[Goanet] Bombay East Indians

2017-05-20 Thread eric pinto


   The small English speaking elite of Bandra called a convention in 1887where 
several resolutions were voted on and approved. The first motionrequested the 
government to cease the use of the term 'norteiros' to classify the group. In 
reference to public employment, a plea was madeon behalf of the self proclaimed 
'Bombay East Indians' for job reservations  in appreciation the group's former 
service to the East India Company.  Then Crown 
Governor Lord Reay was reluctant to grant a formal consent to the demand. 
    I have spoken to Chaul natives over the years. They continue to use the 
old language and call themselves 'Norteiros.'
 From: Marshall Mendonza
That was a very interesting article Eric. Thanks for enriching our
knowledge. However, I could not figure out one of the statements. viz. that
the local Christian population in Bandra were called 'East Indians" due to
their close relationship with the East India Company. Local Christians all
over Bombay, whether in Mazagaon or Andheri or Sahar or Kurla or Chembur
and even in Vasai (Bassein), Uttan, Bhayandar, Nala Sopara etc are all
generically called "East Indians'.

Regards,

Marshall


   

   


[Goanet] "Bombay East Indians"

2011-11-04 Thread eric pinto
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   Jorge -  for starters, try a more appropriate label: you are a west coast 
native.  You once worshiped Mumbadevi.
The first of your cousins to slip on trousers called a convention in Bandra, 
around 1880: only order of the day, a resolution that rechristened Marathi 
peasants who now worshipped differently, "Bombay East Indians."  It was 
forwarded to Governor Duncan.  May I remind you that the Padroado diocese 
switched to English from Portuguese around 1930.
  Catholics have progressed from Portuguese, to English to -- patois.  This 
cannot be labeled progress. We survive in an environnment in which store 
employees ignore shoppers who do not use the vernacular, and bureaucrats are 
downright rude to supplicants who do not fit the mould.
  So try again: bury the soul of D'Monte, the 1880 tribal chief.  Call 
yourselves Mumbai Kristis, speak the language of your neighbour's hearts, and 
endear yourselves to them.  A Bassein native who lived in my home for eight 
years left me fluent in Marathi: I do not feel sorry for myself. eric.

Look at the Jain Community whatever gold coins, diamonds, silver,
foodgrains, sugar, ghee, money, etc the wealthy jains donate to the jain
temples the caretakers of the jain temples redistribute the gold coins,
diamonds, silver, money, etc to the poor jains this way the wealth of the
jains remains within the jain community no wonder the jain community is the
richest community in India.

Some Mangalorean Konkani Catholic Associations in Bombay/Vasai are doing an
excellent job in utilizing church parish halls in providing some basic
training to those mangalorean catholic youth who are interested in becoming
IAS/IPS officers………eastindian associations which are only interested in
organizing singing competitions & food festivals should learn a few things
from the mangaloreian.

150 years back the native catholics in bombay known by the name EastIndians
(  www.bombayland.blogspot.com ) possessed most of the lands in
bombay……but 90% of the eastindians were reduced to a status of backward
class because they lost all their ancestral lands in bombay to the british
raj, Indian govt, maharashtra govt, bmc, collectorsoffice, slumlords,
landmafia, righwinghindugroups, political groups, buildersmafia, mmrda,
mhada……..and due to Alcoholism, Infighting & Jealousy the 90% eastindians
have become more poor………the other 10% eastindians in bombay who were able
to save some of their lands became wealthy by selling away their lands 1980
onwards to the builders lobby…….these 10% wealthy eastindians have no
interest in helping the other 90% poor eastindians.and since
eastindians ( www.east-indians.com ) are christians it is not easy to get
jobs in bombay and since the catholic clergy have programmed the
eastindians to remain non-combative, non-ambitious, non-aggressive,
susegaad, dormant, politically inactive due to which eastindians are not in
a position to demand reservations of 5% in government jobs in bombay.

Jorge Monteiro
Bombay.