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Bosco D wrote to Mario: Please advise the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered. Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:41:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervyn Lobo Mario has understood the question. And he knows the answer to it. It is to his dis-advantage?to answer the question here. Mario responds: Yes, I?understood Bosco's question, which I?have answered THREE times. This raises the?question of whether you?understood the?answer? Obviously your comments above prove that you did not. Since this post goes TO and FRO... Let me try to make it more simple to answer! The date? The date(gregorian calendar or Hijra will also do) (DIS in Konkani) the speech was delivered! e.g. today's date : 22.09.2009. (Zero Nine is for month e.g.September) :-) don't ask me for more now!! The Time? The time (IST- Indian Standard Time) can give in GMT too...the difference will be adjusted with + 5.30hrs, no problem:-) In Hyderabad? Hyderabad is the capital of AP state(Andra Pradesh, India). If other than Hyderabad, please say so!! List of other Indian cities/towns for ready ref.: (In Aphabetical order) Ahmedabad Allahabad Bangalore Chandigarh Chennai (Madras) Delhi Jaipur Kochi (Cochin) Kolkatta (Calcutta) Lucknow Mumbai (Bombay) Nagpur Panjim hAVE a nICE dAY. Seb PS1: FN's post below... Time of writing this post. Another example (to make things more easier to understand):-) Subject: [Goanet] 3.21 pm in Goa... ... and it's raining cats and dogs. With a lot of thunder and some lightening. The monsoon's parting kick? The return monsoons? ...FN PS2: BTW what happened after RKN wrote saying he had nothing to do with; what was posted on Facebook, our own goanetter... blah, blah??
Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
Bosco D wrote to Mario: > Please advise the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was > delivered. Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:41:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervyn Lobo Mario has understood the question. And he knows the answer to it. It is to his dis-advantage?to answer the question here. Mario responds: Yes, I understood Bosco's question, which I have answered THREE times. This raises the question of whether you understood the answer? Obviously your comments above prove that you did not.
Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
Bosco D wrote to Mario: > Please advise the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was > delivered. Bosco, Mario has understood the question. And he knows the answer to it. It is to his dis-advantage to answer the question here. Another question that has been asked on Goanet, twice, is: "P.S. BTW, do you know someone by the name of Waylusha?" "While you are at this, can you also tell us if you know goantanamera and waylusha?" Francis Rodrigues too understands the question. And he knows it is to his dis-advantage to answer it. Goanet readers have by now understood the reason why both Mario and Francis have trouble answering simple questions. Mervyn1650Lobo __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
Mario wrote: I have provided Bosco with THIRTEEN sources in India that reported the Abdul Kalam letter, including a Home Minister of Karnataka State that he can contact if he is really concerned about the alleged authenticity of the letter and not in deflecting attention from its contents. Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:11:20 -0400 From: "Bosco D" Whether THIRTEEN or THREE HUNDRED sources are provided is immaterial. All sources have plagiarised the same text. The request above was to provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was alleged to have been delivered by President Kalam. An inability to provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered would imply Mario is using Goanet to spread Urban Legends. Mario responds: That's what you say. Your comment is bogus and your request is null and void since you have been referred to THIRTEEN sources that you can contact directly with your concerns. Where is your proof that any of them has agreed with you? Until you can provide such proof your comment is clearly a calumny.
Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:25:25 +0530 From: "Ashley D'silva" Slogans can't make India a World Power: Murthy By siliconindia news bureau Tuesday,15 September 2009, 14:17 hrs Comment(28) Bangalore: India's strive to be a world power is guided more by euphemistic slogans and the country's aim cannot be achieved with it. "Its only with real dedicated performance that India can excel," said Infosys Chairman and Chief Mentor, Narayan Murthy. Mario observes: Thanks for posting this. SiliconIndia.com is an Indian techhie site from the heart of the Silicon Valley, and Narayan Murthy is right as usual. However, in my never-humble opinion, technocrats like him will deal with this aspect of India's progress successfully and smooth its rough edges as we go. India and China are now the foundations of the new world economy on which the rest will build or re-build - or not. What really got to me was when I met an American of Goan heritage in the USA recently who was reluctant to visit India because he said it was the filthiest and most callous country towards others he had ever seen. This is a guy who came to the US from Africa and had done all his advanced studies in India. As an American of Bhayya-Goan heritage who grew up in MP and lived and worked in Jamshedpur, Mumbai and Pune, and now happily visits India from the USA annually, I had never heard anyone put it so vehemently and in quite those terms. "The filthiest and most callous country he had ever seen?" Whoa! This from an African-Goan who had most of his schooling in India? Some East African Goans I have met have shi..., ...er, lousy, attitudes and superiority complexes, but, is East Africa any cleaner or less callous than India? I have no idea, but I suspect we will soon find out. What the man was talking about was the public urinating and defecating and spitting all over the place, throwing thrash in public places while keeping their own abode spotless, massive tax cheating and corruption, and a total disregard for nature and natural resources and of others on the highways and byways. This MUST change before India can rightly claim its long-delayed place among the NICE nations of the world, for all its citizens. This is why THE CONTENTS of the Abdul Kalam letter, which seems to be lost on those determined to throw mud all over it's authenticity, was so interesting to me, and apparently to THIRTEEN separate Indian bloggers including the Home Minister of Karnataka, because it sternly lectured Indians to realize the importance of this and challenged them to work on improving their civic sense. I had never before seen any Indian leader show any recognition of this issue, which is a drum I have been beating for years now to the chagrin of some of my more jingoistic Indian friends. I hope THE CONTENTS survive and sink in to whoever read the letter in India, and they then decide to take the lesson to heart, regardless of whether others succeed in burying it under a heap of mud.
Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
From: "Bosco D" Please advise the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered. An inability to provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered would imply Mario is using Goanet to spread Urban Legends. Mario responds: Not true. I have provided Bosco with THIRTEEN sources in India that reported the Abdul Kalam letter, including a Home Minister of Karnataka State that he can contact if he is really concerned about the alleged authenticity of the letter and not in deflecting attention from its contents. RESPONSE: Whether THIRTEEN or THREE HUNDRED sources are provided is immaterial. All sources have plagiarised the same text. The request above was to provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was alleged to have been delivered by President Kalam. An inability to provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered would imply Mario is using Goanet to spread Urban Legends. - B
Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
Dear Goa netters, Here is something to mull on. Subject: Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power Slogans can't make India a World Power: Murthy Bysiliconindia news bureau Tuesday,15 September 2009, 14:17 hrs Comment(28) Bangalore: India's strive to be a world power is guided more by euphemistic slogans and the country's aim cannot be achieved with it. "Its only with real dedicated performance that India can excel," said Infosys Chairman and Chief Mentor, Narayan Murthy. The initiative for better performance can be witnessed as the company has rigorously stretched its training period. "Earlier it was not more than 2-3 months, however, now as a measure to enthuse more competition, its extended to seven months," said an employee, who has been a part of the organization for four years. The vast enthusiasm in the IT sector is witnessed by the fact that 70 percent of the employees who join the IT firms do not have graduates as parents, pinpoints the Leader of the Opposition, Karnataka State Legislative Assembly, Siddaramaiah. Murthy's remarks came in while addressing a crowd during the inauguration of Infosys' second Global Education Center (GEC II). Inaugurated by UPA Chief, Sonia Gandhi, the new education center is spread across an area of 1.44 million square feet. With the emergence of the new center, which took four years to develop, the number of employees who can be trained at the Mysore facility of Infosys invariably increased from 4500 to 14,000 employees. The facility is also contemplating on a Special Economic Zone (SEZ) with a capacity of 3000 seats, which is under construction. The UPA Chief asserted that the facility inauguration gave her a chance to bunk her political life for a few hours. The combined influence of education and the business world makes her pine for a few more days of freedom from politics. The Karnataka Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappa was also present on the occasion. In context of infrastructure and size, the centre is the largest corporate education centre in the world. The company's total investment in the Mysore centre is Rs.2,055 crore of which Rs.350 crore has been invested in construction of software development blocks and related services, as another Rs.1,705 crore was spent on education and training related infrastructure. "In 2008-2009, more than 16,000 new entrants were trained and this financial year around 16,000 more are expected to be trained through this program. In addition, special programs have been conducted at the GEC for students from Australia, Bhutan, China, Columbia, Japan, Malaysia, Mauritius, Panama, Thailand, U.K. and the U.S," said Murthy. Structured with classical designs, the education center is equipped with smart classrooms. It has 485 faculty rooms, 42 conference rooms, five assessment halls, an induction hall, a cyber cafe and two libraries which can house over 1,40,000 books. The GEC I has a built up area of 4,40,735 square feet, as it has 52 training rooms, 183 faculty rooms and a library that can accommodate 60,000 books. The new GEC has a has 84-'100 seater', three-200 seater, six-60 seater and two-36 seater class rooms, five examination halls and 302 faculty rooms. It also has an induction hall which can seat 400 trainees and a library which can accommodate 80,000 books. The seating capacity of the cyber cafe is 236. It has seven food courts, offering various cuisines ranging from South Indian to continental food. Submitted By Ashley D'Silva
Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
Mario wrote: Without changing my breathing pattern one whit I have provided Bosco with THIRTEEN sources, including a Home Minister of Karnataka, who reported the Abdul Kalam letter, which Bosco is referring to as a speech in his comment above. I have referred Bosco to any one of these sources if he wants further details on the Kalam letter, THE CONTENTS of which Bosco seems to have taken umbrage with. Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:13:49 -0400 From: "Bosco D" Please advise the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered. An inability to provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered would imply Mario is using Goanet to spread Urban Legends. Mario responds: Not true. I have provided Bosco with THIRTEEN sources in India that reported the Abdul Kalam letter, including a Home Minister of Karnataka State that he can contact if he is really concerned about the alleged authenticity of the letter and not in deflecting attention from its contents. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183225.html http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183261.html If Bosco is concerned about the letter any one of the THIRTEEN sources.
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:42:19 -0400 From: "Bosco D" After huffing and puffing and wasting more bandwidth Mario is yet to provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered by President Kalam. Mario responds: This is false. Without changing my breathing pattern one whit I have provided Bosco with THIRTEEN sources, including a Home Minister of Karnataka, who reported the Abdul Kalam letter, which Bosco is referring to as a speech in his comment above. I have referred Bosco to any one of these sources if he wants further details on the Kalam letter, THE CONTENTS of which Bosco seems to have taken umbrage with. RESPONSE: Another sheepish response. The request of Sep 10/09 [1] is still outstanding: Please advise the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered. An inability to provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered would imply Mario is using Goanet to spread Urban Legends. All the cut-and-paste links will not legitimise the spread of a hoax msg. So if this speech was really delivered by India's former President Kalam, please provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered. Enough of the huffing and puffing and dancing around the carousel. - B
Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:42:19 -0400 From: "Bosco D" After huffing and puffing and wasting more bandwidth Mario is yet to provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered by President Kalam. Mario responds: This is false. Without changing my breathing pattern one whit I have provided Bosco with THIRTEEN sources, including a Home Minister of Karnataka, who reported the Abdul Kalam letter, which Bosco is referring to as a speech in his comment above. I have referred Bosco to any one of these sources if he wants further details on the Kalam letter, THE CONTENTS of which Bosco seems to have taken umbrage with. Here they are again, just to save Bosco the trouble of looking them up in the archives: http://drvsacharya.blogspot.com/2008/11/most-forwarded-mail-of-year.html http://randomthougts101.blogspot.com/2009/01/letter-to-every-indian-apj-abdul-kalam.html http://www.scribd.com/doc/10961950/A-Letter-to-Every-Indian-by-A-P-J-Abdul-Kalam http://schools.papyrusclubs.com/kv1uppal/voice/a-letter-from-dr.-apj-abdul-kalam http://itsdawn.sulekha.com/blog/post/2008/10/a-letter-for-every-indian-apj-recd-through-email.htm http://www.uttishthata.org/category/apj-abdul-kalam/ http://blogs.ibibo.com/darshak/a-letter-to-every-indian-apj http://blogs.ibibo.com/Tanublog/very-touching-dr-a-p-j-abdul-kalam-s-sp http://your-contribution-to-the-society.learnhub.com/discussions/12408-dr-abdul-kalams-speech-in-hyderabad http://www.managementparadise.com/forums/laughter-accelerated-just-chill/613-letter-apj-abdul-kalam.html http://aspiration.rediffiland.com/blogs/2008/10/11/Speech-By-APJ-Abdul-Kalam-1.html http://forum.santabanta.com/showthread.htm?t=92518 http://te-in.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=47891397782&topic=9361 Unquote.
