Re: [Goanet] What Michael Jackson and Goa have in common

[Alfred de Tavares]

Are'nt we overlooking the greatest ever wrought Frankenstein, even

now devouring whom he may or not?

 

Osama bin Laden, created & nourished by the US of A in their impotent rage

vs USSR adventure in Afghanistan...er...Mario...

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> Selma Carvalho:
> A very similar situation is occurring in Goa. For all the time I have been
> on Goanet at least, I have been crying hoarse about how the fundamentalist
> groups in Goa will grow to strangle our very democracy. Some months back I
> was demonised as being a fear-monger and trying to divide the community
> along communal lines. Now the chickens have come home to roost. They aren't
> targeting just Muslims or Christians, their targets have turned to
> respectable members of the Hindu community themselves. The only problem is
> how do we fell the giant of distortion that we have created in our midst?
> Response:
> 
> *Selma*
> 
> *History is replete with examples of Frankensteins who devoured their
> creators. Bhindranwala was a creation of Indira Gandhi to split the Akalis.
> In the end, he was the cause of her death. Prabhakaran of LTTE was supported
> clandestinely by the Indian govt. In the end, he was the cause of former PM
> Rajiv Gandhi’s death. The Shiv Sena was a Congress creation to put down the
> communists. Today the SS has grown to become a monster whom the govt cannot
> touch.*
> 
> *Similarly, the RSS/BJP has spawned a number of organizations like HJS, BD,
> VHP, Ekal Vidyalaya’s, Vidya Bharati’s, Sri Ram Sene’s etc. to do their
> dirty work so that their hands can be kept clean. Slowly, but surely, these
> bodies are now going out of control, and are now becoming monsters in their
> own right. Witness Praveen Togadia thumbing his nose at his bosses.*
> 
> *The silence of the large majority has a price to pay. When muslims were
> butchered in Gujarat, there was silence, when Christians were persecuted in
> Orissa, there was silence. Emboldened, the chickens are now coming home to
> roost. What is happening is true to the hindutva ideology. The enemies of
> hindutva in the words of Golwalkar, RSS chief are muslims, Christians,
> Marxists and secular minded hindus. The hindutvadis have already tried
> ethnic cleansing with the muslims and Christians. Thay have been having
> regular clashes with the Marxists, especially in Kerala. It is now the turn
> of secular minded hindus.*
> 
> *I am reminded of the words of Rev *Martin
> Niemöller(1892–1984)
> * who wrote: “ **First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up,
> because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t
> speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I
> didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by
> that time there was no one left to speak up for me."* about the inactivity
> of German intellectuals
> following the
> Nazi  rise to power and the purging of
> their chosen targets, group after group.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Marshall**

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[Goanet] What Michael Jackson and Goa have in common

[Marshall Mendonza]

   August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY
Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the
Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992

For a list of World Goa Day events see:

http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com



Selma Carvalho:
A very similar situation is occurring in Goa. For all the time I have been
on Goanet at least, I have been crying hoarse about how the fundamentalist
groups in Goa will grow to strangle our very democracy. Some months back I
was demonised as being a fear-monger and trying to divide the community
along communal lines. Now the chickens have come home to roost. They aren't
targeting just Muslims or Christians, their targets have turned to
respectable members of the Hindu community themselves. The only problem is
how do we fell the giant of distortion that we have created in our midst?
Response:

*Selma*

*History is replete with examples of Frankensteins who devoured their
creators. Bhindranwala was a creation of Indira Gandhi to split the Akalis.
In the end, he was the cause of her death. Prabhakaran of LTTE was supported
clandestinely by the Indian govt. In the end, he was the cause of former PM
Rajiv Gandhi’s death. The Shiv Sena was a Congress creation to put down the
communists. Today the SS has grown to become a monster whom the govt cannot
touch.*

*Similarly, the RSS/BJP has spawned a number of organizations like HJS, BD,
VHP, Ekal Vidyalaya’s, Vidya Bharati’s, Sri Ram Sene’s etc. to do their
dirty work so that their hands can be kept clean. Slowly, but surely, these
bodies are now going out of control, and are now becoming monsters in their
own right. Witness Praveen Togadia thumbing his nose at his bosses.*

*The silence of the large majority has a price to pay. When muslims were
butchered in Gujarat, there was silence, when Christians were persecuted in
Orissa, there was silence. Emboldened, the chickens are now coming home to
roost. What is happening is true to the hindutva ideology. The enemies of
hindutva in the words of Golwalkar, RSS chief are muslims, Christians,
Marxists and secular minded hindus. The hindutvadis have already tried
ethnic cleansing with the muslims and Christians. Thay have been having
regular clashes with the Marxists, especially in Kerala. It is now the turn
of secular minded hindus.*

*I am reminded of the words of Rev *Martin
Niemöller(1892–1984)
* who wrote: “ **First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t
speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I
didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by
that time there was no one left to speak up for me."* about the inactivity
of German intellectuals
following the
Nazi  rise to power and the purging of
their chosen targets, group after group.

Regards,

Marshall**

[Goanet] What Michael Jackson and Goa have in common

[Carvalho]

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This morning I read that Michael Jackson's mother is considering the 
possibility of suing Jackson's doctor for wrongful death. Now consider this, 
Jackson was a grown man of 50, who for years was estranged from his family and 
infact had a very troubled relationship with his father. During these 50 odd 
years of Jackson's life, the family did precious little to reign in Jackson's 
bizarre lifestyle. For years and years the family aided and abetted Jackson's 
addiction, making whatever excuses it needed to make for him and now it is 
truly rich that they should seek to sue the doctor.

A very similar situation is occurring in Goa. For all the time I have been on 
Goanet at least, I have been crying hoarse about how the fundamentalist groups 
in Goa will grow to strangle our very democracy. Some months back I was 
demonised as being a fear-monger and trying to divide the community along 
communal lines. Now the chickens have come home to roost. They aren't targeting 
just Muslims or Christians, their targets have turned to respectable members of 
the Hindu community themselves. The only problem is how do we fell the giant of 
distortion that we have created in our midst?

Frederick tells us that these individuals should be taken on in the Marathi 
media. The more important question is why are the Marathi media papers 
recruiting grounds for these individuals? The power that these groups have is 
their ingenuity. What is peddled is nothing but falsity but of course it can 
always be true can't it? If it is couched in the right manner. It could just be 
true that Muslims are responsible for centuries of persecuting Hindus and 
should now inturn be victimised lest they rise again and build a few more Taj 
Mahals; it just could be true that Christians are responsible for the 
Inquisition and that they could suddenly turn a 1.2 billion country into a 
Christian stronghold? That the vast Hindu majority has failed in Goa to 
actually question these untruths, to vociferously take on these groups, to me 
says they have been nothing more than the Jackson family of Goa.

best,
selma