Re: [Goanet] Misconceptins about God and evil - response to dr Helekar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. A typo in my prior email below. Referring to Bush, I meant to say "He endorsed the Republican Party Texas platform in 2004 which refers to America as a Christian nation." I incorrectly wrote "God" instead of "America". George --- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "In the 2000 primary, he said Christ was his most important philosopher. He endorsed the Republican Party Texas platform in 2004 which refers to God as a Christian nation." ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Misconceptins about God and evil - response to dr Helekar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Bosco D'Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > George, > > I'm afraid you are off-base here. The thread is about "man committing > atrocities against fellow human beings in the name of God". At no time did > Dubya > say he was going into Iraq in the name of his God. I disagree. One does not have to call out the name of God while committing a crime against fellow beings to be indicted in this manner. Actions speak, not necessarily words. Bush has been quoted as saying he makes decisions on bended knee. In the 2000 primary, he said Christ was his most important philosopher. He endorsed the Republican Party Texas platform in 2004 which refers to God as a Christian nation. His view on stem cell research is driven by his faith (I doubt he understands the science). For your statement to be true, would mean Bush excludes God from areas of his life inspite of being God-fearing. I doubt in his thinking he can make that leap, especially in matters of war. In 1998 he stood on the Temple Mount and wept, his ties with Israel go back to at least then. So it is possible for God-fearing men to commit crimes, because of the influence of their religion or inspite of it. For your statement to be true, he would have to live on two separate paths. Not possible. This is why Santosh and others are correct in saying God-fearing people commit evil, just as atheists and agnostics do. One cannot say the Mafia were Catholic when they went to church in the morning and received communion, and in the afternoon were not Catholic when they killed a rival. Regards, George ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Misconceptins about God and evil - response to dr Helekar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. George, I'm afraid you are off-base here. The thread is about "man committing atrocities against fellow human beings in the name of God". At no time did Dubya say he was going into Iraq in the name of his God. The US armed forces have followers of various faiths and so its likely any political leaders will draw reference to their own religions/Gods in times of war unless ofcourse you are the founder of OBL University. Its true that several thousand people have died in Iraq and unfortunately several more will - there is a distinct lack of respect for innocent civilians, even soccer players. On another note..lets keep away from drawing US politics, the Iraq & Israel/Hezb war on Goanet as much as possible, or else we will all get a mouthful from our resident expert.. :-( Thank you - Bosco On Fri Aug 4 15:54:09 PDT 2006, George Pinto wrote --- Vivek wrote: > dear dr helekar, > if history is any indication the most horrible > atrocities commited by man against fellow human beings > have been in he name of a loving God. > And most of the the times the perpetrators'faith in > God was so unshakeable that they genuinely believed > that what they were doing was in fact good. Both theists and atheists have been mass murderers. Yes, some God-fearing people who profess their faith openly, have started illegal and immoral wars. George Bush is a good example. In the Iraq war, 30,000 innocent Iraqis have died. And now he is standing by while Israelis bomb women and children. Regards, George ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Misconceptins about God and evil - response to dr Helekar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Vivek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dear dr helekar, > if history is any indication the most horrible > atrocities commited by man against fellow human beings > have been in he name of a loving God. > And most of the the times the perpetrators'faith in > God was so unshakeable that they genuinely believed > that what they were doing was in fact good. Both theists and atheists have been mass murderers. Yes, some God-fearing people who profess their faith openly, have started illegal and immoral wars. George Bush is a good example. In the Iraq war, 30,000 innocent Iraqis have died. And now he is standing by while Israelis bomb women and children. Regards, George ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Misconceptins about God and evil - response to dr Helekar
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. dear dr helekar, if history is any indication the most horrible atrocities commited by man against fellow human beings have been in he name of a loving God. And most of the the times the perpetrators'faith in God was so unshakeable that they genuinely believed that what they were doing was in fact good. -vivek __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org