Re: [Goanet] Hitler as a fascist
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Aristo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >However, don't confuse it with the word ISLAMO-FASCIST, >which is NOT an Oxymoron. > Also, notice the duplicity and religious bigotry of Goveia in claiming that Osama Bin Ladin is an Islamo-fascist, even though according to his own logic Osama should not be a Muslim in good standing. Such is the credibility of the guy who has now stooped to using obscenities on Goanet. Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Hitler as a fascist
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. So Class, Todays lesson is on Uncle Gilbert's favorite word: OXYMORON. Definition: A phrase conjoining two contradictory terms. Example of Oxymorons: Deafening Silence Catholic Fascist However, don't confuse it with the word ISLAMO-FASCIST, which is NOT an Oxymoron. Cheers, Aristo. On 9/6/06, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which is why using the oxymoron Catholic Fascist for > Hitler is a bald faced falsehood. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Hitler as a fascist
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. > --- Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > > > If Cornel was a professor of English at one of the > > American schools or colleges, his remarks would be > > cause for his dismissal from the staff, due to > > demagoguery of the religion. > > --- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not true. bush and his diminishing minority of > supporters routinely refer to terrorists and their > supporters as Islamofascists. They have not been > dismissed from their offices. > Mario observes: > I don't know if Gilbert is right because there are some pretty bizarre comments being made at American universities under freedom of speech, but once again, we see Santosh trying to sneak a falsehood into a convoluted sentence where it has no relevence. > To begin with, no one, including Bush, has referred to the supporters of the Islamo-fascists as Islamo-fascists. > Furthermore, no one is in any danger of losing their offices for calling a spade a spade. Those referred to as Islamo-fascists are heretics and fascists who target and kill innocent civilians, especially Muslims, in the name of Islam in order to deny them freedom and democracy. > When the Crusaders and Inquisition Christians did it they were called Christian-fascists. When the current Islamo-fascist terrorists do it they are called Islamo-fascists. > The term Islamo-fascist has nothing to do with the 99.9% of Muslims who are not heretical Islamo-fascists. > Hitler did not kill Jews, Christians and Gypsies in the name of Christianity, but due to a warped sense of racial superiority and blind and mindless hatred. Which is why using the oxymoron Catholic Fascist for Hitler is a bald faced falsehood. > ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Hitler as a fascist
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If Cornel was a professor of English at one of the > American schools or colleges, his remarks would be > cause for his dismissal from the staff, due to > demagoguery of the religion. > Not true. bush and his diminishing minority of supporters routinely refer to terrorists and their supporters as Islamofascists. They have not been dismissed from their offices. Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Hitler as a fascist
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. After I sent my response to Cornel, I departed on our long Labor Day weekend. Hence I did not read any goanet mail over the holiday. Yet the six hour drive gave me time to think about the offensive wording of "Hitler was a Catholic Fascist" in company with other "Catholic Fascists" of Europe. For this to come from Cornel, may suggest that he has unfamiliarity with English, at least American-English. Or his British environment makes him desensitized to this phraseology. Recently, Andrew Young the former US ambassador to the UN, referred to Jewish shopkeepers, Arab shopkeepers and Korean shopkeepers overpricing their products, in the USA. He had to apologize to them and (was forced to) resign from his seat on the Walmart Board losing a likely salary in excess of $100,000:00. I hope no Goan makes this misjudgment. If Cornel was a professor of English at one of the American schools or colleges, his remarks would be cause for his dismissal from the staff, due to demagoguery of the religion. To those who may not appreciate the faux pas of Cornel's phraseology, it is the equivalent of terming the prisoners in Goa's jails as "Catholic murderer" or "Hindu robber", " Muslim rapist" etc. Either our ignorance or our tolerance / desensitized to nuances, permit a lot of demagoguery on Goanet. And I wish the moderators did something about it, to raise the standard of discourse. >From the responses I have received, many Catholic Goans are upset at those who >talk about the outdated caste system in the present. The last discussion we >had on the subject, the overwhelming consensus was that, caste was a thing of >the past. Now, one does not even know their colleagues' or associates' caste. >Goans who have written to me have suggested that those who in the unlikely >circumstances, still carry scars of their caste, had a narrow upbringing. >Hence we, as the large community of Goans today, should no longer tolerate >this diversionary, abusive and circumstantial attack on Goan Catholics and the >Church. I however do compliment Cornel for feeling offended by my terming his writings as anti-Catholic. In fact, I am proud of him for wanting to be proud of his Catholic credentials. I hope he and he rest of us in moving forward pay closer attention of our writings. Fred rightly points out, this thread migrated off its origin. Yet, one of the main persons who started the dialogue used the outrageous terminology. This tells us that the thread was not started with the high intentions that Fred suggest. Kind Regards, GL --- Frederick Noronha wrote: In sum, the attempt to reduce this to a "Was Hitler a Catholic" debate is a way of subverting the issue. FN Cornel wrote on Hitler: I am in absolute agreement with Aristo that Hitler was a Catholic Fascist and in good company with other WW2 Catholic Fascists like Franco (helped greatly by Hitler in the Spanish Civil War), and Mussolini. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
