[Goanet] Respect our right to Identity
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Book Release: Goanetter Valmiki Faleiro's Patriotism in Action Dec 18, 2010 (Sat) at 5.30 pm at Goa Chitra, Benaulim, Goa Copies available at: Hotel Mandovi or Broadway (Panjim), OIB (Mapusa), Sainik Co-Op (Porvorim), Literati (Calangute), David Co, Confidante (Margao) David Co Mumbai, Mumbai Catholic Gymkhana; Manney's and Popular (Pune), Narayan (Bangalore), Ritana Books (Delhi). Online: http://goa1556.notlong.com (DefenceColony Flyover Market) --- Apropos the discussion taking place about the appointment of a person from the same state to various important offices, I have attempted to provideinformation regarding the appointment to various offices like Governor, Police chief, Judges, Human Rights Commissoner. Governor – as per convention, no person hailing from the same state has been appointed as Governor of that state. The most plausible reason could be to maintain neutrality and avoid conflict of interest. Governors exercise no executive powers. They are titular heads like the President or the Queen of England. The only time the Governor exercises executive powers is when the state is under President’s Rule or when there is a breakdown in state machinery where no government can be formed. Under President’s Rule, the real power is wielded by the bureaucrats. President’s Rule can be imposed for a maximum of 6 months only. After the Bommai case judgement, it has become very difficult to impose President’s Rule under Article 356. Under extraordinary circumstances as that which was prevailing in Punjab and JK, President’s Rule can be extended for further periods upto 6 months each with the approval of Parliament. Police Chief – a person from the same state can be appointed as Police Chief. Eg: KPS Gill DGP of Punjab, K P Medhekar DGP of Maharshtra, S S Khandwala DGP of Gujarat. Judges – until 1993 judges to the High Court were appointed from the same state. However, due to allegations of corruption, bias and favouritism, in 1993 the policy was changed making the services of High Court judges transferable anywhere within India. Hence today, judges of the HC are transferred from one state to another state, and generally the Chief Justice has always been a person from outside the state. Human Rights Commissioner- There is no bar on the appointment of a person from the same state to the office of State Human Rights Commissioner. In fact, if one gleans through the names of other state commissioners, nearly all of them hail from the same state. Goa seems to have become an exception for reasons only the appointing authority can answer. http://www.shrc.tn.nic.in/
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A native can never be a governor of his native place. Nor can a native be an IGP. For obvious reasons (ie prevent possible coup-de etat or its equivalent). Only exception to the above convention was when a Goan, Bernardo Peres da Silva was made a Prefect (Prefeito do Estado da India) rather than Governor-General, in 1822 and then again in 1827. Therefore, a Goan can never be a Governor or an IGP of Goa. - Original Message From: Vasant Baliga vabal...@yahoo.com To: Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tue, 14 December, 2010 4:47:51 PM Subject: [Goanet] Respect our right to Identity Oscar Lobo: And by the way, I was asked Why do we have a Sikh as the Governor of Goa? Don't we have reputable Goans left in Goa for this position? How can one respect our identity with a Governor from other state? Response from Marshall: As per the Constitution or maybe practice (I need to check and confirm) persons from the same state cannot be appointed as Governors. However, a few days ago Fredertick posted a news item that the head of the State Human Rights Commission was a retired justice from Bihar.This I am not able to fathom why a person from Bihar needed to be appointed in Goa. Comment from Vasant: There is no Constitutional Bar on any person being appointed as Governor of any state-General Sunith Francis Rodrigues was appointed Governor of Punjab in 2004-Sikhs could ask why a Sikh was not appointed to maintain the Sikh Identity? Justice Ferdino Inacio Rebello has been appointed Chief Justice of the Allahabad High Court earlier this year.Why not someone from UP? http://allahabadhighcourt.in/service/judgeDetail.jsp?id=156
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The comment a Goan can never be an IGP of Goa was made to me by a prominent DySP of South Goa for reasons mentioned earlier. PS may have been in an acting position, but then I may be completely incorrect in this supposition. Gabriel. - Original Message From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thu, 16 December, 2010 8:43:10 AMhe deputations arrived? Subject: Re: [Goanet] Respect our right to Identity Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote: Therefore, a Goan can never be a Gorovernor or an IGP of Goa. Prabhakar Sinari? jc
