerstones of Goa's advanced educational system in most vital public service-related fields of Learning and a salient determinant in Goa's Health system. Besides, I gather this institution provided the World at large with a myriad of health providers. If true, surely its special status as a "Sanctum Sanctorum of Scientific Learning" should be honoured appropriately. Hence its preservation as a significant element in the on-going integrity of the Land could be important. Additionally,.could any such perceived vitiation of Goas popular and revered edifices and monuments be toxic to the cultural environment and public morale of Goas people?. To this end, let there be a plebiscite conducted for all important matters such as this one polling only validly domiciled citizens. To choose from, Resident Goans should be offered reasonable alternatives in the ballots, including the suggestion of housing a Science Museum. Given Goa is a small state, such polls anent important issues appear to be feasible. Your concerns about financing the costs of creating a Museum at the Medical College site are valid and should be addressed. Donations and even a State Bond issue to cover the necessary outlays could provide the answer. Also Goa's tycoons could be solicited for patronage. But probably the best source of financial support could be non-Goan visitors to Goa. Taxing the aliens to the maximum at every possible point will not only help the coffers of the State to finance the preservation of heritage momuments but help keep out the undesirables. It could also provide some additional employment to resident Goans and relieve the locals' tax burden.. On the macro level, I agree Goa needs a regular stream of adequate revenue to sustain its viability. In that I believe well planned, controlled and executed Tourism activity is the goose that can lay the golden eggs of fiscal prosperity. Furthermore, nurturing Tourism as a lucrative, employment generating industry requires the mystic of our Monuments properly preserved and protected in order to allure the free-spending rubberneckers. Preliminary feasibility studies should be conduct
[Goanet] HURRAH, AUNTY IS BACK IN THE SADDLE AGAIN !!!
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Hello Francis: Rumour was rife our beloved Aunty like a shrinking violet had retired into cloister Withdrawing coyly into reclusive silence with the reticence of a clammed up oyster But then like Easter's dawn, quoting the famous poet Alexander Pope's lines: "Hope springs eternal in the human breast.." On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, you surprisingly wrote under the caption: **AUNTY ON VACATION**: "Dear 'Aunty' fans everywhere, All yer dudes, from A to Z (Alfred/Stockholm, Bosco/TO, Carmo/Fla..to Zeno/Mexico!), we're touched by your concern for Aunty's health, given her prolonged absence (ellipsis).. ... 'Aunty' should be back at Easter - trite, banal, cheesy, inane and bumptious certainly, but without a doubt - far, far worse! Kator re baji! Francis." As a jubilant rejoinder, Im as pleased as Punch to know Goanets Mary Poppins is back like the Swallows of Capistrano to resume her Herculean tasks of cleaning out the Konkans Augean stables with a vengeance. They say its not over until the fat lady sings. After perusing with utter relief, Goanets Maestro of Humours quizzical yet apologetic explanation for his battle-ax Auntys sojourn in mothballs, lets embrace our Grand Old Manna and her nephew who created the delightful ( but to some, dreadful) diva. Aunty and you certainly deserve a hearty welcome back into the portals of Goanet's Cyberspace with big garlands of cordial cheers. Consistent with the élan of Easter, lets celebrate your resurrecting Aunty from her hibernation with the following verse. To honour Auntys sanguine but naughty nephew, Francis A rambunctious witty scion of the reputable Rodrigues clan is Francis Whose caustic bons mots have sent Goanetters into corybantic dances Lasciviously using the subterfuge of his verbal daredevil Auntys romances With Goas affairs covering politics, customs, tourism, people and finances Harnessing this daunting dames sardonic ribaldry replete with subtle nuances As she hurls her awesome thunderbolts of wit and wisdom with arcane appurtenances An acerbic activist, his fairy godmothers open billets doux air Goas grievances Is also manifest as a mystical Oracle dispensing laughter, advice, tears and séances Using this provocative spinster as his mordant mouthpiece who makes no allowances For the high and mighty, the holy, the popular, the rich, with glee he mercilessly bounces In shadow boxing his foes magically, never changing his mind-boggling firm stances His puckish satire has provoked much more than angst with malevolent glances Preposterously arousing rancour, with attracting libel lawsuits he takes serious chances His detractors claim his weird inspiration comes enigmatically from psychedelic trances Conjuring taunting jibes from stygian sources like ominous, mysterious necromancies With burlesque comedy he intrepidly dares make grossly indecent intellectual advances Wielding his pet bombshell Auntys mighty pen subtly in Goas vernacular parlances And harrowing his hapless, incensed betes-noirs with trenchant raillery he lances Reigning supreme in Goanets Kingdom of Humour, with insouciance he wildly prances To wit, this virtuosos quaint weaponry of words, Goas Wellbeing gloriously enhances Cheers and keep the good ones coming with alacrity. Arnold _ Interest Rates Fall Again! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18679&moid=7581
[Goanet] Desecration of Goa's old Medical Building
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by an Anonymous Donor Hello Dr Helekar: With keen interest, I have been following your valiant and astute efforts to preserve structurally hallowed dated portals of Medical learning in Goa. I commend your yeoman efforts to oppose this undesirable usurpation of intellectual-related physical property for filthy lucre. Apparently certain powers-that- be seek to favor Lakshmi at the expense of Saraswati. It's wonderful Goa has eminent mavens of your caliber dedicated to upholding the Banner of our treasured Scientific Heritage. If we Goans don't realize the intrinsic value of these precious monuments to Science which are the seminal cradle of scientific knowledge, how do we expect our future generation to pick up the baton of scientific progress and run with it for posterity ?. Has any serious thought been given to viable alternatives for future disposition of this pristine medical property? How about due consideration to setting up a suitable Museum housing Goan science-related relics, information on inventions, lterature and cognate topics related to medical and other science fields. Native Biology especially germane to Botany and Zoology could find a suitable place in this institution. It could be a revenue maker and also the nucleus of a repository of data for research. Also an impressive display of Goa's contribution to the World of Science could attract afficionadoes and tourists thus stimulating a renewed interest in Science. Enhancing Goa's international prestige, this would flesh out a relatively unknown dimension of Goa's multifaceted genius. Consequently, it will help Goa's assertion of its "raison de etre" as a distinct, viable identity today and futuristically. There could definitely be an important role for native scientists like you to play in the planning and development of such a project. In a parallel situation, the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Colaba , Mumbai started as the brain child of the visionary Dr Homi Bhabha that eventually gave India Atomic Power and many other benefits. Drawing from the inspiration of a New Testament episode:" Let's promote a campaign to drive away the money changers and keep inviolate our Temple of Learning" by preventing the outrageous cupidity of commercial interests from intruding on our erstwhile Medical Edifice of Erudition. May the People of Goa be aroused to thwart the rapacious forces of Titanism conspiring to deviously desecrate this proud symbol of our pristine scientific infrastructure as a malevolent sacrifice at the Altar of Mammon. Regards Arnold _ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07
[Goanet] A Caveat to Plagiarists
Quibbling and pussy footing about the exact concept and branding of Plagiarism, and even snidely defending it with disingenuous argument, the raging polemic among Goanet's version of " MENSA" has been quite an education, nay delightful distraction, for the hoi polloi of this Cyberspace. At times what the debaters woefully lack in wit, they amply make up in grit. While much erudite analysis, semantics and reasoning (degenerating in splitting hairs with spin occasionally) has been proffered eloquently, it appears scant attention has been paid to the question of consequences for blatant, indefensible plagiarism. Should we acquiesce in this miisdeed as a mere puckish misdemeanor with a reprimand i.e.a perfunctory slap on the wrists (say three Our Fathers and three Hail Marys as penance; but repentantly kneel , rotten heel ) or should draconian punishment be imposed on such transgressors as condign retribution and a stern deterrent? A Caveat to Plagiarists From a purely logical and fair point-of- view All publishing authors should give the devil his due When borrowing, if posing as if its entirely new The dire consequences one should regretfully rue The aggrieved originators could indignantly sue If with their seminal work someone did screw Demanding retraction or compensation in lieu For the vile, brazen skulduggery, plagiarists do Like a bat out of Hell their morals and ethics flew When sadly out of dishonesty this faux pas grew Woe betide for the trouble this crime could brew Such sly thieves could spot themselves in a stew Besides the ignominy of having their own words to chew They could find it very difficult to start their careers anew Plagiarism is stealing and its consequences should be revealing. Cheers Arnold _ Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod Stewart, Oasis and more. Visit MSN Presents today. http://music.msn.com/presents?icid=ncmsnpresentstagline&ocid=T002MSN03A07001
[Goanet] Plagiarism
Plagiarism An extract from Wikipedia states: Plagiarism is the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work. Ergo, it's tantamount to the perceived pilferage of published products for profit and prominence. Detection can Illwill and Censure invite.. The proscription against plagiarism is about protecting Ownership and fostering Creativity. Plagiarism is unauthorized use of other's material that belies The authors competence and in the face of Originality flies It smacks of soiled creativity and misplaced enterprise Overstepping boundaries of propriety with such unfair device Manifests abject dishonesty the Establishment does despise As all the desirable merit accruing to such work ignobly dies The product of an author should be unassailably seminal and wise Of its purity and integrity, no aspersions and doubts should arise Powers-that-be judge the works value not merely by craft and size Failing the touchstone test of circumspection, Society will sternly criticize After due process, censorious standards of justice the Law will exercise Thus to many a good reputation, offending pirates have said "Goodbyes" Stealing intellectual eggs from another's nest, could make you a dubious Book Club guest. Arnold _ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/
[Goanet] Goan Etiquette in chowing down
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hello Cecil: Your "noblesse oblige" to make bon vivants out of us Goanetters is highly commendable. Rendered in cute catechism form, your elegant dissertation involving dining decorum is an intriguing classic. In an authoritative vein, you have adeptly reiterated Goan table traditions with a marvellous combination of structured solemnity and ribtickling humour. The canons of conviviality delivered with such chutzpah are not just entertaining. To many of us Goanetters, your rules could also be an edification on the observances of authentic customs requisite for survival socially in polite circles upholding the last vestiges of Goa's haute monde . Adroitly guiding us Goanet readers through the heady labyrinth of Konkan consuetude with all its nooks, crannies and pitfalls, you've proved once again our Goa is a complex and vibrant realm. Consequently, you've revealed a mind boggling and fascinating domain where living is a daily adventure. It may irreverently appear to some half-baked mavericks that through your epicurean "Ten Commandments" you're subtly attempting to put lipstick on Goa's pigs, metaphorically speaking. But normal Goans ( especially the conservative intelligentsia), seriously interested in preserving our precious original inheritance of time honoured customs, should hail you as a Messiah of sorts. Let's hope your masterpiece can instill fresh blood in order to stem the tide of constant, but hopefully not yet inexorable, erosion of Goa's unique cultural ethos caused by the vicissitudes of Time and menacing Political, Social and Economic overrides. Keep up the good work, maestro. Bon Appetit !!! Cheers Arnold _ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701
