[Goanet] India's outsourcing bubble is bursting

2008-10-05 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 00:30:16 -0400
From: MD\Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Barack Obama intends to implement a 21st century economic agenda to help
ensure that America can compete in a global economy, and ensure the middle
class is thriving and growing. He will increase investments in
infrastructure (which is falling behind, it's nuclear reactors are becoming
old).  Nuclear plants, wind produce environmentally clean energy, reduce
dependence on foreign oil, improve education, research and development;
modernize and simplify tax code that provides greater opportunity and relief to 
more Americans; He intends to mplement trade policies that benefit American 
workers and increase the export of American goods.

Mario asks:

MD,

Since Obama has never done any of these things before, how do you decide 
whether to believe him or not?

Do you work for the Obama campaign?  Do you have any idea what his background 
and experience is?

MD writes:

Before the war in Iraq ever started, Senator Obama said that it was wrong in 
its conception. In 2002, then Illinois State Senator Obama said Saddam
Hussein posed no imminent threat to the United States and that invasion
would lead to an occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost,
with undetermined consequences. Since then, Senator Obama has laid out a
plan on the way forward in Iraq that has largely been affirmed by the
bipartisan Iraq Study Group led by James Baker and Lee Hamilton.

Mario asks:

MD, what do you have against the innocent Iraqi people?  What have they ever 
done to you?  Did you prefer what Iraq was like under Saddam Hussein?
Did you ever hear of all those mas graves?  Do you know why the UN imposed 
no-fly zones in Iraq?  Did you ever hear of the 17 UN resolutions that Saddam 
never complied with and the sanctions that the UN imposed on Iraq?  I wonder 
why they did that.

Do you have any idea what Saddam did between 1990 and 2003?

MD writes:

Just imagine the amount America has so far spent on Iraq, despite all that
the absolute winner is Iran, as Shia majority that is ruling Iraq, has more
loyalty to fellow Shia Iran, the invasion induced Al-Qaida to establish in
Iraq, the Sunnis are given incentives to contain violence, and even
Hezbollah has become part of the Lebanese government.  The money saved from
Iraq will help American domestic economy.

Mario asks:

So, it is the money you are concerned about, and not the tyranny that the Iraqi 
people were subjected to, not to mention the menace to the entire region?  I 
guess this means we need to count our money before we go rescue someone being 
subjected to tyranny.  No wonder we see so many people being brutalized in 
Africa - no one is willing to spend the money to help them, except that America 
has pledged to spend 63 BILLION dollars to help them fight HIV/AIDS, TB, and 
malaria.

Just imagine what Iraq would have been like if, after Saddam's heavy and brutal 
heel had been removed from their necks, the Iraqis would have decided to reject 
Al Qaeda and worked together, with American sid, to reconstruct their country 
and live in peace and harmony, just like the citizens of Italy, Germany and 
Japan did after WW-II?

MD writes:

India's domestic economy is flourishing so much, it does not even has to
look out for export.  In fact when they controlled export of rice, the price 
went up in no timein Canada! and consumers began hoarding rice!  In fact I 
heard quite a few Americans are working in Bangalore!  Finally it is not so 
easy to abruptly stop the already outsourced jobs, as the cost of relocating 
them back to USA may be prohibitive.

Mario responds:

India's outsourcing bubble is bursting
By Saritha Rai, silicon.com

Excerpt:

Bangalore, India--Once a high-flying tech hub, Bangalore is seeing more 
sober days in the wake of the credit crisis.

It looks like the global economic turmoil and the dramatic Wall Street 
meltdown is beginning to hit Bangalore.

MD writes:

Without prejudice and information obtained from the world Wide Web.

Mario responds:

Oh, really?  Nice try, MD.  I know I was born at night, but it was not last 
night:-))






[Goanet] India's outsourcing bubble is bursting

2008-10-04 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 23:28:38 -0400
From: Goanet News Service [EMAIL PROTECTED]

India's outsourcing bubble is bursting
By Saritha Rai, silicon.com

Bangalore, India--Once a high-flying tech hub, Bangalore is seeing more 
sober days in the wake of the credit crisis.

It looks like the global economic turmoil and the dramatic Wall Street 
meltdown is beginning to hit Bangalore.

Mario responds:

This is the inevitable result of the end of a business cycle in the US, the 
economic engine of the world economy, the economic turmoil in Europe, and 
inflation in India.

