Re: [Goanet] Destroying Goa, one hillside at a time
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: This morning I got a good look at the mega-monstrosity coming up on the hillside at Reis Magos. It is visible from Panjim, across the water from Children's Park. But for a really expansive view, you have to go to Verem. Think about it: these will all be outsiders, many of them with ill-gotten money,ooccupying the flats and villas constructed by destroying an irreplaceable piece of Goan land. This represents the dismantling of Goa. We thought Parrikar would be the man to finally put an end to this. Looks like we erred. Manohar Parrikar has been silent about this and the other 2 mega-projects (Ashok Beleza and Ocean Park). Why is Dr. Anand Virgincar, Parrikar's #1 shill, silent about this? Dr. Virgincar is a brilliant man, a good human being, who has nothing personal to gain from his activism, who cares about and loves Goa deeply. I publicly appeal to him to call on his dear friend, the Chief Minister, to immediately halt these atrocities. On Sun, 17 Mar 2013, Albert Peres wrote : What you call monstrosity, others call Human Development. You see concrete. I see investment. I see new, clean, dry, strong, homes. I see bettering of a standard of living. I see the arrival of new Goan citizens and visitors. I see rising expectations. I see the call for new services. I see opportunities. I see new jobs. New careers. I see a population level rising to sustain improved standard of healthcare and education institutions. Growing purchasing levels that will lower the cost of introducing improved products. I see an increasing life expectancy. I see a new Goa rising. The world moves. Progress is not confined to just other places. With wisdom and guidance. Here is what Goa will look like in the next 50-100 years. Search:Google.com Tab:Images, Photos of Lisbon, or, Photos of London. Beautiful. Some of the infrastructure of these older cities may of indeed been paid for by what you today judgmentally call, 'ill-gotten money.' Likely not.Most of the development is the result of plain old fashion hard work. In the end it matters not. If they were lucky, past citizens enjoyed the fruits of their labour. Those initial investors are now dead and gone. But one thing for sure, wherever we live, today we enjoy their investment, their hard work, and their strong drive for progress. Mr. Parrikar, God did not bequeath Goa to Goans. Goa belongs to who work for her. And those who invest in her future. Albert Peres MY COMMENTS: Albert-bab, surely it is obvious that Rajan-bab is not against development. But development has to be planned, has to be sustainable and non-polluting, beneficial to Goans and it has to take place with enough respect to the environment. I am sure you will agree with this and that this is how Goa must progress in the long term. But this is certainly not the way things are happening in Goa today. The way we are headed, Goa will soon become an overcrowded, stinking, lawless, concretized mess, where corruption, money, power and crime reign supreme. Today we live in fear due to the steep rise in crime. While states like Bihar are vehement on special status for themselves, we are lukewarm on the issue. We are slowly becoming a minority in our own land yet we are hellbent on inviting more and more people to Goa even though we do not have the required infrastructure for this. Today in all parts of Goa, we face a shortage of even the most basic necessity, water! If something still remains of Goa that can be salvaged, it is solely because of people like Rajan-bab and several others who selflessly give of their time, money and energy to better our land. These are the people we need to salute. But unfortunately, those with deep pockets and no conscience are those who have the most influence today. Who care only for themselves and their kin. And who fund our election campaigns. We invite them as sponsors for our Carnival, Shigmo, and other supposed tourism-related events. Then while we make merry, they flout rules for the sake of their ill-begotten money-making schemes. Obviously it becomes a question of I scratch your back, you scratch mine. Or as the more graphic Konkani saying goes, Hanv tujem b***k khorpitam, tum mojem b***k khorp! Do we want another Mumbai, another Dharavi in Goa? Is it an Utopian dream to believe that Goa can still be turned around, that the mindless mega buildings, the filth, the corruption, the horrific assaults to the environment, can be stopped? We need leaders with the right vision to take charge of our collective destiny. Read this article which appeared not so long ago in Tehelka and maybe you will begin to realise that WITH THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP, sustainable development is certainly possible in Goa.. http://archive.tehelka.com/story_main54.asp?filename=Ne201012VILLAGE.asp For the benefit of readers too lazy to click on the link :-) the said article in plain text is appended below. DM Ramesh Menon reports on a village in
