Re: [Goanet] Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's destruction/ Mourning and Sorrow ........but ready to organise proxy Dances, festivals

2018-07-28 Thread Bernado Colaco 
 Força Mari. Publishing  a Youtube video on the invasion and the aftermath 
would be useful based on the top information produced by Sr. Nascimento Lobo 
(with his kind permission).
BC
On Friday, 27 July 2018, 22:01:11 GMT+8, Mari Silva 
 wrote:  
 
 Yes! I support him too. He is fire brand. We need to kick the  foolish  goans. 
Only then will they understand. Songs and  tiatros and social media has failed 
to open their eyes.
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 7:55 a.m. Bernado Colaco,  wrote:

 Credit must go to Miguel Barreto, he is trying to bring awareness to the 
foolish Goans. It is time to support him.
BC
On Thursday, 26 July 2018, 23:39:25 GMT+8, atanasio lobo 
 wrote:  
 
 Dear Miguel Barretto,
I appreciate your concern for Goa and our Motherland Goa. But you blaming all 
the Goans who are having parties, boozing and having a good time is a bit too 
far fetched and totally unreasonable.
Yes, boozing, partying and merry making is a Goan Culture, and we need to do 
this to reward ourselves for our had work and to celebrate our successes. We 
Goans who are outside Goa cannot be expected to wear mournful faces and do 
fasting and penance for our brothers in Goa. Yes we sympathize with them, but 
they are the ones who are un-concerned, perpetually sitting on their hands and 
not doing anything appropriate to better their miserable situations. In short, 
the Goans in Goa are dumb and they have brought this upon themselves which they 
well deserve. Yes they seem to be comfortable, immune or maybe even blind to 
what is happening and what is going to happen. For an example, the FREE GOA 
petition that I put up on change.org http://chn.ge/2BjKAls  has till today the 
least amount of signatures from Goans in Goa and more signatures from Goans 
Overseas. We can lead a horse to the water ...
Goans in Goa are themselves having a party all the time. They eat, drink and 
enjoy more than we, the Goans overseas. Once they start starving and get pulled 
out into the streets and burnt alive, that is the time they will open their 
eyes. Now their tummies are full and they have various philosophical ideas why 
not to do anything about their status. Once the tummies are starved and there 
is threat to their very existence, their minds will probably open up and there 
will be a revolution - like the French Revolution.