[Goanet] Respect our right to Identity
Oscar Lobo: And by the way, I was asked Why do we have a Sikh as the Governor of Goa? Don't we have reputable Goans left in Goa for this position? How can one respect our identity with a Governor from other state? Response from Marshall: As per the Constitution or maybe practice (I need to check and confirm) persons from the same state cannot be appointed as Governors. However, a few days ago Fredertick posted a news item that the head of the State Human Rights Commission was a retired justice from Bihar.This I am not able to fathom why a person from Bihar needed to be appointed in Goa. Comment from Vasant: There is no Constitutional Bar on any person being appointed as Governor of any state-General Sunith Francis Rodrigues was appointed Governor of Punjab in 2004-Sikhs could ask why a Sikh was not appointed to maintain the Sikh Identity? Justice Ferdino Inacio Rebello has been appointed Chief Justice of the Allahabad High Court earlier this year.Why not someone from UP? http://allahabadhighcourt.in/service/judgeDetail.jsp?id=156
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Why not someone from UP? Asks Vasant Baliga. Answer: Because other Indians in today's civil service are known to be mostly corrupt, Goans in the service have as much an impeccable reputation as Goan politicians are corrupt. Because Goa has so far, except for a rare occasion (when a Lt Gov was appointed), had inept, corrupt or just plain stupid Governors, typically like the one in office now. See-no-evil, hear-no-evil types. The State deserves a good one now. Because Ribeiro has a reputation for standing up to politicians and for cleaning whichever administration he had control over. If there is a non-Goan as capable as Ribeiro, sure bring him as Governor. Name some candidates if you can. Don't count on Generals, Admirals and Air Marshals - they have no civilian experience of governing. Because the first thing Ribeiro will do is to goad the CBI in Goa, the Anti-Corruption forces, the Collectors and whoever else can bring the corrupt to book. That will boost the morale and be a fine example to other honest administrators to do their job. Because the constitution provides for dissolution of the Govt and central rule when matters come to the stage Goa is now. Only a strong Governor can be up to that. The downside is when the period is over, Goa will go back to the old ways unless some safeguards are put into place. Roland. 416-453-3371 -Original Message- From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Vasant Baliga Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:18 AM To: Goanet Subject: [Goanet] Respect our right to Identity Comment from Vasant: There is no Constitutional Bar on any person being appointed as Governor of any state-General Sunith Francis Rodrigues was appointed Governor of Punjab in 2004-Sikhs could ask why a Sikh was not appointed to maintain the Sikh Identity? Justice Ferdino Inacio Rebello has been appointed Chief Justice of the Allahabad High Court earlier this year.Why not someone from UP? http://allahabadhighcourt.in/service/judgeDetail.jsp?id=156
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[1] Oscar Lobo: I was asked Why do we have a Sikh as the Governor of Goa? Don't we have reputable Goans left in Goa for this position? (Response from Marshall): As per the Constitution or maybe practice persons from the same state CANNOT be appointed as Governors. However, a few days ago Frederick posted a news item that the head of the State Human Rights Commission was a retired justice from Bihar.This I am not able to fathom why a person from Bihar needed to be appointed in Goa. [2] Vasant Baliga: There is no Constitutional Bar on any person being appointed as Governor of any state. == jc COMMENT: While Oscar is making a good point about the Bihar's HRC head, I suggest that there is a distinct difference between an orange and a koala bear. Vasant Baliga is correct about the absence of any Constitutional bar to the appointment of in-State Governors. By convention, the Governor is appointed from another State, ostensibly /or ideally, to avoid any local political entanglement and to promote a detached objectivity to the Governor's actions. (Pylee's Constitutional Government of India 1984). What effectively happens is that Governorships are given to politicians aligned to the party in power at the centre for one of three reasons (a) to get the politicians out of his (home) State's political competition (b) as a paid-luxury holiday for long service (if one can use that term wrt politicians); (c) difficult State and no one wishes to go there. No prizes for correct answer as to which category Punjab belonged to during the troubles, and which category Goa continues to belong to. On the topic of objectivity and politicians, I am out of words! jc
