Re: [Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima
Dear all: Using a pseudonym to target someone else can sometimes be problematic or troublesome. (I say *sometimes* because, at other times, there could well be a reason for it. There was a big debate elsewhere in cyberspace not long ago about the now-inactive penpricks.blogspot.com anonymous-except-towards-the-end blog on Goan journalism.) A couple of points I'd like to add: * This is not the only critique of Rajan Parrikar's Rape of Goa, and not all are anonymous. While Rajan responds here by attacking the anonymity, there are other crucial (in my view) issues raised by the other RP bete noir Jason Keith Fernandes here: http://dervishnotes.blogspot.com/2008/06/rape-of-goaas-tool-to-save-goa.html QUOTE ‘The Rape of Goa’ is filled not only with multiple images of violences being visited on Goa and Goans, it is also filled with captions that provoke the viewer. In this slick production, music lends itself to the captions presented to the viewer. These captions by and large point out that the ‘developments’ in Goa are by outsiders and for outsiders, in connivance with a bunch of politicians, builders and miners. Overcome with the visuals being presented, one of the viewers at the Hotel Mandovi, was forced to cry out “Ye soglen Ghanti!” (All these Ghatties!). This is exactly the kind of response that ‘The Rape of Goa’ is expected to draw. The documentary seeks to provoke you, and then push you into a series of actions based on that provocation. UNQUOTE and also QUOTE: Goa has seen numerous movements in the past, one of which was the Konkani language agitation that similarly created the enemy in the shape of Marathi. This image of the enemy was mobilized the masses, who were eventually let down. The goodies of state recognition were gathered by elite groups, and those reliant on the Roman script were left out, as their accent and script was deemed less that proper. In this context then, we must perhaps contemplate if what we had were not mass movements but mob movements? Mobs that were created, and carefully manipulated by those at the helm of power? The common person is not served by such mobilizations, only elite groups are, and in the present mobilization we should strive hard to stay away from such tendencies. UNQUOTE There are indeed issues worth discussing more closely here. At another level, I know that Rajan Parrikar also once accused me of writing a (badly penned, I would say) article under the name of Someone Waghmare. This article was a boorish defence of the right to in-migrate into Goa. (While I do believe that migrants into Goa should have their rights too, I do not agree that just about any silly arguments should be used to debate this. Using poor arguments and badly-crafted ones could actually be counterproductive and cause more trouble than anything else to an already largely disempowered section of the population.) Partly out of pique and as a strategy, I consciously kept silent for awhile, and let Rajan repeat his charges, which he did publicly though covering it with a laugh at Cafe Prakash too. On being challenged a bit later, he simply pointed to the charge as having emanated from a common friend, Soter! This is hardly a defence, as there is no reason to even repeat false accusations. But after repeating the charge a few more times, I'm sure these guys still sometimes believe I'm the 'Waghmare' behind the article! So much for pseudonyms! FN 2009/8/31 Benedict Lobo : > Looks like a job well done by Parrrikar. > If not,, Jamima (if that is your real name) is free > to call me on 050-6746091and who knows you > might actually convince us.Whoever you are, as a ... >> From: Jamima Dias >> Subject: [Goanet] Dubai-AUH Goans Beware >>Dear Goan brothers in Dubai=AUH. >>there is an attempt to further polarise the Goan community by >>injecting bitter bile and poison your minds about Goa through >>a campaign by raising panic among the Goans in Dubai and Auh. >>Please do not fall prey to any malicious presentations through >>photography being used to promote a hidden communial agenda >>and try and target a secular democratically elected Goan government. >>It is a shame that the Dubai church, or parish, overtly controlled >>by the malyalam fathers will allow the small group of Goans >>promoting the 'save Goa issue which is actually a front >>supported by Goa's main opposition party the BJP through >>photo campaigns and strong bitter words like loot and Rape. >>Please avoid this and boycott such meetings and people. >>A hard effort was made recently by the same fellows to >>encroach into Goan communities in Oman. The perpetuator >>of the documentary titled, rape of Goa was shunted out and >>shown the door as all in Oman are aware of his communial >>linkage with top anti minority parties in Goa. >> >>Please be careful my dear fellow Goans in the Gulf. >> >>Kind regards >>Jamima -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http
