Re: [Goanet] [goanet] Extortionate fees

2009-06-19 Thread Tony de Sa
This letter was published in the Herald on 19/06/2009

*Heartless schools
Bosco Vaz, Mapusa*
It has become a heartless routine by certain school managements to collect
donations. A school in Mapusa run by nuns has denied admissions to the
students unless they gave donations towards the school. The parents were
forced to part with a minimum of Rs 5000 to the nuns, or they had to hunt
else where for admissions. I have heard that even the SSC students were
denied hall tickets till their parents gave a donation.
If you have no money there is no need to have a kindergarten in the school.
For whose glory are the nuns running the school which has no playground for
the tiny tots to exercise, and no proper teachers, so much so that many are
forced to go for private tuitions?
---
Sort of vindicates my point?
-- 
tony

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[Goanet] Extortionate fees

2009-06-17 Thread SHRIKANT BARVE

“Teaching and learning are not philanthropic activities. Teachers are not gurus 
disinterestedly giving their time to society. The whole business needs money to 
be sustained.” Augusto Pinto

Government is reimbursing almost all the expenses (salary to staff + rent + 
maintainance) of educational institution in Goa. 

Why not education institution can not raise money for its expansion, high 
standard of material to be used by students and other development activities 
through its goodwill? 

Shrikant Vinayak Barve
Convener: We Love Ayurved
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[Goanet] Extortionate fees

2009-06-17 Thread Tony de Sa
Receipt of Grant-in-Aid is governed by rules and regulations. Those
accepting grants bind themselves to the terms and conditions of the grant as
prescribed by the Education Act and Rules. Fees other than those actually
prescribed are illegal.

If managements feel these (prescribed fees) are inadequate, then they are
free to go private always providing they adhere to the  act. Meaning they
cannot charge extortionate fees. Protests from South Goa validate my point.

Educational excellence is not a just matter of having a posh building and
equipment. No doubt it is a contributing factor. There are lots of factors
that go into it which devolve round human abilities - on the part of
management, faculty and students.

Check out how Pierre and Marie Curie discovered Polonium and Radium. In a
drafty shed or out doors slogging over a giant vat. (No Jet propulsion
laboratory for them!)
And after all, Einstien came up with his theory of Relativity in a patent
office!


Tony de Sa
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[Goanet] Extortionate fees

2009-06-17 Thread augusto pinto
Tony D'Sa wrote to goanet:
"Schools in Goa are governed by the School Education Act and Rules. The Act
and Rules explicitly state that schools shall not charge fees beyond those
which are prescribed in the Rules. In spite of this there are schools in
North Goa which are charging extortionate fees which are beyond the scope of
the School Education Act and Rules.

Understandably, schools do charge a small amount at the beginning of the
academic year to cover the cost of the calendar, journal, term fees, exam
paper fees and the like, but these can amount to Rs. two or three hundred at
the most. Anything more than that is uncalled for.

In the month of June, parents are saddled with expenses like uniforms,
school bags, raincoat, stationery, etc. To add to their burden by charging
illegal fees is unwarranted. Many school managements force gullible parents
to pay dubious and illegal fees such as for the following: text books and
work books which are not prescribed, all manner of deposits, building
maintenance fund (aren't the managements raking in money as rent from the
Government?), uniforms to be stitched by the school tailor/ contractor, etc..."

He has correctly pointed out what may amount to corruption in our
school system although his fear of naming names is a typically Goan
trait. However the fact that people are not queuing up to provide the
evidence indicates that people are quite happy with the state of
affairs

His post has an interesting underlying  underlying question however:
how should education be funded? Teaching and learning are not
philanthropic activities. Teachers are not gurus disinterestedly
giving their time to society. The whole business needs money to be
sustained.

Tony himself would be a good person to reminisce on this issue having
had personal experience of a wide variety of educational funding
patterns as student, teacher, and administrator: a capitalist one in
Kenya and Goa (prior to the G-I-A Code of circa 1973); and the
situation after that.

Now while "Schools in Goa are governed by the School Education Act and
Rules." is the government funding sufficient to meet the real need (if
not the greed) of school managements?

Augusto

-- 


Augusto Pinto
40, Novo Portugal,
Moira, Bardez,
Goa, India
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P 0832-2470336
M 9881126350


[Goanet] Extortionate fees

2009-06-14 Thread augusto pinto
Mogall Goanetter-ano

MR Tony D'Sa boroita:

"Schools in Goa are governed by the School Education Act and Rules. The Act
and Rules explicitly state that schools shall not charge fees beyond those
which are prescribed in the Rules. In spite of this there are schools in
North Goa which are charging extortionate fees which are beyond the scope of
the School Education Act and Rules."

Hanv mhunnta, kiteak  Mr Tony D'Sa is pulling down pants of ishkholl
and all? ...

Arre mhaka tea  Mr. D'Sa-ak vicharunk zai ki  IF ishkholl did not
charge fees of all kinds from
ishtudents in order to meet expenses not covered by the maintenance
grant of the government ki bab how they will survive?

Mr D'Sa makes unsubstantiated allegations to tarnish the fair name of
all the ishkhols in Goa (except village ishkolls). Kiteak baba ancheam
ishkhollanchim nanvam piddear korrunk sodhta? Why spoiling name  of
ishkhols of Goa which are heroically contributing yeoman service to
our backward society, and uplifting the downtrodden in ways hitherto
thought unthinkable?

Mogall Goaanetter-ano tumi fudem sorron Mr Tony D'Sa -bab-ak
vincharunk-zai ki hem litem baba kortai tem. Or else provide evidence
to back his allegations.

Amchea ishkhollannim amkam voir kadd'le; ho MrTony D'sa kiteak tancheo
ched'dio devounk sodhta?

Tumcho

Augusto

-- 


Augusto Pinto
40, Novo Portugal,
Moira, Bardez,
Goa, India
E pinto...@gmail.com or ypinto...@yahoo.co.in
P 0832-2470336
M 9881126350


[Goanet] Extortionate fees

2009-06-13 Thread Tony de Sa
Schools in Goa are governed by the School Education Act and Rules. The Act
and Rules explicitly state that schools shall not charge fees beyond those
which are prescribed in the Rules. In spite of this there are schools in
North Goa which are charging extortionate fees which are beyond the scope of
the School Education Act and Rules.

Understandably, schools do charge a small amount at the beginning of the
academic year to cover the cost of the calendar, journal, term fees, exam
paper fees and the like, but these can amount to Rs. two or three hundred at
the most. Anything more than that is uncalled for.

In the month of June, parents are saddled with expenses like uniforms,
school bags, raincoat, stationery, etc. To add to their burden by charging
illegal fees is unwarranted. Many school managements force gullible parents
to pay dubious and illegal fees such as for the following: text books and
work books which are not prescribed, all manner of deposits, building
maintenance fund (aren't the managements raking in money as rent from the
Government?), uniforms to be stitched by the school tailor/ contractor, etc.

The Education Department needs to investigate the matter thoroughly. I may
add here that this practice is not so much prevalent in the village schools
as in the city schools.

-- 
tony

Tony de Sa
Ph: +91 832 2470 148
M: +91 9975162897
E:  tonyd...@gmail.com

"The future will be better tomorrow." - Dan Quayle