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People ought to know that because of unregulated use of quack remedies around the world medical scientists are rightly testing them in clinical trials. In almost all of these cases, the best and the most objective of these studies show that these remedies are no better than placebos. This is absolutely the case with acupuncture as well. The following editorial entitled "Acupuncture Is Theatrical Placebo" in the medical journal "Anesthesia and Analgesia" by a world famous pharmacologist and a prominent neurologist makes this fact very clear: http://www.dcscience.net/Colquhoun-Novella-A&A-2013.pdf Here is their concluding statement: QUOTE The best controlled studies show a clear pattern, with acupuncture the outcome does not depend on needle location or even needle insertion. Since these variables are those that define acupuncture, the only sensible conclusion is that acupuncture does not work. Everything else is the expected noise of clinical trials, and this noise seems particularly high with acupuncture research. The most parsimonious conclusion is that with acupuncture there is no signal, only noise. The interests of medicine would be best-served if we emulated the Chinese Emperor Dao Guang and issued an edict stating that acupuncture and moxibustion should no longer be used in clinical practice. No doubt acupuncture will continue to exist on the “High Streets” where they can be tolerated as a voluntary self-imposed tax on the gullible (as long as they do not make unjustified claims). UNQUOTE ..David Colquhoun and Steven Novella As regards the universities that awarded my degrees, they are University of Bombay and Baylor College of Medicine. I concede however that Falcao possesses a superior extraterrestrial intelligence. Cheers, Santosh > On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:34 PM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão > wrote: > > > > Santosh > Helekar chimbelcho at yahoo.com on Sun Jan 26 17:08:46 PST 2014 wrote: > > 1. Falcao > got his medical degree from the same medical college from which I got mine, > namely Goa Medical College. > > 2. Please let me know if you need any more accurate credible information > exposing quack practices such as these. > > Cheers, > > Santosh > > > RESPONSE: > 1. WRONG! I did not get my Degree from Goa Medical College, The > "University of Bombay" awarded me my Degree in 1975. Maybe Mr. Helekar > got his from Goa University, I am not aware. > A medical Institution does not produce all doctors of the same calibre as a > factory. > The product of any institution depends on the intelligence of the student. > 2. According to Mr. Helekar, all these doctors cited in the below websites > are > "Quacks", including the WHO doctors. > > > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/videos/news/Acupuncture_122313-1.html > > > A new study finds that acupuncture helps alleviate > joint and muscle pain, stiffness and hot flashes in women taking anticancer > drugs called aromatase inhibitors. > > https://www.mja.com.au/insight/2013/6/acupuncture-research-needs-new-approach > > A German study, published in the Annals of > Internal Medicine, found that acupuncture led to statistically significant > improvements in disease-specific quality of life and antihistamine use after 8 > weeks of treatment compared with sham acupuncture and with rescue medication > (the antihistamine cetirizine) > > http://aim.bmj.com/content/early/2013/12/02/acupmed-2013-010435 > > Randomised > clinical trial of five ear acupuncture points for the treatment of overweight > people > > Professor Sabina Lim, Research Group of Pain and > Neuroscience, WHO Collaborating Center for Traditional Medicine, East-West > Medical Research Institute, Kyung Hee University, Seoul 130-701, South Korea; > l...@khu.ac.kr > > > > > > > Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. >
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Albert Peres afperes at 3129.ca on Sun Feb 2 20:44:35 PST 2014 wrote: Dr., The placebo effect is the measurable, observable, or felt improvement in health or behavior not attributable to a medication or invasive treatment that has been administered. Are you willing to deceive a patient and go on the record by writing a prescription for one as part of a medical intervention? Albert Peres RESPONSE: Albert, I am not qualified in acupuncture, as such I cannot prescribe. As an allopathic doctor, I sure can recommend and advise my patient who has chronic pain and who has not benefited from allopathic line of treatment to try it . Acupuncture IS NOT a placebo. Please go through these below websites if you have the time. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/770646 September 10, 2012 — Acupuncture is superior to both sham acupuncture and standard care for the treatment of different types of chronic pain, suggesting that the effects of acupuncture are more than just placebo effect, a new meta-analysis shows. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1334288/Acupuncture-placebo-does-relieve-pain-say-scientists.html http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/11/health/health-acupuncture/ http://news.yahoo.com/study-placebo-not-acupuncture-helps-pain-211737196.html CHICAGO (AP) — Acupuncture gets a thumbs-up for helping relieve pain from chronic headaches, backaches and arthritis in a review of more than two dozen studies — the latest analysis of an often-studied therapy that has as many fans as critics. Some believe its only powers are a psychological, placebo effect. But some doctors believe even if that's the explanation for acupuncture's effectiveness, there's no reason not to offer it if it makes people feel better…. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
Re: [Goanet] Quackery on Herald
People ought to know that because of unregulated use of quack remedies around the world medical scientists are rightly testing them in clinical trials. In almost all of these cases, the best and the most objective of these studies show that these remedies are no better than placebos. This is absolutely the case with acupuncture as well. The following editorial entitled "Acupuncture Is Theatrical Placebo" in the medical journal "Anesthesia and Analgesia" by a world famous pharmacologist and a prominent neurologist makes this fact very clear: http://www.dcscience.net/Colquhoun-Novella-A&A-2013.pdf Here is their concluding statement: QUOTE The best controlled studies show a clear pattern, with acupuncture the outcome does not depend on needle location or even needle insertion. Since these variables are those that define acupuncture, the only sensible conclusion is that acupuncture does not work. Everything else is the expected noise of clinical trials, and this noise seems particularly high with acupuncture research. The most parsimonious conclusion is that with acupuncture there is no signal, only noise. The interests of medicine would be best-served if we emulated the Chinese Emperor Dao Guang and issued an edict stating that acupuncture and moxibustion should no longer be used in clinical practice. No doubt acupuncture will continue to exist on the “High Streets” where they can be tolerated as a voluntary self-imposed tax on the gullible (as long as they do not make unjustified claims). UNQUOTE ..David Colquhoun and Steven Novella As regards the universities that awarded my degrees, they are University of Bombay and Baylor College of Medicine. I concede however that Falcao possesses a superior extraterrestrial intelligence. Cheers, Santosh > On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:34 PM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão > wrote: > > > > Santosh > Helekar chimbelcho at yahoo.com on Sun Jan 26 17:08:46 PST 2014 wrote: > > 1. Falcao > got his medical degree from the same medical college from which I got mine, > namely Goa Medical College. > > 2. Please let me know if you need any more accurate credible information > exposing quack practices such as these. > > Cheers, > > Santosh > > > RESPONSE: > 1. WRONG! I did not get my Degree from Goa Medical College, The > "University of Bombay" awarded me my Degree in 1975. Maybe Mr. Helekar > got his from Goa University, I am not aware. > A medical Institution does not produce all doctors of the same calibre as a > factory. > The product of any institution depends on the intelligence of the student. > 2. According to Mr. Helekar, all these doctors cited in the below websites > are > "Quacks", including the WHO doctors. > > > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/videos/news/Acupuncture_122313-1.html > > > A new study finds that acupuncture helps alleviate > joint and muscle pain, stiffness and hot flashes in women taking anticancer > drugs called aromatase inhibitors. > > https://www.mja.com.au/insight/2013/6/acupuncture-research-needs-new-approach > > A German study, published in the Annals of > Internal Medicine, found that acupuncture led to statistically significant > improvements in disease-specific quality of life and antihistamine use after 8 > weeks of treatment compared with sham acupuncture and with rescue medication > (the antihistamine cetirizine) > > http://aim.bmj.com/content/early/2013/12/02/acupmed-2013-010435 > > Randomised > clinical trial of five ear acupuncture points for the treatment of overweight > people > > Professor Sabina Lim, Research Group of Pain and > Neuroscience, WHO Collaborating Center for Traditional Medicine, East-West > Medical Research Institute, Kyung Hee University, Seoul 130-701, South Korea; > l...@khu.ac.kr > > Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. >