Re: [Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima
Benedict, If, Jamina, corporeal or ephemeral, has tried to pull a fast one on poor us, she should, unequivocally, be debagged & cast out of the premisses... But that begs the point: does the wench/blighter, in the issue, have to be, compulsorilly, slim? What objectivity does slimness/rotundity/beauty/ beastliness bear upon the malefactors, if, indeed, they are such bear upon the issue in hand? A baffled...Alfred... > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:39:28 +0530 > From: goa...@yahoo.co.in > To: goa...@goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima > > Looks like a job well done by Parrrikar. > If not,, Jamima (if that is your real name) is free to call me on > 050-6746091and who knows you might actually convince us.Whoever you are, as a > "concerned" Goan, you should have had the courtesy to approach us before > making such a defaming post on a public forum.Its a shame some of our very > own so called Goans will sit back, do nothing, but go to length to derail > something that others do.We are not even a formal organization and have no > political affliations to any party or person.We are just a bunch of concerned > goans doing our bit. > > Will the real slim Jamima, please stand up.please stand up,please stand > up.and contact us ,so we know who you are and what your concerns are. > > Dev Borem Korunk > Benedict > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:57:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" > To: goa...@goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima > Message-ID: <1412.28109...@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > To Goanet - > > The post quoted below was forwarded to me from Goanet. > > > It took me a few nanoseconds to figure out who the > skunk is hiding behind a phony ID. It is our dimwitted > pal Cedrico Dacosta, whose ass I have had the pleasure > of rubbishing several times here on this very group. > I am delighted to note that his wounds haven't yet healed. > > "Jamima Dias" first surfaced in Dec 2007 (this was before > I had kicked Cedrico's pustulated behind) and here he > has nothing but praise for me: > > "A huge word of praise for Rajan Parriker, Floriano, Minguel, > Wilma (Muscat), Gabe (UK), Cedrico (Dubai), J Cola, Joe Goa, > Aires Rodrigues." > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/66425/match= > > > But like "Jamima" the twit Cedrico also has the same spelling > preferences. See for example "Digamber" - > > http://tinyurl.com/nbb7gn > > > Or take the real clincher "communial" - > > http://tinyurl.com/n2odwt > > > I could cite more, but you get the idea. > > Next time, the donkey wants to pull off something like this, > better that he consult me first for some tips on how to partially > cover his digital pug marks. > > First Satyawan Govekar. Now Jamima. Next. > > > Warm regards, > > > > r > > > From: Jamima Dias > > Subject: [Goanet] Dubai-AUH Goans Beware > > To: > > goanet@lists.goanet.org > > Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 12:43 PM > > >Dear Goan brothers in Dubai=AUH. > >there is an attempt to further polarise the Goan community by > >injecting bitter bile and poison your minds about Goa through > >a campaign by raising panic among the Goans in Dubai and Auh. > >Please do not fall prey to any malicious presentations through > >photography being used to promote a hidden communial agenda > >and try and target a secular democratically elected Goan government. > >It is a shame that the Dubai church, or parish, overtly controlled > >by the malyalam fathers will allow the small group of Goans > >promoting the 'save Goa issue which is actually a front > >supported by Goa's main opposition party the BJP through > >photo campaigns and strong bitter words like loot and Rape. > >Please avoid this and boycott such meetings and people. > >A hard effort was made recently by the same fellows to > >encroach into Goan communities in Oman. The perpetuator > >of the documentary titled, rape of Goa was shunted out and > >shown the door as all in Oman are aware of his communial > >linkage with top anti minority parties in Goa. > > > >Please be careful my dear fellow Goans in the Gulf. > > > >Kind regards > >Jamima > > > -- > > > > Looking for local information? Find it on Yahoo! Local > http://in.local.yahoo.com/ _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/
Re: [Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima
A job welldone!! This is the actual Crab mentality that goans are most famous for. They won't do anything, and will not allow others do either. I was surprised to see Jamima's post on Goanet & now i know!! Jamima has only told Goan brothers & not sister's Why:-) I guess Arwin is doing wonderful...Please be there on 4th Sept. at St.Mary's church. From: Arwin Mesquita *UAE Goans Forum (Dubai Cell) Cordially Invites You: *To an action oriented meeting related to Goa & Its Identity. *Venue:* St. Mary's Church Rm no 6.above the Mini hall. *Date:* Friday 4th Sept 2009, *Timing:* 6:30 PM *Agenda for the meeting:* - Introduction - Documentary on Goa *(prepared by Rajan Parrikar, California - USA)* - Goa Identity presentation by Arwin Mesquita - Agree on next course of action. Please go to http://www.goamag.net/gim/ to register From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" Subject: [Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima To Goanet - The post quoted below was forwarded to me from Goanet. It took me a few nanoseconds to figure out who the skunk is hiding behind a phony ID. It is our dimwitted pal Cedrico Dacosta, whose ass I have had the pleasure of rubbishing several times here on this very group. I am delighted to note that his wounds haven't yet healed. "Jamima Dias" first surfaced in Dec 2007 (this was before I had kicked Cedrico's pustulated behind) and here he has nothing but praise for me: "A huge word of praise for Rajan Parriker, Floriano, Minguel, Wilma (Muscat), Gabe (UK), Cedrico (Dubai), J Cola, Joe Goa, Aires Rodrigues." http://article.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/66425/match= But like "Jamima" the twit Cedrico also has the same spelling preferences. See for example "Digamber" - http://tinyurl.com/nbb7gn Or take the real clincher "communial" - http://tinyurl.com/n2odwt I could cite more, but you get the idea. Next time, the donkey wants to pull off something like this, better that he consult me first for some tips on how to partially cover his digital pug marks. First Satyawan Govekar. Now Jamima. Next. From: Jamima Dias Subject: [Goanet] Dubai-AUH Goans Beware To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 12:43 PM Dear Goan brothers in Dubai=AUH. there is an attempt to further polarise the Goan community by injecting bitter bile and poison your minds about Goa through a campaign by raising panic among the Goans in Dubai and Auh. Please do not fall prey to any malicious presentations through photography being used to promote a hidden communial agenda and try and target a secular democratically elected Goan government. It is a shame that the Dubai church, or parish, overtly controlled by the malyalam fathers will allow the small group of Goans promoting the 'save Goa issue which is actually a front supported by Goa's main opposition party the BJP through photo campaigns and strong bitter words like loot and Rape. Please avoid this and boycott such meetings and people. A hard effort was made recently by the same fellows to encroach into Goan communities in Oman. The perpetuator of the documentary titled, rape of Goa was shunted out and shown the door as all in Oman are aware of his communial linkage with top anti minority parties in Goa. Please be careful my dear fellow Goans in the Gulf. Kind regards Jamima
[Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima
Looks like a job well done by Parrrikar. If not,, Jamima (if that is your real name) is free to call me on 050-6746091and who knows you might actually convince us.Whoever you are, as a "concerned" Goan, you should have had the courtesy to approach us before making such a defaming post on a public forum.Its a shame some of our very own so called Goans will sit back, do nothing, but go to length to derail something that others do.We are not even a formal organization and have no political affliations to any party or person.We are just a bunch of concerned goans doing our bit. Will the real slim Jamima, please stand up.please stand up,please stand up.and contact us ,so we know who you are and what your concerns are. Dev Borem Korunk Benedict Message: 4 Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:57:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima Message-ID: <1412.28109...