Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Bad or good... the most influential ofthe decade (Dr Oscar Rebello, Goan Observer)
YOUR list of most influential persons, with or without deliberations and your personal bias, omits a few defintely important persons/situations that I, a goan for over 55 years, but an outsider looking inside for over 50 years, would claim as being strongly influential in the past decade: 1. That scoundrel, that policician, that possible saint to the poor, that football team owner: I forget his name, but the Salcette Goans would know him from a mile away. He, I would say, based on numerous news and goannet emails, undeniably loathed and/or loved, for what he did/does and for what he said/says. and yet getting to the big politcal seat in New Delhi, ( still do not know how that terminated!) via the post as Goa Chief Minister, and the always available seat as a politican, whichever party he happens to want to represent at the time of an election! and he, therefore needs to be reckoned up there in the top 10 list. 2.. Goan football. for its coming of age and putting its boot-print on the Indian soccer scene, which should have been so, many, many ages ago. After all, were we not trainees under Europes power-house of soccer: Portugal?. 3. this may be the new decade, but the Colva Catholic agitation against one of its own; somehow, I pity this scenario, this susegad-no-more lifestyle of the Goan. For good or bad, these residents have taken to arms and rocked the idyllic beach village. Overall, I think of Navhind Times, still rolling off the press; those powerful bygone Goan actors/actresses, whose names rhyme with actors and singers in Amche Noxib, Nirmon, Claudia; powerful inksters like the cartoonist, Educators but now belittled are institutions like Loyola, Monte Guirim and Don Bosco. -- anthony fernandes
Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Portugal's seven wonders spark controversy
Just as I imagained: Too many goans want to deny their portuguese colonialism. Why?. I have no problem being christian, catholic, having western mannerisms and style. The indian in me has got me NOWHERE. not in love, not in monetary success; just racial backstabbing and inuendo. The western manners and dialect and english accent has opened doors to physical attraction from the opposite sex, wonderment looks and comments from white folks... so you see, I have no problem letting the portugeuse look at GOA as one of theirs, long time ago. anthony.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: The joke is on us (FN, in Herald)
What is "Sara", wife of Mickey, saying about all this?. Interview, please!. anthony
Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Goanet Anniversary 25-08-2010 (16 years)
CONGRATULATIONS!!. All the best! Fantastic Goans you have there!! - Original Message - From: "Herman Carneiro" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:46 PM Subject: [Goanet-News] Goanet Anniversary 25-08-2010 (16 years) Dear Goanetters, Today Goanet celebrates its 16th anniversary!! I'd like to take this opportunity to share my thoughts on this proud occasion. First and foremost we owe thanks to those who work so hard to provide this service. We have two volunteers who are the pillars of Goanet: Frederick Noronha who has volunteered for 15 years; and Bosco D'Mello who has volunteered over 9 years now. That's an astounding commitment and contribution to Goanet and the Goan community. I thank them both on behalf of all of us. This year we were sad to see Viviana Coelho retire. Viviana volunteered with Goanet for about 12 years and was an invaluable part of the team. We thank Viviana and wish her all the success and happiness life has to offer. A word of thanks to Christina Pinto who regularly publishes the Goanet Cybermatrimonials. Many thanks too to Avelino D'Souza and Selma Carvalho for volunteering with Goanet alongwith with a few others who help us whenever they can. Their time and effort is certainly appreciated by all of us. Thanks go to every member of Goanet as well. Your subscriptions are testament to our success. Obviously we cannot all contribute to the dialogue on Goanet. However, many thanks go to the contributors for sharing information and views on topics pertinent to Goans worldwide. Goanet has a lot to be proud of this year: * Helping in the launch of a successful book on the Goan diaspora, by Goanetter Selma Carvalho. * Taking forward the debate on a number of issues crucial to Goa, and reflecting all points of view, including urban planning, infrastructure, people's movements, corruption, communalism. * Supporting communications and spreading the word over positive Goan ventures, like Goa Sudharop and World Goa Day. * Holding a successful Goanetters meeting in December 2009, where the focus was on a little noticed face of the diaspora -- Goans in Pakistan! * Sharing information about initiatives relevant to the diaspora undertaken from Goa, by the Goa government, the NRI Commission and others. * Helping build a better understanding of Goa by promoting visibility of Goa books globally, including those published by not-for-profit Goa, 1556 Trust, Isidore Dantas and others. I am sure you will all agree with me that Goanet is *the* communication network for Goans worldwide and provides an important service to our community. I hope that will continue into the future. We need your help to make that happen. Invite you friends and family to subscribe to Goanet and publicize Goanet. Volunteer with us. From a network with thousands of members it's unfortunate that we only have a handful of volunteers supporting the day-to-day operations of the list and running various projects and initiatives. It doesn't take much to be a volunteer. All you would need would be a few minutes almost every day, if possible. No technical skills required. Your financial support is also welcome. Donations currently go towards supporting the maintenance and growth of the mailing lists and website. When the day comes that we have a surplus, we will use that money towards community building projects in Goa. Make that happen by a financial contribution, even if just annually. Donations can be made at www.goanet.org. Thank you all for your continued support. On behalf of all of us on Goanet, Happy Anniversary! Yours sincerely, Herman Herman Carneiro Chair Goanet Admin www.goanet.org Where Goans Connect! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Goa-launch of the well-received *Into The Diaspora Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho on Aug 29, 2010 (Sunday) at 11 am at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. Meet the author, buy a signed copy (only Rs 295 in Goa till stock lasts). http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Goa-launch of the well-received *Into The Diaspora Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho on Aug 29, 2010 (Sunday) at 11 am at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. Meet the author, buy a signed copy (only Rs 295 in Goa till stock lasts). http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Dr Cornel DaCosta, two reviews...