Re: [Goanet] Destroying Goa, one hillside at a time
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: This morning I got a good look at the mega-monstrosity coming up on the hillside at Reis Magos. It is visible from Panjim, across the water from Children's Park. But for a really expansive view, you have to go to Verem. Think about it: these will all be outsiders, many of them with ill-gotten money,ooccupying the flats and villas constructed by destroying an irreplaceable piece of Goan land. This represents the dismantling of Goa. We thought Parrikar would be the man to finally put an end to this. Looks like we erred. Manohar Parrikar has been silent about this and the other 2 mega-projects (Ashok Beleza and Ocean Park). Why is Dr. Anand Virgincar, Parrikar's #1 shill, silent about this? Dr. Virgincar is a brilliant man, a good human being, who has nothing personal to gain from his activism, who cares about and loves Goa deeply. I publicly appeal to him to call on his dear friend, the Chief Minister, to immediately halt these atrocities. On Sun, 17 Mar 2013, Albert Peres wrote : What you call monstrosity, others call Human Development. You see concrete. I see investment. I see new, clean, dry, strong, homes. I see bettering of a standard of living. I see the arrival of new Goan citizens and visitors. I see rising expectations. I see the call for new services. I see opportunities. I see new jobs. New careers. I see a population level rising to sustain improved standard of healthcare and education institutions. Growing purchasing levels that will lower the cost of introducing improved products. I see an increasing life expectancy. I see a new Goa rising. The world moves. Progress is not confined to just other places. With wisdom and guidance. Here is what Goa will look like in the next 50-100 years. Search:Google.com Tab:Images, Photos of Lisbon, or, Photos of London. Beautiful. Some of the infrastructure of these older cities may of indeed been paid for by what you today judgmentally call, 'ill-gotten money.' Likely not.Most of the development is the result of plain old fashion hard work. In the end it matters not. If they were lucky, past citizens enjoyed the fruits of their labour. Those initial investors are now dead and gone. But one thing for sure, wherever we live, today we enjoy their investment, their hard work, and their strong drive for progress. Mr. Parrikar, God did not bequeath Goa to Goans. Goa belongs to who work for her. And those who invest in her future. Albert Peres MY COMMENTS: Albert-bab, surely it is obvious that Rajan-bab is not against development. But development has to be planned, has to be sustainable and non-polluting, beneficial to Goans and it has to take place with enough respect to the environment. I am sure you will agree with this and that this is how Goa must progress in the long term. But this is certainly not the way things are happening in Goa today. The way we are headed, Goa will soon become an overcrowded, stinking, lawless, concretized mess, where corruption, money, power and crime reign supreme. Today we live in fear due to the steep rise in crime. While states like Bihar are vehement on special status for themselves, we are lukewarm on the issue. We are slowly becoming a minority in our own land yet we are hellbent on inviting more and more people to Goa even though we do not have the required infrastructure for this. Today in all parts of Goa, we face a shortage of even the most basic necessity, water! If something still remains of Goa that can be salvaged, it is solely because of people like Rajan-bab and several others who selflessly give of their time, money and energy to better our land. These are the people we need to salute. But unfortunately, those with deep pockets and no conscience are those who have the most influence today. Who care only for themselves and their kin. And who fund our election campaigns. We invite them as sponsors for our Carnival, Shigmo, and other supposed tourism-related events. Then while we make merry, they flout rules for the sake of their ill-begotten money-making schemes. Obviously it becomes a question of I scratch your back, you scratch mine. Or as the more graphic Konkani saying goes, Hanv tujem b***k khorpitam, tum mojem b***k khorp! Do we want another Mumbai, another Dharavi in Goa? Is it an Utopian dream to believe that Goa can still be turned around, that the mindless mega buildings, the filth, the corruption, the horrific assaults to the environment, can be stopped? We need leaders with the right vision to take charge of our collective destiny. Read this article which appeared not so long ago in Tehelka and maybe you will begin to realise that WITH THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP, sustainable development is certainly possible in Goa.. http://archive.tehelka.com/story_main54.asp?filename=Ne201012VILLAGE.asp For the benefit of readers too lazy to click on the link :-) the said article in plain text is appended below. DM Ramesh Menon reports on a village in
[Goanet] Destroying Goa, one hillside at a time ?
