Re: [Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors Message-
Mervyn Elsie Maciel wrote: I could also visualise my former boss(Sir Richard Turnbull) delivering that speech and praising Goans in his customary manner,fortified (as I'm sure he must have been) with a ood tot of his famous Scotch?! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that Goans in Tanganyika(Tanzania) got on far better than those of us in Kenya? Mervyn(Maciel), 1) There are lots of people here who witnessed Turnbull's speach at the G.I. I will leave it to those who did, to comment on what they remember. While I probably heard his speech, I was all of one year old and cannot remember a thing. 2) I am not to sure what the divisions in Kenya were. By the time I started making sports trips to Kenya, 20 years after independence, I did not notice any among the Goan sportsmen/women of my age group. 3) The Goans in Tz had only one division, as far as I know. After independence the Institutes allowed all professions to become members. 4) In my personal observations, the coastal Goans i.e. Mombasa, Tanga, Dar and Zanzibar always seemed much warmer than those who lived in the interior, who were usually richer and less fun. Mervyn(Lobo)
Re: [Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors
Mervyn, I must thank you for revealing history to me that many us goans from Dar were oblivious of !! - Original Message - From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca To: estb.1994! Goa'spremieremailinglist goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:08 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors Folks, Last weekend, I scanned and put online the souvenir for the Dar es Salaam Institute's Platinum Anniversary, printed in 1994. In the souvenir, I found a great article from The Goan Voice, no less, circa 1959, which is a mini-history of Goans in Dar es Salaam. This was the first time I read this article as I was a year old when it was written and not in Tanzania when it was republished. I found it fascinating. For example, the land for the Goan clubhouse was bought from the Custodian of Enemy Property. Had the Goans bought the land a few years earlier, they would have bought it from the then colonial masters, the Germans. Another interesting fact is that every time the Goans needed someone to be present at an important event, they called in the Governor General. Here are the links for pages 11, 12 and 13 for your enjoyment: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529789038/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529794054/sizes/l/in/set-72157630484041774/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529796188/sizes/l/in/set-72157630484041774/ Mervyn Lobo
[Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors Message-
Thanks Mervyn. Enjoyed reading the articles and couldn't help but admire the high ideals of our early Goan pioneers to East Africa. Their aims, as mentioned in the President's speech, *to foster unity among Goans, to promote social and intellectual activities and* *to provide the best possible means of spending their leisure hours -* speak volumes. Wise words indeed from our Sages of yore. I could also visualise my former boss(Sir Richard Turnbull) delivering that speech and praising Goans in his customary manner,fortified(as I'm sure he must have been) with a good tot of his famous Scotch?! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that Goans in Tanganyika(Tanzania) got on far better than those of us in Kenya? Mervyn(Maciel)
[Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors
Folks, Last weekend, I scanned and put online the souvenir for the Dar es Salaam Institute's Platinum Anniversary, printed in 1994. In the souvenir, I found a great article from The Goan Voice, no less, circa 1959, which is a mini-history of Goans in Dar es Salaam. This was the first time I read this article as I was a year old when it was written and not in Tanzania when it was republished. I found it fascinating. For example, the land for the Goan clubhouse was bought from the Custodian of Enemy Property. Had the Goans bought the land a few years earlier, they would have bought it from the then colonial masters, the Germans. Another interesting fact is that every time the Goans needed someone to be present at an important event, they called in the Governor General. Here are the links for pages 11, 12 and 13 for your enjoyment: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529789038/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529794054/sizes/l/in/set-72157630484041774/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529796188/sizes/l/in/set-72157630484041774/ Mervyn Lobo