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Baliga said: Justice Ferdino Inacio Rebello has been appointed Chief Justice of the Allahabad High Court earlier this year.Why not someone from UP? somment: Exactly! We would very much like Justice Rebello as Chief Justice of Bombay High Court. All the IAS officers in Goa also need to be packed off to their States as early as possible. Read GT today to understand the nuisance these guys are capable of. -Soter
[Goanet] Respect our right to Identity
Oscar Lobo: And by the way, I was asked Why do we have a Sikh as the Governor of Goa? Don't we have reputable Goans left in Goa for this position? How can one respect our identity with a Governor from other state? Response: As per the Constitution or maybe practice (I need to check and confirm) persons from the same state cannot be appointed as Governors. However, a few days ago Fredertick posted a news item that the head of the State Human Rights Commission was a retired justice from Bihar.This I am not able to fathom why a person from Bihar needed to be appointed in Goa. Regards, Marshall
[Goanet] Respect our right to identity
Bernice Pereira wrote bernicepere...@yahoo.comTo: goa...@goanet.orgsubject: Re: [Goanet] FW: Respect our Right to IdentityHi Freddy,Glad you are back on Goanet.I really hope we live to see this new era. Goans in Goa and all over the world are grumbling and when you approach them for support, the response is Oh so-and- so is also trying but you know it's a waste of time. I don't think so. I feel Never say die.I'm in Dubai just now for a short stay, and the other day I watched that super movie Capitalism - a love story. Nothing to do with love, but it shows exactly what happened in USA during the Bush administation. This is exactly what is happening in Goa - the money is only going into the hands of the powers-that-be.at the cost of the environment. We have to somehow wake people out of their lethargy and bring about a change. Everybody may not read Goanet. We might be a small group of committed people, but each of us must pass the message to every Goan we know, in ou r own friends circle, no matter which part of the world he belongs to and bring about an awareness of what is happening in our beloved state. Many people dont have an idea of the magnitude of the problem We have to have signature campaigns against every new project created in the name of development which will harm the ecology and environment. Very important also, we have to kick these bhaile out and make life difficult for them. We have to also influence the locals into understanding that these bhailes will take away their jobs and the jobs of their children. We have to do this just now - there's no time to lose. The future is very bleak for us. You take a Goan out of Goa and see how hard he/she works. I wish they would work just as hard in our own state.BerniceComments : Camilo FeranandesBernice is spot in her above post. It is wrong to say it is a waste of time. Better late than never and better to light a small candle than curse the darkness. Yes no matter whe re we live or work, end of the day we are Goans and are passionate about our beloved Goa and should do whatever we can no matter how small to save Goa. Most people are aware of the magnitude of the problems facing Goa but unfortunately barring some dedicated, sincere Goans most feel the problem will just disappear on its own and take the attitude it is not in my backyard so why bother. They are indifferent to the serious problems facing Goa. It is this attitude that gives the advantage to corrupt politicians and builders. We should unitedly come together and give support to some dedicated, passionate and sincere leaders (who are just a handful) who are doing their bit in a very fierce and difficult environment what with muscle power and money. We should stand by them and give full support and the first is by actively participating whenever any meeting/protest is held. Most of the politicians even the Catholic local politicians who were elected with high hopes and expectations are only interested in their own betterment. They know they dont need the local Goans as they can count on the migrant votes. Then again