[Goanet] Unjustified aspersions cast on our expatriate brothers and sisters
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Frederick: There's been an unpleasant wave of frothy, invidious derision directed against Goan "shippies" and "gulfies". It's reminiscent of our erstwhile foreign masters and their parvenu lackeys who arrogantly labelled us Goans as "Goanese". I have known many of these fine, pioneering sons and daughters of our ancestor's soil. They are the salt of the earth. It's their honest, humble toil and guts that has brought golden opportunities for prosperity and prestige to many of their scions who are the thriving "noveau riche" of today. I compare them with the legendary Argonauts of Greek mythology. Undaunted by the risks and hardships of the unknown, the hostilities encountered as aliens, the handicaps of humble antecedents and lack of formal education, these valiant people have persevered and established themselves heroically. The fruits of their noble endeavors are a predominance of the "arrives" we hobnob with in this day and age. I'm proud and privileged to have known these brave, industrious pioneers who have marvellously blazed the Trails to Glory for their fortunate descendants. Their loyalty to family, innate patriotism and intrepid sacrifices are an inspiration to all of us Goans. Importantly, their monetary remittances and investments have made substantial contributions to Goa's economy that could have turned moribund. True the Nonresident Goan's inevitable ostentation and xenophilia has raised the dander of the locals frequently. However one can scarcely deny the expatriates have created a new Westernized dimension in our culture that could prove serendipitously to be an "Open Sesame" to blend the old with the new. If you remember, the conquistador Vasco Da Gama did that just that for Goa nearly 500 years ago!!!. Quoting Thomas Gray's Elegy written in a Country Courtyard, I would like to cite in part what the great poet wrote in 1751: Let not ambition mock their useful toil; Their homely joys, and destiny obscure; Nor grandeur hear, with a disdainful smile, The short and simple annals of the poor. Around the turn of the 19th-20th Century, an exodus of Jewish immigrants arrived in New York City to start life anew after fleeing pogroms and other persecution. Many, including even children, worked in the garment industry twelve hours a day, seven days a week. Paraphrasing their motto,the gist ran thus: We'll work our fingers to the bone and our backs into bows so that our children can stand on our shoulders to challenge posterity". I believe our Goan diaspora/denizens/seafarers embody the noble spirit of that sanguine credo. Cheers Arnold
[Goanet] Goan "shippies" and "gulfies"
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Frederick: There's been an unpleasant wave of frothy, invidious derision directed against Goan "shippies" and "gulfies". It's reminiscent of our erstwhile foreign masters and their parvenu lackeys who arrogantly labelled us Goans as "Goanese". I have known many of these fine, pioneering sons and daughters of our ancestor's soil. They are the salt of the earth. It's their honest, humble toil and guts that has brought golden opportunities for prosperity and prestige to many of their scions who are the thriving "noveau riche" of today. I compare them with the legendary Argonauts of Greek mythology. Undaunted by the risks and hardships of the unknown, the hostilities encountered as aliens, the struggles of humble antecedents and lack of formal education, these valiant people have persevered and established themselves heroically. The fruits of their noble endeavors are a predominance of the "arrives" we hobnob with in this day and age. I'm proud and privileged to have known these brave, industrious pioneers who have marvellously blazed the Trails to Glory for their fortunate descendants. Their loyalty to family, innate patriotism and intrepid sacrifices are an inspiration to all of us Goans. Importantly, their monetary remittances and investments have made substantial contributions to Goa's economy that could have turned moribund. True the Nonresident Goan's inevitable ostentation and xenophiliia has raised the dander of the locals frequently. However one can scarcely deny the expatriates have created a new Westernized dimension in our culture that could prove serendipitiously to be an "Open Sesame" to blend the old with the new. If you remember, the conquistador Vasco Da Gama did that just that for Goa nearly 500 years ago!!!. Quoting Thomas Gray's Elegy written in a Country Courtyard, I would like to cite in part what the great poet wrote in 1751: Let not ambition mock their useful toil; Their homely joys, and destiny obscure; Nor grandeur hear, with a disdainful smile, The short and simple annals of the poor. Around the turn of the 19th-20th Century, an exodus of Jewish immigrants arrived in New York City to start life anew after fleeing pogroms and other persecution. Many, including even children, worked in the garment industry twelve hours a day, seven days a week. Paraphrasing their motto it ran thus:" We'ill work our fingers to the bone and our backs into bows so that our children can stand on our shoulders to challenge posterity". I believe our Goan diaspora/denizens/seafarers embody the noble spirit of that sanguine credo. Cheers Arnold
[Goanet] FW: Goa is nearer to Heaven than you can imagine
2006 * * * Y E A R * * * O F * * * T H E * * * S E N I O R Goa Sudharop Annual Awards on November 20, 2006 @ Mandovi Hotel @ 4:30pm Chief Guest: Dr. Asha Vishwanath Sawardekar A series of essays as a tribute to Goan Seniors can be found at: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=524 GOLDEN TELEPHONE An American planned to write a book about famous churches around the world for tourists. So to begin with he bought a plane ticket and took a trip to China. On his first day inside a Chinese church taking photographs he noticed a golden telephone mounted on the wall with a sign that read "$10,000 per call". Intrigued by this, the American asked a priest strolling by what the telephone was used for. The priest replied that it was a direct line to heaven and for $10,000 you could talk to God. The American thanked the priest and went along his way. Next stop was in Japan. At a very large cathedral there, he saw the same golden telephone with the same sign under it. Wondering whether this was the same kind of telephone he saw in China, he asked a nearby nun what its purpose was. She too told him that it was a direct line to heaven and that for $10,000 he could talk to God. The American thanked the nun.. He then traveled to Pakistan, Srilanka, Russia, Germany and France. In every church he saw the same golden telephone with the same "$10,000 per call" sign under it. Finally this USA citizen heard about the famous Churches of Goa. So the Yankee decided to travel to Goa to see if the churches in Blessed Land of St Francis Xavier had the same kind of phone. He arrived in Goa, and entered the Basilica of Bom Jesus. Right enough there was the same golden telephone, but this time the sign under it read "One Rupee per call." The surprised American asked the attending priest about the telephone sign. "Father, I've traveled all over World and I've seen this same golden telephone in many churches. I'm told that it is a direct line to Heaven, but everywhere the price was $10,000 per call. Why is it so cheap here?" The Holy Padre smiled and answered, " Son, you're on the Sacred Ground of Old Goa now". -" IT'S A LOCAL CALL" _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goanet Commands deserve "Roger Wilco"
Hello Roland: You have disseminated a resounding echo of the Good Book's applicable edicts for the benefit of us Goan tellurians ensconced in Cyberspace's recesses at Goanet. Enshrined in your sagacious Decalogue is an overwhelming epistle. I feel awfully embarrassed as utterly unworthy to be commingled with this almost Scriptural message. I'm no bard by any stretch of the imagination. Were you to grant me the meagre status of an inchoate poetaster playing the struggling jester at Goanet's court, it would be flattering. Your enunciation of the tenets of good, wholesome fellowship at Goanet is most timely and appropriate. And it is not I but you who are among the few real Apostles of the sanguine caliber of Fred and Bosco carrying on the arduous campaign for good communications, righteousness and decency in the portals of this Goan nook of Cyberspace. In relation to its members and the outside world, your definition of the scope of Goanet has perspicuously envisaged an unalienable forum as refined and farreaching as the Founders and Moderators could ever contemplate. To be properly absorbed by Goanet's membership, it will need much rumination and introspection with open and keen minds and resolute hearts. Assuming the simulated mantle of Moses, you've didactically brought down to Goanetters the allegoricalTablets conveying Enlightenment, Goodwill and Peace to overhaul and invigorate Goanet's exchange. As you descend from the Commanding Hills of Utopian aspirations, I hope you succeed in your noble mission to create a harmonious tessellation of interrelationships within this internet community . May you and your ilk never have to dash these Tablets, conceived in metaphor, on the Rock of Frustration and Disappointment. Motivated by "noblesse oblige", you've delivered a convincing, "piece-de-resistance". I hope the Goanet faithful take heed deeply and are positively influenced by its power. My learned friend, in producing this wonderful prose blending wisdom, pacifism and elegance with magnificent panache, you have greatly exceeded what Goanet could ever expect from a subscriber. Indeed a catharsis- driven Messenger you truly are for the Survival, nay Glory, of Goanet. Sincerely Arnold Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:34:36 -0500 From: "Roland Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Goanet Commands To: Goanet Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I consider Arnold Noronha a prophet of Goanet's well-being. If Arnold is offended at what is happening (the other Noronha has enunciated it), then people on Goanet need to work on it. For Arnold is a mystical bard whose tribe diminishes. _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Aunty's oracle
Hello Francis: Where the hell have you been absconding, our Goanet's favourite punster? I was beginning to believe you were kidnapped and held for ransom and/or repentance. Using your lofty fairy godmother's oracle for gleeful, unfair advantage, you've become the "enfant terrible" of Goanet in certain staid and self-righteous circles. Your egregious and unforgiveable bons mots ridiculing certain venerable parties could get you shanghaied. For your puckish pranks in Cyberspace you could be condignly sent to a remote Goan Gulag in the unknown fastness of the Ghats. There you will be held to repent and promise to sin no more against the prim and proper prudes. You were missed, Mister Witty Bull in the China shop ruthlessly attacking Goanet's element of drab conventionality and humourless boredom. Your latest insouciant digs at everyone and his uncle or aunt are fabulous. Keep coming back to Goanet's Cyberspace to cheer us grumpy, cantankerous and somber ones with your delightful and subtle ribaldry. You kick every other humorist off center stage. Your wit is to die for when absent. Cheers Arnold _ Add a Yahoo! contact to Windows Live Messenger for a chance to win a free trip! http://www.imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/yahoo/default.aspx?locale=en-us&hmtagline ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] JUSTICE FOR SPORTSPERSONS.