All this so called Rising expectations,growing purchasing levels etc are all well and Good if they will benefit the people of the area. Sadly, one can see that those who are going to benefit aren't the original people of Goa who will remain impoverished as they will not be able to afford the type of facilities that are being constructed on pristine hills which are being vandalized by those greedy developers whose sole purpose is to enrich themselves at the expense of the environment and the people of Goa. Think of the environmental destruction by this indiscriminate development besides the damage to the eco system due to no environmental assessment or master plan. We as Goans should preserve the unspoiled wilderness areas for posterity so that generations of Goans who come after us will have fresh air, water, and greenery to not only sustain their lives but enrich their inner selves with the pristine beauty of this paradise which is only on loan to us from future generations who come after us. Let us preserve these Dongos and Jungles and be guardians of the heritage which our forefathers left to us as an inheritance to be handed down to our progeny for posterity. Manuel (Eddie) Tavares
Re: [Goanet] Destroying Goa, one hillside at a time ?
Dear Mr. Parrikar, What you call monstrosity, others call Human Development. You see concrete. I see investment. I see new, clean, dry, strong, homes. I see bettering of a standard of living. I see the arrival of new Goan citizens and visitors. I see rising expectations. I see the call for new services. I see opportunities. I see new jobs. New careers. I see a population level rising to sustain improved standard of healthcare and education institutions. Growing purchasing levels that will lower the cost of introducing improved products. I see an increasing life expectancy. I see a new Goa rising. The world moves. Progress is not confined to just other places. With wisdom and guidance. Here is what Goa will look like in the next 50-100 years. Search:Google.com Tab:Images, Photos of Lisbon, or, Photos of London. Beautiful. Some of the infrastructure of these older cities may of indeed been paid for by what you today judgmentally call, 'ill-gotten money.' Likely not. Most of the development is the result of plain old fashion hard work. In the end it matters not. If they were lucky, past citizens enjoyed the fruits of their labour. Those initial investors are now dead and gone. But one thing for sure, wherever we live, today we enjoy their investment, their hard work, and their strong drive for progress. Mr. Parrikar, God did not bequeath Goa to Goans. Goa belongs to who work for her. And those who invest in her future. --- Albert Peres afpe...@3129.ca 416.660.0847 --- Rajan P. Parrikar parrikar at yahoo.com wrote --- Fri Mar 15 21:44:14 PDT 2013 look at the mega-monstrosity coming up on the hillside at Reis Magos. It is visible from Panjim, across the waterfrom Children's Park. But for a really expansive view, you have to go to Verem. Think about it: these will all be outsiders, many of them with ill-gotten money, occupying the flats and villas constructed by destroying an irreplaceable piece of Goan land. This represents the dismantling of Goa.
Re: [Goanet] Destroying Goa, one hillside at a time
I am forwarding an entry made by Dr. Anil Desai on Goa Speaks in response to my original post. * Rajanbab, Goa foundation had shown very clearly how DLF had committed illegality by cutting hills in their Daboli project. That project could have been stopped to send a clear signal to others that illlegalities that were condoned by the previous corrupt Kangress government will not be tolerated any more. That requires nerve of steel and the backing of the populace. The latter was there last April and this is why it is tragic that no action has been taken against a single project in the last 12 months, nor has this government done anything or even said anything to discourage non-goans from buying the expensive apartments or villas that most Goans patently cannot afford to buy. In major trauma, in surgery, we call the first hour after major trauma as the golden hour and we recognise that if we do not do anything to reverse the effects of trauma in the first hour, the patient usually dies. I am afraid the golden year has been wasted. Now, with a scheme like Mopa, there will be attempts to topple the government. A wonderful opportunity given by Goans has been lost. As our friend George has often said and you have said it too, I have to reluctantly agree: It is RIP Goa. * r On Mar 15, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com wrote: To Goanet - Manohar-bab, this is what is happening under your watch. This morning I got a good look at the mega-monstrosity coming up on the hillside at Reis Magos. It is visible from Panjim, across the water from Children's Park. But for a really expansive view, you have to go to Verem. Think about it: these will all be outsiders, many of them with ill-gotten money, occupying the flats and villas constructed by destroying an irreplaceable piece of Goan land. This represents the dismantling of Goa. We thought Parrikar would be the man to finally put an end to this. Looks like we erred. Manohar Parrikar has been silent about this and the other 2 mega-projects (Ashok Beleza and Ocean Park). Why is Dr. Anand Virgincar, Parrikar's #1 shill, silent about this? Dr. Virgincar is a brilliant man, a good human being, who has nothing personal to gain from his activism, who cares about and loves Goa deeply. I publicly appeal to him to call on his dear friend, the Chief Minister, to immediately halt these atrocities. Here is the wide view seen from Verem - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/reismagos1.jpg And these are close-ups of 3 sections. From these you can guage the magnitude and extent of the permanent damage being done to the Reis Magos hill - http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/reismagos2.jpg http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/reismagos3.jpg http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/reismagos4.jpg r
Re: [Goanet] Destroying Goa, one hillside at a time ?