@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To Goanet - The post quoted below was forwarded to me from Goanet. It took me a few nanoseconds to figure out who the skunk is hiding behind a phony ID. It is our dimwitted pal Cedrico Dacosta, whose ass I have had the pleasure of rubbishing several times here on this very group. I am delighted to note that his wounds haven't yet healed. "Jamima Dias" first surfaced in Dec 2007 (this was before I had kicked Cedrico's pustulated behind) and here he has nothing but praise for me: "A huge word of praise for Rajan Parriker, Floriano, Minguel, Wilma (Muscat), Gabe (UK), Cedrico (Dubai), J Cola, Joe Goa, Aires Rodrigues." http://article.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/66425/match= But like "Jamima" the twit Cedrico also has the same spelling preferences. See for example "Digamber" - http://tinyurl.com/nbb7gn Or take the real clincher "communial" - http://tinyurl.com/n2odwt I could cite more, but you get the idea. Next time, the donkey wants to pull off something like this, better that he consult me first for some tips on how to partially cover his digital pug marks. First Satyawan Govekar. Now Jamima. Next. Warm regards, r > From: Jamima Dias > Subject: [Goanet] Dubai-AUH Goans Beware > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 12:43 PM >Dear Goan brothers in Dubai=AUH. >there is an attempt to further polarise the Goan community by >injecting bitter bile and poison your minds about Goa through >a campaign by raising panic among the Goans in Dubai and Auh. >Please do not fall prey to any malicious presentations through >photography being used to promote a hidden communial agenda >and try and target a secular democratically elected Goan government. >It is a shame that the Dubai church, or parish, overtly controlled >by the malyalam fathers will allow the small group of Goans >promoting the 'save Goa issue which is actually a front >supported by Goa's main opposition party the BJP through >photo campaigns and strong bitter words like loot and Rape. >Please avoid this and boycott such meetings and people. >A hard effort was made recently by the same fellows to >encroach into Goan communities in Oman. The perpetuator >of the documentary titled, rape of Goa was shunted out and >shown the door as all in Oman are aware of his communial >linkage with top anti minority parties in Goa. > >Please be careful my dear fellow Goans in the Gulf. > >Kind regards >Jamima -- Looking for local information? Find it on Yahoo! Local http://in.local.yahoo.com/
[Goanet] Phony ID unmasked. Cedrico = Jamima
To Goanet - The post quoted below was forwarded to me from Goanet. It took me a few nanoseconds to figure out who the skunk is hiding behind a phony ID. It is our dimwitted pal Cedrico Dacosta, whose ass I have had the pleasure of rubbishing several times here on this very group. I am delighted to note that his wounds haven't yet healed. "Jamima Dias" first surfaced in Dec 2007 (this was before I had kicked Cedrico's pustulated behind) and here he has nothing but praise for me: "A huge word of praise for Rajan Parriker, Floriano, Minguel, Wilma (Muscat), Gabe (UK), Cedrico (Dubai), J Cola, Joe Goa, Aires Rodrigues." http://article.gmane.org/gmane.culture.region.india.goa/66425/match= But like "Jamima" the twit Cedrico also has the same spelling preferences. See for example "Digamber" - http://tinyurl.com/nbb7gn Or take the real clincher "communial" - http://tinyurl.com/n2odwt I could cite more, but you get the idea. Next time, the donkey wants to pull off something like this, better that he consult me first for some tips on how to partially cover his digital pug marks. First Satyawan Govekar. Now Jamima. Next. Warm regards, r > From: Jamima Dias > Subject: [Goanet] Dubai-AUH Goans Beware > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 12:43 PM >Dear Goan brothers in Dubai=AUH. >there is an attempt to further polarise the Goan community by >injecting bitter bile and poison your minds about Goa through >a campaign by raising panic among the Goans in Dubai and Auh. >Please do not fall prey to any malicious presentations through >photography being used to promote a hidden communial agenda >and try and target a secular democratically elected Goan government. >It is a shame that the Dubai church, or parish, overtly controlled >by the malyalam fathers will allow the small group of Goans >promoting the 'save Goa issue which is actually a front >supported by Goa's main opposition party the BJP through >photo campaigns and strong bitter words like loot and Rape. >Please avoid this and boycott such meetings and people. >A hard effort was made recently by the same fellows to >encroach into Goan communities in Oman. The perpetuator >of the documentary titled, rape of Goa was shunted out and >shown the door as all in Oman are aware of his communial >linkage with top anti minority parties in Goa. > >Please be careful my dear fellow Goans in the Gulf. > >Kind regards >Jamima