Dear Veronica: Apropos the imbroglio of complicated politics, your resounding manifesto for justice in the sports arena is impressive. Your startling revelations are dismaying to the uninformed reader. You have effectively portrayed Dr Susane D'souza as a target of malevolent intriques. I'm delighted you revealed her father's identity. I knew the great footballer Joviniano who wore Tata's colours. In his heyday, he was a great one both on and off the field . If I remember correctly, he had to give up playing this sport during his peak years because of bad injuries. This tall and graceful player gave Bombay football boundless glamour and excitement. He was a class act any way you sliced him. It behoves Destiny that his daughter took up where he left off at the lofty heights of Sport.. Your insights into the innards of sports goings-on in our Motherland are fascinating to outsiders of Goan extract who are not privy to Goa's inside story. It's hoped you're successful in your arduous campaign for justice and improvements in Goa's world of Sport. May you have the wind at your back as you take up the daunting task of cleaning the Augean Stables where Goa's ugly spots reside. Sincerely Arnold >From: "A. Veronica Fernandes" To: goanet@goanet.org CC: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JUSTICE FOR SPORTSPERSONS. Date: Sat, 04 >Nov 2006 17:34:31 + > >JUSTICE FOR SPORTSPERSONS. _ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and morethen map the best route! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Putting our cards on the table
Hello Mario: Thanks for your perspective on the scope of Goanet's activiities in the light of its Cyberspace mission. You're right in asserting that the focus should be on Goa and Goan-related matters. It was a glaring faux-pas on my part to to omit that important fact. I appreciate your supplementing my opinion. In response to your curiosity about my opening remark: "Is the game worth the candle?". I borrowed this from a time worn cliche. It idiomatically means:" I wonder whether whatever you're doing is repaying the time, money or effort you're putting into it". Its etymology is derived from the English translation of the Essays of Montaigne (1603). Your rejoinder is interesting. Cheers Arnold Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:11:59 -0800 (PST) From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Putting our cards on the table _ Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Michael Ferreira, World Billiards Champ
Hello Eugene: Thanks for the expose on World billiards champ Michael Ferreira. Incidentally, if community attributes really matter, Michael is/was an East Indian attorney based in Bombay. He became King of the Billiard table in the wake of Wilson Jones, an Anglo-Indian, who was India's first World Amateur Billiard top dog. In fact, Wilson was India's first ever World Champion in any sport. When Wilson won his World crown, a legislator proposed in the Indian Parliament that he be recognized suitably for the honour he brought his country as World Billiards Champion. The extant Union Sports Minister's bland response was: "What is Billiards?" I believe Wilson, Michael's predecessor, was awarded a national honour eventually. At the time, the Bombay Tiger was fortunate he was even offered the Padma Shri. Of course he deserved much better. Please let us know what this 4 time champion, Mr Ferreira is doing now. I know his career was in the practice of law in Bombay. As an interesting titbit did you know Michael's mother, a prominent Bandra socialite attended practically every match her son ever played in his early career? Well, Michael showed he had sports pride and self-respect of the highest order in refusing to compromise on the proper award he was entitled to. Way to go, champ!!!. Cheers Arnold Message: 8 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 22:00:36 -0800 (PST) From: Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Anglo-Indians (Michael Ferreia) To: goanet@goanet.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To correct myself, Michael Ferreira won the world billiards (not snooker) four times. Here's what I picked from the net (partly). "Born Bombay (Now Mumbai), 1 October 1938 Nicknamed ?Bombay Tiger?, Michael Ferreira, four times world Billiards champion, was a rebel with a cause during his playing days. In 1981, after winning the world title for a second time, he was offered the Padma Shri while Sunil Gavaskar was conferred with the more prestigious Padma Bhushan. His reply to the Government of India letter was, ?My achievements in Billiards are in no way inferior to that of Sunil Gavaskar?s in Cricket. If he deserves a Padma Bhushan, I do too. The Government should treat all games equally.? He refused to accept the award. Eugene Correia _ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more then map the best route! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Putting our cards on the table
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hello Bosco and Frederick: Is the game worth the candle? In Goanet's posts the trend of puerileness and supercilious posturing in reciprocity continues unabated. Repartee which should be a healthy, mutually and universally beneficial exchange has degenerated to the nadir of snide and snotty mudslinging.The hallowed ground of Goanet cyberspace should not be desecrated and sacrificed for internecine personal vendettas. The persistent repetition of vindictiveness and rubbing salt in old wounds appears to provide indefensible gratification to certain subscribers notwithstanding their putative lofty academic and professional qualifications. This forum should be dedicated to battles of intelllects and wits not Billingsgate, Socratic dialogue not street brawling, happy and healthy conversations not the Hatfields and McCoys. You've tried very hard to reverse this grotesque scenario. Now I ask:" Whither goest thou". Goanet's management is being pilloried for doing its duty to maintain high standards and promote the image of a Jewel in Cyberspace internet communications. I opine it's really a section of the readership that is the fly in the ointment. I've now noticed even some of those I thought of as "classy" are really turning out to be utter disappointments. I realize I've contributed very little to Goanet but I'd like to voice my opinion to you two individuals whom I respect and learn from in the grim world of journalism and human relations. Enough said. Sincerely Arnold _ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] East Indians
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Selma et al: The current debate on Ethnicity is a refreshing breath of fresh air, setting a desirable standard for Goanet's exchanges. The contributing opinions and facts presented have been synergistic. Besides, most of the information disclosed thus far during the discussions is accurate and pertinent. However when describing the ethos of "East Indian" ethnicity, the participants seem to have left out one significant characteristic. The Upper Crust until at least a generation ago spoke Portuguese, or a strong derived dialect thereof, in polite society and even within their households. This has added to the piquant flavour of their unique culture. Now I consider these indigenous people the original sons of the soil. They've irrevocably and unequivocally identified themselves as native Bombayites and/or citizens of Salsette. But to define their true identity and culture holistically can be a rather formidable undertaking. They're complex social hybrids. Many of their ilk worked for the British East India Company, hence the classification nomenclature. But socially although Christian they are distinctly identifiable with the seminal endemic populace. Linguistically speaking they are fairly polyglottic. They speak Marathi, English, and a fair number of them Portuguese with equal facility. If we concede that "Language" is the main driver of social customs and culture then we dealing with an enigmatic pot pourri of an evolved group buffeted by the winds of History and Sociology. I'm enjoying this discussion. Cheers Arnold > >Message: 9 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:09:18 -0800 (PST) From: Carvalho >Subject: Re: [Goanet] Lost tribe of Africa, Mestizoes, Anglo-Indians and >East Indians _ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goan goodies.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Frederick and Bosco: The folowing Quips are intended to put some spring into Goanet's step to bring in theThanksgiving and Christmas Spiirit as we come to the close of the Year 2006. Being a part of Goanet is like escorting Cinderella to a glittering ball;. You get the reflected glory of being in fabulous company. A discussion within Goanet is like climbing coconut trees;. You go for the nuts but could land on your butts. They say to get out of a hole you've first got to stop digging To leave Goanet's ship your heart's got to be free of its rigging The difference between a Goan melody and a malady is: One is a sonorous "kantar's" lovely tune The other provides a "dottor" with a boon In Goa there's trepidation over the menace of aggressive stray dogs But we still love pigs for hot sorpatel , after modernizing the bogs With moribund reader interest, Goanet's Moderator must oft close a thread But shall we honor it with a solemn requiem and maudlin tears being shed? The Moderator's draconian measure of censure is Goanet's grim touchstone To rescue suffering readership from ennui, flame-baits and cant not to be borne Goa's enchantment lies in an idyllic land of warmth, feasting, song, palms, and sea breezes A romantic's heartstrings it gently pulls and every craving appetite its halcyon zephyr teases Considering current economic trends, some may have to cease contributing to Goanet's posts; it's getting difficult to pay for ghost-writers Happy Holidays!!! Arnold _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Death of Footballer Angela.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Veronica: That is a beautiful tearjerking essay on the egregious injustices prevalent in Goa's society today. To all of us Angela should be considered a martyr in the service of Sport. Suicide is a desperate act in case of emotional distress and extreme deprivation. I don't believe it should be condemned. It's a dismal act born out of extreme frustration with the system and the unfairness of Fate reflected in life's misfortunes. Very often it's the crime of society's neglect and insensivity towards the plight of the persecuted and downtrodden. You have brought out the depravity of Society's mistreatment of Angela brilliantly. I commend you for your adroitness and candour. May your arduous crusade for justice and sympathetic public outcry be recognized by the proper Authorities. May the Souls of departed Angela and Pratima rest in peace in the all compassionate, understanding and healing arms of the Lord. Amen. Sincerely Arnold From: "A. Veronica Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@goanet.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Death of Footballer Angela. Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:25:18 + DEATH OF GOAN SOCCER COACH ANGELA. _ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmtagline ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The cancer debate
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Frederick: Apropos the overwrought cancer issue, the protracted discussion among certain of Goanets contentious scientists has reached an ad nauseam stage. This situation has left lay people following this debate in confusion worse confounded. We, the nonscientific readership, seem to be learning more about one-upmanship than oncology in this epic battle. Alas, this debate is giving umbrage to the hitherto high esteem of scientists in general. The tone and trend of the discussion in our cyberspace suggests Goanet may be accommodating savants on a wild goose chase looking for Mickey Mouse. It has turned out to be a long drawn out imbroglio Of Mice and Men (with apologies to John Steinbeck). Lets hope a mutually satisfactory denouement unfolds soon. To all those brilliant minds involved in this raging match of wits and self-righteous breast-beating, may I remind you of the wise words of the renowned biologist Thomas Henry Huxley: The greatest tragedy of science is the slaying of a beautiful hypothesis by an ugly fact. Sincerely Arnold _ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more then map the best route! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Bellittling communal labelling
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Roland: Roger Wilco!!! You're a straight shooter. In denouncing the ugly, supercilious, hand-me-down, demeaning labelling inherited from hoity-toity colonial times, you've exposed a longstanding social evil. I fully endorse your deprecating views on the insidious practice of prejudicially calling southerners "Madrassis" generically. I witnessed it myself growing up in Mahim, Bombay in a predominantly Goan enclave or wadi. The sad part is we still perpetuate this evil parochialism today as it's innate in our social consuetude. Keep up the good work. Cheers Arnold _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Thimas Pereira, Norwegian Goan Footballer