Till then, let us lay back, sympathise in our spare time and say VIVA GOA that 
used to be our Motherland. I myself sacrificed the prime of my youth in Goa for 
Goa and Goans and left for Canada totally frustrated by the Goan attitude 
before I got too old to provide a good life to my wife and kids. God helps 
those who help themselves.
Cheers
Atanasio Lobo (Nash)CanadaFrom: Miguel Barreto 
Sent: July 26, 2018 9:44 AM
To: BB AAssoc4994; Atanasio Lobo; Floriano Lobo; Bernado Colaco; Cinzasqueimar 
Pereira; Goatoronto Info; joego...@yahoo.co.uk; Goanet Info; 
micae...@rediffmail.com; Salus Correia; Francisco Monteiro; BB Goansofamerica; 
Arwin Mesquita; Judith Almeida; Viola Pereira; Pedro Lopes; 
goanet@lists.goanet.org; Goaforgiving Info; Carmen Miranda; Neshwin Almeida; Dr 
Olav Albuquerque; Jose Marie; airesrodrig...@yahoo.com; 
airesrodrigu...@gmail.com; another...@gmail.com; Mari Silva; Joseph L. R. Vaz; 
jason_keith_fernan...@yahoo.co.in
Subject: Re: Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's destruction/ 
Mourning and Sorrow but ready to organise proxy Dances, festivals 
Correction :- few Handfull  Goans ,..not all
Hi  AllHave you ever seen a Human being / Righteous Goan  or simple common 
sence Goan , who  dances, organises parties, festivals  in UK, USA, Austrialia, 
Europe...   while his own mother/ Motherland  is being ripped off, openly 
destroyed  and is on the verge of total destruction ???
Very soon  Goans in UK will have Goan Day on 5th Aug , as other NULL Blind 
Goans will do in other part of the world where they  will dance,  booze, and 
behave as though Nothing is wrong in Goa and the suffering Goans in Goanor 
will they raise concerns about the loot and plunder of Goa .and how to get 
together to save Goa before too late.!
What a Pride ???  and honor and self proclaimation/ false fame they seek 
. to fool whom !!
They say "Idiots"  is much better word  then  "Blind double mouth  
Judas/Pharisees "  So i just  pray  on God:-- May these Blind JUDAS be rebuked 
by God soon   .and may God too ignore their sorrow, cries and  hopelessness 
 as Goans in Goa are going through , because  Goans living in other part of the 
world  have become BLIND  JUDAS .  My God   do to them the same when they need 
Help or need someone to help them. Amen.
As for us , we will SEEK  Gods HELP ( Way , truth and life)  and also SEEK   
HELP from those Nations, allies to save Goa before too Late.   And we will 
prevail in the end. Amen
NOTE:   I don't  trust   NIZGOENKAR - DOUBLE FACE   JUDAS ,  WHO LIES EXPOSED 
Barreto.

