Re: [Goanet] Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient!

2014-08-09 Thread Venantius J Pinto
RF: Or perhaps he has heard the garbage problem and wants to avoid the BJP
blaming him for it.

vjp: Brilliant.

venantius jp


On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 8:05 AM, MD  wrote:

> Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient
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> According to Catholic News Agency report, in February (2014), Cardinal
> Malcolm Ranjith of the Sri Lankan capital of Colombo had invited Pope
> Francis to visit the country and Pope Francis announced that he will visit
> Sri Lanka in January 2015. Since the Bishop of Rome is the Head of the
> State of the Vatican, an independent State (country), though smallest,
> within the city of Rome, I think a formal invitation is required, much in
> advance as the Sri Lankan Cardinal has done. Was the Pope formally invited
> as the Sri Lankan Cardinal has done? I guess as per diplomatic protocol any
> Head of State arrives first in the Capital of the host country if it is
> official visit?
> md
>
> Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient
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> Perhaps the Bishop of Rome remembers the Padroado and still wants to honor
> it.
>
> Or as a Jesuit he wants to discourage the worshipping of a long dead body
> even if the person once happened to be from his own Society.
>
> Or perhaps he thinks that Goans are so solidly devout that his visits must
> be to less faithful and more faltering Catholics.
>
> Or perhaps he has heard the garbage problem and wants to avoid the BJP
> blaming him for it.
>
> Roland.
>



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Re: [Goanet] Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient!

2014-08-09 Thread Venantius J Pinto
Consider also:

Sex, Drugs and Kochro
Im Neuen Kalvarienberg (in the New Calvary/Calvary (Kavati) Chowk).

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On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Venantius J Pinto  wrote:

> RF: Or perhaps he has heard the garbage problem and wants to avoid the BJP
> blaming him for it.
>
> vjp: Brilliant.
>
> venantius jp
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 8:05 AM, MD  wrote:
>
>> Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient
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>>
>> According to Catholic News Agency report, in February (2014), Cardinal
>> Malcolm Ranjith of the Sri Lankan capital of Colombo had invited Pope
>> Francis to visit the country and Pope Francis announced that he will visit
>> Sri Lanka in January 2015. Since the Bishop of Rome is the Head of the
>> State of the Vatican, an independent State (country), though smallest,
>> within the city of Rome, I think a formal invitation is required, much in
>> advance as the Sri Lankan Cardinal has done. Was the Pope formally invited
>> as the Sri Lankan Cardinal has done? I guess as per diplomatic protocol
>> any
>> Head of State arrives first in the Capital of the host country if it is
>> official visit?
>> md
>>
>> Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient
>> Message-ID: 
>> Perhaps the Bishop of Rome remembers the Padroado and still wants to honor
>> it.
>>
>> Or as a Jesuit he wants to discourage the worshipping of a long dead body
>> even if the person once happened to be from his own Society.
>>
>> Or perhaps he thinks that Goans are so solidly devout that his visits must
>> be to less faithful and more faltering Catholics.
>>
>> Or perhaps he has heard the garbage problem and wants to avoid the BJP
>> blaming him for it.
>>
>> Roland.
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [Goanet] Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient

2014-08-09 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
From: Antonio Menezes  

Whether it is Bombay, Pune or Sri Lanka, Goa is'nt very far away and yet the 
Bishops of Rome are reluctant to come to the Rome of the Orient.


From: Roland Francis

Perhaps the Bishop of Rome remembers ...  wants to discourage . thinks that 
Goans are so solidly devout   heard the garbage problem and wants to avoid 
the BJP .

GL responds:

Could it be as simple as the Bishop and Catholics of Goa have just not invited 
him / them?
Now two can come for the price of one ... same Vatican plane.


[Goanet] Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient

2014-08-09 Thread Antonio Menezes
Thanks Roland  (Aug 8 ) for your '' serious '' comments. It is  reaction
like this that
makes Goanet readership very interesting.

If readers will allow me , I too have a reason why the Bishops of Rome
suffer from
trepidation at the very mention of the Rome of the Orient. I am sure they
do not
suffer from I.C. at all.but may be they feel a bit uneasy to be among Goan
soldiers of Christ most of whom are of the very high dharmic  caste.

P.S.: I.C. btw stands for inferiority complex.


[Goanet] Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient!

2014-08-09 Thread MD
Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient
Message-ID: 

According to Catholic News Agency report, in February (2014), Cardinal
Malcolm Ranjith of the Sri Lankan capital of Colombo had invited Pope
Francis to visit the country and Pope Francis announced that he will visit
Sri Lanka in January 2015. Since the Bishop of Rome is the Head of the
State of the Vatican, an independent State (country), though smallest,
within the city of Rome, I think a formal invitation is required, much in
advance as the Sri Lankan Cardinal has done. Was the Pope formally invited
as the Sri Lankan Cardinal has done? I guess as per diplomatic protocol any
Head of State arrives first in the Capital of the host country if it is
official visit?
md

Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient
Message-ID: 
Perhaps the Bishop of Rome remembers the Padroado and still wants to honor
it.

Or as a Jesuit he wants to discourage the worshipping of a long dead body
even if the person once happened to be from his own Society.

Or perhaps he thinks that Goans are so solidly devout that his visits must
be to less faithful and more faltering Catholics.

Or perhaps he has heard the garbage problem and wants to avoid the BJP
blaming him for it.

Roland.


[Goanet] Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient

2014-08-09 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
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From: Antonio Menezes - Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient

Sometime in the sixties, the patrician Bishop of Rome came to Bombay and was 
welcomed by the greatest soldier of Christ in India hailing from Chinchinim/ 
Navelim region. In the eighties, the Polish Bishop of Rome visited Pune to be 
received by another soldier of Christ hailing from Sangolda. And now it seems 
the Jesuit Pope will be visiting soon Sri Lanka.  Whether it is Bombay, Pune or 
Sri Lanka, Goa is'nt very far away and yet the Bishops of Rome are reluctant to 
come to the Rome of the Orient.

GL responds:

Is the "Rome of the Orient" (whatever than means today) willing to be prepared 
to invite and receive the Pope?  Or is it wishful thinking?

Preparations for the Eucharistic Congress in Bombay in the sixties started 
several years in advance.  I recollect being a volunteer and spent some time 
learning German to be a guide and translator for German visitors to the 
Congress. There were others learning French, etc.  There were many, many 
volunteers in various aspects of the event of which the Pope's attendance was 
one; albeit important aspect of the event. 

Hosting a major event with world dignitaries is not something one can plan on 
Goanet.  Initially, many individuals have to be prepared to roll up their 
sleeves and contribute 3Ts (time, talent and treasury) for a successful event.

Goa should start by hosting meetings of the Bishops and Cardinals of India, and 
perhaps Asia; or perhaps a convocation its own former provinces, when it used 
to be "Rome of the Orient."

Regards, GL


Re: [Goanet] Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient

2014-08-08 Thread roland.francis
Perhaps the Bishop of Rome remembers the Padroado and still wants to honor it.

Or as a Jesuit he wants to discourage the worshipping of a long dead body even 
if the person once happened to be from his own Society.

Or perhaps he thinks that Goans are so solidly devout that his visits must be 
to less faithful and more faltering Catholics.

Or perhaps he has heard the garbage problem and wants to avoid the BJP blaming 
him for it.

Roland.

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Date: 08-08-2014  10:34 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
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Whether it is Bombay, Pune or Sri Lanka, Goa is'nt very far away and yet
the Bishops of Rome are reluctant to come to the Rome of the Orient.


[Goanet] Bishops of Rome and Rome of the Orient

2014-08-08 Thread Antonio Menezes
Sometime in the sixties, the patrician Bishop of Rome came to Bombay and
was
welcomed by the greatest soldier of Christ in India hailing from
Chinchinim/Navelim
region. In the eighties, the Polish Bishop of Rome visited Pune to be
received by
another soldier of Christ hailing from Sangolda. And now it seems the
Jesuit  Pope
will be visiting soon Sri Lanka.

Whether it is Bombay, Pune or Sri Lanka, Goa is'nt very far away and yet
the Bishops of Rome are reluctant to come to the Rome of the Orient.