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Goan Voice UK Dear Circulation Editor: Thank you for including me in your circulation lists. I thoroughly enjoy the synopses of Goa-related news, profiles and views you dispatch via e-mail. I draw your particular attention to the profile of Norway's stalwart footballer, Thomas Pereira, appearing in your October 26 issue. It has reproduced a purported extract from The Times of India's October 24 print. In the extract, Thomas is described as a footballer of "Goanese" descent". I hope you're aware that term "Goanese" is downright derogatory. It harkens back to the colonial days when the menial crew of Goan origin serving on British merchant vessels were classified as "Goanese" on board. As a visitor, I witnessed this personally on P&O ships. The dichotomy between "Goan" and "Goanese" should be clearly established not just as a matter of semantics but to avoid regurgitating the demeaning memories of those times. True, History cannot be rewritten or expunged but it certainly can be kept in proper perspective. We as Goans are very proud of Thomas and hope his declared ethnicity is properly identified in today's nomenclature which is unequivocally "GOAN". I hope you will pursue this item as you see fit. I request you to give me your Times of India contact's e-mail address so that I can pursue this matter further on my own too. Thank you for the excellent network news service provided. Sincerely, Arnold Noronha Wilmington, Delaware, USA Extract: Norway: Soccer: Thomas Pereira: Goan Viking 24 Oct: Times of India. Thomas Pereira, a nifty footballer of Goanese descent, has broken new ground in Norway. He plays for Viking FK, who made European headlines after sending Chelsea crashing out of UEFA Cup in 2002-03 and has represented Norway eight times Pereira says his roots go back to Benaulim in South Goa. My father was a teacher who left India for Africa in the Sixties. Later he came to Norway in 1972. My finest football moment is winning the FA Cup in 2001, he says The footballer of Goanese origin has never been to India. But that could change in future. I would like to visit India and see the place where we originally came from. Soccer-serious Goa would look forward to that. 407 words. Click here. Thomas is the son of Kirstin and Austin Pereira ( ex Masaka, Uganda). He is married to Hanne and they have three sons. For his profile click here. _ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] renewing matrimonial vows
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Bosco: Your hearty invitation to married couples to renew their vows appears romantic and laudable at first blush. Serious thought should be given to your enthusiastic and well meaning proposition especially by the bridegroom. My conservative take on your bright idea may not find unanimous agreement. Nonetheless let me give you some points to ponder in verse . Marriage is all exciting, glamorous and nice As the warm bread of life's most delicious slice To start up a family with love it's the ideal device Relatives and friends celebrate, cheer and throw rice Believing one wedding a lifetime should most suffice But when a sincere friend does eagerly try to entice You to make the very same binding commitment twice Perhaps it could turn out to be more than a terrible vice Looking for more fun, you may be throwing risky dice And be possibly in for an unwelcome spousal surprise The second time's affair, you may not hotly romanticize Also this time your mother-in-law won't say: "Be nice and gentle to my fresh daughter to night" with sighs The bride from your lusty advances no longer shies The thrill of first time lovemaking no longer applies As through lapse of wedded years the passion dies It's doubtful she'll be emotional with tears and cries Charms, lingerie and perfume she may not utilize As the yearning need for seduction does not arise and the second honeymoon could be cold as ice Cheers Arnold Noronha _ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The Goanet Moderator
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details The Goanet moderator has a long, arduous road Carrying heavy responsibilities and a big workload Into his task, his heart and soul hes gladly poured Charged with enforcing Goanets Rules and Code Created by the Founders and run by Admins synod Upholding this cyberspaces mission is never slowed To display Goas best and brightest cyberspace hoard He strives to present lavishly Goas network smorgasbord With certain powers and discretion hes readily bestowed To guard against letting the networks goals ever erode But equitably to all participants hes got to fairly afford Equal opportunity to have their e-mail posts not ignored So this Goa-related information and ideas have to be scored To let Goanetters talents and intellectual powers be showed Thus for Goas glory, valuable thoughts and actions have soared As long as the rights and views of others they dont flatly maraud On occasion with criticism a moderators demeanour is floored By disgruntled parties feeling their contributions are unfairly cored By rejections of posts that dont cut the mustard in line with code To stop flame-baits, non-Goan topics and repetitious episode Also to control flaps and abuse causing debates to badly explode Blocked to prevent the readers from being sad, offended or bored To ensure all members are royally treated and none feels like a toad And to keep the communications pleasant and interesting a la mode Most importantly to observe the organizations fine operating code While serving its 9,000 plus members proudly wherever their abode The moderator has to be smart and vigilant to avoid falling on his sword Promoting Goanets achievements with éclat and honour to be crowed Cheers Arnold _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] FW: Pedro Pokhol the hot shot(revised)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Pedro Pokhol of Panjim (a.k.a. Peter Pacheco ) had recently moved to the States. He was naturally trying to improve his status by impressing people in his new environment. Pedro used to brag regularly to his boss at work , "You know sir , I know everyone important there is to know in this world. Just name someone, I mean anyone and I know them." Tired of his boasting, his boss was determined to call his bluff, "OK, Pedro how about Tom Cruise?" "Sure, yes, Tom and I are old friends, and I can prove it." So Pedro and his boss fly out to Hollywood and knock on Tom Cruise's door, and sure enough, Tom Cruise shouts, " Pedro, Great to see you! You and your friend come right in and join me for lunch!" Although impressed, Pedro's boss was still skeptical. After they leave Cruise's house, he tells Pedro that he thinks his knowing Cruise was just lucky. "No, no, just name anyone else", Pedro says. "President Bush," his boss quickly retorts. "Yes," Pedro says, "I know him, let's fly out to Washington."And off they go. At the White House, Bush spots Pedro on the tour and motions him and his boss over, saying, "Peddyboy!!! , what a pleasant surprise, I was just on my way to a meeting in the West Wing, but you and your friend come on in to the Oval office and let's have a cup of coffee first and catch up." Well, Pedro's boss is much amazed by now, but still not totally convinced. After they leave the White House grounds, he expresses his doubts to Pedro about the completeness of his universal contacts. Thus Pokhol again invites the boss to name anyone else. "The Pope," his boss exclaims in a challenging tone. "Sure!" says Pedro. Soon Pedro and his boss are in Rome jostling through the hoi polloi assembled in Vatican Square. Then Pedro declares in frustration,"This will never work. I can't catch the Pope's eye and get his personal attention among all these masses. "Tell you what chief, I know all the Swiss guards, so just let me go upstairs and I'll come out on the balcony with the Pope. So he disappears into the crowd, headed toward the Vatican . Sure enough, half an hour later Pedro emerges with the Pope on the balcony. But by the time Pedro returns, he finds that there is a big commotion. Unfortunately his boss appears to have had a minor heart attack and is surrounded by paramedics. Working his way to his boss's side, Pedro bends over and asks him, "What happened, sir?" His boss looks up and says, " Pedro, I was doing fine until you and the Pope came out on the balcony and this white European looking stranger next to me said, " Who's that chap on the balcony with Pedro? Moral of the story - NEVER underestimate a Goan !!! _ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Left wing vs Right Wing
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Frederick: As you know, Goanet' forum can frequently become the venue of an interminable pitched battle between liberalism and rightism. Among the combatants it's apparently perceived as a free-for-all, no-holds-barred melee between adversarial forces of free-thinking vs fundamentalism. Amusing and even informative and thought-provoking the conflicts can be. However at times , the overarching ennui and sense of futility engendered by the bitter obfuscatory arguments with no end in sight tend to vitiate Goanet's cyberspace. Despite the 'best efforts' catharsis of Goanet's moderators, such squabbles seem to degenerate into cantankerous exchanges. If not stemmed and reconciled amicably, one day the outlook could resemble a medieval shrieking witches' coven on Halloween Night. It's high time some of the warring correspondents learn to differentiate between debate and dog fight, adroitness and acrimony, elegance and egotism. Hence I yield to expressing in verse deep chagrin, perplexity and concern but optimistically also hope of ultimate reconciliation. Trouble could be brewing in Goanet's cyberspace ring Hostility is rife between antagonistic left and right wings The fractious environment is beset by undesirable baiting The oxygen of Goanet's erudite and social air depleting The contest spilling over is sadly good old Goa cheating Frustrating the noble objectives envisaged in creating This wonder cyberspace concept for Goa's well being It's Fabianism vs Capitalism, one another's guts tearing Each side vigorously vying to prove it's absolute king In logic, morals and knowledge, vicious head butting As each opponent indulges in criticism and mud slinging Carping that their foe in principle and reason is ailing Making the other side, sour wiseacres and ding-a-lings Not marching in step, in cacophony different tunes sing Going at each other flailing like prize fighters in a ring With a tempest in a teacup each flap has its beginning But next lo and behold a perfect storm is fast brewing And with intense intellectual food fights they've a fling Between them there's no love lost, only lack of feeling Goanet's moderators role is to promote the right thing using a commonsense approach and to virtue appealing Hence let's all cooperate with Goanet Admin's inspiring Behind all that bewildering welter causing perspiring Secretly the two hot sides may be one another admiring Envisage an end in sight with compromise in the offing Let's import Goa's revelry with feast, dance and singing With bonhomie shake hands exchanging friendship rings Seeing peace, understanding and serenity it will bring One day let's hope this rivalry has an Utopian ending Cheers Arnold _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Mazagon Docks Ship Building
Roland: Thanks for enlightening Goanet's readers with such authoritative clarity about the warship building activity at Mazagon Docks. This kind of information deserves to be publicized more widely. It makes us denizens proud of our ancestral Homeland. It's also good to remember that in the 18th and 19th centuries the Wadias (also known as the Readymoneys) built many battleships for the British. Hence India does have a rich tradition in naval architecture and construction. Many British ships also came to Bombay for drydock repairs and overhauling to be done by the Wadias. It's rumored that even HMS Victory, Nelson's flagship in the Battle of Trafalgar, was drydocked in Bombay or Surat. You're a fountainhead of knowledge and have a well rounded perspective on history, culture and politics. I always enjoy and learn from your posts. Cheers Arnold _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Your halcyon school days in Guirim
Dear Tony: That was a very touching account of your school days in Guirim. Sanguine in its sincerity and heartwarming nostalgia, your spirit basked in the vigorous brightness of fine sensitivity dovetailed into vivid prose. You're a writer with a lot of heart who can reach down emotively into the reader's feelings and give a good sense of what typical Goan boyhood was in the '60's in the milieu of rural society and an authentic Goan home setting. The essential charm of your piece was its flow with facility graced by its simplicity, candour and lack of redundant flourish. It is easy to understand what you mean to say. Your unpretentious style sets a benchmark for maturity and decency in literary thought and word; precious qualities many can learn from you. It obviously behoves your fine upbringing and idyllic environment in your salad days. Thanks for sharing that beautiful piece on your early life with Goanet's readership. Regards Arnold _ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The sensational sari
From: "Arnold Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: the sensational sari Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:12:11 -0400 Dear Vivian: Yours is an appealing exultation of that irreplaceable dress emblem of feminity embodying grace and modesty, the Indian "sari". With pithiness you said it all, expressing your proud reverence for the beautiful, elegant garb covering the distaff side of our society. Yes, my mother and aunts wore saris too. This beautiful "wrap around" enshrining the "hand that rocks the Indian cradle" is universally unequalled and as charming as it ever gets in the female fashion world. It has stood the test of time, enduring and immutable in its majestic appearance. It's coy yet curvaceous, saintly yet seductive, prudish yet pizzazz-poised. Fashions may come and go but no haute couture can ever better this simple yet attractive and delicate feminine wear. It's the girl's get up that makes our women look like Godesses whether they be rich or poor, young or old. Overarching the finest sartorial splendour, a sari is the clinging magic that makes the manna look magnificent, be she matron, maushi or maiden. Viva La Femme!!! God bless them all. Cheers Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The Kashtti
Frederick: The hot-button issue engaging Goanet's cyberspace these days is that provocative piece of Goan manhood's pristine attire... the Kashtti. This ultimate in informality equivalent of the West's jock, while bordering on risque semi-nudity, has received a lot of attention and invoked much discussion. Hence I'll proceed to give this topic a rhyming thrust to galvanize further words of wisdom on this amusing and piquant subject. A sartorial strip of pristine masculinity is the Kashtti The prim and proper prude could find primitively nasty Backed solidly by tradition it needs no ironing for its mag Its grandeur is hardly assessable fairly by its price tag Rightly viewing the wearer as a gentleman in a ball rag By consuetude well accepted socially, his jock's no gag In tintos, agoras and other haunts on the main drag Sporting his Adam's leaf gamely though tongues wag Of maintaining seminal dress code he can stoutly brag His prestige, Modesty, Decorum and Solemnity can't sag No indecent exposure charge'll land him in a Goan Gulag Given his personality from smile and posture doesn't lag And with coconut oil and comb he's groomed his shag In any fancy dress competition, first prize he could bag Outright beating suited dandies and taking all the swag Now consider the flexibility afforded by donning this rag His agility and ease would prevail up tree, river or crag to traipse his way around he'd be a lightning fast scrag And if he suffers a Xanthippe who constantly does nag Being on his nerves and appetite a mean harrowing drag To avoid his battle-ax spouse, swiftly sleek he can zigzag His string and sac outfit is deemed a second national flag Admiring lovelorn mannas behold in him a desirable stag and how his popularity soars when attracting many a fag ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Propagation of a Falsehood
Frederick: One of Goanet's "causes celebres" in vogue these days appears to be "Propagation of a Falsehood". Observing the proceedings of this vitriolic, verbal donnybrook has piqued my appetite for bizarre belligerence and drollery. The raging polemic manifesting platitudes galore, incongruously mixed with invective and ostentatious oneupmanship has been highly provocative to the bystanding subscriber. All the putative wisdom and inspiration generated by this intellectual shenanigan, one can ill-afford to let go by the board. Ergo, at the risk of inadvertently antagonizing some as an articulate kibitzer, I take the liberty of expressing my true feelings in rhyme. In the eternal grim blood sport of fighting against Good Evil's principal weapon is the " Propagation of a Falsehood" It takes all kinds of strategies and tactics sly and lewd Twisting the facts and darkening purity to be vilely crude When lies are spread wide and the real picture is booed Astutely the Gospel of Untruth is spreading silky smooth Thru' various media and arenas when the fat is chewed Especially using swift Internet, slick, devious and shrewd For that could be the clever old Devil's poisonous fast food These mass false disseminations are devices to support screwed Egotistic theories, fads and ideologies with fanaticism spewed To promote prejudice, special interests and power that's wooed That could all be highly offensive and sound unfair to the prude And could put the truth crusaders in an awfully unsavoury mood Hence exposing such devious misrepresentations definitely should Be an absolute necessity to have such skullduggery withstood Hence let's muster the Knights of Cyberspace valiant and good For gone are the days of yore when we could count on Robin Hood Cheers Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The magic of Xenn
Dear Dominic: Cordial thanks for your heartwarming account of life in Goa with the focus on "Xenn". I'm impressed by your bucolic humility and sense of nostalgia. You're a genuine dyed-in-the-wool "Son of the Soil". You earn bonus points for inserting equivalent Konkani words strategically in your vivid descriptions of housing construction and maintenance. This is a lovely "no-holds-barred" expose on important aspects of life in Goa. The clean rustic charm of your article is something I'll cherish for a long time. I look forward to reading more of your sweet recollections of good old Goa. An article on Goan social customs would be most welcome. It's one of the main reasons I became a member of Goanet. Regards and best wishes. Sincerely Arnold Noronha Wilmington, Delaware, USA ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Your characterizaton of local Goans
Dear Mike: This refers to your post appearing in Goanet on October 4. While commending your enthusiasm and genuine interest in Goa's prosperity and good name, I take exception to your maligning indigenous Goans for being lackadaisical and disinterested in the goings-on in their Homeland. As I understand from reliable sources, many locals feel disenfranchised i.e. overwhelmed, overrun and under seige from aliens, hostile elements and exploitative special interests who ignore the core welfare of Goa. Their xenophobia is augmented by a sense of feeling dispossessed of their exclusive rights, entitlements and recognition as their unalienable inheritance. They believe they've been unfairly denied as the residuals of the original Goan population who chose to stay home through all the vicissitudes of Goa's chequered history and its vagaries of fortune and social changes, come hell or high water. Some of the other reasons for their apparent low morale are enumerated as follows. The consensus of our fellow home Goinkars opine they don't have good Government to protect them and run the affairs of state well. It is claimed the extraordinary "post-Lusitanian" era growth has not been properly planned and regulated. They fear Goa's seminal way of life and culture is being ravaged and the original Goan identity is fast disintegrating. It's contended the politics of Goa is in pandemonium and the law and order situation is deplorable. They also complain corruption is rampant. I could go on ad infinitum with this reported litany of Goa's woes and apparently unsurmountable problems engendered by chaotic conditions. Ergo, the "Last of the Mohicans" have apparently developed stoic indifference and pathetic fatalism predicated on a dismal sense of abject hopelessness. You probably know much more about the real prevailing state of affairs than I do. I appreciate your valour and loyalty to the Motherland by going down to our ancestral abode to make your presence felt. Granted you're a genuine corker, putting your money where your mouth is, I doubt you can catalyze the local inhabitants to action merely by harsh criticism. Visiting Goa and trying to help directly through social interaction as you're doing is the way to go. Let's be more sympathetic and understanding, senor so that your " Goan patriotism/fealty" can be more effective. Incidentally, I'm a denizen of Goan extract, now a citizen of the USA. I visited Goa only once 55 years ago. I'll never forget the genuine deep affection, boundless hospitality, honesty, piety and rich culture, especially in music that I witnessed among our Goan people back home. It was a beautiful, halcyon environment I enjoyed immensely. And the best of all, the fishing, coconut and mango tree climbing and cashew bulb gathering were the "icing on the cake". Keep up the good work. Have a great trip to Goa. Viva Goa!!! Sincerely Arnold Noronha Wilmington, Delaware, USA. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] FW: RE: PONNOS (Pake v/s Agullim)
From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Arnold Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: PONNOS (Pake v/s Agullim) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 23:10:39 +0100 (BST) >thanks. >Waghot we say vagullim or agullim and the same name for a type of fish with >long tail >(vagullea sole -dried fish very coomon with Goan para or paro. > >Thanks once again for your words. > > >--- Arnold Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >- > >Joe: > >Thanks for the clarification and the nice lesson on Goa's biology. Your >superb ability to >explain the Goa environment in terms of natural life is pleasing and >valuable. Is there much >of Nature left after all the indiscriminate development without regard for >Ecology these days? >What I hear is alarming and sad. Badly planned industrial growth and >overpopulation are >ruining the natural beauty of Goa I hear. > >In conclusion, I'm assuming that the Waghot is the same as the Agullim. > >Regards > >Arnold > > > > >- > >From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Arnold Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, goanet@goanet.org, >goanet@lists.goanet.org >Subject: RE: PONNOS (Pake v/s Agullim) >Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 21:36:24 +0100 (BST) > >Thanks a lot for your lovely feedback. > > > > Yes, you are right. By quoting PAKE I was refering 'agullem ou >agullim' the one seen in > >churches, banana ghello/top, Anteram, Antonam, Anona, Zagma, chickoo, >Peram, Zam etc. > > However, pake also seen eating small fruits like jagma. Once we put a >net (kanttalli) > >around the Jagomi Tree to trap agullinm and next monring we saw not only >trapped agullim but > >two medium size pake and a green bird (kukur) too. > > Such agullim (bats) also seen in caves or bumyar/tunnels as in Raschol >Seminary(Raitura). > > > > However, most prefer saying PAKE when it is actually agullim/bats. > > > >Agullim and Pake only seen during the night as I thing they are blind >during the day as in > >owl. > > > >Pake/Agullim are Mammals (they don't lay eggs like birds) > > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] PONNOS
Joe: Thanks for that excellent repertoire of derivatives from "ponnos". You're doing more for the propagation of Goan harmony, culture and cuisine, and ultimately Goan pride, than all the sensational and invidious platitudes and acrimonious diatribes published ad nauseam. Your enlightening etymological throwbacks are fascinating especially when you link genuine Goan customs and patois endemically. I wish you could delight Goanet's readership consistently with a systematized compilation of your precious knowledge and interpretation of various facets of seminal Goan culture. It could include the fine arts, the culinary science and leading personalities from all walks with focus on culture and fine arts. If serialized it would facilitate Goanetters absorbing and digesting your fine presentations more effectively. I'm really enjoying what you give us readers. There's one item I'd like you to clarify. I always thought the "Bat" (flying fox) was called "Waghot". But you have referred to this airborne creature as "Pake". Is "Waghot" the larger version of the "Bat" or is the terminology/diction modified regionally.? If cooked by expert "cusneres", I can attest the resulting delicacy makes an excellent "amot tickh", mouth watering hot curry that will knock your socks off. Keep up the good work. Your contributions are a dignified and unique breath of fresh air in Goanet's cyberspace. Please give us more!!! Cheers Arnold > >>-- > >> >What ponnos ? > >Path Ponnos, Nirponnos, Katteam Ponnos, Rosal Ponnos, Kapo Ponnos, Borkoi >Ponnos ?? > >KAPO (in Bardes) the same is BORKOI in Shashtti >ROSALL in Bardes the same is just PONNOS in Shastti > >NIR-PONNOS in Bardes the same is PATH-PONNOS in Shastti > >So, what is katteam Ponnos ? >This is another variety of Ponnos. >Green in colour (little yellowish when riped) about 1 foot long and about >half foot wide >Inside is all while like cotton but juicy >Taste sour & Sweet >Most people don't eat it. >But it is my favourite, chill it for sometimes before eating 'Hobodda >Lagota' > >Some people call it 'Paum' (bread) yet some call it 'nir-ponnos' >The fruit attracts 'pake' (bats) >Usually June-July-August i think >Any body remember this ? > > >Other related terms/words about PONNOS >Ponnsa pana Viddi (cigar with leaf) >Ponnsa pana Folle (Sweet dish, funnel shape) >Ponnsa moder (Wood-Chairs, table etc) >Ponnsa Ghore >Ponnsa Bhiknamm (nuts) >Ponnsa Char >Ponnsa Pank/dhink (Gum -use to trap parrots etc) >Ponnsa Sattam (again, my favourite) > >Some related sayings: >Daddoun pikoilolea ponnsak ghost asoan >Ponnos kitloi dapun dovor, tacho vas eilea xivai ravona >Nak nak mun voklem deddxem ghore khaile >Pott bhorlem munntorich ghore ambott ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Minguel Rod