Re: [Goanet] Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's destruction/ Mourning and Sorrow ........but ready to organise proxy Dances, festivals

2018-07-27 Thread Mari Silva 
Yes! I support him too. He is fire brand. We need to kick the  foolish
goans. Only then will they understand. Songs and  tiatros and social media
has failed to open their eyes.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2018, 7:55 a.m. Bernado Colaco,  wrote:

> Credit must go to Miguel Barreto, he is trying to bring awareness to the
> foolish Goans. It is time to support him.
>
> BC
>
> On Thursday, 26 July 2018, 23:39:25 GMT+8, atanasio lobo <
> atanasiol...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Miguel Barretto,
>
> I appreciate your concern for Goa and our Motherland Goa. But you blaming
> all the Goans who are having parties, boozing and having a good time is a
> bit too far fetched and totally unreasonable.
>
> Yes, boozing, partying and merry making is a Goan Culture, and we need to
> do this to reward ourselves for our had work and to celebrate our
> successes. We Goans who are outside Goa cannot be expected to wear mournful
> faces and do fasting and penance for our brothers in Goa. Yes we sympathize
> with them, but they are the ones who are un-concerned, perpetually sitting
> on their hands and not doing anything appropriate to better their miserable
> situations. In short, the Goans in Goa are dumb and they have brought this
> upon themselves which they well deserve. Yes they seem to be comfortable,
> immune or maybe even blind to what is happening and what is going to
> happen. For an example, the FREE GOA petition that I put up on change.org
> http://chn.ge/2BjKAls  has till today the least amount of signatures from
> Goans in Goa and more signatures from Goans Overseas. We can lead a horse
> to the water ...
>
> Goans in Goa are themselves having a party all the time. They eat, drink
> and enjoy more than we, the Goans overseas. Once they start starving and
> get pulled out into the streets and burnt alive, that is the time they will
> open their eyes. Now their tummies are full and they have various
> philosophical ideas why not to do anything about their status. Once the
> tummies are starved and there is threat to their very existence, their
> minds will probably open up and there will be a revolution - like the
> French Revolution.
>
> Till then, let us lay back, sympathise in our spare time and say VIVA GOA
> that used to be our Motherland. I myself sacrificed the prime of my youth
> in Goa for Goa and Goans and left for Canada totally frustrated by the Goan
> attitude before I got too old to provide a good life to my wife and kids.
> God helps those who help themselves.
>
> Cheers
>
> Atanasio Lobo (Nash)
> Canada
> --
> *From:* Miguel Barreto 
> *Sent:* July 26, 2018 9:44 AM
> *To:* BB AAssoc4994; Atanasio Lobo; Floriano Lobo; Bernado Colaco;
> Cinzasqueimar Pereira; Goatoronto Info; joego...@yahoo.co.uk; Goanet
> Info; micae...@rediffmail.com; Salus Correia; Francisco Monteiro; BB
> Goansofamerica; Arwin Mesquita; Judith Almeida; Viola Pereira; Pedro Lopes;
> goanet@lists.goanet.org; Goaforgiving Info; Carmen Miranda; Neshwin
> Almeida; Dr Olav Albuquerque; Jose Marie; airesrodrig...@yahoo.com;
> airesrodrigu...@gmail.com; another...@gmail.com; Mari Silva; Joseph L. R.
> Vaz; jason_keith_fernan...@yahoo.co.in
> *Subject:* Re: Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's
> destruction/ Mourning and Sorrow but ready to organise proxy
> Dances, festivals
>
>
> Correction :- few Handfull  Goans ,..not all
>
> Hi  All
> Have you ever seen a Human being / Righteous Goan  or simple common sence
> Goan , who  dances, organises parties, festivals  in UK, USA, Austrialia,
> Europe...   while his own mother/ Motherland  is being ripped off, openly
> destroyed  and is on the verge of total destruction ???
>
> Very soon  Goans in UK will have Goan Day on 5th Aug , as other NULL Blind
> Goans will do in other part of the world where they  will dance,  booze,
> and behave as though Nothing is wrong in Goa and the suffering Goans in
> Goanor will they raise concerns about the loot and plunder of Goa
> .and how to get together to save Goa before too late.!
>
> What a Pride ???  and honor and self proclaimation/ false fame they seek
> . to fool whom !!
>
> They say "Idiots"  is much better word  then  "Blind double mouth
> Judas/Pharisees "
>
> So i just  pray  on God:-- May these Blind JUDAS be rebuked by God soon
>  .and may God too ignore their sorrow, cries and  hopelessness  as
> Goans in Goa are going through , because  Goans living in other part of the
> world  have become BLIND  JUDAS .
> My God   do to them the same when they need Help or need someone to help
> them.
> Amen.
>
> As for us , we will SEEK  Gods HELP ( Way , truth and life)  and also
> SEEK   HELP from those Nations, allies to save Goa before too Late.   And
> we will prevail in the end.
> Amen
>
> NOTE:   I don't  trust   NIZGOENKAR - DOUBLE FACE   JUDAS ,  WHO LIES
> EXPOSED
>
> Barreto.
>