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After huffing and puffing and wasting more bandwidth Mario is yet to provide the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered by President Kalam. Nevertheless it appears the bogus author of this commentary had Mario in mind when he spoke and wrote, rather wrote and then spoke thus: "Like lazy cowards hounded by our fears we run to America to bask in their glory and praise their system." [1] As demonstrated several times, Mario makes bogus statements and spends a lifetime trying to prove them right instead of withdrawing them. RKN on Facebook is one such recent allegation. - B [1] http://www.uttishthata.org/2007/07/06/a-letter-to-every-indian-apj/ -Original Message- From: Mario Goveia > When I posted a speech made earlier this year in Hyderabad by Abdul > Kalam asking Indians to improve their civic sense, which was widely > circulated in India but not widely reported abroad, there were some on > Goanet who took umbrage and insinuated that the speech was a fraud, > which was a shocking response to this rare call to Indians by a > respected national leader. > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:37:59 -0400 From: "Bosco D" #1) Please advise the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered. #2) If this was a speech, why does the webpage of the link you provided state "A Letter to Every Indian - APJ Abdul Kalam" [1] #3) Surely you know the difference between a letter and a speech. Mario responds: Bosco is absolutely right. I used "letter" and "speech" interchangeability. However, I wonder if he knows that THE CONTENTS of a widely circulated open letter to the country by an ex-President is tantamount to a speech.
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From: Mario Goveia > > When I posted a speech made earlier this year in Hyderabad by Abdul > Kalam asking Indians to improve their civic sense, which was widely > circulated in India but not widely reported abroad, there were some on > Goanet who took umbrage and insinuated that the speech was a fraud, > which was a shocking response to this rare call to Indians by a > respected national leader. > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:37:59 -0400 From: "Bosco D" #1) Please advise the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered. #2) If this was a speech, why does the webpage of the link you provided state "A Letter to Every Indian - APJ Abdul Kalam" [1] #3) Surely you know the difference between a letter and a speech. Mario responds: Bosco is absolutely right. I used "letter" and "speech" interchangeability. However, I wonder if he knows that THE CONTENTS of a widely circulated open letter to the country by an ex-President is tantamount to a speech. Maybe not. One of India's biggest problems is the utter lack of civic senseby the vast majority of Indians. When Abdul Kalam lectured Indians earlier this year urging them to improve their civic sense his comments received widespresd coverage in India. However, Bosco who does not even live in India has taken umbrage and has been nitpicking this issue ever since, as we can see above, questioning it authenticity, and quibbling over whether it was a "speech" or a "letter". My initial post on this subject was titled, [Goanet] Abdul Kalam's Letter to every Indian: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/182239.html If I referred to Kalam's comments elsewhere as a speech, does it make any difference to THE CONTENT that the speech was in the form of a letter? After all, THE POINT I was making was as follows: Quote: As the lone voice of reason, truth and peace on Goanet, while recognizing India's remarkable economic progress after they dumped extreme socialism on the thrash heap of history where it belongs, I have also made several references to the deplorable civic sense of many Indians in India and wished that someone in a leadership position would campaign to raise the civic consciousness of the country. Now I find a speech by the brilliant but tonsorially-challenged ex-President Abdul Kalam that did just that back in January, 2009, which somehow none of our Indian Goanetters found of enough interest to post here: http://randomthougts101.blogspot.com/2009/01/letter-to-every-indian-apj-abdul-kalam.html Unquote. Wouldn't a Goanetter of goodwill be able to tell that it was THE CONTENT that was important and what I was referring to, and realize that THE CONTENTS of an open letter to all Indians is little different from a "speech" in terms of the message it is trying to convey? Bosco wrote: #4) Suggestion: Please follow Santosh's advice and check your weblinks at the Quackometer website: http://www.quackometer.net before forwarding them to Goanet. Mario responds: Here we see Bosco posting misleading information of his own suggesting that I should check my weblinks with Quackometer.net before forwarding them to Goanet. If Bosco had taken the time to visit Quackometer.net himself, he would have discovered what this web site is all about, and avoided embarrassing himself: Quote: WHAT IS THE QUACKOMETER ALL ABOUT? The quackometer is a project based around the automation of debunking quack medicine on the web. The web is full of pages supporting dubious medical claims and inflated capabilities for cures. The freedom that the web gives us to express our views, entertain and do business also gives quacks a way to make a living by promoting