Re: [Goanet] Funnies from bhailo rascal

2009-09-27 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
What is your point? You can't dismiss an argument by arguing against a
person. FN

2009/9/27 Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com:
 To Goanet -

 From the department of laugh-him-out-of-town - we now
 have a bhailo scum dispensing advice to Goans on the
 course Goa should take.  This is the same fellow, mind
 you, who would be in jail if the law had been allowed to
 take its course.

 Dear bhailo slumdog, get over it.  You don't get to tell Goans
 what to and what not to do.  Go back to your Indian sewer.

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin:
argument to the person or argument against the person) is an
argument which links the validity of a premise to a characteristic or
belief of a person advocating the premise
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

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[Goanet] Goanet] Funnies from bhailo rascal

2009-09-27 Thread Samir Kelekar
What is your point? You can't dismiss an argument by arguing against a
person. FN

Hi FN:
We will have all the time to listen to Sinha's vision for Goa once he
does his jail term for the molestation.

Reminds me of great hackers who get arrested by the FBI. First, they
do their jail term, and then are hired by FBI itself as security consultants.

regards,
Samir





  


Re: [Goanet] Funnies from bhailo rascal

2009-09-27 Thread J. Colaco jc
I do not know exactly what Rajan's point is - though I have a fair idea.

My point is this

Just imagine the dictator Salazar giving us a lecture on Democracy.

Or Mugabe, Hitler and Pol Pot advising us on Human Rights.

What would a reasonable person's reaction be?

May I also ask - If the Goa journos did a follow up on the
'Sinna-man's' issue AND/OR if the Goa advocates who go after
'Scarlett' mothers and others, sought to have the Goa Children's Act
2003 ...enforced?

jc



[1] Rajan Parrikar wrote:

From the department of laugh-him-out-of-town - we now have a bhailo
scum dispensing advice to Goans on the course Goa should take.  This
is the same fellow, mind you, who would be in jail if the law had been
allowed to take its course.

Dear bhailo slumdog, get over it.  You don't get to tell Goans what to
and what not to do.  Go back to your Indian sewer.


[2] Frederick [FN] Noronha :

 What is your point? You can't dismiss an argument by arguing against
a  person. FN


Re: [Goanet] Goanet] Funnies from bhailo rascal

2009-09-27 Thread Frederick Noronha
Even if you don't like what the editor of the Navhind Times is saying in 
this and other editorials/articles, it is not fair to argue by making 
allegations against his reputation. This is an ad hominem attack.


QUOTE

/Ad hominem/ abusive (also called /argumentum ad personam/) usually and 
most notoriously involves insulting 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insult or belittling one's opponent, but 
can also involve pointing out factual but ostensible character flaws or 
actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is 
logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about 
the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical 
merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.


This tactic is frequently employed as a propaganda 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda tool among politicians 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician who are attempting to 
influence the voter base in their favor through an appeal to emotion 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion rather than by logical 
means, especially when their own position is logically weaker than their 
opponent's.


*Examples:*

   * You can't believe Jack when he says God exists. He doesn't even
 have a job.
   * Candidate Jane's proposal about zoning is ridiculous. She was
 caught cheating on her taxes in 2003.

UNQUOTE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Ad_hominem_abusive


Samir Kelekar wrote:

What is your point? You can't dismiss an argument by arguing against a
person. FN



Hi FN:
We will have all the time to listen to Sinha's vision for Goa once he
does his jail term for the molestation.

Reminds me of great hackers who get arrested by the FBI. First, they
do their jail term, and then are hired by FBI itself as security consultants.