Re: [Goanet] Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's destruction/ Mourning and Sorrow ........but ready to organise proxy Dances, festivals

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On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 18:58, Venantius J Pinto 
wrote:

> Completely agree with Mari. And you do not have to traipse the desi
> way: "just my way."
> Your points are solid and do not need anyone's validation.
>
> There are Judases, but I also feel that many in his avatar, do not
> even know they are playing that role.
> Perhaps too much to lose. Zait ghoddek!
>
> Mari Silva: I don't think it will be like a French revolution as Goans
> would be vastly
> outnumbered but some sort of civil unrest may happen before we are finished
> for good.
> vjp: Sharp! I too feel strongly that the part of being finished off is
> getting closer to coming to pass.
> But most do not understand its various forms of annexation, and
> manifestations.
>
> Asotak tan sotak amcam pavoi
>
>
> Venantius J Pinto
>
>
> +
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:34 AM, Venantius J Pinto
>  wrote:
> >
> > Completely agree with Mari. And you do not have to traipse the desi way:
> "just my way." Your points are solid and do not need anyone's validation.
> >
> > There are Judases, but I also feel that do not even know they are
> playing that role. Perhaps too much to lose. Zait ghoddek!
> >
> > Mari Silva: I don't think it will be like a French revolution as goans
> would be vastly
> > outnumbered but some sort of civil unrest may happen before we are
> finished
> > for good.
> > vjp: Sharp! I too feel strongly that the part of being finished off is
> getting closer to coming to pass.
> > But most do not understand its various forms of annexation, and
> manifestations.
> >
> > Asotak tan sotak amcam pavoi.
> >
> > Venantius J Pinto
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Mari Silva 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Goans are in a compromised state. You can't blame the commonman who just
> >> wants to live a normal live and is continuously trying to find a way to
> >> better his living. Unfortunately for goans, this has been our
> unfortunate
> >> fate and Nash has rightly said worse is still to come.
> >>
> >>  I don't think it will be like a French revolution as goans would be
> vastly
> >> outnumbered but some sort of civil unrest may happen before we are
> finished
> >> for good.
> >>
> >> Our only hope is intervention of UN or the world powers to give justice
> and
> >> I see the Free goa petition as the only ray of hope aimed towards this
> end.
> >>
> >> As regards to goans in Goa, I have had favourable response from most in
> >> goa. I am sure if some ground level grass root effort is made the
> petition
> >> to the UN will go viral. We need to keep pushing the petition and not
> give
> >> up because of the few Judases around.
> >>
> >> Just my view.
> >> Regards,
> >> Mari
> >>
> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, 4:39 p.m. atanasio lobo,  >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Miguel Barretto,
> >> >
> >> > I appreciate your concern for Goa and our Motherland Goa. But you
> blaming
> >> > all the Goans who are having parties, boozing and having a good time
> is a
> >> > bit too far fetched and totally unreasonable.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, boozing, partying and merry making is a Goan Culture, and we
> need to
> >> > do this to reward ourselves for our had work and to celebrate our
> >> > successes. We Goans who are outside Goa cannot be expected to wear
> mournful
> >> > faces and do fasting and penance for our brothers in Goa. Yes we
> sympathize
> >> > with them, but they are the ones who are un-concerned, perpetually
> sitting
> >> > on their hands and not doing anything appropriate to better their
> miserable
> >> > situations. In short, the Goans in Goa are dumb and they have brought
> this
> >> > upon themselves which they well deserve. Yes they seem to be
> comfortable,
> >> > immune or maybe even blind to what is happening and what is going to
> >> > happen. For an example, the FREE GOA petition that I put up on
> change.org
> >> > http://chn.ge/2BjKAls  has till today the least amount of signatures
> from
> >> > Goans in Goa and more signatures from Goans Overseas. We can lead a
> horse
> >> > to the water ...
> >> >
> >> > Goans in Goa are themselves having a party all the time. They eat,
> drink
> >> > and enjoy more than we, the Goans overseas. Once they start starving
> and
> >> > get pulled out into the streets and burnt alive, that is the time
> they will
> >> > open their eyes. Now their tummies are full and they have various
> >> > philosophical ideas why not to do anything about their status. Once
> the
> >> > tummies are starved and there is threat to their very existence, their
> >> > minds will probably open up and there will be a revolution - like the
> >> > French Revolution.
> >> >
> >> > Till then, let us lay back, sympathise in our

Re: [Goanet] Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's destruction/ Mourning and Sorrow ........but ready to organise proxy Dances, festivals

2018-07-27 Thread Venantius J Pinto 
Completely agree with Mari. And you do not have to traipse the desi
way: "just my way."
Your points are solid and do not need anyone's validation.

There are Judases, but I also feel that many in his avatar, do not
even know they are playing that role.
Perhaps too much to lose. Zait ghoddek!

Mari Silva: I don't think it will be like a French revolution as Goans
would be vastly
outnumbered but some sort of civil unrest may happen before we are finished
for good.
vjp: Sharp! I too feel strongly that the part of being finished off is
getting closer to coming to pass.
But most do not understand its various forms of annexation, and manifestations.