nonsense treatments to unsuspecting people. Unquote. Bosco wrote: #5) On Aug 27/09 you stated: *** This "Letter to every Indian" by Abdul Kalam MUST be a hoax. I mean, think about it. Why would any Indian leader point out the abysmal lack of civic sense among Indians? *** [2] You are making contradictory statements. You also alleged the same hoax speech was posted by a Goanetter, Radhakrishnan nair, on Facebook. This was proven to be false. You are yet to withdraw your false allegations. Mario responds: There must be something in the water in some sections of Toronto. This is the second time recently that a Goanetter from Toronto has truncated my comments to completely change the meaning of what I had said and then responded to the distortion as if it were true. Here is the actual exchange that Bosco is referring to in his comments above: Bosco wrote the following [Note he acknowledges the "publication of this piece"] about the Kalam letter, which I had referred to as a "letter" and as a "speech": Quote: This is another hoax article unless the date and location of the original publication of this piece is provided or if this was a speech, the date and place where it was made. Another bout of hollow jingoism!! I doubt t
Re: [Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Mario Goveia > When I posted a speech made earlier this year in Hyderabad by Abdul Kalam > asking > Indians > to improve their civic sense, which was widely circulated in India but not > widely > reported abroad, > there were some on Goanet who took umbrage and insinuated that the speech was > a > fraud, > which was a shocking response to this rare call to Indians by a respected > national > leader. RESPONSE: #1) Please advise the date, time and location in Hyderabad where this speech was delivered. #2) If this was a speech, why does the webpage of the link you provided state "A Letter to Every Indian - APJ Abdul Kalam" [1] #3) Surely you know the difference between a letter and a speech. #4) Suggestion: Please follow Santosh's advice and check your weblinks at the Quackometer website: http://www.quackometer.net before forwarding them to Goanet. #5) On Aug 27/09 you stated: *** This "Letter to every Indian" by Abdul Kalam MUST be a hoax. I mean, think about it. Why would any Indian leader point out the abysmal lack of civic sense among Indians? *** [2] You are making contradictory statements. You also alleged the same hoax speech was posted by a Goanetter, Radhakrishnan nair, on Facebook. This was proven to be false. You are yet to withdraw your false allegations. Say NO to plagiarism !! - B Ref: [1] http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/182239.html [2] http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/182367.html
[Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 09:47:51 +0530 From: Antonio Menezes A very interesting ;point raised by Messrs. Mario Goveia and Vivian D'Souza. It would appear that sufficient attention has not been paid on essential conditions for a would be world power so far, by the powers that be in the Indian polity. Mario adds: Thanks for joining in this important topic, Antonio, which too many Indians take for granted or completely ignore. It is high time that India's opinion leaders turned their attention to quality of life issues including public cleanliness and civic order. Civic carelessness should be curbed by each Indian taking responsibility for their own actions and surroundings. Anyone from India who has travelled abroad would notice the difference immediately. People in countries with a higher quality of life treat each other and their public surroundings with much more respect than in countries with a lower quality of life. Believe me, there are countries that are as bad or worse than India when it comes to civic carelessness, but those are not the ones India needs to look to for inspiration. On Goanet, Rajan and Joe have done yeoman's work and posted pictures showing some of the blight that is taking place in what is probably the nation with the highest level of natural brain power in the world, but don't give a sh.., ...er, hoot, about anyone but themselves in public. Pretty amazing when you think about it. On the Indian streets there is no concept of "right of way" as we see it in every civilized country. From pedestrians to vehicles the most brazen rule the roost in India, and the devil take everyone else. Why can't each driver start by using turn signals and not cutting in front of cross traffic and others who clearly have the right of way, bringing them to a screeching halt. What the hell is THAT? You couldn't drive like that in any civilized country. No one who does not have their taxes deducted at the source pays their taxes honestly in India. Millions of small business people in India live lavish personal lives while showing tax losses and bribing any tax collectors who may catch up with them. This is devastating to a still-poor country that needs the revenue for economic development. Sad to say, but India is a nation of tax cheats and scofflaws. When I posted a speech made earlier this year in Hyderabad by Abdul Kalam asking Indians to improve their civic sense, which was widely circulated in India but not widely reported abroad, there were some on Goanet who took umbrage and insinuated that the speech was a fraud, which was a shocking response to this rare call to Indians by a respected national leader.