most Goans due to economic reasons or for bettering their prospects are working abroad or settled abroad. They go down to Goa only on holidays and have no voting rights. Some Goans staying in Goa feel that Goans who are abroad have no concern about Goa which is abolutely false. All sincere lovers of Goa wherever they are based should collectively and unitedly come together to protest and highlight the problems facing Goa and give full support to dedicated leaders who are leading the protests. If there are any protests in any place in Goa, apart from many coming from far away places to give support the locals residing there first of all should come in full strength and not sit comfortably in their homes thinking others will do it. It is the also the foolish attitude of many Goans who will work and do any and all jobs abroad but would be reluctant to have the same dedication to do jobs in their own homes. They feel it is below their dignity and would employ outsiders i.e. bailies to do the job. Can we then blame these bailies then to come and take up the jobs here?Contrast this to life abroad. Here everyone tries to do his/own job in the best way possible i.e. doing most jobs DIY (do it yourself) themselves and only as a last resort when they are not in a possible to do certain difficult/skilled jobs would a tradesman be called. Even now we local Goans are getting outnumbered by outsiders and very soon we will be become strangers or outsiders in our own Goa. Another important lesson Goans must realize as Freddy mentioned in his post is that we should avoid selling our ancestral property to others particularly outsiders. I know this is easier said done then, what with family property fights and the exorbitant prices that are being offered but as far as possible no matter
[Goanet] Respect our Right to Identity
In support of: Message: 5 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 22:04:48 +0530 (IST) From: Bernice Pereira bernicepere...@yahoo.com To: soter so...@bsnl.in, Goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Fw: RE: Goanet Digest, Vol 5,Issue 1215 - Respect our Right to Identity Hi Bernice, I can understand your dilemma, these money bags think, just because they have the money, they can buy everything and everyone. I salute you for your brave stand, even though you are a lady, I wish we had more men and women like you. It's sad indeed that we Goans have not yet woken up to the reality. You have asked a very valid question, why is Goa being turned into a concrete jungle without the required infrastructure ? All over Goa it's the same state of affairs and activists and people are asking the same question, but get no answers. You find Kashmiris, Rajasthanis and ofcourse the rich Gujjus all over Goa, doing what they do best trying to buy everything and everyone with their money power and we Goans loose our bearing and lap-up what's thrown at us. It's us Goans who have been selling our ancestral lands, not the one's we bought with our hard earned money but what was given to us as a legacy by our ancestors, words once spoken cannot be retrieved, what's said is said, so is the land that is sold, once sold it's gone. The destruction of our rich fields, ecology and our environment has been termed as development, but when asked development for whom ? They just seem to have amnesia. During the Carmona mega housing agitation, Orlando was pushed against the wall, but fought and exposed, the self proclaimed man of the masses, Churchill Alemao, who went on to say that the activists and NGO's were squealing like pigs, when they objected to the mega project, he further went on to call it a developmental project where Goans could work as watchmen, while he and his entire family became billionaires at the cost of Goa and Goans. The days when we could take a long relaxing walks on beaches without being hassled or without our path being blocked, by temporary or permanent structures, or even the beach beds or shacks, have long been gone. Today you see all filth, beggars, conmen, conwomen, junkies, thieves, peddlers and even rapists and murders laying siege to our once safe and beautiful beaches. Commercialism, corruption, unhealthy and unplanned tourism has been the cause of our misfortune. There is yet a new breed of Goans that have popped up of late in different medias, professing the very old adage if you can't beat them join them and are sing paeans of the corrupt politicians on different medias, thinking that they could change the carnivorous Hyenas into veggies and I am sure it will not be long before these guys get hooked to the carnivorous diet of the Hyenas themselves, if they have already not got the taste of it. Our corrupt politicians will not change unless we stop them by force, they will never listen to reason or goodwill, that good old dogma has been cast into the bin. It's only the public outrage that can bring about a change and force the Hyenas into a veggie diet. I am happy that there are a lot more people and youngsters who want a change and are getting involved, the trail has been picked up and it won't be long before the pose catches up with renegades, that, will be the day of reckoning, the dawn of a new era. Hope we can be proud of our beloved Goa once again in this life time. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
[Goanet] RESPECT OUR RIGHT TO IDENTITY
** * *Goans are increasingly opposing Land Sales to Non-Goans. I request Non-Goans to appreciate our basis. Yes, Goans can buy land in many Indian states/Western countries. But let's look at this in a bigger perspective; *this time globally*; I'll take the UK example, just to drive my point. I read an impressive column recently in the UAE media by a UK government minister. It was ref. the new UK immigration laws; highlight was while the UK has to be fair to other countries, at the same time it needed them, particularly India in the letter, to respect each nations right to protect its genuine interests. We appreciate why the UK/Western Countries i.e. MainGlobalisation/Democratic Free Worlddrivers enact controls against non-locals. In UK, non-locals can buy land, but immigration controls ensure that the UK is not open to all. Those questioning my views from UAE, please note that although locals here are in minority there are safeguards e.g. No Expatriate Political Rights, No Citizenship, Restrictive Real Estate Buying laws etc. to ensure that the UAE remains with its people. Each community has limits to which non-locals can buy land/emigrate (with political rights). Goa has way crossed this limit; beyond which we have to put safeguards; the current rate will make Goans irrelevant no community can accept the same for themselves. I'd argue today that Goans are more tolerant than most other communities. The REAL ISSUE is that GOA HAS NO CONTROLS ON REAL ESTATE PURCHASES/IMMIGRATION (mostly non local Indians). For those quoting the constitution (A) Goa had no influence to framing of the constitution i.e. India acquisition of Goa much later in 1961 (B) Some states have special provisions; Goa is also an exception; just because we * failed* to get safeguards in 1961, does not right the wrong (C) The Constitution is not cast in stone and for just basis, should be modified to protect the people; from which a democratic constitution should have been driven; not vice-versa!! I accept criticism that Goans are to be blamed significantly for the issue because of our actions/in-actions; but also issues of Land Sales to Non-Goans Uncontrolled Migration are significant and need to be addressed urgently. Goans should support your right to your identity/interests, likewise please respect our right to the same. *Arwin Mesquita, Abu Dhabi.* -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
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No word limit. Jason --- Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Goanet - Bosco D'Mello wrote: RESPONSE: Rajan, your opinion notwithstanding, some queries: #1) Do the Goan people decide who is the Convenor of the GBA? Since the Convenor himself never tires of telling us (Goan people) you are the GBA, one would presume that the we get to decide who is the Convenor. In reality, the Convenor was installed. I had no issue with it until I later discovered what a rotten deal Goans had gotten into. #2) Do the members of the GBA executive support Dr Rebello? I don't know. All I know is many key GBA members express serious reservations after seeing through Dr Rebello's bogus claims about being an apolitical man while playing footsie with the Digambar Kamat govt, after his silly pronouncements about there being no non-Goans etc. Most will be loathe to say it aloud - one Core Group member has already gone public here on Goanet. #3) What is it that we want from Dr Rebello? I can't speak for we. What I would like is for him to step down and allow some genuinely dedicated worker to take over. Alternatively, he can stay as Convenor and take a mouna vrata to minimize damage. #4) The GBA were formed in the aftermath of the RP2011 being bulldozed on Goans. Did Dr Rebello and the GBA arrest the implementation of the RP2011? The GBA marshaled the Goan people to arrest RP2011. For that the GBA deserves lusty applause from everyone. Dr Rebello was only the public face of the campaign who got all the credit while the nameless, faceless