[Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: fara, faram, farunc, faric corunc....
Learn one (or more) Konkani word today: FARA time, "guelolom tea fara Joao bettlo maca, at the time I went John met me." FARAM humorous dialogue FARUNC (TANDUU) to clean the rice FARIC CORUNC to pay, to satisfy, to settle FARICPONN n payment, satisfaction FARICPONN CORUNC, to atone FARIZEN pharisee FAR-MAR skirmish, conflict, causing to exchange blows FARMAS medical dispensary FARO m a stitch, a sewing with a needle FARO DODDTO m. double stitch FARONC to be entangled, to be caught FARS comic play, humorous scene [Source: Konkani-English Pocket Dictionary/Concanim-Inglez Dicionar. First published in 1930. Republished in 1991 and 1999 by the Asian Educational Services, Rs 195 in India.] Text is from a 1930 dictionary, and written style may have changed since. Please help to build this exercise with your feedback, suggestions, and examples of modern-day usage. Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: fara, faram, farunc, faric corunc....
I already wrote to u about using 'K' in place of 'C' FARIK and not FARIC FARIZEN nhoim punn FARIZEV On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Frederick Noronha wrote: Learn one (or more) Konkani word today: FARA time, "guelolom tea fara Joao bettlo maca, at the time I went John met me." FARIC CORUNC to pay, to satisfy, to settle FARIZEN pharisee
Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: fara, faram, farunc, faric corunc....
On 14 May 2011 06:37, Anselmo Johny De Souza wrote: I already wrote to u about using 'K' in place of 'C' > > FARIK and not FARIC > > Farik is the recent, English-influenced spelling, while faric would be the Luso-influenced version, I guess. > FARIZEN nhoim punn FARIZEV > Sorry, but I checked and *farizen* is how the dictionary renders it. I'm not making a accuracy or otherwise about the dictionary, but just saying that this is how Dacho Furtad rendered it in 1930. (The reprints of his dictionary do not acknowledge his work. But Dacho Furtad is credited with the Dicionar Concanim-Inglez of 1930, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goan_Catholic_literature ) FN
Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: fara, faram, farunc, faric corunc......
I had read that Wikipedia is an unreliable site for authentic information but never gave much importance to that complaint. However, upon clicking on the link provided by FN, I realised the enormity of this disservice. It is a perfect example of polluting the internet data-base which I always deprecate as a crime on future seekers of information. The information provided by the link is thoroughly spurious. Fact and fiction are so intimately interwoven that it would be wiser not to trust it at all. To give just two examples: (1) in the box (Sotmantam) which purports to be a Konkani rendition of the prayer only the first six lines belong to this prayer; I could not figure out the source of the rest. The caption too is entirely unrelated to the contents of the box. (2) Several Bombay publications have been listed as being published from Goa. The page appears to have been contribured by a very ignorant person. I believe it would be a great service if this page is expunged altogether. Sebastian Borges On Sat, 14 May 2011 16:47:34 +0530, Frederick Noronha wrote: > FARIZEN nhoim punn FARIZEV > Sorry, but I checked and *farizen* is how the dictionary renders it. I'm not making a accuracy or otherwise about the dictionary, but just saying that this is how Dacho Furtad rendered it in 1930. (The reprints of his dictionary do not acknowledge his work. But Dacho Furtad is credited with the Dicionar Concanim-Inglez of 1930, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goan_Catholic_literature ) FN Sebastian Borges
Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: fara, faram, farunc, faric corunc......
Sorry, Prof Borges. This is not how it works on the Wikipedia. You have the opportunity to correct all that is inaccurate or incomplete. But you cannot "expunge" anything. To all those who criticise, the option is simple: do something better. Information hierarchies are different in cyberspace. They are not top-heavy or controlled from the top of the pyramid. Here is the page again, for anyone who might want to improve it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goan_Catholic_literature FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org On 15 May 2011 10:26, Sebastian Borges wrote: > I had read that Wikipedia is an unreliable > site for authentic information but never > gave much importance to that complaint. > However, upon clicking on the link > provided by FN, I realised the enormity > of this disservice. It is a perfect example > of polluting the internet data-base which > I always deprecate as a crime on future > seekers of information. The information > provided by the link is thoroughly spurious. > Fact and fiction are so intimately interwoven > that it would be wiser not to trust it at all. > To give just two examples: (1) in the > box (Sotmantam) which purports to be a > Konkani rendition of the prayer > only the first six lines belong to this prayer; > I could not figure out the source of the rest. > The caption too is entirely unrelated to > the contents of the box. (2) Several > Bombay publications have been listed as > being published from Goa. The page appears > to have been contribured by a very > ignorant person. I believe it would be a > great service if this page is expunged > altogether. > Sebastian Borges
Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: fara, faram, farunc, faric corunc......
Also, please take a look here http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wp/gom/Konkani FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org
Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: fara, faram, farunc, faric corunc......
Dear FN, This means that an idler is free to upload any rubbish on Wikipedia. An unsuspecting poster can then cite this rubbish in support of his contention as you have done wrt Dacho Furtad. Please note that Wikipedia has no citation to back this insertion. Let us behave responsibly; and I think this is what is expected of every contributor and redactor of the articles posted on it. Let us upload only such info which we can back with documents. Untrue info, however innocuous it may appear, is of no use; but it is capable of doing a lot of avoidable harm. Sebastian Borges On Sun, 15 May 2011 15:03:26 +0530, Frederick Noronha wrote: Sorry, Prof Borges. This is not how it works on the Wikipedia. You have the opportunity to correct all that is inaccurate or incomplete. But you cannot "expunge" anything. To all those who criticise, the option is simple: do something better. Information hierarchies are different in cyberspace. They are not top-heavy or controlled from the top of the pyramid. Here is the page again, for anyone who might want to improve it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goan_Catholic_literature FN Sebastian Borges