[Goanet] Objectionable picture of Jesus Christ
bedesousa at gmx.ch bedesousa at gmx.ch; on Sun Jan 20 06:47:56 PST 2013 wrote: ...J. Colaco wrote: c: I am not certain that Bernardo was malicious. It might just be prejudicial and/or ignorant. If the Portuguese were not ignorant, then why did they introduce into Goa a portrait of Christ who, I emphasize, was born an Arab Jew, with a white skin, blue eyes and light brown hair? That the images come from Italy is well-known; under the Padroado agreement, the Portuguese blindly accepted whatever they were fed by the Vatican - which is another proof of their ignorance. And under the said agreement they misused the catholic religion to achieve political objectives. RESPONSE: I am inclined to agree with Dr. J.C. that statement by Bernardo de Souza might not be malicious or prejudicial, obviously from his response here. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc�o
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Re face of Jesus, spiritually we ought to see His face in every suffering person whatsoever you do to the least of my brethren, that you do unto me. However, the Greeks have their icons, other Europeans may have theirs. There are Indian madonnas, as there are African, Italian as well as Greek, each modelled according to the prevailing images around the artist who painted or carved it. I could presume that the real face of Jesus appears to be the one left behind in the Shroud of Turin, as indicated in a 3-d image generated by scientists (whether or not the Turin Shroud has been proven as true) http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/face-jesus-revealed-10248139. For a crucifix with a difference, see the crucifix hanging in the Brisbane's cathedral of St.Stephen ... http://www.cathedralofststephen.org.au/popups/crucifix.htm Regardless of the above, pictures and images are not for adoration, they are for remembering the person or concept they represent. From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Cc: goa...@goanet.org goa...@goanet.org Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Objectionable picture of Jesus Christ a: I found the picture (used by Aires) to be rude alright but not objectionable. Each one makes a statement through one's words and actions based on one's state of mind. That is how the psyche functions. I have no right to object. We are, after all, what we are. d: In my travels and stays in various countries, I have not found many Goans (esp those with Catholic surnames) who live in Portugal or Ireland and complain about European Superiority.
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[2] Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falc?o wrote: The (above) insinuation is malicious,contemptuous and baselessBernardo Souza seems to have an axe to grind. J. Colaco wrote: c: I am not certain that Bernardo was malicious. It might just be prejudicial and/or ignorant. If the Portuguese were not ignorant, then why did they introduce into Goa a portrait of Christ who, I emphasize, was born an Arab Jew, with a white skin, blue eyes and light brown hair? That the images come from Italy is well-known; under the Padroado agreement, the Portuguese blindly accepted whatever they were fed by the Vatican - which is another proof of their ignorance. And under the said agreement they misused the catholic religion to achieve political objectives.
[Goanet] Objectionable picture of Jesus Christ
I came across the enclosed article. Aries has every right to express his displeasure of the chief minister comparing his suffering to that of Jesus Christ. And he has every right to say that he found the silence of the Church disturbing. But, I think, he could have expressed his displeasure in a more refined way. Incidentally, Aries says that the picture that he has depicted is not that of Christ. Can he say whose picture it is? I have personally not seen the picture. Best regards, U. G. Barad Complaint filed against Goa activist over vulgar image of 'Christ' Author: IANS Publication: News Track India Date: January 14, 2013 URL: http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2013/01/14/268--Complaint-filed-ag ainst-Goa-activist-over-vulgar-image-of-Christ-.html A digitally altered image posted on Facebook allegedly of Jesus Christ has prompted the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in Goa to file a police complaint against a lawyer and activist who had uploaded it on the social networking site. The complaint lodged with Director General of Police Kishen Kumar has sought action against activist Aires Rodrigues for hurting religious sentiments by uploading an image of Christ showing the middle finger, Goa BJP's vice-president Wilfred Mesquita told reporters here Monday. This is a vulgar picture of Jesus Christ that he has uploaded in order to make a point against the BJP. Such use of religious imagery is aimed at creating hatred with a community, Mesquita said. Rodrigues has in the past taken on both the Congress as well as the BJP government over issues like governance and overspending. The photo was uploaded days after Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar reportedly said that in his role as chief minister, he was suffering like Christ himself. The stoic silence by the Church on this outrageous and demeaning comparison by the chief minister is deafening. A very sorry state of affairs, Rodrigues said in his controversial Facebook post. Rodrigues said that he was himself a born Catholic and the post was without any malice and should offend none. Nowhere in the post is it said that the picture accompanying the post was that of Jesus Christ, the lawyer activist said.