Asotak tan sotak amcam pavoi


Venantius J Pinto


+


On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:34 AM, Venantius J Pinto
 wrote:
>
> Completely agree with Mari. And you do not have to traipse the desi way: 
> "just my way." Your points are solid and do not need anyone's validation.
>
> There are Judases, but I also feel that do not even know they are playing 
> that role. Perhaps too much to lose. Zait ghoddek!
>
> Mari Silva: I don't think it will be like a French revolution as goans would 
> be vastly
> outnumbered but some sort of civil unrest may happen before we are finished
> for good.
> vjp: Sharp! I too feel strongly that the part of being finished off is 
> getting closer to coming to pass.
> But most do not understand its various forms of annexation, and 
> manifestations.
>
> Asotak tan sotak amcam pavoi.
>
> Venantius J Pinto
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:52 PM, Mari Silva  wrote:
>>
>> Goans are in a compromised state. You can't blame the commonman who just
>> wants to live a normal live and is continuously trying to find a way to
>> better his living. Unfortunately for goans, this has been our unfortunate
>> fate and Nash has rightly said worse is still to come.
>>
>>  I don't think it will be like a French revolution as goans would be vastly
>> outnumbered but some sort of civil unrest may happen before we are finished
>> for good.
>>
>> Our only hope is intervention of UN or the world powers to give justice and
>> I see the Free goa petition as the only ray of hope aimed towards this end.
>>
>> As regards to goans in Goa, I have had favourable response from most in
>> goa. I am sure if some ground level grass root effort is made the petition
>> to the UN will go viral. We need to keep pushing the petition and not give
>> up because of the few Judases around.
>>
>> Just my view.
>> Regards,
>> Mari
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, 4:39 p.m. atanasio lobo, 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Miguel Barretto,
>> >
>> > I appreciate your concern for Goa and our Motherland Goa. But you blaming
>> > all the Goans who are having parties, boozing and having a good time is a
>> > bit too far fetched and totally unreasonable.
>> >
>> > Yes, boozing, partying and merry making is a Goan Culture, and we need to
>> > do this to reward ourselves for our had work and to celebrate our
>> > successes. We Goans who are outside Goa cannot be expected to wear mournful
>> > faces and do fasting and penance for our brothers in Goa. Yes we sympathize
>> > with them, but they are the ones who are un-concerned, perpetually sitting
>> > on their hands and not doing anything appropriate to better their miserable
>> > situations. In short, the Goans in Goa are dumb and they have brought this
>> > upon themselves which they well deserve. Yes they seem to be comfortable,
>> > immune or maybe even blind to what is happening and what is going to
>> > happen. For an example, the FREE GOA petition that I put up on change.org
>> > http://chn.ge/2BjKAls  has till today the least amount of signatures from
>> > Goans in Goa and more signatures from Goans Overseas. We can lead a horse
>> > to the water ...
>> >
>> > Goans in Goa are themselves having a party all the time. They eat, drink
>> > and enjoy more than we, the Goans overseas. Once they start starving and
>> > get pulled out into the streets and burnt alive, that is the time they will
>> > open their eyes. Now their tummies are full and they have various
>> > philosophical ideas why not to do anything about their status. Once the
>> > tummies are starved and there is threat to their very existence, their
>> > minds will probably open up and there will be a revolution - like the
>> > French Revolution.
>> >
>> > Till then, let us lay back, sympathise in our spare time and say VIVA GOA
>> > that used to be our Motherland. I myself sacrificed the prime of my youth
>> > in Goa for Goa and Goans and left for Canada totally frustrated by the Goan
>> > attitude before I got too old to provide a good life to my wife and kids.
>> > God helps those who help themselves.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Atanasio Lobo (Nash)
>> > Canada
>> > --
>> > *From:* Miguel Barreto 
>> > *Sent:* July 26, 2018 9:44 AM
>> > *To:* BB AAssoc4994; Atanasio Lobo; Floriano Lobo; Bernado Colaco;
>> > Cinzasqueimar Pereira; Goatoronto Info; joego...@yahoo.co.uk; Goanet
>>

Re: [Goanet] Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's destruction/ Mourning and Sorrow ........but ready to organise proxy Dances, festivals

2018-07-26 Thread Mari Silva 
Goans are in a compromised state. You can't blame the commonman who just
wants to live a normal live and is continuously trying to find a way to
better his living. Unfortunately for goans, this has been our unfortunate
fate and Nash has rightly said worse is still to come.

 I don't think it will be like a French revolution as goans would be vastly
outnumbered but some sort of civil unrest may happen before we are finished
for good.

Our only hope is intervention of UN or the world powers to give justice and
I see the Free goa petition as the only ray of hope aimed towards this end.

As regards to goans in Goa, I have had favourable response from most in
goa. I am sure if some ground level grass root effort is made the petition
to the UN will go viral. We need to keep pushing the petition and not give
up because of the few Judases around.

