Re: [Goanet] Parrikar smacks of pimp’s mentality
Dear Mr. Rupert Coutinho, Thank you for your response. There are some parts of your post which I could not comprehend. I will point them out to you with the hope that you will clarify them; I will comment on the other points. [1] re: "Your addressing of press reporters as “PATRACARS’’ has really amused me and I still wonder what could be the reasons for that. I’m sure we respect every profession and individual for what they are inspite of their action being under the scanner. jc 1: Patracar = Journalist (in Konkani) == [2] re: Perhaps you must have missed my earlier reply to his infiltrated PR agents out there to promote his image of “Good Governance and Good POLITICIAN’’ jc 2: Not very sure I understand what the above term "infiltrated PR agents" means. BTW: I personally believe that Manohar Parrikar is a Good Governance politician. Like the rest of us, he has made mistakes. The question which might be on the minds of a key 'constituency' is whether he likely to repeat them. This question and the division of votes will decide which politician gains control of government. But, do go ahead and tell us who/what these "infiltrated PR agents" are. == [3] re: Most countries .( I have studied the policies of many developed and developing nations). have efficient systems in place to check illegalities and plug loopholes in laws (they don’t dilly dial for ages to pass an effective law unlike the LOKPAL jc 3: Not very sure I understand what the above term "dilly dial" means but would you please advise which other Westminister style democratic country would pass a LOKPAL bill/law as demanded by Hazare? == [4] re: Goa is moving in the negative and population of Goans has not increased much as compared to the migrants flooding into Goa. India stand not for better structure nor better control except to anarchy. There is a Shit-load of babus and politicians pulling the strings and so the system is still not yet paralysed but is still moving at snail’s pace. [5] re: Won’t you voice your disagreement or are you willing outsiders to encroach and legalise their stay on your property? Just because something is happening unregulated, should all of us fold our hands and sit back and enjoy our siesta and say “tem kiem zavpachem nam’’. I don’t believe in these principles. There will be someone who can bring a change and there is an untapped talent which has a potential to turn the tide. I believe people’s voices are supreme. jc 4 & 5: I will repeat. The political leaders of Kashmir were smart. They managed to protect 'Kashmiri' interests before they agreed to join India. That is why neither Rupert nor jc will be able to just walk in and buy or squat on land in (say) Srinagar or Jammu. Goa's situation is different. Is it not? Goa was been blessed by dumb 'Freedom Fighters'. That is why I call them FreeDumb Fighters. There is no legitimate method for any Goa Govt to prevent the whole of (say) Bihar from traveling to Goa and .etc except to say Thank You to Nehru, Krishna Menon, George Fernandes and the 'Freedom Fighters'. If you know of any legitimate method, please advise. As far as the present law of the land is concerned (and with the help of some very ingenious lawyers and babus), the squatters will eventually get hold of the property they are squatting on. This plus the Bakshish culture is ensuring that even existing laws are not adequately enforced. What are you suggesting Goans do? They cannot even assist in the enforcement of simple health laws relating to hygiene. Do you believe that those filthy roadside 'gadde' and beachside 'shacks' would have survived IF Goans would have decided NOT to patronise them? ==. [6] re: I don’t deny that the process has not begun and may be or could be on target but people’s voices has decelerated some of them from gaining grounds. jc 6: I do not share that 'optimistic' opinion. The magnitude of the influx is just too great for any Vox Populi (in tones as disparate and transient as Manch, Dal, Sangh, Abhiyan, Pox and the rest of the nonsense) to do anything but apply a BandAid. If Goans do not wish to accept the reality ...they are free to do so. On the other hand, smart Goans have already begun studying and working hard, upgrading their knowledge and skills and competing on the global market. The rest are still into Picnics, Balls, Hops, Dances.(sometimes with Bollywood types), making speeches and seeking attention by way of creating one disorder after another .. in the name of 'activism'.. jc
Re: [Goanet] Parrikar smacks of pimp’s mentality
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 8:05 PM, J. Colaco < jc> wrote: > > Whether one agrees with his present politics or not, I write to show > my strong disapproval at the your characterization of Mr. Manohar > Parrikar's > > I'd add the following: > > 1: Unless you were present when Mr. Parrikar spoke, you might be > relying exclusively on the reporting of his statement. Needless to > say, Goa-based patracars are not necessarily accurate. > > 2: Regularization of shanty towns in most countries, is a legal > process. It is best done in a structured fashion. Good structure leads > to better control. > > 3: And while 'regularization' may encourage new settlements, > unregulated new settlements are happening anyway. > > 4: As far as I am concerned, courtesy of the naivety and/or negligence > of the real Freedom Fighters + the 'private interests' of the Bogus > ones in 1961, and the vote-bank and other banking interests of the > Politicians e Policia who have ruled Goa since 1963, there is NO > effective method of preventing the shantification of Goa. > > The process has begun .and is on target to continue uninhibited. > > Have you not been reading Mr. Rajan Parrikar's posts? > > jc > Dear Mr. Colaco, You are free to express your personal opinion and views but my observations are based on me personally watching and studying Parrikar and his moves from close angles. Perhaps you must have missed my earlier reply to his infiltrated PR agents out there to promote his image of “Good Governance and Good POLITICIAN’’ where I have brought out many facts listed in detail and no one could contest on them with a firm reply. I think they are still ignorant to understand the word MANIPULATION as opposed to Good Governance and Good Politician. In response to your feedback, I would state the following: 01) Agreed that press reporting in Goa need greater standards and integrity however as I have watched Parrikar from close angles, he is quick to call for numerous press conferences to blow things out of proportion himself and he is quick to dismiss any negative criticism by stating the standard replies of he is being misquoted. His latest statement on Chimbel residents has no further reaction from him nor has he taken back his statement. So I go by the reports if you will read ( ‘’Parrikar’s assurance to settle the issue…..’’) what I have written and I have not edited any from there. Your addressing of press reporters as “PATRACARS’’ has really amused me and I still wonder what could be the reasons for that. I’m sure we respect every profession and individual for what they are inspite of their action being under the scanner. 