As a Goan born in Kenya, of parents still wondering how the Indians took over "our" Goa, I do not agree with your anti-potuguese sentiments. I agree the "white" Portuguse in Canada may still harbour demeaning attitude towards Goans, but I do not subscribe to the theory that all or most Goans were exalted to be "freed" by the Indians. Only when India, that largest democratic republic, completely and fully recognises our differences, in religion and culture, and gives us the full support to continue our desire to remain Christian Goans, in peace and in harmony, yet in a distinctive indian society, in practice and in name, I shall classify ourselves as a people occupied. anthony.
Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Over 11,000 attend VHP Ponda meet (ToI)
Please... would someone suggest to the Hindus, or whichever religiuos factions that would incite communnal discord, to let sleeping dogs lie how long must genuine goans suffer abuses, land scams, jobs scaricity, religious strifes caused or carried on by non-goans???. I have not been around when the portuguese ruled goa, but the hindus now seem wanting to continue a supposed rape by the portuguese of goa , although my own ancestors deny that the portuguese raped goa!! so, my indian friends, be happy and proud that goa is india... and do not be-little our lifestyle, our practices and our love for the good in the portuguese.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader -- The Portuguese produced immense knowledge about India: Zupanov [FN]
Sir, I , a post-portugese goan, have long agreed with my parents, that the positive influence of the portuguese in goa, among goans, is either downplayed or ignored by the indian, and present-day goans. good that it takes an outsider to show us this! anthony. - Original Message - From: "Goanet Reader" The Portuguese produced immense knowledge about India: Zupanov History looks towards understanding "Catholic Orientalism"
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: The Legend of *Xepto* by Augusto Pinto
nice.. and thanks, Gusto, for the tale from the twilight zone!! ... - Original Message - From: "Goanet Reader" Cheers for My Dears: The Legend of *Xepto* by Augusto Pinto My Dears, You'll never believe this, but the other day I happened to pass by Purgatory when I suddenly saw *Xepto*, my fellow villager from Moira. Purgatory is not Goa's latest night club, but a kind of waiting room between *Sorg* and *Infern* where confused souls are kept while the Authorities decide their cases.
Re: [Goanet] BACKGROUNDER: Goemchea Rakhondarancho Awaz ... andits demands
as a outsider looking in, and lamenting the same facts about goa, i would like to lend my support to any goan organisation wanting to promote goa and goans as we have know it from the past and wishing it into the future. anthony fernandes, toronto. - Original Message - From: "Goanet News" PANAJI: Disenchanted with the government's insensitivity to various social problems in Goa, several citizens' groups have banded together to form the Goemchea Rakhondarancho Awaz (Voice of the Protectors of Goa) GRA.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Tttthe kkkking's sssssspeech (Adv. Jos Peter D'Souza)
Man, so it is not only I that could never understand why I had to learn French in Goa!!!. Yet, French it was that got me through SSC, ( and maybe into Canada, where French is the official second language) Hindi was a complete failure to me! never could understand the lingo, nor the script, even though I finished two years in a Bombay college.So, looking back, would Hindi have helped me??.. maybe, in the Hindu-reigned business world of finance and money management, even here in Toronto, where NOBODY speaks french! What the heck, though..., I am glad my parents spoke English with me.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: The Catholic Bigot, the Hindu Right and Goan Citizenship
I do not know what you are writing... but a bigot is a bigot why use the Catholic religion to distinguish that bigot???. rubbish - Original Message - From: "Goanet Reader" http://dervishnotes.blogspot.com/2011/01/wheat-from-chaff-catholic-bigot-hindu.html Wheat from Chaff The Catholic Bigot, the Hindu Right and Goan Citizenship 'Ghar ki murgi dal barabar' (the gravy of the home-bred chicken tastes like lentil soup) and 'the grass is greener on the other side of the fence' in addition to the obvious, also seem to capture perfectly a widespread social tendency.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Go, Goa, Goan! A tribute from Karachi...