Just my view.
Regards,
Mari

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, 4:39 p.m. atanasio lobo, 
wrote:

> Dear Miguel Barretto,
>
> I appreciate your concern for Goa and our Motherland Goa. But you blaming
> all the Goans who are having parties, boozing and having a good time is a
> bit too far fetched and totally unreasonable.
>
> Yes, boozing, partying and merry making is a Goan Culture, and we need to
> do this to reward ourselves for our had work and to celebrate our
> successes. We Goans who are outside Goa cannot be expected to wear mournful
> faces and do fasting and penance for our brothers in Goa. Yes we sympathize
> with them, but they are the ones who are un-concerned, perpetually sitting
> on their hands and not doing anything appropriate to better their miserable
> situations. In short, the Goans in Goa are dumb and they have brought this
> upon themselves which they well deserve. Yes they seem to be comfortable,
> immune or maybe even blind to what is happening and what is going to
> happen. For an example, the FREE GOA petition that I put up on change.org
> http://chn.ge/2BjKAls  has till today the least amount of signatures from
> Goans in Goa and more signatures from Goans Overseas. We can lead a horse
> to the water ...
>
> Goans in Goa are themselves having a party all the time. They eat, drink
> and enjoy more than we, the Goans overseas. Once they start starving and
> get pulled out into the streets and burnt alive, that is the time they will
> open their eyes. Now their tummies are full and they have various
> philosophical ideas why not to do anything about their status. Once the
> tummies are starved and there is threat to their very existence, their
> minds will probably open up and there will be a revolution - like the
> French Revolution.
>
> Till then, let us lay back, sympathise in our spare time and say VIVA GOA
> that used to be our Motherland. I myself sacrificed the prime of my youth
> in Goa for Goa and Goans and left for Canada totally frustrated by the Goan
> attitude before I got too old to provide a good life to my wife and kids.
> God helps those who help themselves.
>
> Cheers
>
> Atanasio Lobo (Nash)
> Canada
> --
> *From:* Miguel Barreto 
> *Sent:* July 26, 2018 9:44 AM
> *To:* BB AAssoc4994; Atanasio Lobo; Floriano Lobo; Bernado Colaco;
> Cinzasqueimar Pereira; Goatoronto Info; joego...@yahoo.co.uk; Goanet
> Info; micae...@rediffmail.com; Salus Correia; Francisco Monteiro; BB
> Goansofamerica; Arwin Mesquita; Judith Almeida; Viola Pereira; Pedro Lopes;
> goanet@lists.goanet.org; Goaforgiving Info; Carmen Miranda; Neshwin
> Almeida; Dr Olav Albuquerque; Jose Marie; airesrodrig...@yahoo.com;
> airesrodrigu...@gmail.com; another...@gmail.com; Mari Silva; Joseph L. R.
> Vaz; jason_keith_fernan...@yahoo.co.in
> *Subject:* Re: Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's
> destruction/ Mourning and Sorrow but ready to organise proxy
> Dances, festivals
>
>
> Correction :- few Handfull  Goans ,..not all
>
> Hi  All
> Have you ever seen a Human being / Righteous Goan  or simple common sence
> Goan , who  dances, organises parties, festivals  in UK, USA, Austrialia,
> Europe...   while his own mother/ Motherland  is being ripped off, openly
> destroyed  and is on the verge of total destruction ???
>
> Very soon  Goans in UK will have Goan Day on 5th Aug , as other NULL Blind
> Goans will do in other part of the world where they  will dance,  booze,
> and behave as though Nothing is wrong in Goa and the suffering Goans in
> Goanor will they raise concerns about the loot and plunder of Goa
> .and how to get together to save Goa before too late.!
>
> What a Pride ???  and honor and self proclaimation/ false fame they seek
> . to fool whom !!
>
> They say "Idiots"  is much better word  then  "Blind double mouth
> Judas/Pharisees "
>
> So i just  pray  on God:-- May these Blind JUDAS be rebuked by God soon
>  .and may God too ignore their sorrow, cries and  hopelessness  as
> Goans in Goa are going through , because  Goans living in other part of the
> world  have become BLIND  JUDAS .
> My God

Re: [Goanet] Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's destruction/ Mourning and Sorrow ........but ready to organise proxy Dances, festivals

2018-07-26 Thread Venantius J Pinto 
In General:
Logics are often not that simple; besides often too hard to abide with.

