Re: [Goanet] GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip & pics)

2010-10-17 Thread soter
I feel JoeGoa has jumped to assumptions which need not necessarily be true 
about people's concern for issues about Goa.
Why should people of Goa only be expected to attend a GBA rally and not 
other rallies? Who decides what is political, secular, ..in Goa's 
interest?
Information gathered shows that people had mostly come to Panjim at their 
own cost on 18 Dec. 2006. Who claimed 2 for bus transport?
How much support did GBA ensure when similar public meetings were 
organised by the Ganv Ghor Rakhonn Manch and other groups against mega 
projects in villages?
What has been the stance of GBA from June 2007 in ensuring that a new 
participatory planning process is in place for Goa? It is cheering the 
RP2021 which is prepared under a body and law that does not recognise Gram 
Sabhas. You declare the RP first or change the laws first, which is 
logical? What do mere press notes and words like 'participatory' or 
'73rd/74th Amendment' mean after looking at the overall stance of GBA 
which appears to be dictated by real estate interests?
Who drew the crowds in 2007 and thereafter who claimed the credit and was 
promoted as the hero by vested political interests? Who termed uprisings 
in  Gram Sabhas as anarchism? Who supported real estate development as a 
need for Goa? Who christened non-goans as goans?
What has GBA done to take views of people from across the board, 
irrespective if they are members or not,  to chart out a participatory 
course of action and philosophy on planning processes? Should people of 
Goa follow like goats what is dictated by a bunch of controversial 
architects, engineers environmentalists, and political agents?
December18, 2007 was a participatory effort of several goans, many of whom 
worked behind the curtains without recognition, but were systematically 
shunned thereafter because of their hard stand against the TCP Act and the 
present process of planning. Inflated egos from the success of the rallies 
in 2006-07 bit the very hands that fed them and played God and match maker 
for Digu.  The masses are not asses as some elitist luminaries think.

-Soter



Re: [Goanet] GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip & pics)

2010-10-16 Thread Joe lOBO


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Subject: [Goanet] GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip & pics)


GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip & pics)

clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn19byDKfM

Where is everybody?
For god sake it was not something meant for a particular religion
Nor it was meant for a particular community or tribe or caste
It was for Goa or Goans as a whole.

Why should we go?
It’s not our Job, we don’t understand it any way.

What’s in there for us?
Meaning – Cash incentives, Free transport, snacks/drinks etc

(Some southern Political rallies etc, leaders offer Rs.15,000 to whoever
organises a bus full of people (say 25-30). Out of which he will
have to pay Rs.100 per head and the bus charges say
Rs.2000-3000). Snacks and water bottles borned by the politicians.
(Looks like we even accept cash to stay out)

Who else will be there?
Meaning Celebrities like Hema Sardesai, Remo Fernandes,
Oscar Rebello, Prince Jacob, Nana Patekar etc

(if nothing for us then..)

Ami paunaim
(We are not free)

Some may say 'Will let you know'
Meaning - after consulting their political leaders to whom they support

When the horse is thirsty, one can only take the horse to the pond
and not the pond to the horse

Ami nidentle kedna utt’ttole gai?
(When will we wake up?)

At first, on seeing the situation at around 4.30pm,
we even thought the meeting might have been cancelled
as the CM is out of Goa etc

The police force outnumbered those who actually present.
Police were on all side of the Azad Maidan.
Infact, two of the 4 gates were seen closed, guarded by police
There were 5 police buses, one of Lady Police only.

Where is everybody?
If you take away 50 odd media/press persons,
the remainder would be less than 150 that’s around 5.30pm

Imagine, what would be the resultant figure if we also
take away Moira, Tivim, Nuvem, Ambelim etc delegation /group

Amongst others, we also saw Fr. Erimito Rebelo,
Prajal Sakhardande, Florian Lobo etc

In this clip you will also see 2-3 speakers in the later half
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn19byDKfM

For pics sent earlier, you may refer this link
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-October/200257.html




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[Goanet] GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip & pics)

2010-10-15 Thread JoeGoaUk
GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip & pics)
 
clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn19byDKfM

Where is everybody?
For god sake it was not something  meant for a particular religion
Nor it was meant for a particular community or tribe or caste
It was for Goa or Goans as a whole.
 
Why should we go?
It’s not our Job, we don’t understand it any way.
 
What’s in there for us?
Meaning – Cash incentives, Free transport, snacks/drinks etc
 
(Some southern Political rallies etc, leaders offer Rs.15,000  to whoever
organises a bus full of people (say 25-30). Out of which he will
 have to pay Rs.100 per head and the bus charges say 
Rs.2000-3000). Snacks and water bottles borned by the politicians.
(Looks like we even accept cash to stay out)
 
Who else will be there?
Meaning Celebrities like Hema Sardesai, Remo Fernandes, 
Oscar Rebello, Prince Jacob, Nana Patekar etc
 
(if nothing for us then..)
 
Ami paunaim
(We are not free)
 
Some may say 'Will let you know'
Meaning - after consulting their political leaders to whom they support
 
When the horse is thirsty, one can only take the horse to the pond 
and not  the pond to the horse
 
Ami nidentle kedna utt’ttole gai?
(When will we wake up?)
 
At first,  on seeing the situation at around 4.30pm,
we even thought the meeting  might have been cancelled 
as the CM is out of Goa etc
 
The police force  outnumbered  those who actually present.
Police were on all side of the Azad Maidan.
Infact, two of the 4 gates were seen closed, guarded by police
There were 5 police buses, one of Lady Police only.
 
Where is everybody?
If you take away  50 odd media/press persons, 
the remainder would be less than 150 that’s around 5.30pm
 
Imagine, what would be the resultant figure if we  also 
take away Moira, Tivim, Nuvem, Ambelim etc delegation /group
 
Amongst others, we also saw Fr. Erimito Rebelo,  
Prajal Sakhardande, Florian Lobo etc
 
In this clip you will also see 2-3 speakers in the later half
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn19byDKfM

For pics sent earlier, you may  refer this link
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-October/200257.html




joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa & NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc