Re: [Goanet] Punjabi Christian reject Goan Bishops in Pakistan

2009-11-25 Thread Frederick Noronha
But is this true?

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About 80 percent of the Christians in Pakistan live in Punjab
province, yet most bishops trace their descent back to Goa or
Mangalore in neighboring India.

http://www.ucanews.com/2009/09/23/diocese-in-restive-region-gets-new-bishop-on-peace-day/

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2009/11/24 John DSouza jfdsouza2...@yahoo.co.uk:

 It is also wrong to say that there are no
 Punjabi bishops..currently there are two
 Punjabi Bishops...Sebastian Shah of Lahore
 and Rufin Anthony of Rawalpindi-Islamabad.

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[Goanet] Punjabi Christian reject Goan Bishops in Pakistan

2009-11-23 Thread John DSouza
The above mentioned story carries many false statements. 
 
Firstly, there are still ( thank God) about 10,000 Goans in Pakistan about 
9,700 of them  in Karachi alone.
 
Also, Goans were never helped by the church to migrate to the West. However, 
the Protestant churches did help in sending large amounts of Punjabi Christians 
to the west under the Special Agricultural Workers ( US SAW Visas program ) of 
the mid-70's. Many were also sent to train at church run seminaries never to 
return.
 
Bishop John Joseph of Faisalabad shot himself in the head outside the a 
Courthouse  in broad-day light in front of hundreds of people on May 6, 1998. 
(See Daily Dawn, Karachi of May 7, 1998.)
 
Later it transpired that he did so to cover up massive financial wrong doings 
and avoid being defrocked by the Vatican. Still he did considerable financial 
damage to the diocese of Faisalabad and left it broke. His close lady associate 
also managed to take away the parish-owned land cruiser.
 
It is also wrong to say that there are no Punjabi bishops..currently there are 
two Punjabi Bishops...Sebastian Shah of Lahore and Rufin Anthony of 
Rawalpindi-Islamabad.
 
The Goan clergy do not meddle in politics...and it was a government decision to 
revert to the Joint Electorate system which was the norm from the creation of 
Pakistan until the dictator Gen. Zia-ul-Haq imposed the Separate Electorate 
System under pressure of the mullahs. In the Separate Electorate system 
minorities can only vote for a minority candidate which were only 10  out of 
237 National Assembly members. 
 
The vast majority of minorities of Pakistan left cut of from the main stream 
and held many protest demonstrations etc to restore the Joint Electorate System 
under which one can vote for any candidate irrespective of religion and it was 
re-instated by Gen. Musharraf.
 
regards,
 
John