[Goanet] HOW LONG DO SOULS LANGUISH IN PURGATORY
Who will be one with God ? To know about ‘who God is and about Hell and Heaven, below Are appended two links to watch on youtube. As for the Judgement, even Jesus Christ did not condemn the woman caught for adultery. In Verse John 8 : 10 – 11. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn. And Verse 1 John 1 : 7 says But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. Some time back, On Goanet there was a posting of the Article in 4 parts, GOD - Do you know ? part 1 of 4 (English). These articles were based on the discourse below named ‘Zana Za Devak Tujea’ Iemkond ani Sorg ( Hell and Heaven ) by Rev. Fr Jerry Sequeira https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6w9Fjk-Q-g Zana Za Devak Tujea ( Know your God) Youtube Discourse in Konkani https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEns00Varys The above will tell us how long we languish in Purgatory Remember The Parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man ( Luke 16 : 19- 31). God is merciful but that does not give us the liberty to sin. Dev borem korum
Re: [Goanet] HOW LONG DO SOULS LANGUISH IN PURGATORY
Marshall/Nelson, 1. You can drastically reduce your time in purgatory by following Pope Francis in Twitter. The Pope explains it well and I estimate I will spend 7 to 8 seconds there. 2. If the devil punishes people for their sins, how can the devil be a bad person? Why is hell thought of as a bad place when the evil are finally paying for their sins? 3. I like your idea of paying a priest to help *celebrate some occasion/event/ festival etc.)* 4. Amen. 5. If I have understood you correctly, you are saying that people who worship false gods - can be good people - and go to heaven? Mervyn On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 5:03 AM, Marshall Mendonza wrote: > After listening to me, this is what the parish priest said: > 1. no one knows how long a soul lies in purgatory. It depends on the life > that person lived on earth. > 2. heaven and hell are concepts meant to make people live good lives. > Basically reward and punishment. > 3. Priests do not earn any salary or income. They are at the service of the > community for their spiritual matters. Hence to provide them with a source > of income, masses were offered for which they received a small stipend. > Masses for the dead, masses out of gratitude for some wish fulfilled ( safe > pregnancy, passing exams, marriage, safe journey, good job, celebrate some > occasion/event/ festival etc.). > 4. Masses are offered for ALL souls at every mass, though mention is made > of the person for whom the mass is offered. > 5. It is wrong to assume that only Catholics will go to heaven. All those > who have led good lives, whether catholics or non-catholics go to heaven. > It is the life that we lead that will decide where we go. > 6. Purgatory is like a period of repentence. > > Trust I have been able to some extent been able to answer your query. > > Regards, > > Marshall > > >
[Goanet] HOW LONG DO SOULS LANGUISH IN PURGATORY
Nelson, when I was a just a teenager and in school, I too wondered about this. My father who was a very devout man would offer masses for his parents, grand parents and sundry other relatives who were dead and gone ages ago. I found this very unconvincing. One day I mustered courage and questioned him. I asked him: 1. how long will you go on offering masses for the dead? I added perhaps with some thoughtlessness and lack of tact that if the souls were still in purgatory even after 20-25 years, then they must have lived very unchristian lives. 2. what happens to those who have no families to offer masses for their souls? Do they linger in purgatory forever? 3. what happens to those who are non-catholics? Does it mean that only Catholics go to heaven and the rest are banished to hell even if they led exemplary lives? 4. Does it mean that if one were to lead a very unchristian life but plenty of masses were offered for this person's soul, then his soul would go to heaven faster? 5. Does offering masses fast track a person's release from purgatory? 6. What happens to the poor who do not have the means to offer masses? Do they linger in purgatory? My father was very understandably upset. He immediately met the parish priest the next day and invited him home to speak to me. When the parish priest came over, I repeated my questions to him and expressed my view that it appeared that religion was commercialised. Those who could afford and pay could lead whatever lives they wanted so long as they could pay for masses to be said after their death. The rest of us were damned in purgatory just as we were damned here on earth. After listening to me, this is what the parish priest said: 1. no one knows how long a soul lies in purgatory. It depends on the life that person lived on earth. 2. heaven and hell are concepts meant to make people live good lives. Basically reward and punishment. 3. Priests do not earn any salary or income. They are at the service of the community for their spiritual matters. Hence to provide them with a source of income, masses were offered for which they received a small stipend. Masses for the dead, masses out of gratitude for some wish fulfilled ( safe pregnancy, passing exams, marriage, safe journey, good job, celebrate some occasion/event/ festival etc.). 4. Masses are offered for ALL souls at every mass, though mention is made of the person for whom the mass is offered. 5. It is wrong to assume that only Catholics will go to heaven. All those who have led good lives, whether catholics or non-catholics go to heaven. It is the life that we lead that will decide where we go. 6. Purgatory is like a period of repentence. Trust I have been able to some extent been able to answer your query. Regards, Marshall *I wish some can explain the length of time after the death the masses areto be offered in general .Is it guilt and fear of retribution that makesrelatives resort to this practice out of guilt complex ? Many are of thefirm belief that unless we pay the stipend it is not valid sacrifice .Thereare instances, when these paid mass offerings are not said for many yearsfor one reason or other Can we not have faith in the merciful Lord to bejust and fair. In applying all the prayers to cleanse the souls inpurgatory How the doubts of duration in purgatory and the quantum ofprayers will be just enough not to be guilty of not doing enoughNelson Lopes Chinchinim*
[Goanet] HOW LONG DO SOULS LANGUISH IN PURGATORY
How long do the souls continue to languish in purgatory? For many more years do we have to offer masses or the souls of our dear ones and others in purgatory ? Do we believe that they will languish indefinitely in this state? We believe that many souls go to purgatory, but much more enjoy the presence of God. Few faithful offer perpetual masses at different congregations, especially, those that are skeptic about being forgotten by their progeny and those that have no immediate family to remember them. The Church by traditions accepts masses for the souls of the dead on the day of burial, seven days, month , year, second and third year, After that period there is no preference offered by the church in accepting such prayers, and the second intentions no remuneration is accepted By the way at all daily masses and after very decade of Rosary, the dead are regularly remembered, Besides on all souls day in particular the souls in purgatory are being remembered and prayed for Is it correct position that when we offer masses in specific names ? n some Churches names of dead souls are not announced at all before the beginning of Eucharistic celebrations. Is not b advisable that the sacrifice of the mass is offered to the souls in purgatory in general? If every time when we participate in the Holy Eucharist can we not offer for such intention? The rosary and other structured and spontaneous prayers, sacrifices et can be not be offered for such intentions? Can we not offer regular charity to the needy and deserving with the same intentions? Do the souls in purgatory appear and request for hundred of masses for their deliverance? The mass stipend as we understand is only for the maintenance of the priest and no value can be attached to it I wish some can explain the length of time after the death the masses are to be offered in general .Is it guilt and fear of retribution that makes relatives resort to this practice out of guilt complex ? Many are of the firm belief that unless we pay the stipend it is not valid sacrifice .There are instances, when these paid mass offerings are not said for many years for one reason or other Can we not have faith in the merciful Lord to be just and fair. In applying all the prayers to cleanse the souls in purgatory How the doubts of duration in purgatory and the quantum of prayers will be just enough not to be guilty of not doing enough Nelson Lopes Chinchinim
