Re: [Goanet] Best way to protect migrant labor kids from snakes
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:37:47 +0100 From: Gabe Menezes I have one in my house in Goa and it works it that area, although I must admit there are still visiting rats in the night. Mario observes: Sounds like it works but does not work at the same time:-)) Gabe wrote: I must inform you though that even our biggest back break traps are no match for the 'Kolle Undir' in the garden - they simply wriggle out - injured as they are. Mario suggests: The best back break traps are called cats. Gabe wrote: In Nairobi, we had back break traps made out of steel with serrated edges, on the base. My father took some back with him to Goa - they were so effective that, one by one they disappeared! Mario observes: Sounds like a new product idea for some enterprising Goenkar. I hope Sapna is getting all this scientific information, though Fred still hasn't answered her original question:-))
Re: [Goanet] Best way to protect migrant labor kids from snakes
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is one of Goa's leading NGOs. Sangath is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and is looking to buy land of approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas If you have land to sell, please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or phone +91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html 2 > Gabe > Menezes should know, as he attempted to gift me a solution. Rahul (the > same person mentioned above) pointed out that good ole rat traps work > best in good ole Goa. After all, he should know, as he does need the > occasional rat for his pet snake. > > How's this for an instant treatise? Would you offer me a > left-of-centre cyberPhD for these few callous lines? FN > > RESPONSE: My Dear, dear Fredrico, I did not attempt - I actually delivered, I presume it did not work. It was an electronic sound emiting unit which output a high decible sound only audible to mice which made them uncomfortable! I have one in my house in Goa and it works it that area, although I must admit there are still visiting rats in the night. I have taken some back break traps to Goa and I have managed to catch just one big un! I must inform you though that even our biggest back break traps are no match for the 'Kolle Undir' in the garden - they simply wriggle out - injured as they are. In Nairobi, we had back break traps made out of steel with serrated edges, on the base. My father took some back with him to Goa - they were so effective that, one by one they disappeared! So when is the Goanetter's meeting this year? Hope to make it!! DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London.
Re: [Goanet] Best way to protect migrant labor kids from
Mario wrote:
> Not only cynical, but pretty callous as well.
>
> In the context of Sapna's question, your response says more about how
> the politically left of center think about their fellow human beings,
> while pretending to be concerned about them, than anything else you
> could have written.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:45:57 +0530
From: Frederick [FN] Noronha *
There are a growing number of snake-catchers in Goa. Even our friends
Mario and Muriel's ("Another Goa") kids Tarika and Sohail are working
on learning this skill, again if not mistaken.
But more than the snakes, the rats are also a big issue here (not to
speak of the bees), if you go by my postings over the years. Gabe
Menezes should know, as he attempted to gift me a solution. Rahul (the
same person mentioned above) pointed out that good ole rat traps work
best in good ole Goa. After all, he should know, as he does need the
occasional rat for his pet snake.
How's this for an instant treatise? Would you offer me a left-of-centre
cyberPhD for these few callous lines? FN
Mario observes:
Much better, Fred. But, to earn a Ph.D. in anything other than left-of-center
callousness you need to do much better.
For one thing, don't go stark raving bonkers every time Sapna Sahani asks a
simple question.
For another, publish a list of clinics and doctors where antidotes for snake
venom are available night and day.
No one knows who your friends Mario and Muriel are or how to reach them.
BTW, cats are far better at clearing an area of rats than any rat trap.
Re: [Goanet] Best way to protect migrant labor kids from snakes
One of Rahul Alvares' book (I think, The Call of the Snakes) has a
bizarre account of how he and a friend took the slow scooter all the
way to the Goa Medical College after he was bitten for a snake. On the
way, they even stopped at Rahul's parents' office to search for
anti-snake venom, if I recall right. By the time he reached the GMC,
Rahul was fit enough to pass out.
But then, both were snake-catchers themselves, and didn't have the
element of I-am-going-to-die shock.
There are a growing number of snake-catchers in Goa. Even our friends
Mario and Muriel's ("Another Goa") kids Tarika and Sohail are working
on learning this skill, again if not mistaken.
But more than the snakes, the rats are also a big issue here (not to
speak of the bees), if you go by my postings over the years. Gabe
Menezes should know, as he attempted to gift me a solution. Rahul (the
same person mentioned above) pointed out that good ole rat traps work
best in good ole Goa. After all, he should know, as he does need the
occasional rat for his pet snake.
How's this for an instant treatise? Would you offer me a
left-of-centre cyberPhD for these few callous lines? FN
2009/7/21 Mario Goveia :
> When I was growing up in Jabalpur it was customary
> to sleep on cots in the yard in summer and we kept
> guard dogs to warn us of snakes, which became
> more visible when the monsoons arrived. Keeping
> an area well lit seems to help as well, so a lamp may help.
>
> I have no idea where antidotes for snakebite are
> available in Goa.
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Re: [Goanet] Best way to protect migrant labor kids from snakes
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:38:27 +0530 From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * Sapna, The points you raise are very insightful, and seem aimed at helping Goans to better discover themselves :-) Were you into psychoanalysis too? I am sure this post of yours too will rake up a whole lot of "interest". Maybe I'm just too cynical. Of course, not all Goans have surnames like Colaco, Mesquita or Bhandare and Parrikar. Flame-baitingly yours, FN Mario responds: Hey, Fred, Not only cynical, but pretty callous as well. In the context of Sapna's question, your response says more about how the politically left of center think about their fellow human beings, while pretending to be concerned about them, than anything else you could have written. Mario. To, Sapna, I hope you get some better responses than the one above. However, there are some on Goanet who are about as paranoid of migrant workers as they are of a discussion about the Inquisition. When I was growing up in Jabalpur it was customary to sleep on cots in the yard in summer and we kept guard dogs to warn us of snakes, which became more visible when the monsoons arrived. Keeping an area well lit seems to help as well, so a lamp may help. I have no idea where antidotes for snakebite are available in Goa.
Re: [Goanet] Best way to protect migrant labor kids from snakes?
Sapna, The points you raise are very insightful, and seem aimed at helping Goans to better discover themselves :-) Were you into psychoanalysis too? I am sure this post of yours too will rake up a whole lot of "interest". Maybe I'm just too cynical. Of course, not all Goans have surnames like Colaco, Mesquita or Bhandare and Parrikar. Flame-baitingly yours, FN 2009/7/20 Sapna Shahani : > Hello Goanetters, > I tried to get some info on google but nothing came up, so I'm posting to > this list. If there's another email forum for this kind of question, please > let me know. > > There is a construction site right next to my house and the migrant laborers > who live in tents there are afraid their children will get bitten by snakes > since they've seen many around. My father wants to buy them a lamp so they > can see better in their tent area, but I thought there might be a better > solution. > > Please let me know what you think and also, if you know the best place for > snake bite treatment - we've heard not all hospitals are equipped with > antidotes?
[Goanet] Best way to protect migrant labor kids from snakes?
Hello Goanetters, I tried to get some info on google but nothing came up, so I'm posting to this list. If there's another email forum for this kind of question, please let me know. There is a construction site right next to my house and the migrant laborers who live in tents there are afraid their children will get bitten by snakes since they've seen many around. My father wants to buy them a lamp so they can see better in their tent area, but I thought there might be a better solution. Please let me know what you think and also, if you know the best place for snake bite treatment - we've heard not all hospitals are equipped with antidotes? Thanks, Sapna. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle
