Re: [Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors Message-

2012-07-11 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Mervyn  Elsie Maciel wrote:
  I could also visualise my former boss(Sir Richard Turnbull) delivering
  that speech and praising Goans in his customary manner,fortified 
  (as I'm sure he must have been) with a ood tot of his famous Scotch?!

  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that Goans in
 Tanganyika(Tanzania) got on far better than those of us in Kenya?



Mervyn(Maciel),
1) There are lots of people here who witnessed Turnbull's speach at the G.I.  I 
will leave it to those who did, to comment on what they remember. While I 
probably heard his speech, I was all of one year old and cannot remember a 
thing.

2) I am not to sure what the divisions in Kenya were. By the time I started 
making sports trips to Kenya, 20 years after independence, I did not notice any 
among the Goan sportsmen/women of my age group.

3) The Goans in Tz had only one division, as far as I know. After independence 
the Institutes allowed all professions to become members. 

4) In my personal observations, the coastal Goans i.e. Mombasa, Tanga, Dar and 
Zanzibar always seemed much warmer than those who lived in the interior, who 
were usually richer and less fun.  

Mervyn(Lobo)


Re: [Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors

2012-07-10 Thread joe lobo

Mervyn,
 I  must  thank  you  for  revealing  history to  me that  many us  goans 
from Dar  were oblivious  of !!
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From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca

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Subject: [Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors


Folks,

Last weekend, I scanned and put online the souvenir for the Dar es Salaam 
Institute's Platinum Anniversary, printed in 1994. In the souvenir, I found 
a great article from The Goan Voice, no less, circa 1959, which is a 
mini-history of Goans in Dar es Salaam.


This was the first time I read this article as I was a year old when it was 
written and not in Tanzania when it was republished. I found it fascinating. 
For example, the land for the Goan clubhouse was bought from the Custodian 
of Enemy Property. Had the Goans bought the land a few years earlier, they 
would have bought it from the then colonial masters, the Germans. Another 
interesting fact is that every time the Goans needed someone to be present 
at an important event, they called in the Governor General.


Here are the links for pages 11, 12 and 13 for your enjoyment:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529789038/sizes/l/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529794054/sizes/l/in/set-72157630484041774/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529796188/sizes/l/in/set-72157630484041774/


Mervyn Lobo



[Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors Message-

2012-07-10 Thread Mervyn Elsie Maciel
Thanks Mervyn.
Enjoyed reading the articles and couldn't help but admire the high ideals
of our
early Goan pioneers to East Africa. Their aims, as mentioned in the
President's speech,
  *to foster unity among Goans, to promote social and intellectual
activities and*
*to provide the best possible means of spending their leisure hours -*
 speak
volumes. Wise words indeed from our Sages of yore.
  I could also visualise my former boss(Sir Richard Turnbull) delivering
that speech and praising Goans
in his customary manner,fortified(as I'm sure he must have been) with a
good tot of his famous Scotch?!
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that Goans in
Tanganyika(Tanzania) got on far better than
those of us in Kenya?



Mervyn(Maciel)


[Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors

2012-07-09 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Folks,

Last weekend, I scanned and put online the souvenir for the Dar es 
Salaam Institute's Platinum Anniversary, printed in 1994. In the souvenir, I 
found a great article from The Goan Voice, no less, circa 1959, which is a 
mini-history of Goans in Dar es Salaam. 
 
This was the first time I read this article as I was a year old when it was 
written and not in Tanzania when it was republished. I found it fascinating. 
For example, the land for the Goan clubhouse was bought from the Custodian of 
Enemy Property. Had the Goans bought the land a few years earlier, they would 
have bought it from the then colonial masters, the Germans. Another interesting 
fact is that every time the Goans needed someone to be present at an important 
event,  they called in the Governor General.
 
Here are the links for pages 11, 12 and 13 for your enjoyment:
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529789038/sizes/l/in/photostream/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529794054/sizes/l/in/set-72157630484041774/
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529796188/sizes/l/in/set-72157630484041774/
 
 
Mervyn Lobo