[Goanet] SBA submits memorandum to Parrikar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Marshall, I am aware of Thapar's reputation. My point that all historians have their biases (as do we) was summed well by you in that history not being akin to any exact science. I would like it to stay so that individuals may have the opportunity to refute, as for instance SN Balagangadhara when he takes on western scholars using the same dialectics, in The Heathen in His Blindness. It is also a point that suggests to people the humanness of their savants or their beloved academics, as well their adversaries, the righteous idignant or bespatters--and to a degree takes away the omniscience of our beliefs, however deep the convictions of both the researcher, and their peers in scholarship or community. Furthermore, I am wont to continue in my belief that it is possible to learn to see through many different forms and be able to respect the gleam in ones eyes as one of studied acceptance of ones being. venantius j pinto > > From: Marshall Mendonza > Subject: [Goanet] SBA submits memorandum to Parrikar > To: goanet > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Venantius J Pinto: > > Hi Vinay,If this is true than I am with you. Please look further into this. > I often wonder as to who really writes these books. Do the advisers write > the books,do they have a say in the final draft, etc. etc. Besides that, > people likeThapar, no matter what are pretty together, as as any historian > have biases. > > Response: > > Ven, Romila Thapar is a reputed and noted historian with a long track > record. Her work has been peer reviewed and critiqued nationally as well as > internationally. History as everyone knows is not an exact science or > mathematics. If any other historian has an alternative viewpoint, all he > needs to do is conduct research and present his version supported by data > and documentation and submit it to peer review nationally and > internationally. This, however, the hindutva brigade is unable to do. For > it > means hard work and being subject to critical scrutiny. Hence they resort > to > labeling and trying to destroy the credibility of the author. > > In fact, the hindutva brigade has been in the forefront of re-writing > (inventing) history to fit into their ideology and perspective. You may > refer to the following articles. In Gujarat, social studies books are > literally injecting venom into the minds on innocent children. The infamous > VCD in Goa by the then BJP government was yet another attempt to inject > poison in the minds of children and create communal disharmony. > > http://www.ashanet.org/projects/project-view.php?p=483 > > http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?214547 > > http://www.thehindu.com/2004/06/23/stories/2004062301721000.htm > > http://www.hindu.com/2007/02/14/stories/2007021415630400.htm > > http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1523/15230140.htm > > http://www.sacw.net/HateEducation/MridulaAditya122001.html > > http://www.sacw.net/HateEducation/index.html > > I would ask Vinay to name any hindutva oriented 'historian' who has done > real research, published papers and been critically reviewed by peers > internationally. > > Regards, > > Marshall > > > -- > >
[Goanet] SBA submits memorandum to Parrikar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Venantius J Pinto: Hi Vinay,If this is true than I am with you. Please look further into this. I often wonder as to who really writes these books. Do the advisers write the books,do they have a say in the final draft, etc. etc. Besides that, people likeThapar, no matter what are pretty together, as as any historian have biases. Response: Ven, Romila Thapar is a reputed and noted historian with a long track record. Her work has been peer reviewed and critiqued nationally as well as internationally. History as everyone knows is not an exact science or mathematics. If any other historian has an alternative viewpoint, all he needs to do is conduct research and present his version supported by data and documentation and submit it to peer review nationally and internationally. This, however, the hindutva brigade is unable to do. For it means hard work and being subject to critical scrutiny. Hence they resort to labeling and trying to destroy the credibility of the author. In fact, the hindutva brigade has been in the forefront of re-writing (inventing) history to fit into their ideology and perspective. You may refer to the following articles. In Gujarat, social studies books are literally injecting venom into the minds on innocent children. The infamous VCD in Goa by the then BJP government was yet another attempt to inject poison in the minds of children and create communal disharmony. http://www.ashanet.org/projects/project-view.php?p=483 http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?214547 http://www.thehindu.com/2004/06/23/stories/2004062301721000.htm http://www.hindu.com/2007/02/14/stories/2007021415630400.htm http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1523/15230140.htm http://www.sacw.net/HateEducation/MridulaAditya122001.html http://www.sacw.net/HateEducation/index.html I would ask Vinay to name any hindutva oriented 'historian' who has done real research, published papers and been critically reviewed by peers internationally. Regards, Marshall