Before 1992, before outsourcing and globalization caught on, a US business 
cycle was three to four years.  The last two have been seven to eight years.  
These cycles never last for more than six months, and there is no reason to 
believe that this one will be any different, since the excesses of the banking 
industry are already shaking out and the US always addresses its problems 
rather quickly.

What will be bad news for India will be if Barack Obama is elected this 
November for several reasons, a) his policy of raising taxes, he says he will 
cut tax rates for 95% of income earners, but some 40% of income earners pay no 
income taxes to begin with, b) his policy of using expensive and inefficient 
government programs as opposed to the private marketplace to solve social and 
economic problems, c) his policy of trade protectionism to maintain his 
political support from the American labor unions, which will directly impact 
outsourcing, and d) the relative lack of checks and balances on his policies 
because the Congress is likely to be controlled by his own party.






[Goanet] India's outsourcing bubble is bursting

2008-10-04 Thread MDMello
There are 37 million poor Americans. Most poor Americans are in the
workforce, yet still cannot afford to make ends meet (one can imagine it by
the numbers of house foreclosures each month). And too many poor Americans
are single mothers who are raising children, probably depend on welfare and
no 'medical coverage'.

There is no more fundamental American right than the right to vote. Before
the landmark 1965 Voting Rights Act, barriers such as literacy tests, poll
taxes and property requirements disenfranchised many Americans, especially
minorities. More than 40 years later, there are still numerous obstacles to
ensuring that every citizen has the ability to vote.

Barack Obama intends to implement a 21st century economic agenda to help
ensure that America can compete in a global economy, and ensure the middle
class is thriving and growing. He will increase investments in
infrastructure (which is falling behind, it's nuclear reactors are becoming
old).  Nuclear plants, wind produce environmentally clean energy, reduce
dependence on foreign oil, improve education, research and development;
modernize and simplify tax code that provides greater opportunity and relief
to more Americans; He intends to mplement trade policies that benefit
American workers and increase the export of American goods.

Before the war in Iraq ever started, Senator Obama said that it was wrong in
its conception. In 2002, then Illinois State Senator Obama said Saddam
Hussein posed no imminent threat to the United States and that invasion
would lead to an occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost,
with undetermined consequences. Since then, Senator Obama has laid out a
plan on the way forward in Iraq that has largely been affirmed by the
bipartisan Iraq Study Group led by James Baker and Lee Hamilton.

Just imagine the amount America has so far spent on Iraq, despite all that
the absolute winner is Iran, as Shia majority that is ruling Iraq, has more
loyalty to fellow Shia Iran, the invasion induced Al-Qaida to establish in
Iraq, the Sunnis are given incentives to contain violence, and even
Hezbollah has become part of the Lebanese government.  The money saved from
Iraq will help American domestic economy.

India's domestic economy is flourishing so much, it does not even has to
look out for export.  In fact when they controlled export of rice, the price
went up in no timein Canada! and consumers began hoarding rice!  In fact I
heard quite a few Americans are working in Bangalore!  Finally it is not so
easy to abruptly stop the already outsourced jobs, as the cost of relocating
them back to USA may be prohibitive.

Without prejudice and information obtained from the world Wide Web.

Maurice D.


[Goanet] India's outsourcing bubble is bursting

2008-10-03 Thread Goanet News Service

India's outsourcing bubble is bursting
By Saritha Rai, silicon.com

Bangalore, India--Once a high-flying tech hub, Bangalore is seeing more 
sober days in the wake of the credit crisis.


It looks like the global economic turmoil and the dramatic Wall Street 
meltdown is beginning to hit Bangalore.


Until recently, in India's outsourcing hub it used to be one big Googlefest, 
with all the pampering and cosseting that employees enjoy at the company's 
Googleplex headquarters in Silicon Valley. I don't know what the latest from 
Googleplex is. But in Bangalore, it sure looks like the party is slowing 
down.


The first sign is in real estate. In a city where residential communities 
like Silver Manor, Golden Enclave and Platinum City sprouted to house 
thousands of young, upwardly mobile technology workers, instead of 200 
million-rupee homes, developers are now beginning to market 2 million-rupee 
condominiums.


Departmental stores sport 'sale' signs every other week as credit-card-happy 
tech workers are cooling off consumption. In India's top management schools, 
including the Bangalore branch of the Indian Institute of Management, 
technology outsourcing firms, multinationals and Wall Street banks used to 
slug it out for Day Zero spots during Placement Week. For students in the 
graduating class, that exercise is months away. But the schools are already 
planning to offset an expected slowdown in placements by inviting more 
companies.



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