When someone says Goans are this or that, any self-respecting sentient must
not see it as a tar, a wash, a smear on all Goans. Even if it may be, we
cannot fight conjectures (or what we think), and should not. That form of
argumentation is of the street kind. It helps to know the writer or to at
least say, I'd like you to clarify this for me.

Too often too many of us want our words to resonate a certain way and
we construct ideas and notions that come from some righteousness. As a
people, we come seem to unite when there is sufficient fear in the mix.

Why is it so -- If we are all that, and possibly having absorbed the fruits
of the Enlightenment, The Age of Reason, Portuguese ideas and ways of
being, Other ways of being, including all that the idea of India has on
offer -- yes, yes the Bible, the Upanishads, the Vedas, Manguesha,
Dnyaneshwar, Chokamela, Baginibai, Brahmo Samaj, Goan poets and writers,
Bede Griffiths (Swami Dayananda), [and not everyone's cup of tea/chau]).
Why?

And note the "daya" in Bede Griffiths, Dayananda. Daya + Ananda. And
exactly what is being sought in the rigors of our unbridled angsts. Are we
truly a people kind to ourselves. Here I am only talking about those who
have made it and upon the rise. So a Marlon or a Herman do what they do.
They initiate as others have. No one can begrudge them.

Change only takes place when people unite to fight any ills. To do so one
must feel a certain way. But all cannot summon the urge to get involved.
Someone may start a petition, but many will not align with it. Perhaps they
have their reasons and their fears. Like the writer said: Leading a horse
to the water. What if the horse peed in the water. Oxli gott.

But we must have the stomach to accept that a portion of our own does not
see through a collective eye. Perhaps they never will, but contort in anger
and friustration; and hubris. Things rise and fall on aspirations.

Those who are abroad, and those among those who are doing well, in my
opinion (and I live in NY, and it's not easy at all) should simply be. You
did, you tried. Some of you were the same who chortled how cheap it was to
stay at a hotel someplace with family. But most Goans in Goans, and I mean
the articulate, etc., cannot afford that. I know a couple of writers who
would love a paid trip someplace. But things are not the same for the many.
There is no real parity in real terms, nor is there parity in the anguish
and among the anguished on various shores.

It's much better to simply acknowledge to oneself who one is, and lend one
mind, be a voice of reason, be thoughtful when spending $10 on a movie for
two when spending $8 for six on ice cream sundaes. Or for that matter
expensive lingerie. Oh and wooden rosaries for good measure.

We have stellar individuals, education wise who will never cease the gross
opportunity to attach. They married well, children doing well, so what
demons do they have?

Praise your acumen, and possibly the God behind it. Seek Goanity in the
various nooks you see. Make contributions by doing and also not doing
certain things. So, nothing that hurts Goa, including what is available in
the market, in the stores. To do that needs awareness, and begins with who
you are, what makes you feel Goan and do you think you think as one.

Hanv attan vetan. Vel zalo devak amchya dissot vait!

Venantius J Pinto


On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:39 AM, atanasio lobo 
wrote:

> Dear Miguel Barretto,
>
> I appreciate your concern for Goa and our Motherland Goa. But you blaming
> all the Goans who are having parties, boozing and having a good time is a
> bit too far fetched and totally unreasonable.
>
> Yes, boozing, partying and merry making is a Goan Culture, and we need to
> do this to reward ourselves for our had work and to celebrate our
> successes. We Goans who are outside Goa cannot be expected to wear mournful
> faces and do fasting and penance for our brothers in Goa. Yes we sympathize
> with them, but they are the ones who are un-concerned, perpetually sitting
> on their hands and not doing anything appropriate to better their miserable
> situations. In short, the Goans in Goa are dumb and they have brought this
> upon themselves which they well deserve. Yes they seem to be comfortable,
> immune or maybe even blind to what is happening and what is going to
> happen. For an example, the FREE GOA petition that I put up on change.org
> http://chn.ge/2BjKAls  has till today the least amount of signatures from
> Goans in Goa and more signatures from Goans Overseas. We can lead a horse
> to the water ...
>
> Goans in Goa are themselves having a party all the time. They eat, drink
> and enjoy more than we, the Goans overseas. Once they start starving and
> get pulled out into the streets and burnt alive, that is the time they will
> open their eyes. Now their tummies are full and they have various
> philosophical ideas why not to