Dear Veronica: Thanks for that splendid narrative on Minguel Rod. Appearing in Goanet, the graphic visceral account of his life with all its pathos read like a Greek tragedy. With your prodigious contribution on his 51st death anniversary, probably many have been impressed by his thespian genius. Based on your vivid expose, Senor Rod has remarkable semblance to a kind of Don Quixote with his Sancho Panza played by Young Menezes. Maybe the hallucinatory effects of his constant inebriety endowed Minguel the Maestro with the psychedelic inspiration to produce his masterpieces. If swayed by the quality of his theatrical works, the protagonists of Konkani should seriously contemplate starting a movement to get his important masterpieces translated into English. We have precedents in Edward J. Fitzgerald's translation of the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam that made the Persian genius world famous. Goa has a number of scholars who are well versed in both the Konkani and English languages. Let's get organizations like Sudharop to sponsor and organize funding for these translations of at least his magnum opus, so that the world can enjoy this humdinger's marvellous theatre output. Promoting Minguel's plays outside Goa through an universally known language could make the bon vivant World more aware of Goa's charming environment, unique classical culture and abundant talent. Burning bright, his gems will also be an excellent way to give Konkani international recognition as a language to be reckoned with. Ultimately, his legacy could help foster badly needed uniformity in our "lingua franca" and provide the vindication of Konkani's status as a "language" in the Indian Constitution. Regards Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The furore over consuming dog's meat
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. So what's all the big hullabaloo about canine cuisine? The apparent fastidious discernment about what we Goans eat is utterly perplexing. I remember enjoying delicious hot "waghot" curry in India. If my shamefully limited Konkani vocabulary is recalled accurately, "waghot" means bat (or flying fox, euphemistically). This Goan delicacy was eagerly sought from night hunters who used shotguns with buckshot or airguns to bag their prey. When preparing this exquisite Goan recipe dish one had to be meticulous about carving out the entrails carefully or the sparse meat would get irretrievably spoilt. Now mind you this gourmet fare was rumored to be served at middle class dinner tables with pride and joy to entertain special guests. I kid you not!!!. So if we notoriously carnivorous Goans do graduate(or degenerate) to relishing dog meat down the road it should not surprise anyone at all. While getting inured to the litany of Goa's problems, all the bellyaching about the menace of aggressive strays loitering around the streets of Goa brazenly takes the cake. Ergo, it's logical to think seriously of culling the dog population in Goa drastically. Propelling a proposed organized move to dispose of these mongrels is the stream of reports that they frequently growl at and bite our peaceful, law-abiding God-fearing (and Atheists too ) Goan citizens without provocation. This outrageous canine appetite for Goan flesh is absolutely unacceptable and needs to be curbed forthwith. Fie upon you bleeding heart liberals; the death penalty must be reinstated at least for errant dogs. Let's have neither lassitude nor lugubriously lament departed "Lassie"!!!. Now let's also consider the commercial potential of this plethora of the dog population in Goa. Setting up abattoirs to handle dog slaughter could relieve Goa's purportedly high unemployment problem. This abundant blessing in disguise could also be a gold mine for our exports especially to China. We already have a thriving export market for chickens and frog legs, so why not dogs too? Our offer to supply the Red Dragon prime cuts of dog meat will bring precious goodwill, promote international amity, and most importantly, earn valuable foreign exchange. Mind you, 2006 is the Year of the Dog in China and should be propitious for Goa and India too. The insatiable demand for dog meat cannot be easily satisfied. The Chinese have epicurean restaurants specializing in dog meat dishes and would welcome our slaking their eager appetites for this prize flesh. To boot, it's an opportune time to revive "Hindi-Chini bhai-bhai" as long as our Yellow race North-eastern neighbours don't cross the McMahon line again without official invitation. With a burning question I begin this prologue Why is it so ghastly to eat the flesh of the dog? Does this hitherto exotic diet make one a golliwog? Goans love to dine on chicken, beef, bat and frog Conceding between dog and pig, there's no analogue Of course nothing compares to sorpatel from hog Called "dukor" affectionately in our native brogue In days gone by it provided yeoman service in our bogs Alas, roving canines now our streets menace and clog Roaming freely in any weather, rain, shine, and fog With impunity the public they chase and bite agog Let's pray in church, temple, mosque and synagogue That many Goans don't end up the gloomy morgue So the time is ripe these tail wagging canines to flog Now I end this anti-dog verse with a grim epilogue Expressed in royal Konkani for them we have no "mogh" Curb them with carnage, no mourning with black togs If we Goans want to freely walk, stagger, run and jog Can we afford to let our beloved land go to the dogs? Cheers Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] FW: The furore over consuming dog's meat
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. From: "Arnold Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The furore over consuming dog's meat Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:07:13 -0400 Frederick: So what's all the big hullabaloo about canine cuisine? The apparent fastidious discernment about what we Goans eat is utterly perplexing. I remember enjoying delicious hot "waghot" curry in India. If my shamefully limited Konkani vocabulary is recalled accurately, "waghot" means bat (or flying fox, euphemistically). This Goan delicacy was eagerly sought from night hunters who used shotguns with buckshot or airguns to bag their prey. When preparing this exquisite Goan recipe dish one had to be meticulous about carving out the entrails carefully or the sparse meat would get irretrievably spoilt. Now mind you this gourmet fare was rumored to be served at middle class dinner tables with pride and joy to entertain special guests. I kid you not!!!. So if we notoriously carnivorous Goans do graduate(or degenerate) to relishing dog meat down the road it should not surprise anyone at all. While getting inured to the litany of Goa's problems, all the bellyaching about the menace of aggressive strays loitering around the streets of Goa brazenly takes the cake. Ergo, it's logical to think seriously of culling the dog population in Goa drastically. Propelling a proposed organized move to dispose of these mongrels is the stream of reports that they frequently growl at and bite our peaceful, law-abiding God-fearing(and Atheists too ) Goan citizens without provocation. This outrageous canine appetite for Goan flesh is absolutely unacceptable and needs to be curbed forthwith. Fie upon you bleeding heart liberals; the death penalty must be reinstated at least for errant dogs. Let's have neither lassitude nor lugubriously lament departed "Lassie"!!!. Now let's also consider the commercial potential of this plethora of the dog population in Goa. Setting up abattoirs to handle dog slaughter could relieve Goa's purportedly high unemployment problem. This abundant blessing in disguise could also be a gold mine for our exports especially to China. We already have a thriving export market for chickens and frog legs, so why not dogs too? Our offer to supply the Red Dragon prime cuts of dog meat will bring precious goodwill, promote international amity, and most importantly, earn valuable foreign exchange. Mind you, 2006 is the Year of the Dog in China and should be propitious for Goa and India too. The insatiable demand for dog meat cannot be easily satisfied. The Chinese have epicurean restaurants specializing in dog meat dishes and would welcome our slaking their eager appetites for this prize flesh. To boot, it's an opportune time to revive "Hindi-Chini bhai-bhai" as long as our Yellow race North-eastern neighbours don't cross the McMahon line again without official invitation. With a burning question I begin this prologue Why is it so ghastly to eat the flesh of the dog? Does this hitherto exotic diet make one a golliwog? Goans love to dine on chicken, beef, bat and frog Conceding between dog and pig, there's no analogue Of course nothing compares to sorpatel from hog Called "dukor" affectionately in our native brogue In days gone by it provided yeoman service in our bogs Alas, roving canines now our streets menace and clog Roaming freely in any weather, rain, shine, and fog With impunity the public they chase and bite agog Let's pray in church, temple, mosque and synagogue That many Goans don't end up the gloomy morgue So the time is ripe these tail wagging canines to flog Now I end this anti-dog verse with a grim epilogue Expressed in royal Konkani for them we have no "mogh" Curb them with carnage, no mourning with black togs If we Goans want to freely walk, stagger, run and jog Can we afford to let our beloved land go to the dogs? Cheers Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] FW: RE: Escaped women prisoners
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. From: "Arnold Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Goanet-news] Goanet News Headlines: Sept 18,2006: Margao municipality seeks help for maintaining century-oldbuilding Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 01:21:13 -0400 >Frederick: >It is intriguing to learn that 7 fallen daughters of Eve escaped from a >Goan penitentiary in Merces by removing the roof tiles of their Protective >custody facility. Using verse, I would like to express my amazement at >their initiative and gall to get past the prison guards. I wonder whether >they were eventually caught and returned to their destined premises. > > >Displaying guts and employing rare guile >The redoubtable seven removed roof tiles >In order to get away, then hopefully resile >Jumping beyond the prison walls in a pile >These naughty ones must use their wiles >As they flee the law for many a desperate mile >To get to the badlands beyond the police revile >and have a chance their burdensome chains to file >Their bold actions may seem rash and infantile >But caged inside they abhorred the harsh domicile >Deciding to dash hard for Freedom after a while >The Dreams of Liberty engaging their minds fertile >But alas if caught to the possibility will they reconcile >By the time they ever got out again they'd be senile? > >The Goanet News headlines are interesting. They give a realistic flavour of >what transpires in the Motherland and the daily trends of life on the Goan >scene. From the above news item is one to infer there's a rise in female >criminal activity? Also are the prison systems understaffed? >Keep up the good work. >Cheers >Arnold Noronha ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet News Headlines: Sept 18, 2006: Margao municipality seeks help for maintaining century-old building
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Frederick: It is intriguing to learn that 7 fallen daughters of Eve escaped from a Goan penitentiary in Merces by removing the roof tiles of their Protective custody facility. Using verse, I would like to express my amazement at their initiative and gall to get past the prison guards. I wonder whether they were eventually caught and returned to their destined premises. Displaying guts and employing rare guile The redoubtable seven removed roof tiles In order to get away, then hopefully resile Jumping beyond the prison walls in a pile These naughty ones must use their wiles As they flee the law for many a desperate mile To get to the badlands beyond the police revile and have a chance their burdensome chains to file Their bold actions may seem rash and infantile But caged inside they abhorred the harsh domicile Deciding to dash hard for Freedom after a while The Dreams of Liberty engaging their minds fertile But alas if caught to the possibility will they reconcile By the time they ever got out again they'd be senile? The Goanet News headlines are interesting. They give a realistic flavour of what transpires in the Motherland and the daily trends of life on the Goan scene. From the above news item is one to infer there's a rise in female criminal activity? Also are the prison systems understaffed? Keep up the good work. Cheers Arnold Noronha ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Inconvenient truths about Goa,2006...