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Dr., The placebo effect is the measurable, observable, or felt improvement in health or behavior not attributable to a medication or invasive treatment that has been administered. Are you willing to deceive a patient and go on the record by writing a prescription for one as part of a medical intervention? -- Albert Peres afpe...@3129.ca 416.660.0847 cel --- Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdinando at hotmail.com wrote --- Mon Jan 27 22:25:56 PST 2014 RESPONSE: 1. WRONG! I did not get my Degree from Goa Medical College, The "University of Bombay" awarded me my Degree in 1975. Maybe Mr. Helekar got his from Goa University, I am not aware. A medical Institution does not produce all doctors of the same calibre as a factory. The product of any institution depends on the intelligence of the student. 2. According to Mr. Helekar, all these doctors cited in the below websites are "Quacks", including the WHO doctors.l ---
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Santosh Helekar chimbelcho at yahoo.com on Sun Jan 26 17:08:46 PST 2014 wrote: 1. Falcao got his medical degree from the same medical college from which I got mine, namely Goa Medical College. 2. Please let me know if you need any more accurate credible information exposing quack practices such as these. Cheers, Santosh RESPONSE: 1. WRONG! I did not get my Degree from Goa Medical College, The "University of Bombay" awarded me my Degree in 1975. Maybe Mr. Helekar got his from Goa University, I am not aware. A medical Institution does not produce all doctors of the same calibre as a factory. The product of any institution depends on the intelligence of the student. 2. According to Mr. Helekar, all these doctors cited in the below websites are "Quacks", including the WHO doctors. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/videos/news/Acupuncture_122313-1.html A new study finds that acupuncture helps alleviate joint and muscle pain, stiffness and hot flashes in women taking anticancer drugs called aromatase inhibitors. https://www.mja.com.au/insight/2013/6/acupuncture-research-needs-new-approach A German study, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, found that acupuncture led to statistically significant improvements in disease-specific quality of life and antihistamine use after 8 weeks of treatment compared with sham acupuncture and with rescue medication (the antihistamine cetirizine) http://aim.bmj.com/content/early/2013/12/02/acupmed-2013-010435 Randomised clinical trial of five ear acupuncture points for the treatment of overweight people Professor Sabina Lim, Research Group of Pain and Neuroscience, WHO Collaborating Center for Traditional Medicine, East-West Medical Research Institute, Kyung Hee University, Seoul 130-701, South Korea; l...@khu.ac.kr Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
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Dr Ferdinando,I personally think you ought to have a serious chat with the Goanet admin and sort out your differences or whatever you have with them directly and in private.I think the general Goanet reader is definitely not interested in hearing about your problems with either them or with any other private fellow member on a regular basis, however genuine it actually sounds to be. I had cut down my Goanet ubscription to just a digest, purely because it is virtually impossible to handle the sheer amount of useless emails flying around, especially on people trying to settle scores with each other.Please refrain from voicing your grievances to the community immediately. In a democratic forum, you basically have two choices: either you sort out your differences amicably with Goanet admin else you just leave the group.It is not rocket science for somebody of you IQ to have realized that... even as late as now! :-)Kind regards,JP From: drferdina...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: FW: [Goanet] Quackery on Herald Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:18:18 +0530 Goanet has a "BLACK HOLE" where mails sent to it gets lost in cyberspace. I've experienced it before too. This below mail was sent twice to Goanet but has not been posted yet. This is the third time I'm sending, let us see if it appears or disappears. The 'blackhole' is for goanet to grind their axe where Rules & Regulations cannot. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. From: drferdina...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: FW: [Goanet] Quackery on Herald Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:56:40 +0530 From: drferdina...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Quackery on Herald Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:55:56 +0530 Santosh Helekar chimbelcho at yahoo.com on Sun Jan 26 17:08:46 PST 2014 wrote: 1. Falcao got his medical degree from the same medical college from which I got mine, namely Goa Medical College. 