Re: [Goanet] Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's destruction/ Mourning and Sorrow ........but ready to organise proxy Dances, festivals

2018-07-26 Thread atanasio lobo 
Dear Miguel Barretto,

I appreciate your concern for Goa and our Motherland Goa. But you blaming all 
the Goans who are having parties, boozing and having a good time is a bit too 
far fetched and totally unreasonable.

Yes, boozing, partying and merry making is a Goan Culture, and we need to do 
this to reward ourselves for our had work and to celebrate our successes. We 
Goans who are outside Goa cannot be expected to wear mournful faces and do 
fasting and penance for our brothers in Goa. Yes we sympathize with them, but 
they are the ones who are un-concerned, perpetually sitting on their hands and 
not doing anything appropriate to better their miserable situations. In short, 
the Goans in Goa are dumb and they have brought this upon themselves which they 
well deserve. Yes they seem to be comfortable, immune or maybe even blind to 
what is happening and what is going to happen. For an example, the FREE GOA 
petition that I put up on change.org http://chn.ge/2BjKAls  has till today the 
least amount of signatures from Goans in Goa and more signatures from Goans 
Overseas. We can lead a horse to the water ...

Goans in Goa are themselves having a party all the time. They eat, drink and 
enjoy more than we, the Goans overseas. Once they start starving and get pulled 
out into the streets and burnt alive, that is the time they will open their 
eyes. Now their tummies are full and they have various philosophical ideas why 
not to do anything about their status. Once the tummies are starved and there 
is threat to their very existence, their minds will probably open up and there 
will be a revolution - like the French Revolution.

Till then, let us lay back, sympathise in our spare time and say VIVA GOA that 
used to be our Motherland. I myself sacrificed the prime of my youth in Goa for 
Goa and Goans and left for Canada totally frustrated by the Goan attitude 
before I got too old to provide a good life to my wife and kids. God helps 
those who help themselves.

Cheers

Atanasio Lobo (Nash)
Canada

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Subject: Re: Pompous Foolish ignorant Blind Goans?? ignore Goa's destruction/ 
Mourning and Sorrow but ready to organise proxy Dances, festivals


Correction :- few Handfull  Goans ,..not all

Hi  All
Have you ever seen a Human being / Righteous Goan  or simple common sence Goan 
, who  dances, organises parties, festivals  in UK, USA, Austrialia, Europe...  
 while his own mother/ Motherland  is being ripped off, openly destroyed  and 
is on the verge of total destruction ???

Very soon  Goans in UK will have Goan Day on 5th Aug , as other NULL Blind 
Goans will do in other part of the world where they  will dance,  booze, and 
behave as though Nothing is wrong in Goa and the suffering Goans in Goanor 
will they raise concerns about the loot and plunder of Goa .and how to get 
together to save Goa before too late.!

What a Pride ???  and honor and self proclaimation/ false fame they seek 
. to fool whom !!

They say "Idiots"  is much better word  then  "Blind double mouth  
Judas/Pharisees "

So i just  pray  on God:-- May these Blind JUDAS be rebuked by God soon   
.and may God too ignore their sorrow, cries and  hopelessness  as Goans in 
Goa are going through , because  Goans living in other part of the world  have 
become BLIND  JUDAS .
My God   do to them the same when they need Help or need someone to help them.
Amen.

As for us , we will SEEK  Gods HELP ( Way , truth and life)  and also SEEK   
HELP from those Nations, allies to save Goa before too Late.   And we will 
prevail in the end.
Amen

NOTE:   I don't  trust   NIZGOENKAR - DOUBLE FACE   JUDAS ,  WHO LIES EXPOSED

Barreto.