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* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Antonio Menezes wrote: > For three millennia or more, the psyche of the majority of people was > subjected to psychological terrorism converting our population into jellies. > Casteist oppression has resulted in the general listlessness of the people. -snip- > Education helps in places like China, Indonesia, sub-Saharan Africa etc., > But in case of India a lot of social upliftment work will have to be done to > elevate the Indian psyche to a reasonable level and this in itself will > amount > to centuries of hard work.Meanwhile, India, I am afraid, will have to wait > for > an ideal situation to arise, and make a mark as a world power. Antonio, The economic reports I read today take pains to point out that India and China had the biggest and most vibrant economies in the world from the time of Christ to around 200 years ago. With the economies of both these countries being reverted to the hands of native entrepreneurs, western economist have no doubt that both countries will regain their economic superiority this century. Some predict even within the next two decades. Sitting here in Canada, the other delight is to watch countries like the US, Germany and France print money and use it to prop up failed industries, all in the name of creating employment for their residents. This strategy of state sponsored employment is what led to the death of innovation and, ultimately, failed economies. The BRIC countries are already pushing for a monetary system that is not dependant on the whims of countries with failed monetary and banking systems. The BRIC countries know that when the US is forced to devalue its currency, it will effectively transfer the worlds wealth to itself as foreigners are now the main holders of US debt. Last week, the UN called for a new world reserve currency. We do live in interesting times. Mervyn1650Lobo __ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com A very interesting ;point raised by Messrs. Mario Goveia and Vivian D'Souza. It would appear that sufficient attention has not been paid on essential conditions for a would be world power so far, by the powers that be in the Indian polity. For a nation to be strong , it not only needs economic strength but the most essential condition is the availability of human capital with wholesome psyche. A brahmin may say he was born ''superior'' therefore India is a superior nation. Pryanka Chopra is a beautiful woman therefore all Indian women are beautiful. What a fallacy!!! For three millennia or more, the psyche of the majority of people was subjected to psychological terrorism converting our population into jellies. Casteist oppression has resulted in the general listlessness of the people. Education helps in places like China, Indonesia, sub-Saharan Africa etc., But in case of India a lot of social upliftment work will have to be done to elevate the Indian psyche to a reasonable level and this in itself will amount to centuries of hard work.Meanwhile, India, I am afraid, will have to wait for an ideal situation to arise, and make a mark as a world power. Antonio
[Goanet] Will India EVER be a world power
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:33:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Vivian A. DSouza" http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/182829.html One questions whether India will ever reach the status of a world power when for decades there are no improvements at the local level. Mario responds: Vivian, I'm glad you asked your rhetorical question because it draws attention to how far back India currently is from being a "world power" as far as the broader issues of development are concerned. In spite of all the advances and progress since Manmohan Singh and a few others succeeded in dumping most of socialism on the trash heap of history where it belongs, anyone who has visited even the second-world countries in western Europe will see how much ground India has to make up, even though western Europe hardly qualifies as a "world power" any more.