2. Please let me know if you need any more accurate credible information exposing quack practices such as these. Cheers, Santosh RESPONSE: 1. WRONG! I did not get my Degree from Goa Medical College, The "University of Bombay" awarded me my Degree in 1975. Maybe Mr. Helekar got his from Goa University, I am not aware. A medical Institution does not produce all doctors of the same calibre as a factory. The product of any institution depends on the intelligence of the student. 2. According to Mr. Helekar, all these doctors cited in the below websites are "Quacks", including the WHO doctors. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/videos/news/Acupuncture_122313-1.html A new study finds that acupuncture helps alleviate joint and muscle pain, stiffness and hot flashes in women taking anticancer drugs called aromatase inhibitors. https://www.mja.com.au/insight/2013/6/acupuncture-research-needs-new-approach A German study, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, found that acupuncture led to statistically significant improvements in disease-specific quality of life and antihistamine use after 8 weeks of treatment compared with sham acupuncture and with rescue medication (the antihistamine cetirizine) http://aim.bmj.com/content/early/2013/12/02/acupmed-2013-010435 Randomised clinical trial of five ear acupuncture points for the treatment of overweight people Professor Sabina Lim, Research Group of Pain and Neuroscience, WHO Collaborating Center for Traditional Medicine, East-West Medical Research Institute, Kyung Hee University, Seoul 130-701, South Korea; l...@khu.ac.kr Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
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I am sure sober-minded objective readers will figure out whether what Falcao has written below makes any sense at all or not, in terms providing medical scientific evidence in support of the quack practices of crystal healing and acupuncture. But I wanted to point out some more accurate facts. Falcao got his medical degree from the same medical college from which I got mine, namely Goa Medical College. None of our professors or our medical textbooks ever justified or advocated the quack remedies of crystal healing and acupuncture. This is also true of professors and textbooks of today. The magazine Skeptical Inquirer in which the article debunking crystal healing that I referred to in my last post appeared, is recognized world-wide as a highly credible source on scientific skepticism about quackery and superstition, and on science and reason. If you are among those who only respect figures of authority, here is an article entitled "The Dangers of Complementary Therapy" on all forms of quackery propagated under the term of "complementary" medicine by the world renowned cancer surgeon Michael Baum: http://breast-cancer-research.com/content/9/S2/S10 Here is a quote involving crystal therapy: QUOTE It is therefore not an option to have an open mind about homeopathy or similarly implausible forms of alternative/complementary medicine, for example Bach Flower remedies, spiritual healing and crystal therapy. UNQUOTE Here is one debunking acupuncture by the Yale University Neurologist Steven Novella and others: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/acupuncture/ The subheadings of this article are: "1. Acupuncture is a pre-scientific superstition" "2. Acupuncture lacks a plausible mechanism" "3. Claims for efficacy are often based upon a bait-and-switch deception" "4. Clinical trials show that acupuncture does not work" Please let me know if you need any more accurate credible information exposing quack practices such as these. Cheers, Santosh > On Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:21 PM, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão > wrote: > > > > Stephen Dias steve.dias60 at > gmail.com on Sun Jan 26 02:43:40 PST 2014 posts a e-mail from Santosh Helekar > under caption: Quackery on Herald.: > > Thank You Dr. Santosh. > > Neuroscientist, > > Thank You for your valuable > comments. > > > > > RESPONSE: > > > > Stephen and members of this Forum. > > I would like to clarify that Helekar's > mail to Stephen is no better than any of our Goan politician’s explanation to > the > public in respect to any incident. I hope Stephen learns to be more observant > and questioning to such replies. > > > Mr. Helekar volunteers to give a > feedback on “crystal healing” even though Dr. Joe D’Souza sought the reaction > and feedback from Medical Practitioners and Physicians in Goa, of which Mr. > Helekar is neither. > > In his volunteered reaction Mr. > Helekar writes about quackery, modus operandi of quacks, blackmarketeers, > gullible public, healers, various physical nomenclature, superstitious > beliefs, > and also cites a so called science writer’s article ( which I assume is Mr’ > Helekar’s “credible” website as he has said before here: > http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2013-December/236812.html). > > > > > But NOWHERE does he prove that > crystal therapy if False. > > Nor has he explained WHAT IS this crystal therapy. > > And as he has stated in the post > cited above, the feedback according to him is an “accurate information from > reliable > sources in his possession.” > > I am sure Mr. Helekar will retort as > he usually does, that the FDA has not approved crystals for therapeutic use, > OR > that there is no peer reviewed scientific research journal published to > substantiate this claim of crystal healing. Therefore it is quackery! > > > In the same stride, I am sure Mr. Helekar will have to affirm that > acupuncture is also Quackery?! > > Is there any peer review scientific research > proving it is not effective? Does modern science even know how acupuncture > works? Does modern medicine know what is > “Qi, yin, yang and meridians”? > > Read Scientific view on TCM theory > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acupuncture#Scientific_view_on_TCM_theory > > > Quote: Qi, yin, yang and > meridians have no counterpart in modern studies of chemistry, biology, > physics, > or human > physiology and to date scientists have been unable to find evidence that > supports their existence. Unquote. > > > But everyone > knows that Acupuncture works for several chronic pain conditions and short > term > regional anaesthesia. > > Read here why > Clinicians as well as NHS recommend acupuncture: > > http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/jul/26/acupuncture-sceptics-proof-effective-nhs > > > Dr. Joe D’Souza did not request the > feedback specifically from medical practitioners and Physicians for nothing. > It > is because only clinicians have a broad
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Stephen Dias steve.dias60 at gmail.com on Sun Jan 26 02:43:40 PST 2014 posts a e-mail from Santosh Helekar under caption: Quackery on Herald.: Thank You Dr. Santosh. Neuroscientist, Thank You for your valuable comments. RESPONSE: Stephen and members of this Forum. I would like to clarify that Helekar's mail to Stephen is no better than any of our Goan politician’s explanation to the public in respect to any incident. I hope Stephen learns to be more observant and questioning to such replies. Mr. Helekar volunteers to give a feedback on “crystal healing” even though Dr. Joe D’Souza sought the reaction and feedback from Medical Practitioners and Physicians in Goa, of which Mr. Helekar is neither. In his volunteered reaction Mr. Helekar writes about quackery, modus operandi of quacks, blackmarketeers, gullible public, healers, various physical nomenclature, superstitious beliefs, and also cites a so called science writer’s article ( which I assume is Mr’ Helekar’s “credible” website as he has said before here: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2013-December/236812.html). But NOWHERE does he prove that crystal therapy if False. Nor has he explained WHAT IS this crystal therapy. And as he has stated in the post cited above, the feedback according to him is an “accurate information from reliable sources in his possession.” I am sure Mr. Helekar will retort as he usually does, that the FDA has not approved crystals for therapeutic use, OR that there is no peer reviewed scientific research journal published to substantiate this claim of crystal healing. Therefore it is quackery! In the same stride, I am sure Mr. Helekar will have to affirm that acupuncture is also Quackery?! Is there any peer review scientific research proving it is not effective? Does modern science even know how acupuncture works? Does modern medicine know what is “Qi, yin, yang and meridians”? Read Scientific view on TCM theory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acupuncture#Scientific_view_on_TCM_theory Quote: Qi, yin, yang and meridians have no counterpart in modern studies of chemistry, biology, physics, or human physiology and to date scientists have been unable to find evidence that supports their existence. Unquote. But everyone knows that Acupuncture works for several chronic pain conditions and short term regional anaesthesia. Read here why Clinicians as well as NHS recommend acupuncture: http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/jul/26/acupuncture-sceptics-proof-effective-nhs Dr. Joe D’Souza did not request the feedback specifically from medical practitioners and Physicians for nothing. It is because only clinicians have a broader outlook towards therapies as they cannot afford to be dogmatic and wear blinders, and also because they are in touch with patients. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
