Re: [Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....
I relate to your point. My concern is with detail; what is termed, pedantic. On the one hand, desiring to see how things/ notions/ and sometimes, what pass off as idea, are fleshed out; elaborated upon; along with tangential meanings, pointed out or discovered. In any case we got to hear of your example: The pun (not sarcasm) is 'the lowest form of humor. Thank you. In fact that too was true in India. And there are others. Things change with time. Often notions are labelled and get disseminated, simply on account of some ones (more often than not a poet or writer, at a given point in their trajectory) distaste of a figure of speech or such. venantius j pinto Message: 8 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:42:55 -0300 From: DAN DRISCOLL driscoll@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit Interesting, if perhaps somewhat pedantic exchange; but my college informants from long ago had it as The pun (not sarcasm) is 'the lowest form of humor. Honorable Keith Vas seems to be doing a good job of holding the mirror up to the Olympics Organizers. On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome. Often, people do not understand sarcasm (not suggesting you); and others take what is not intended as such to mean so. Therein, perhaps exists the notion, along with with who employs it: that sarcasm, is the lowest form of wit. The following is an educative piece, on how sarcasm works (how it is employed). How Sarcasm Works by Shanna Freeman http://people.howstuffworks.com/sarcasm1.htm Understanding and Learning Sarcasm Most of the time, when you say something sarcastic, the person that you're speaking to understands your intention. But how? Since they can't rely on the words for the message, listeners pick up on other cues. When we say something sarcastic, we often use a very specific tone of voice. Important elements of spoken sarcasm include intonation, or how you vary the pitch of your voice, and stress, or how you emphasize certain words. When English speakers express sarcasm with the word Thanks!, they often use a nasal tone. Some researchers say that this nasal tone shows a connection between sarcasm and extreme disgust, to the point where the speaker is expelling something nauseating and he or she wants to remove it not only from the mouth but also from the nose [source: Haiman]. Sarcasts of all languages use what Haiman calls inverse pitch obtrusion. This occurs when the speaker pitches a stressed syllable lower than the other words in the sentence. Take our weather example from the last section: Sincere: Pitch: High Great weather, huh? Sarcastic: Pitch: Low Great weather, huh? The pitch of the word great in this sentence changes depending on whether you're being sincere or sarcastic. A sarcast might also stress the word great heavily, to show that it's anything but great. CONTINUED AT, http://people.howstuffworks.com/sarcasm1.htm venantius j pinto Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:22:01 +0100 From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit On 19 July 2012 21:52, Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com wrote: A sarcastic benison** from MP Keith Vaz.: Keith Vaz of the Labour Party, the longest-serving Asian MP in Britain, and chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, was even more scathing. When Buckles told the committee that he was ?disappointed?, Vaz replied that?s what he usually felt when his football team didn?t win. ?Isn?t there a better word?? asked Vaz sarcastically. http://tehelka.com/story_main53.asp?filename=hub280712London.asp **bessao (blessing) +++ vjp RESPONSE: The Home Affairs Select Committee, waded into the hapless man. Vaseline Vaz is so squeaky clean that he returned thousands of pounds having bought items such as cushions from John Lewis How's that for sarcasm? -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. -- End of Goanet Digest, Vol 7, Issue 636 **
Re: [Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....