Dear Dr Giese: I enthusiatically commend your "Jeremiad" exposing Goa's extant woes. It's wonderful that US denizens have a vibrant organization such as "Goa Sudharop" to campaign for preservation of the unique culture of this fairyland Konkan coastal enclave. It is indeed a extraordinary blended amalgam of Indian and Portuguese cultures that's worth striving to enshrine for posterity. Apart from the malaises and adverse trends astutely identified by you, I see two major impediments. One is the language problem. In elevating Konkani to the august status of a "Language" we are putting the cart before the horse. Let's first develop the vital and credible credentials to qualify it as such. As far as I know, we have not yet even agreed on an uniform official script. Language is a endemically a powerful unifying force. Finance scholarships and organize institutions to create harmoniously a viable and universally acceptable "linga franca" using the minds and resources of all linguistically interested parties in Goa. This may look like pie in the sky but I sincerely believe it's a sine qua non to establish a truly monolithic identity for Goa as a cultural and social entity. It will foster unity within Goa's diversity and give Goa's people and its administration a solid foundation to plan and execute a proper blueprint for the present and future. Another item for consideration is residency restrictions in the geography of Goa. Draconian measures if necessary by visa (with strict time limits) and other means should be imposed on residents who are not domiciled. True Goa is now a Union State and interstate freedom of movement is guaranteed under India's "Republic and Democratic" constitution. But a high tariff on non-Goans would not only be a great revenue generator but would also discourage non-bona fide entrants. Of course that would lead to clearly defining the dichotomy between Goans and non-Goans and could open a Pandora's box. I aver measures like this will help regulate Goa's uncontrolled and "overburgeoning" population and at least decelerate total dilution of its moribund ethnicity. I wish we could use applicable parts of the models of suzerainties like Monaco and Hong Kong to craft Goa's political, social and economic infrastructure for the lasting benefit of Goa and India. The immense problems you have enumerated in able Cassandra-like fashion are formidable and credible. As stalwart evangelists for Goa's cause, Goa Sudharop is wished all the best in your noblesse oblige. Sincerely Arnold Noronha ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The concept of a "lie"
Pursuant to the recent flap arising out of differences of opinion over the personality and political philosophy of Hitler , Frederick assumed the role of moderator. He resorted to tapping Wikipedia for a comprehensive meaning of the word "lie" in order to put the at times visceral arguments into proper perspective. This post in verse attempts to augment Frederick's enlightening views. In the context of debate framing Hitler as a bad guy Spinning acronym, synonym and elucidation Fred did try To reveal the appearance, essence and anatomy of a LIE Delving in its shape, structure, and implications let's pry It's misrepresentation, libel, canard, trying to get by Deviously misstating facts that make the Truth look wry Saying falsehoods prime facie Biblical people will decry ranked with the seven deadly sins it's a very close tie The 8th precept of the Decalogue to judge strictly by A lie deserves punishment where in Hot Hell we'll fry If caught, one would make every prude say "my oh my" Of course plainly the moralist's reaction is to say "Fie" Consider extenuating circumstances ere to judge we fly for dodging the Truth one may have a plausible alibi when unfettered imagination conjured has gone awry embellishing the truth 'till it appears unbelievably sly Is it devious subterfuge that bad when hiding an ally? Or discretely suppressing Truth in confidentiality a lie? Some facts undressed could make us redfaced to decry So does dodging the truth when good intentions imply for reasons of national security and pledges kept high Are such secrets undisclosed by exigency per se a lie? A bride on her wedding night sweet innocence does ply Using discretion to keep connubial calm appearing shy Would you query her comport on the bed she does lie? In the gamut of Evils when pure Veracity is not nigh yes, to terminological inexactitude it is a close ally Yet are backbiting, gossip, ugly censure not worse Sin by any standards of morality and decency to comply? When Malice's deleterious hurt makes Mankind's spirit die Then let's rather bid inhumane Truth a hearty goodbye Cheers Arnold Noronha ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Sainthood Still A Long Way For Mother Teresa
Frederick: The impending canonization of the Blessed Mother Teresa is a matter of serious concern to many of us. Her formal elevation to the pedestal of Roman Catholic Hagiology will be a crowning moment in the History of the Church. We live in troubled times and it is appropriate that we honor holy and worthy personages with accolades in a timely manner where fully deserved. It is an effective way to promote peace and harmony in the world. I'm very pleased you're proactively promoting the cause of " The Saint of the Gutters". It's long overdue. Her missionary zeal ranks with the great St Francis Xavier's. It seems people of other religious denominations have given the Church the lead in giving this humdinger of a humanitarian in the name of Christ her rightful place in the Book of Saints. We hope and pray the process of canonization of Mother Teresa will be handled with greater alacrity and enthusiasm for the sake of the Church and Humanity. Her highest veneration is for the Glory of Christ. It took the Church over 500 years to canonize St Joan of Arc. Let's hope we don't have to endure undue procrastination in case of Mother Teresa. Honor delayed is honor denied. Sincerely Arnold Noronha -- Read all Goanet messages @ http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] For Arnold...
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Frederick: It's regrettable I couldn't get through to you with "Plain Text" script. I'm going to try again. The last time I tapped my "send" copy to transmit. This time I'm typing a original in that is inherent in this note. Yes, thanks I did receive your kind invitation to use G-mail. As a last resort, I'll take advantage of your offer. My daughter who is out of town could probably help me. I don't want to bother you unnecessarily. You plate is already full. Thanks for your and Bosco's enthusiastic support. Here it goes!!! Regards Arnold From: "Frederick \"FN\" Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arnold Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: "Bosco - Goanet Volunteer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Viviana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Herman Carneiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: For Arnold... Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:07:06 +0530 >Sorry Arnold, It's not coming through in plaintext. I suggest you >create and use a Gmail account to post to Goanet. Please... > >Did you get the Gmail invite I sent? FN > >Bosco: I'm >trying to transmit to you in PLAIN TEXTagain, using the instructions >provided on the website incorporated in your note. I tried before but >could not send the message intended. Hiope this works. >The limitation here is I can barely read what I've written. >Consequently, I can easliy make spelling and other errors. >Hope the transmission works this time. Let me know whether >it was properly received and acceptable in the desired form for >reproduction in Goanet. Hopefully it does work this time and we're all >set to go. >Cheers >Arnold > >-- >--- >Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 >http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] The Passing of Pluto
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. The current astronomical tempest in a tea cup over reneging of Pluto's august status as a planet in our solar system seems to have set our Goaneters agog like the Tower of Babel. Considering the hullabaloo, the world could easily get the impression that a Saligao star gazer or a Panjim peeper hit the jackpot in 1930 to first discover this Johnny-come-lately in our solar system's visible ambit of planets. In this homespun elegy, an attempt is made to ponder the humbling loss of this dwarf planet's hierarchical status in our solar planetary system's ennead. Astronomers have abjured the status that was Pluto's (of course its juxtaposition to the Sun is not close) Little darling of a planet must have felt its heart froze The powers-that-be did their omniscient Will impose Among giant constellations Pluto's with the minnows As a major Heavenly body the dwarf can no longer pose In the garden of recognized and watched spatial shows It's now a downtrodden celestial weed not a sweet rose Alas like tides, the prestige of everything ebbs and flows Now certain afficionados this drastic demotion oppose Lamenting the dethronement like weeping widows Denied galactic respect Pluto's every fan well knows to them is like saying wood does not contain cellulose They're really absolutely outraged while being morose And don't intend to take it lying down flat comatose Believing to spite the face, hasty ones did bite the nose The mean arbitrary injustice they seek to hotly expose If the interplanetary torn fabric to mend one sows using persuasion's thread, not an attitude bellicose to find a solution without stepping on one another's toes It could take this planetary spat is as far as it goes and as the strife between opposing parties grows like happy Goans let's retire to tavern of Flo's and Joe's and while carousing find out the cruxes' cons and pros checking thru' fake telescopes, if Pluto still hopeful glows but if our pseudo-starlet no movement legally restores To our petite cynosure let's reluctantly say tearful adieus In requiem Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Plutoed - my hopes for salvation
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. It is observed that Goanet is rampant with unsavory diatribes, personal attacks and put-downs which tend to vitiate the quality of debates and deflect the focus from the real issues. If Goanet's "post" circle can be compared in hyperbole to the Knights of the Round Table we have way too many Modreds and not enough Lancelots and Galahads. Let's make the environment more benign in order to avoid the appearance of animosity. In GoaNet's august word exchangeMart when opinions and facts are far apart let's avoid vile language hurtful and tart hurling affront and slur like a vicious dart for such behavior belittles Writing's Art Cheers Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Gonadians