[Goanet] SBA submits memorandum to Parrikar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Hi Vinay, If this is true than I am with you. Please look further into this. I often wonder as to who really writes these books. Do the advisers write the books, do they have a say in the final draft, etc. etc. Besides that, people like Thapar, no matter what are pretty together, as as any historian have biases. Almost all do, unless one is talking about Hobsbawn and perhaps he does too. Anyway, so what really happened here? Also in our history books we barely have, talk about the stalwarts, Lal, Bal, Pal; Bhagat Singh, Rajguru, Sukdeo, Baga Jatin, Bose, Chandrasekar Azad, Chittaranjan Das, Maulana Azad, Savarkar, etc. There is place for all of them and yes Savarkar too. Let us not even bring in the Goans here. I feel that year ago we made pacts with the wrong forces and wrong energies. I also find it hard to believe that politicians are not aware what is coming down the pike. I would think they have inside sources, but it always appears as though they are fighting rear guard skirmishes?! And in that sense defending interests? Or do they just rub their hands and stomach's in glee waiting to see how the newest scandal may benefit them. Indian planners, politicians, and assorted pricks (of all genders), etc have perhaps done their utmost to not allow independent thought to sprout in our people. So Shivaji and his sensibility is out. Anything radical is not considered. What is considered is that we are a very accepting people, and so forth. They do not want to teach or aid in the promulgation of any strain of social change. To do so one has to be motivated via other means. The reason we have so few true activists, and strong willed individuals is by the time they are of appreciable age, they seek solace in things and ideas far from what aggrieves you, me and many others. Awareness is one small damru or a big nagara; and even a pakhawaj--since this is the way the Delhi sees things. The pakhawaj has the bellow of a bull, and bull-headed they are at the Center. So we have to snap our damrus and beat our nagaras. venantius j pinto > From: Vinay Natekar > Subject: [Goanet] SBA submits memorandum to Parrikar > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Message-ID: <264254.67915...@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I have read my son?s History text book and was shocked to note that out of > the 154 pages of the history text book of Std. VII, most of the pages have > been dedicated to the information on barbaric invaders? like Babar, Akbar > etc ?glorifying their rule in India, ?whereas the history of Chhatrapati > Shivaji Maharaj who fought the foreign Mughal aggressors and established > self rule state has been concluded in just 4 lines without having his single > picture. This proves ?that Shivaji ?is relegated to an insignificant > position in the history book. > This distortion of History is an insult to our great heritage and iconic > personalities. > NCERT ?which worked ?under pressure from the anti hindu leftist and the > pseudo secular UPA Government? whose HRD Ministry was headed by spineless > ?dim-witted Arjun Singh ?brought ?back the history books discontinued by the > NDA government in 2002.? In his fervor to please his masters, the HRD > Minister had destroyed the autonomy of NCERT and ?threw every academic > principle to ?trench. > The ?blatant ?distortions of the facts? in these text books are ?authored > by? communal ??historians like ?R.S. Sharma, ?Romila Thapar, Bipin Chandra, > Arjun Dev and Satish Chandra etc who are proven to have allegiance to the > Marxist. > No ?civilised country ?will allow? it?s democratically evolved policies to > be destroyed at the whims of a handful of politicians involved in > appeasement to certain communities. The Communists who were supporting the > previous tenure of UPA succeeded ??with pushing their twisted ideology down > the throats of India?s Generation Next. > Vinay > ? > SBA submits memorandum to Parrikar > Wed Jul 22 08:26:29 PDT 2009 > -- Samir UmaryeBICHOLIM JULY 22: The Shiksha Bachao Abhiyaan (SBA) - Goa on > Tuesdaysubmitted a memorandum to theopposition lea