On 17 March 2013 05:07, Albert Peres afpe...@3129.ca wrote: Dear Mr. Parrikar, What you call monstrosity, others call Human Development. You see concrete. I see investment. I see new, clean, dry, strong, homes. I see bettering of a standard of living. I see the arrival of new Goan citizens and visitors. I see rising expectations. I see the call for new services. I see opportunities. I see new jobs. New careers. COMMENT, Dear Mr. Albert Peres, I accept. You have written eloquently about what YOU see. I too see the arrival of NEW Goans, and the expectations you listed. I wish you had written a bit more about: The OLD Goans (as in elderly), the effect of this uncontrolled development on Food, Water and Energy supply, the presence/absence of Health and Support infrastructure, the effect on the environment (and water table), pollution and on flood/landslide control..etc. I agree entirely that development and investment helps a place and its people to grow along with benefits for the investors. This would be of particular use to SENIOR citizens (of the place) who have struggled all their lives and should (in a reasonable and caring society) expect to survive comfortably with reasonable health care, food and living during their golden years. That is what is one forecasts reasonably in 'controlled' development. On the other hand, the defenders of 'uncontrolled' development are effectively saying the following: This is the era of NEW Goans. It is time for them to make way for those with money who wish to have a third or fourth holiday home. The Old and Elderly Goans have lived and enjoyed Goa enough. Like disposable syringes and old mobile phones, it is time to discard them. jc
Re: [Goanet] Destroying Goa, one hillside at a time ?
Well said that, Mr. Albert Peres, We can see that you are probably talking facing Frisco's city scape from the Golden Gate Bridge? Or the smog covered Los Angeles? Pray tell us why these goddammed investors who rush to GOA can't go the Himachal Pradesh? Jammu Kashmir?; Even Chatishgarh etc? Why only in GOA? To send Goans to Frisco and Toronto and New Jersey and Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne and Swindon??? to make place for migrants in GOA who run after school girls with knifes to cut their throats and fingers? and for robbers, thieves and scroundrels who break open houses even in daylight hours and decamp with Goan Gold Jewellery, cash and life support in lakhs?? the things that GOA had not seen for hundreds of years?? You should come down to your Goa and share with us some of those secrets and benefits of DEVELOPMENT and for whom those are meant for, and we shall garland your neck with other pretty things rather than waste pretty flowers on it. Well said, indeed. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org - Original Message - From: Albert Peres afpe...@3129.ca To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Destroying Goa, one hillside at a time ? Dear Mr. Parrikar, What you call monstrosity, others call Human Development. You see concrete. I see investment. I see new, clean, dry, strong, homes. I see bettering of a standard of living. I see the arrival of new Goan citizens and visitors. I see rising expectations. I see the call for new services. I see opportunities. I see new jobs. New careers. I see a population level rising to sustain improved standard of healthcare and education institutions. Growing purchasing levels that will lower the cost of introducing improved products. I see an increasing life expectancy. I see a new Goa rising. The world moves. Progress is not confined to just other places. With wisdom and guidance. Here is what Goa will look like in the next 50-100 years. Search:Google.com Tab:Images, Photos of Lisbon, or, Photos of London. Beautiful. Some of the infrastructure of these older cities may of indeed been paid for by what you today judgmentally call, 'ill-gotten money.' Likely not. Most of the development is the result of plain old fashion hard work. In the end it matters not. If they were lucky, past citizens enjoyed the fruits of their labour. Those initial investors are now dead and gone. But one thing for sure, wherever we live, today we enjoy their investment, their hard work, and their strong drive for progress. Mr. Parrikar, God did not bequeath Goa to Goans. Goa belongs to who work for her. And those who invest in her future. --- Albert Peres afpe...@3129.ca 416.660.0847 --- Rajan P. Parrikar parrikar at yahoo.com wrote --- Fri Mar 15 21:44:14 PDT 2013 look at the mega-monstrosity coming up on the hillside at Reis Magos. It is visible from Panjim, across the waterfrom Children's Park. But for a really expansive view, you have to go to Verem. Think about it: these will all be outsiders, many of them with ill-gotten money, occupying the flats and villas constructed by destroying an irreplaceable piece of Goan land. This represents the dismantling of Goa.
