[Goanet] A Crisis of Indian Students.

2016-04-17 Thread Albert Peres

---Jose colaco1 at gmail.com wrote ---

 ... In the mix are: the social taboos, the sheer desperation of trying 
to make ends meet, the inability to match the high-end life style of the 
rich and famous, the corruption, caste discrimination and other crap 
which goes on.


In the process, the young have missed their childhood and adolescence. 
No wonder, so many of the adult-aged folks have not 'grown up'.


So, the choices for the young remain in Escapism: Alcohol, 
'Restauranting', Eve-teasing et al, Movies,  Cricket, a Gulf job and the 
much maligned Portuguese 'passport'.




...escapism, alcohol, restauranting, eve-teasing, movies, cricket, jobs 
and passport...


Congratulations JC, you have summed up in short synopsis Goan Catholic 
Society across the world for the last 150 years.


...add Mass, attending funerals, books, newspapers, bingo, crossword 
puzzles, grotty social club anniversary dances, following American 
politics on TV and the internet, the odd drink and endless cups of tea, 
and you have totally covered the sad state of current affairs.


There is hope kids. Sun shines again tomorrow.

--
Albert Peres

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Re: [Goanet] A Crisis of Indian Students.

2016-04-17 Thread Jose
On Apr 16, 2016, at 10:35 PM, Roland  wrote:

"Can anyone explain the survey of 1900 students (fairly large sample) of 3 
large Indian metropolitan cities that shows 50% of them considered suicide and 
of that number 42% tried it at least once.

This indicates a very troubling situation involving young people. 

India being India, take my word, nobody who counts will care, but they 
definitely should."

Comment:

Dear Roland,

There is no doubt that Suicide is a serious problem (esp) in India, not only 
among the young but also among the not so young. 

However, this reported survey would do well with a few clarifications: (1) How 
were the subjects selected ? (2) What methods were used to Randomise the sample 
and eliminate statistical bias ? (3) What questions were asked in the survey ? 
(4) in what format were the answers provided ? (5) What tests were used to 
analyse the data ? etc

I submit that, in general, the pressures on the Indian young and not-so-young 
are enormous: to succeed in academics, in the jobs and on their personal 
relationships.  In the mix are: the social taboos, the sheer desperation of 
trying to make ends meet, the inability to match the high-end life style of the 
rich and famous, the corruption, caste discrimination and other crap which goes 
on.

In the process, the young have missed their childhood and adolescence. No 
wonder, so many of the adult-aged folks have not 'grown up'.

So, the choices for the young remain in Escapism: Alcohol, 'Restauranting', 
Eve-teasing et al, Movies,  Cricket, a Gulf job and the much maligned 
Portuguese 'passport'.

But, When all fails, they contemplate Ending it All.

Such is the Dichotomous (alleged) brilliance of Indiya. 

Make in India for true !

best
jc




Re: [Goanet] A Crisis of Indian Students

2016-04-17 Thread Patrice Riemens



Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 22:35:30 -0400
From: Roland <roland.fran...@gmail.com>
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] A Crisis of Indian Students.

Can anyone explain the survey of 1900 students (fairly large sample)
of 3 large Indian metropolitan cities that shows 50% of them
considered suicide and of that number 42% tried it at least once.

This indicates a very troubling situation involving young people.

India being India, take my word, nobody who counts will care, but they
definitely should.

Roland Francis
Toronto



Aside from the - almost irrelevant here - fact that young people tend to 
suffer from 'spleen' and are more suicide-prone than 25yrs+ people (the 
trend comes back with elderly, japanese numbers, f.i., are shocking), 
I'd think it's 'precarity', which has extended as a thick, mind-choking, 
sour blanket over the '99%' of the planet that does it. Blame that 
ideology-without-a-name in its 'local' (Indian) denomination:


http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/apr/15/neoliberalism-ideology-problem-george-monbiot

Little to cheer about,
p+5D!


[Goanet] A Crisis of Indian Students.

2016-04-16 Thread Roland
Can anyone explain the survey of 1900 students (fairly large sample) of 3 large 
Indian metropolitan cities that shows 50% of them considered suicide and of 
that number 42% tried it at least once.

This indicates a very troubling situation involving young people. 

India being India, take my word, nobody who counts will care, but they 
definitely should.

Roland Francis
Toronto