THIS, My friend, is what Goa and being Goan is to us, the non-resident Goan. Truly, I believe, sometimes, we love GOA, and are Goan, more than the native Goan.!. anthony fernandes, goan, I am. - Original Message - From: "Goanet Reader" Go, Goa, Goan! A tribute to the people of a beloved land
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Honeymoon in the Wilds (Elsie Maciel)
THANK YOU FOR THIS ! anthony - Original Message - From: "Goanet Reader" > HONEYMOON IN THE WILDS > Elsie Maciel > > 1952: I'd always dreamed about getting married on the > roadside of the Great Rift Valley escarpment in the beautiful > little chapel the Italian prisoners-of-war had built, to mark > the end of their work on the building of the Nairobi-Nakuru > highway. But my parents wanted the wedding to be in their > newly-built home in Kitale (in the White Highlands). And so, > we had a wonderful wedding day on August 16 (1952) at my > family's Kitale home. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Goa carnival cancelled after school bus falls into river (TNN-Times of India)
Heartbreaking tragedy.. everytime a child dies, I feel for the his/her parents, family and friends. My sincerest condolences and may the departed find happiness where they go, and pray for the living!. I will reserve comment on the cancellation of the Carnival because of this tragedy; as it is this was the off and on and off, again parade!. anthony fernandes. Read all Goanet messages at: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/ --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Woman hurls kids into Goa river, then jumps in
I am Sorry...that life was so hard for her that she could not cope, that her love for her kids was expressed in this tragic manner. May Peace be with all. - Original Message - From: "Goanet News" Woman hurls kids into Goa river, then jumps in India Blooms News Service Panaji, Mar 1 (IBNS) In a dramatic episode, a troubled mother in her late thirties reportedly hurled her toddlers into Zuari River before jumping in behind them Wednesday evening. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: One humid morning in Byculla -- tiatr tales of another time (Roland Francis)
Dear Mr. Francis... thank you for penning these tiatr tales, especially for those of us that saw but could not understand. Your commentary of what was going on among the stage players and the musicians is not much different than the so many Goan tiatrist practices and stage shows held in Toronto, when konkanim first took to the stage here... Anthony Fernandes. - Original Message - From: "Goanet Reader" One humid morning in Byculla: tiatr tales of another time Roland Francis It was around ten that humid morning and much of the perspiring Goan population of Byculla was streaming into the wide gates of the magnificent Gloria Church for the Sunday high mass. Ladies were in their Sunday best, some of them with hats, gloves and stockings but all of them in veils covering their hands. The men in their starched shirts and cotton light summer jackets remained behind, keeping in mind an exit route should the priest repeat his tendency to a long and boring sermon. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] NEWS: Karnataka attack rumors spread panic (UCAN)
THIS IS WHY I dislike being an INDIAN!!. DAMN! IF Goans are to be Indians, where is the freedon of expressions, freedon from harassment, freedom! - Original Message - From: "Goanet News" Karnataka attack rumors spread panic Christians fear repeat of 2008 Hindu extremist violence after police issue warnings
Re: [Goanet] I am a member of a 55-plus (age) Goan organization
I am a 55+ Goan, too... but by jove, I am not ready to be considered a senior!. I am too busy and have so much to do before I can take time off to smell the flowers!. In response to Mr. Francis comments, i disagree with a few points. I do not have any Goan friends, yet I used to be a member of early GOA club and played organized soccer among goans. Yet, all my personal and intimate friends have been and are of the main-line race. Why? On Death, it is not welcome until and unless a person has made this world just a little bit a better place for his children and the less-privileged. I do not want to die, yet. I am a Catholic Goan and will remain a member of this strong Christian organization, as have my parents and their parents before them. THAT, to me, is what it is to be a GOAN!. I, too, have noted the deaths in recent week of older Goans in Toronto, but I tell you that I have personal knowledge of some Goans living in this country, lonely!. Therefore, when they exit their doors to attend that once-a-week gathering among other senion goans, they look forward to getting out of their loneliness and enjoying some time playing that other african-goan pastime: card games. However, new senior-goans are taking on the reigns of these clubs and forcing these true senior amchi-bhas goans to forego these past-time card games and listen to borring talk on the business of running the club!!. I have commented in the past that these old goans spend that extra fare to travel to these gatherings and do not want to be disappointed with these hobos talking and forcing these members to listen to club business. Run the club like a good non-profit organization and let the fun go on. One of these years I too may join these clubs, solely to talk football ( even play!), trains and motor-car travels in Kenya, Goa, England, Canada, USA.I may not be able to communicate in amchi-bhas, nor will I care for the laziness, gossip, club-dancing, of supposedly goan lifestyle, but a Goan in attitude and character I will be. Who will join me?