foot soldiers busted their behinds doing all the spadework. You may say that a campaign needs an identifiable name and face. True, but that name and face must have done something to earn that honour. To date, Dr Rebello's 'work' has included only such back-breaking tasks as attending meetings, signing press releases, going on TV, and making speeches. #5) Why are we expecting Dr Rebello and the GBA to fight every environmental violation? In fact, we would have been thrilled if he had actually fought ANY ONE battle, let alone the war. Over a dozen other organizations support GBA. And your point is? Jason Monserrate wrote: Very simply, what is the solution to the ghati (non-Goan/anti-Goan) problem? How many marks question is this? Is there a word limit for the answer? Warm regards, r You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
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On Sun Mar 30 06:14:38 PDT 2008, Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: Dr. Oscar Rebello should be asked to step down as Convener of GBA since in my emphatic opinion he no longer represents the wishes and aspirations of the Goan people. Au contraire, his utterances are guaranteed to subvert them. RESPONSE: Rajan, your opinion notwithstanding, some queries: #1) Do the Goan people decide who is the Convenor of the GBA? #2) Do the members of the GBA executive support Dr Rebello? #3) What is it that we want from Dr Rebello? #4) The GBA were formed in the aftermath of the RP2011 being bulldozed on Goans. Did Dr Rebello and the GBA arrest the implementation of the RP2011? #5) Why are we expecting Dr Rebello and the GBA to fight every environmental violation? I find it impossible for Dr Rebello to deliver on all of Goa's needs. He has a personal/professional life too besides social activism. Over a dozen other organizations support GBA. On Fri Mar 28 22:02:45 PDT 2008 , Rajan P. Parrikar wrote: Finally - regardless of the political cast at the helm, I would urge the citizens to remain actively involved. This must be a novel idea to the Comrade, citizen participation and all. RESPONSE: I share this point of view. This has been proven to be a workable solution. Gerson DaCunha of AGNI fame has talked on this issue to Goans and I quote verbatim: The strategy is not to get at the land sharks, corruption, etc-that's hopefully the outcome of the strategy. The strategy itself is the creation of citizen numbers by networking existing bodies and individuals so that they can jointly raise a citizen voice that no politics or governance can ignore. Are we just frustrated that Goans cannot come together and instead create more GBAs to dilute and undermine the original GBA? Do we have more chiefs than ..?? Now mind you...Gerson DaCunha is a friend of Dr Rebello. - Bosco References: http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=952 http://www.agnimumbai.org http://savegoa.com/gba/about_us/
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To all, Very simply, what is the solution to the ghati (non-Goan/anti-Goan) problem? Jason --- Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Goanet - Arwin Mesquita wrote: Goans should support your right to your identity/interests, likewise please respect our right to the same. Arwin, I hear you, and empathize with your sentiments. Right now, the first order of business is to save Goa from the Save Goa movements. The other day we had Dr. Oscar Rebello, Convener of GBA, claim on national TV that there is no such thing as a Goan and non-Goan. There is a thriving cottage industry of these snakes-in-the-grass activists here, these self-aggrandizing, self-promoting fellows who first ride on the aspirations of the common Goan folk and then use the popular campaigns to further their own personal and political agendas. Dr. Oscar Rebello should be asked to step down as Convener of GBA since in my emphatic opinion he no longer represents the wishes and aspirations of the Goan people. Au contraire, his utterances are guaranteed to subvert them. Regards, r You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
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To Goanet - Bosco D'Mello wrote: RESPONSE: Rajan, your opinion notwithstanding, some queries: #1) Do the Goan people decide who is the Convenor of the GBA? Since the Convenor himself never tires of telling us (Goan people) you are the GBA, one would presume that the we get to decide who is the Convenor. In reality, the Convenor was installed. I had no issue with it until I later discovered what a rotten deal Goans had gotten into. #2) Do the members of the GBA executive support Dr Rebello? I don't know. All I know is many key GBA members express serious reservations after seeing through Dr Rebello's bogus claims about being an apolitical man while playing footsie with the Digambar Kamat govt, after his silly pronouncements about there being no non-Goans etc. Most will be loathe to say it aloud - one Core Group member has already gone public here on Goanet. #3) What is it that we want from Dr Rebello? I can't speak for we. What I would like is for him to step down and allow some genuinely dedicated worker to take over. Alternatively, he can stay as Convenor and take a mouna vrata to minimize damage. #4) The GBA were formed in the aftermath of the RP2011 being bulldozed on Goans. Did Dr Rebello and the GBA arrest the implementation of the RP2011? The GBA marshaled the Goan people to arrest RP2011. For that the GBA deserves lusty applause from everyone. Dr Rebello was only the public face of the campaign who got all the credit while the nameless, faceless foot soldiers busted their behinds doing all the spadework. You may say that a campaign needs an identifiable name and face. True, but that name and face must have done something to earn that honour. To date, Dr Rebello's 'work' has included only such back-breaking tasks as attending meetings, signing press releases, going on TV, and making speeches. #5) Why are we expecting Dr Rebello and the GBA to fight every environmental violation? In fact, we would have been thrilled if he had actually fought ANY ONE battle, let alone the war. Over a dozen other organizations support GBA. And your point is? Jason Monserrate wrote: Very simply, what is the solution to the ghati (non-Goan/anti-Goan) problem? How many marks question is this? Is there a word limit for the answer? Warm regards, r
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To Goanet - Bosco, Note that while GBA deserves credit for getting the RP2011 scrapped, that did not mean it brought the violations, conversions and the sellout of Goan land to a halt. As I have shown in hundreds of photographs over the past one year, the concretization of Goa continues unimpeded and unabated. The lesson here is that one ought not to rush into victory parades and celebrations prematurely. Regards, r
[Goanet] Respect Our Right to Identity. (Letters to Goan Local Papers, Overseas Forums MLA's)
*Subject: Respect Our Right to Identity.* * * Goans are increasingly opposing Land Sales to Non-Goans. I request Non-Goans to appreciate our basis. Yes, Goans can buy land in many Indian states/Western countries. But let's look at this in a bigger perspective; *this time globally*; I'll take the UK example, just to drive my point. I read an impressive column recently in the UAE media by a UK government minister. It was ref. the new UK immigration laws; highlight was while the UK has to be fair to other countries, at the same time it needed them, particularly India in the letter, to respect each nations right to protect its genuine interests. We appreciate why the UK/Western Countries i.e. MainGlobalisation/Democratic Free World drivers enact controls against non-locals. In UK, non-locals can buy land, but immigration controls ensure that the UK is not open to all. Those questioning my views from UAE, please note that although locals here are in minority there are safeguards e.g. No Expatriate Political Rights, No Citizenship, Restrictive Real Estate Buying laws etc. to ensure that the UAE remains with its people. Each community has limits to which non-locals can buy land/emigrate (with political rights). Goa has way crossed this limit; beyond which we have to put safeguards; the current rate will make Goans irrelevant no community can accept the same for themselves. I'd argue today that Goans are more tolerant than most other communities. The REAL ISSUE is that GOA HAS NO CONTROLS ON REAL ESTATE PURCHASES/IMMIGRATION (mostly non local Indians). For those quoting the constitution (A) Goa had no influence to framing of the constitution i.e. India acquisition of Goa much later in 1961 (B) Some states have special provisions; Goa is also an exception; just because we * failed* to get safeguards in 1961, does not right the wrong (C) The Constitution is not cast in stone and for just basis, should be modified to protect the people; from which a democratic constitution should have been driven; not vice-versa!! I accept criticism that Goans are to be blamed significantly for the issue because of our actions/in-actions; but also issues of Land Sales to Non-Goans Uncontrolled Migration are significant and need to be addressed urgently. Goans should support your right to your identity/interests, likewise please respect our right to the same. *Arwin Mesquita, Abu Dhabi.*
