[Goanet] Indian priests in USA

2008-12-29 Thread edward desilva
Teotonio R. de Souza, said:
In a parish that received an Indian priest, five older couples asked to leave, 
objecting to his accent. In the end, only three changed parishes.
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Reply:
The same was in the 60s and before in UK, till more Indians came from Kenya and 
then Uganda.
Oldies are the worst offenders regards colour till today.
That is why I declare that Religion sucks not God.
ED.





[Goanet] Indian priests in USA

2008-12-29 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:26:32 + (Hora padrão de GMT)
From: Teotonio R. de Souza teodeso...@netcabo.pt

 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/us/28priest.html?
pagewanted=1_r=2themc=th

Excerpt:

 But in another church, a parishioner had only one question: How dark is 
 his skin??

Mario responds:

One parishioner had one question?  Wow!  What percentage of the parishioners 
was this one parishioner?  Does this mean anything significant statistically 
that anyone should be concerned about?

BTW, in the USA, almost every Indian is dark in comparison with most of the 
population. 

Excerpt:

 Some of the foreign priests had confided their apprehensions to Father
 Venters. They had studied American history in school and knew about 
 racism, the civil rights movement and the Ku Klux Klan. I told them 
 that, as much as I hated it, there is prejudice but it's nothing like 
 when I was growing up Father Venters said.

 In a parish that received an Indian priest, five older couples asked to
 leave, objecting to his accent. In the end, only three changed parishes. 

Mario responds:

To begin with, if I could not understand the priests's accent I would leave the 
parish, too.  This is simple common sense, not racism.

How is it that these foreign priests who studied American history did not know 
that the US is one of the least racist countries in the world today?  Why did 
they not know about the Civil Rights Act of 1964 or that the Ku Klux Klan has 
been virtually put out of business, primarily by white Americans?  In the 
meantime, Hidutva and the RSS and the VHP still function legally in India.

Why did they think there were millions of non-white immigrants clamoring to get 
American residency and citizenship, and coming into the USA in droves, legally 
or illegally?  

Does the author or Fr. Ventners know that there is far more racism and 
communalism in India today than there is in the USA?  Why did Fr. Vintners not 
point out to the foreign priests that there is now a black US President, on top 
of numerous big city Mayors, legislators, athletes, entertainers and 
businessmen and women who are non-white in America today?

Why did he not know that Indians today are one of the most respected ethnic 
communities in the USA, and that the son of an Indian immigrant is the elected 
and very popular and respected Governor of the State of Louisiana?  Why did he 
not tell them that President-elect Obama has appointed an Indian woman as one 
of his top economic advisers?

Were these foreign priests and Fr. Ventners so incredibly ignorant as the 
author makes them out to be, or is the author biased and dishonest?  Given that 
this is a writer for the New York Times, my guess is the latter.

In Detroit near where I live, there are four parishes where the Parish Priest 
is an Indian.  Not one of them have complained of any bias - just the opposite 
- their white American parishioners are sad when they leave.

I have met numerous Indian priests serving in American parishes, and almost 
invariably the local Americans, mostly white, have raised money to build 
churches, community centers, schools, hospitals and/or health clinics for the 
villages of these priests in India.








[Goanet] Indian priests in USA

2008-12-28 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
From March 2006 to June 2007, six Indian priests arrived in Owensboro. The
first three were assigned two small rural parishes each, in the rural Lake
Barkley region.

In one, the people were so afraid that the diocese would close their parish
that they were relieved and elated to hear about the Indian priest. But in
another church, a parishioner had only one question: “How dark is his skin?”


Some of the foreign priests had confided their apprehensions to Father
Venters. They had studied American history in school and knew about racism,
the civil rights movement and the Ku Klux Klan. “I told them that, as much
as I hated it, there is prejudice — but it’s nothing like when I was growing
up,” Father Venters said.

In a parish that received an Indian priest, five older couples asked to
leave, objecting to his accent. In the end, only three changed parishes. 

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