[Goanet] Objectionable picture of Jesus Christ
Jesus was born an Arab Jew and could not possibly have had a white skin, blue eyes and light brown hair (picture used by Aires). That portrait of Jesus that we find in the Churches in Goa was based on both ignorance of the Portuguese as well as an attempt by the European colonial powers to prove their superiority, what I would call a political Jesus. Forensic scientists have developed a likeness of Jesus; it was published some years ago in the National Geographic and those who are interested can see it here: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/forensics/1282186 Regards Bernardo E. de Sousa U. G. Barad http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=goanet@lists.goanet.orgq=from:%22U.+G.+Barad%22 Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:39:30 -0800 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=goanet@lists.goanet.orgq=date:20130118 I came across the enclosed article. Aries has every right to express his displeasure of the chief minister comparing his suffering to that of Jesus Christ. And he has every right to say that he found the silence of the Church disturbing. But, I think, he could have expressed his displeasure in a more refined way. Incidentally, Aries says that the picture that he has depicted is not that of Christ. Can he say whose picture it is? I have personally not seen the picture. Best regards, U. G. Barad Complaint filed against Goa activist over vulgar image of 'Christ' Author: IANS Publication: News Track India Date: January 14, 2013 URL: http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2013/01/14/268--Complaint-filed-ag ainst-Goa-activist-over-vulgar-image-of-Christ-.html A digitally altered image posted on Facebook allegedly of Jesus Christ has prompted the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in Goa to file a police complaint against a lawyer and activist who had uploaded it on the social networking site. The complaint lodged with Director General of Police Kishen Kumar has sought action against activist Aires Rodrigues for hurting religious sentiments by uploading an image of Christ showing the middle finger, Goa BJP's vice-president Wilfred Mesquita told reporters here Monday. This is a vulgar picture of Jesus Christ that he has uploaded in order to make a point against the BJP. Such use of religious imagery is aimed at creating hatred with a community, Mesquita said. Rodrigues has in the past taken on both the Congress as well as the BJP government over issues like governance and overspending. The photo was uploaded days after Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar reportedly said that in his role as chief minister, he was suffering like Christ himself. The stoic silence by the Church on this outrageous and demeaning comparison by the chief minister is deafening. A very sorry state of affairs, Rodrigues said in his controversial Facebook post. Rodrigues said that he was himself a born Catholic and the post was without any malice and should offend none. Nowhere in the post is it said that the picture accompanying the post was that of Jesus Christ, the lawyer activist said. U. G. Barad http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=goanet@lists.goanet.orgq=from:%22U.+G.+Barad%22 Fri, 18 Jan 2013 04:39:30 -0800 http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=goanet@lists.goanet.orgq=date:20130118 I came across the enclosed article. Aries has every right to express his displeasure of the chief minister comparing his suffering to that of Jesus Christ. And he has every right to say that he found the silence of the Church disturbing. But, I think, he could have expressed his displeasure in a more refined way. Incidentally, Aries says that the picture that he has depicted is not that of Christ. Can he say whose picture it is? I have personally not seen the picture. Best regards, U. G. Barad Complaint filed against Goa activist over vulgar image of 'Christ' Author: IANS Publication: News Track India Date: January 14, 2013 URL: http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2013/01/14/268--Complaint-filed-ag ainst-Goa-activist-over-vulgar-image-of-Christ-.html A digitally altered image posted on Facebook allegedly of Jesus Christ has prompted the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in Goa to file a police complaint against a lawyer and activist who had uploaded it on the social networking site. The complaint lodged with Director General of Police Kishen Kumar has sought action against activist Aires Rodrigues for hurting religious sentiments by uploading an image of Christ showing the middle finger, Goa BJP's vice-president Wilfred Mesquita told reporters here Monday. This is a vulgar picture of Jesus Christ that he has uploaded in order to make a point against the BJP. Such use of religious imagery is aimed at creating hatred with a community, Mesquita said. Rodrigues has in the past taken on both the Congress as well as the BJP government over issues like governance and overspending. The photo was uploaded days after Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar reportedly said that in his role as chief minister, he was
[Goanet] Objectionable picture of Jesus Christ
bedesousa at gmx.ch bedesousa at gmx.ch on Fri Jan 18 09:24:48 PST wrote: Jesus was born an Arab Jew and could not possibly have had a white skin, blue eyes and light brown hair (picture used by Aires). That portrait of Jesus that we find in the Churches in Goa was based on both ignorance of the Portuguese as well as an attempt by the European colonial powers to prove their superiority, what I would call a political Jesus. Forensic scientists have developed a likeness of Jesus; it was published some years ago in the National Geographic and those who are interested can see it here: http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/forensics/1282186 Regards Bernardo E. de Sousa RESPONSE: The insinuation That portrait of Jesus that we find in the Churches in Goa was based on both ignorance of the Portuguese as well as an attempt by the European colonial powers to prove their superiority, is malicious,contemptuous and baseless. Nowhere at the site provided is it stated that Portugal has created the portraits of Jesus. The images, Idols and portraits in Goa are mostly from Italy, and all over Europe similar portraits and images exist. Bernardo Souza seems to have an axe to grind. But his roundabout and directionless approach is futile. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
