[Goanet] Goans should not sell their ancestral property.
Everyone advises Goans not to sell their ancestral properties in Goa. I surely wish we had that choice of not selling our ancestral property to a squatter who call himself our mundcar. We have been traipsing to courts and back and visiting mamaladar and panchayat offices to try and stop this rogue from robbing our property for the last twenty years. We were in Goa in January this year 2013 for over a month as soon as we landed we had two court summons to attend court and the mamlader's engineer to measure the three hundred sq. metres for the squatter. We are forced by the Goa Government to sell our ancestral land to him for a paltry sum of I believe 20rupees per sq. metre. What really saddens me is that my ancestors saved enough money to buy through hard work and went without a lot of essential luxuries to leave land for their progeny to carry out their wishes, and these people just walk in and lay claims to our land. Our wives and children refuse to come to Goa knowing fully well that we would be embroiled in court cases and we would not have the time to show them our beautiful Goa. Ignatius Fernandes.
Re: [Goanet] Goans should not sell their ancestral property.
I believe every word you have said. My aunt lost her house in Ponda to tenants living next door. My daughter- in-law's father lost his house in Goa to relatives and I know of a total stranger in Goa stealing someone's house.This someone was not living in Goa.. How he managed to change the name on this house baffles me to this day. My aunt (dead now) and daughter-in-law's father live abroad. You can 'live' in the Government offices to get matters sorted out. This is for your information. God bless Goa! Keep up your good work. M.Fernandes --- On Wed, 2/13/13, Ignatius Fernandes igg...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Ignatius Fernandes igg...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [Goanet] Goans should not sell their ancestral property. To: goa...@goanet.org goa...@goanet.org Received: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 10:08 AM Everyone advises Goans not to sell their ancestral properties in Goa. I surely wish we had that choice of not selling our ancestral property to a squatter who call himself our mundcar. We have been traipsing to courts and back and visiting mamaladar and panchayat offices to try and stop this rogue from robbing our property for the last twenty years. We were in Goa in January this year 2013 for over a month as soon as we landed we had two court summons to attend court and the mamlader's engineer to measure the three hundred sq. metres for the squatter. We are forced by the Goa Government to sell our ancestral land to him for a paltry sum of I believe 20rupees per sq. metre. What really saddens me is that my ancestors saved enough money to buy through hard work and went without a lot of essential luxuries to leave land for their progeny to carry out their wishes, and these people just walk in and lay claims to our land. Our wives and children refuse to come to Goa knowing fully well that we would be embroiled in court cases and we would not have the time to show them our beautiful Goa. Ignatius Fernandes.
[Goanet] Goans should not sell their ancestral property
Camillo Fernandes camillofernandes at hotmail.com on Mon Feb 11 18:01:32 PST 2013 wrote: I fully agree with Arwin reg. below post and believe Goans should not sell their ancestral property. Even if they are not using it atleast they should keep it if not for anything else atleast in memory of their ancestors. However I would like to make some comments as to the reasons behind why so many Goans are sadly selling their ancestral properties: RESPONSE: Besides the points mentioned by Camilo I would like to add two more very distressing factors in clinging on to ancestral property. One is encroachments on the landed property from all sides as most properties are not compounded. For this one may have to be in Goa, fight it out and land at police station. Else, file a Court case which will take 40yrs and frequent trips to court, feed unscrupulous lawyers who are too happy to adjourn cases, seek witnesses, etc. etc. Second is if you have mundcars in your ancestral property, they will keep expanding their plinth in connivance with Panchayats, till they usurp the whole property along with their brood of children, son-in-laws and grandchildren. Is there any guarantee that an ancestral property will remain the same, untouched, un-vadalised, un-usurped for the next five years with the set of governments, Laws, law enforcers, Magistrates, etc. we have had and will be having? Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
[Goanet] Goans should not sell their ancestral property
I fully agree with Arwin reg. below post and believe Goans should not sell their ancestral property. Even if they are not using it atleast they should keep it if not for anything else atleast in memory of their ancestors. However I would like to make some comments as to the reasons behind why so many Goans are sadly selling their ancestral properties: 1. Many of the Goans are not based in Goa. Due to economic reasons many Goans work in Bombay, Gulf or other locations and are forced to keep their houses closed. They cant give to any caretaker due to fear of losing their homes. 2. Then being ancestral property there are often family disputes particularly after marriage where they feel rather than having more problems regarding it, they feel selling is the easy option as they get equal money and that too often huge amount. 3. Since maintaining the huge ancestral property may be difficult they find the easy option is to get this amount and then buy a holiday home so that as and when say maybe once a year they come down on holiday they have a place to spend in. 4. The prices of property has sky rocketed so much that they find it very tempting to sell and take this huge amount of their share and look at short time gains and book their profits little realizing that in future the prices will be much more. 5. Then again many Goans have settled for good abroad maybe in USA, Europe, New Zealand, Australia etc. and only go on holiday to Goa. In this case they would prefer to have an apartment which is easy to maintain and look after and their purpose of having a holiday is served. 6. As a Goan friend of mine said, having ancestral property sadly today is a curse - meaning it is a cause of so much ill feeling, enemity and fights among families. I repeat ideally ancestral property should never been sold but the above are the harsh realities today. Camilo Fernandes From: Arwin Mesquita arwinmesqu...@gmail.com To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Foolish Goans Selling Land Message-ID: CA+tjYVzVKGAQaBp6zwciZ=pv++k+eaewcx-dxakvh_fdeh9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am extremely disappointed to be aware that there are so many Goans foolishly selling their ancestral land so as to purchase temporary luxuries, BMW's, Audi's etc no wonder sales of these cars are rising in Goa. Some are selling land to move into Apartments. What will they do with this cars some years? Are Apartments better in the long run than your own estate? These Goans could have their prime land and have the luxuries they desire if they applied a little common sense, did some hard-work; but it appears that all they want is easy cash by selling land to outsiders; Land/Houses that their forefathers worked very hard to attain. The same thing was done by the East Indians in Mumbai and now many Lazy Goans are doing the same. Instant large sums Money seems to be the immediate Goal and I suppose when that runs out, who/what will they sell next!!! Then you have the Parasitic Builders whose main job today is to negotiate with joint stake holders of Land, so that they can strike a deal, buy the property and bring up the monstrocities so as to sell to majority from outside the state. Builders need to understand that whatever they do has an impact on the environment/society and they can't destruct at Will!! And these Land stake holders who agree are blinded by the greedy builders via one thing; again Instant Cash!! Why do you think many Outsiders are paying large sums of cash (Largely Black Money) to the Goans? Goans will reap what they sow if this pathetic attitude is not changed!! Arwin Mesquita, UAE