Hello Frederick: As a recent subscriber to GoaNet's posting service and related e-activities, I have perused with delight and interest the daily debates between the intellectual giants and mavens who seem to often think of each other as wiseacres in the heat of battle. In my opinion, the current "WW III" between certain correspondents over the "Gonadian" coinage has turned out to be a titanic clash of egos, generating more heat than light. To bring levity to this conflict, I offer the following doggerel. It is not intended to offend anyone. Certain Goan immigrants to Canada show deep outrage At the audacity of a seemingly derogatory coinage When the Maple Leaf Land's denizens, some envisage As "Gonadians" thus inevitably setting the hot stage For conflict with invidious debate and verbal rampage Battle lines are drawn between opponents for vantage anent this unflatteringly viewed hybrid, not of badinage an alliance of abridgement and manipulation to enrage using a misaligned derivative skewed for anchorage to create this seeming perversity of modern Goan age Sad future for Goan's foreign identities some presage The final outcome could be really difficult to guage The debaters assail each other with contending verbiage Mercilessly, the foes each others reputations pillage It's now friend vs friend, village against village They're uncompromisingly not on the same page The threatened antagonists feel their Goan heritage Has been tainted and cast under a diaspora umbrage And acrimonious war as foes they must vigorously wage Ferociously like lions and tigers in GoaNet's e-cage In futile polemics over ethnic nomenclature engage To resolve this dispute, if we consulted a revered sage Who's wise, impartial, respected and of old vintage He'd shake his head in dismay wondering about this rage Grimly querying rhetorically,with candour and courage "Is a Toronto hotdog different from a Goa sausage?" Viva Goa!!! Arnold Noronha ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The language question in Goa
That was one gem of an expose on the linguistics embroglio in Goa. This is the first time I've read a perspicuous unravelling of this complicated subject. Do we have a language pandemonium or what? You've astutely explained the Goa language brouhaha in the light of so many factors and forces.cultural, religious, historical and regional, etc. What you have produced is nothing short of a "piece-de-resistance". Bravo!!! You can write. After the day is done what is it that the language advocates on all sides of this debate are really trying to achieve? If they're truly worried about Goa surviving, nay thriving, in the modern world and the future, let's be realistic. When are they going to shed their differences and prejudices be they regional, religion-based, caste-derived or cultural for the common good of India and Goa in particular? To the outsider it appears the contending parties concerned are missing the forest because of the trees. Metaphorically, Goa is a gold mine from so many aspects. I hope the good inhabitants of this lovely land will stop dissipating their energies and resources in this futile controversy and give common sense, harmony and true patriotism a fighting chance. Yes, I'm fascinated by the lilt of Konkani and its bucolic charm and idiom and hope it's preserved ad infinitum to perpetuate Goa's and the Konkan's rich culture and heritage. But let's not lose sight of reality. Let's get the protagonists to develop it's classical literature regardless of the script used. That's the best way to initiate its universal recognition. Give the world a Shakespeare, a Cervantes, a Hemingway, a Jane Austen in the Konkani language. Then have these works translated into the leading languages of the world starting with English. That's the best way to answer the critics of this charming language honoured recently with recognition in the Indian constitution. Politics alone cannot do it, but literary genius and hard work can. As a reputed maven of cyberspace and an excellent writer in the English medium, I hope you can convince fellow Goans back home to sink their differences and realize that only by adopting and promoting a uniform language of international stature with a technical and expanding vocabulary can we make true progress. Multiculturism in a harmonious environment should by no means be suppressed but should not be confused with fissiparous divisions that could only lead to jingoism and ultimately disintegration. Keep up the good work. Sincerely Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Tragic drownings in Goa
Dear Frederick: I'm utterly dismayed about the tragic spate of recent drownings in Goa reported in the Goanet news yesterday. Drownings during the monsoon on the Konkan coast are not a frequent occurrence resulting from Mother Nature's natural turbulence in the Indian Ocean. Those who venture forth into the sea for recreational purposes are generally not familiar with local conditions. The visiting public should be warned of the potential hazards lurking in the waters especially during the rainy season. I'm surprised there's no mention of life guards and life boats for rescue missions at popular beaches. Are there any warning signs posted on the beaches used by tourists?. The local inhabitants are normally aware of the prevailing dangers and go out generally for commercial purposes only, weather conditions reasonably permitting. Living in Mahim, Mumbai near the beach as a young boy, I did go swimming with my friends once in a while when the sea was relatively calm i.e. the waves were not huge and violent during the monsoons. And despite our cautious attitudes, I did get towed away sometimes but managed to get back to land safely. We were lucky we escaped mishaps. Of course, my parents were absolutely not aware of our juvenile follies or we would have not been allowed to expose ourselves to such dangers. There are several other cases of swimmers who fell fatal victims to the cruelty of the sea. I strongly recommend that Goanet, as an influential news service and powerful opinion disseminator, should launch a serious and consistent safety campaign to prevent further loss of lives through drownings. Keep up the good work. Regards to your family Sincerely Arnold Noronha ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Protecting Goa's environment.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. As a US expatriate and recently enrolled reader of the Goanet news, your publication reports tremendous development projects planned and executed in Goa. I am interested to know what safeguards are currently in place to preserve the natural beauty, historic monuments, cultural milieu, etc. and to promote balanced regulated growth and prevent environmental pollution and sociological disruptions. Does the Goa Government have bodies like the USA's Environmental Protection Agency with mandated rules and regulations and related administrators with statutory enforcement powers?. Are public hearings held on social and environment impact of development and new business( such as SEZ) projects? I've not yet observed reports of such activities. Please let me know whether there are other internet sources devoted to this area. . I enjoy reading Goanet's coverage daily. It opens an engrossing and enlightening window to keep abreast of Goa's and the rest of India's important current events. Sincerely Arnold ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Query about: S.S. Ramdas
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Mr Fernandes: Thank you for your valuable input into the sinking of the Ramdas. You have helpfully corroborated your story with an extract from the "Times of India". In the bargain, you've also cleared the cobwebs from my memory about the exact date and location of this coastal plying vessel's sinking mishap. It's also interesting to note the passengers were not predominantly Goan. You have also dispelled a misimpression I had about the Ramdas being called the the "Queen of the Konkan Coast" by Mumbai's proletariat. I do remember vaguely the illfated ship went down during the early part of the monsoon season. I understand, notwithstanding the Indian Ocean's monsoon-related hazards facing small ships, short voyages may have been made infrequently if storms were not imminent. I wonder whether we can get more information about this tragedy from the ship's owners and the Bombay Port Trust. Your thorough research is commendable. I looked up "Google" too some time ago but did not have your alertness. Your find is definitely enlightening. Regards Sincerely Arnold >-- Forwarded message -- >From: Eddie Fernandes >To: goanet@goanet.org > >There are brief reports of the tragedy in The Times (UK) of Jul 18 >and >19 1947. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] SS Ramdas
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Mr Menezes: I'm obliged to you for enlightening me on the tragic happening of the S.S. Ramdas's stormy dispatch to Davy Jones's locker. Hitherto, the chequered, variegated sea career of this sunken vessel was buried in relative oblivion. Thanks to your friend, the venerable Admiral Nair's vivid memories, your fascinating revelations caused this interesting vignette of a part of naval history to be brought forth. By authorship, I sincerely hope someone of yours or the Admiral's calibre would take the initiative to recount this Event and related happenstances. The media used could be our esteemed "GoaNet" with permanent enshrinement maybe in "Google" later. It would not only give the redoubtable ship its rightful place in naval History but also pay a proper tribute to the unfortunate departed that went down with the Ramdas. I clearly remember the November 22 cyclone that hit Bombay. I vaguely recall it was accompanied by record rainfall of something like 24 inches in 36 hours. However Hitherto, I didn't connect the Ramdas's sinking with this awesome cyclone. I always thought they were two separate occurrences. I'm glad you straightened me out. Once again, thank you very much. Sincerely Arnold Noronha Wilmington, Delaware, USA. --- - From: "gilbert menezes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SS Ramdas Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 18:07:15 +0530 >Arnold, >I have a friend, Admiral KR Nair, now retired , aged 91, but still >with an exceptionally lucid memory. He told me that HMIS Ramdas was >a >converted merchantman which was fitted with guns and based at Bombay >during World War 2. He served on the ship as a young officer and >has >many interesting tales to tell about this ship, during the war. >After >the war, the ship , now known as SS Ramdas, reverted to the Bombay >Steam Navigation Company, and was deployed on the bombay-Goa route. >The ship capsized and sank without survivors during a cyclonic >storm, >off Khanderi Island, which is just outside Bombay. >Im not sure about the date of the mishap, but it could be 22 nov >1949, >because that is the date a large cyclone storm caused a lot of >damage >at bombay. The ship was a small one, about the sizes of SS Rohidas >and St. Anthony, so there could not have been a thousand people on >board, more likely a couple of hundred. >regards, >Gilbert Menezes. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] RE George Menezes' July 21 Expose on Mumbai
Dear Mr Menezes: I'm appalled to read your gripping article on the dismal state of affairs prevailing in my native city,good old Mumbai. For a moment I thought you were living in Iraq or Lebanon today and describing the pandemonium that reigns in those territories. Having had the pleasureof reading a marvellous anthology of humorous anecdotes authored by you, I'm shocked to read your Jeremiad on our beloved city. Your subject piece published in "Goanet's" July 21 edition is a stark antithesis of what I have enjoyed from your fine satirical and humorous pen. Your great happy-go-lucky, military spirit that hitherto exuded bonhomie, sportmanship and optimism seems to have suffered a severe battering. I commiserate with your frustrations and deep concerns. It's sad that mavens with your staunch patriotism and civic-mindedness feel hopelessly discouraged at times. Wishing you all the best in your heroic endeavours to "clean the Augean stables" in your neck of the woods, Respectfully Arnold Noronha Wilmington, Delaware, Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