02) Most countries ( I have studied the policies of many developed and developing nations) are moving ahead in forward direction and have efficient systems in place to check illegalities and plug loopholes in laws (they don’t dilly dial for ages to pass an effective law unlike the LOKPAL and REGIONAL PLAN or bring back black money stashed away. Their politician are educated in reputed institution and don’t depend on messy inefficient bureaucrats to interpret acts and amendments). Goa is moving in the negative and population of Goans has not increased much as compared to the migrants flooding into Goa. India stand not for better structure nor better control except to anarchy. There is a Shit-load of babus and politicians pulling the strings and so the system is still not yet paralysed but is still moving at snail’s pace. Thanks to some genuine journalists working in various capacities, many politicians have bitten the dust. 03) If you do own property in Goa and are not settled there but elsewhere then are you willing to accept mushrooming of illegal structures and garbage dumpyards or sewage lines in your backyard? Won’t you voice your disagreement or are you willing outsiders to encroach and legalise their stay on your property? Just because something is happening unregulated, should all of us fold our hands and sit back and enjoy our siesta and say “tem kiem zavpachem nam’’. I don’t believe in these principles. There will be someone who can bring a change and there is an untapped talent which has a potential to turn the tide. I believe people’s voices are supreme. 04) Effective method of preventing the shantification of Goa is to stand up and make a noise. Not condemning the wrong actions means supporting the people who prop up these acts (like Parrikar, Luizinho, Churchill, Monseratee and Ravi) which has led us to elect the same useless lot over the years. No Hope LOST. Everyone did not sink with the Titanic. A very few survived on rafts and some on emergency boats and an infant survived the freezing cold. Some ripples and personal tragedies or disasters have a tendency to pull the brakes. I don’t deny that the process has not begun and may be or could be on target but people’s voices has decelerated some of them from gaining grounds. rc
Re: [Goanet] Parrikar smacks of pimp’s mentality
Rupert Coutinho wrote: Parrikar’s assurance to settle the issue of regularising the houses at Indira Nagar in Chimbel is cheap, disgraceful and is a mind of frustration of a desperate and disillusioned CM-in-waiting. Can Goans accept that their land be taken away and given free of cost to outsiders? These acts are more worst than even the prostitution and murders. The areas will only be another breeding ground for slums, thrash and crimes to flourish in the social environment. Dear Mr. Coutinho, Whether one agrees with his present politics or not, I write to show my strong disapproval at the your characterization of Mr. Manohar Parrikar's I'd add the following: 1: Unless you were present when Mr. Parrikar spoke, you might be relying exclusively on the reporting of his statement. Needless to say, Goa-based patracars are not necessarily accurate. 2: Regularization of shanty towns in most countries, is a legal process. It is best done in a structured fashion. Good structure leads to better control. 3: And while 'regularization' may encourage new settlements, unregulated new settlements are happening anyway. 4: As far as I am concerned, courtesy of the naivety and/or negligence of the real Freedom Fighters + the 'private interests' of the Bogus ones in 1961, and the vote-bank and other banking interests of the Politicians e Policia who have ruled Goa since 1963, there is NO effective method of preventing the shantification of Goa. The process has begun .and is on target to continue uninhibited. Have you not been reading Mr. Rajan Parrikar's posts? jc
[Goanet] Parrikar smacks of pimp’s mentality
*Parrikar smacks of pimp’s mentality* ** Parrikar’s assurance to settle the issue of regularising the houses at Indira Nagar in Chimbel is cheap, disgraceful and is a mind of frustration of a desperate and disillusioned CM-in-waiting. Can Goans accept that their land be taken away and given free of cost to outsiders? These acts are more worst than even the prostitution and murders. The areas will only be another breeding ground for slums, thrash and crimes to flourish in the social environment. Parrikar knows how to change the rules of the game and has been the master of it which is now taken as a precedent and a useful guidance by some of his successors vis a vis the Navelim farmers protesting against rehabilitation of migrants on their agricultural lands with another anti-Goan from Varca calling the shots. Parrikar’s image is waning and with the rise of Axis of Evil and some lunatics from Bedxellolem Bharatiyancho Saunstha, his cosmetic image of Good Politician and God Governance has been unmasked and exposed. An old octogenarian is a PM- in-Waiting at the Rape Capital of the world but everyone knows for sure that the day will never come and RSS will have to write a chapter in their Ideological History glorifying an ex-dy-PM who remained forever-in-waiting. Ethnic Goas too will be blessed immensely if they keep Parrikar forever as the CM-in-Waiting & as a chapter to remember for he could not change and prevent the takeover of Goan land by outsiders despite having ruled comfortably for over 4 years. Cheers!! Rupert Coutinho