[Goanet] SBA submits memorandum to Parrikar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html I have read my son’s History text book and was shocked to note that out of the 154 pages of the history text book of Std. VII, most of the pages have been dedicated to the information on barbaric invaders like Babar, Akbar etc glorifying their rule in India, whereas the history of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj who fought the foreign Mughal aggressors and established self rule state has been concluded in just 4 lines without having his single picture. This proves that Shivaji is relegated to an insignificant position in the history book. This distortion of History is an insult to our great heritage and iconic personalities. NCERT which worked under pressure from the anti hindu leftist and the pseudo secular UPA Government whose HRD Ministry was headed by spineless dim-witted Arjun Singh brought back the history books discontinued by the NDA government in 2002. In his fervor to please his masters, the HRD Minister had destroyed the autonomy of NCERT and threw every academic principle to trench. The blatant distortions of the facts in these text books are authored by communal historians like R.S. Sharma, Romila Thapar, Bipin Chandra, Arjun Dev and Satish Chandra etc who are proven to have allegiance to the Marxist. No civilised country will allow it’s democratically evolved policies to be destroyed at the whims of a handful of politicians involved in appeasement to certain communities. The Communists who were supporting the previous tenure of UPA succeeded with pushing their twisted ideology down the throats of India’s Generation Next. Vinay SBA submits memorandum to Parrikar Wed Jul 22 08:26:29 PDT 2009 -- Samir UmaryeBICHOLIM JULY 22: The Shiksha Bachao Abhiyaan (SBA) - Goa on Tuesdaysubmitted a memorandum to theopposition leader, Manohar Parrikar seeking support for their movementfor saving Indian History through the school textbooks. It may be recalled that the SBA had earlier demanded the educationdepartnment to the controversal school Historytextbooks. The Shiksha Bachao Abhiyaan which is a national organisation wasstarted in Goa by the teachers when it was noted that the departmenttried to subvert the Indian History and give priority to the foreignHistory through the school text books. The memorandum states that the text books from std. V to X are highlyobjectionable for several reasons. The verypurpose of teaching history to students is defeated as there is anabsence of Indian History. The stress is laid uponMughals and Muslim History. There is just a small mention of some ofthe Indian freedom fighters and martyrs while agreat deal is talked about the Britishers and the people who ruled our country. Most of the students have already started showing disinterest in thesubject as there is no clarity regarding historicalfacts, there are absurd pictures, content unorganized and to the pointwith little explanation, no link of syllabus fromone standards to another, difficult language for students creatingconfusion in their mind. The memorandum has also given several examples stating as to why theyhave opposed the textbooks. It has urgedthe opposition leader to look into the matter and support the issue. Parrikar in turn has also assured the teachers that hewould raise the issue in the assembly. The team of teachers included SBA convenor, Vallabh Kelkar; members,Bholesh Naik, Purnima Naik, AmolDeshpande, Govind Phadke, Samir Umarye.
[Goanet] SBA submits memorandum to Parrikar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html -- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM JULY 22: The Shiksha Bachao Abhiyaan (SBA) - Goa on Tuesday submitted a memorandum to the opposition leader, Manohar Parrikar seeking support for their movement for saving Indian History through the school textbooks. It may be recalled that the SBA had earlier demanded the education departnment to the controversal school History textbooks. The Shiksha Bachao Abhiyaan which is a national organisation was started in Goa by the teachers when it was noted that the department tried to subvert the Indian History and give priority to the foreign History through the school text books. The memorandum states that the text books from std. V to X are highly objectionable for several reasons. The very purpose of teaching history to students is defeated as there is an absence of Indian History. The stress is laid upon Mughals and Muslim History. There is just a small mention of some of the Indian freedom fighters and martyrs while a great deal is talked about the Britishers and the people who ruled our country. Most of the students have already started showing disinterest in the subject as there is no clarity regarding historical facts, there are absurd pictures, content unorganized and to the point with little explanation, no link of syllabus from one standards to another, difficult language for students creating confusion in their mind. The memorandum has also given several examples stating as to why they have opposed the textbooks. It has urged the opposition leader to look into the matter and support the issue. Parrikar in turn has also assured the teachers that he would raise the issue in the assembly. The team of teachers included SBA convenor, Vallabh Kelkar; members, Bholesh Naik, Purnima Naik, Amol Deshpande, Govind Phadke, Samir Umarye.