Interesting, if perhaps somewhat pedantic exchange; but my college informants from long ago had it as The pun (not sarcasm) is 'the lowest form of humor. Honorable Keith Vas seems to be doing a good job of holding the mirror up to the Olympics Organizers. On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome. Often, people do not understand sarcasm (not suggesting you); and others take what is not intended as such to mean so. Therein, perhaps exists the notion, along with with who employs it: that sarcasm, is the lowest form of wit. The following is an educative piece, on how sarcasm works (how it is employed). How Sarcasm Works by Shanna Freeman http://people.howstuffworks.com/sarcasm1.htm Understanding and Learning Sarcasm Most of the time, when you say something sarcastic, the person that you're speaking to understands your intention. But how? Since they can't rely on the words for the message, listeners pick up on other cues. When we say something sarcastic, we often use a very specific tone of voice. Important elements of spoken sarcasm include intonation, or how you vary the pitch of your voice, and stress, or how you emphasize certain words. When English speakers express sarcasm with the word Thanks!, they often use a nasal tone. Some researchers say that this nasal tone shows a connection between sarcasm and extreme disgust, to the point where the speaker is expelling something nauseating and he or she wants to remove it not only from the mouth but also from the nose [source: Haiman]. Sarcasts of all languages use what Haiman calls inverse pitch obtrusion. This occurs when the speaker pitches a stressed syllable lower than the other words in the sentence. Take our weather example from the last section: Sincere: Pitch: High Great weather, huh? Sarcastic: Pitch: Low Great weather, huh? The pitch of the word great in this sentence changes depending on whether you're being sincere or sarcastic. A sarcast might also stress the word great heavily, to show that it's anything but great. CONTINUED AT, http://people.howstuffworks.com/sarcasm1.htm venantius j pinto Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:22:01 +0100 From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit On 19 July 2012 21:52, Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com wrote: A sarcastic benison** from MP Keith Vaz.: Keith Vaz of the Labour Party, the longest-serving Asian MP in Britain, and chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, was even more scathing. When Buckles told the committee that he was ?disappointed?, Vaz replied that?s what he usually felt when his football team didn?t win. ?Isn?t there a better word?? asked Vaz sarcastically. http://tehelka.com/story_main53.asp?filename=hub280712London.asp **bessao (blessing) +++ vjp RESPONSE: The Home Affairs Select Committee, waded into the hapless man. Vaseline Vaz is so squeaky clean that he returned thousands of pounds having bought items such as cushions from John Lewis How's that for sarcasm? -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. --
Re: [Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....
On 20 July 2012 23:42, DAN DRISCOLL driscoll@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, if perhaps somewhat pedantic exchange; but my college informants from long ago had it as The pun (not sarcasm) is 'the lowest form of humor. Honorable Keith Vas seems to be doing a good job of holding the mirror up to the Olympics Organizers. RESPONSE: Here is an excerpt:- There is a substantial population of people of Goan origin living in the UK many of whom have espoused causes of the environment back home. The expat community is nominally represented by Keith Vaz a British MP of Goan origin. http://dailypioneer.com/nation/81728-goa-illegal-mines-debate-reaches-uk.html Incidentally many decisions undertaken were during the Labour Government - Mr.Vaz's lot. Well it's now out in the open, who nominally represents us expat Goans in the U.K.! -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....
On 19 July 2012 21:52, Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com wrote: A sarcastic benison** from MP Keith Vaz.: Keith Vaz of the Labour Party, the longest-serving Asian MP in Britain, and chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, was even more scathing. When Buckles told the committee that he was “disappointed”, Vaz replied that’s what he usually felt when his football team didn’t win. “Isn’t there a better word?” asked Vaz sarcastically. http://tehelka.com/story_main53.asp?filename=hub280712London.asp **bessao (blessing) +++ vjp RESPONSE: The Home Affairs Select Committee, waded into the hapless man. Vaseline Vaz is so squeaky clean that he returned thousands of pounds having bought items such as cushions from John Lewis How's that for sarcasm? -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....
Awesome. Often, people do not understand sarcasm (not suggesting you); and others take what is not intended as such to mean so. Therein, perhaps exists the notion, along with with who employs it: that sarcasm, is the lowest form of wit. The following is an educative piece, on how sarcasm works (how it is employed). How Sarcasm Works by Shanna Freeman http://people.howstuffworks.com/sarcasm1.htm Understanding and Learning Sarcasm Most of the time, when you say something sarcastic, the person that you're speaking to understands your intention. But how? Since they can't rely on the words for the message, listeners pick up on other cues. When we say something sarcastic, we often use a very specific tone of voice. Important elements of spoken sarcasm include intonation, or how you vary the pitch of your voice, and stress, or how you emphasize certain words. When English speakers express sarcasm with the word Thanks!, they often use a nasal tone. Some researchers say that this nasal tone shows a connection between sarcasm and extreme disgust, to the point where the speaker is expelling something nauseating and he or she wants to remove it not only from the mouth but also from the nose [source: Haiman]. Sarcasts of all languages use what Haiman calls inverse pitch obtrusion. This occurs when the speaker pitches a stressed syllable lower than the other words in the sentence. Take our weather example from the last section: Sincere: Pitch: High Great weather, huh? Sarcastic: Pitch: Low Great weather, huh? The pitch of the word great in this sentence changes depending on whether you're being sincere or sarcastic. A sarcast might also stress the word great heavily, to show that it's anything but great. CONTINUED AT, http://people.howstuffworks.com/sarcasm1.htm venantius j pinto Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:22:01 +0100 From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit On 19 July 2012 21:52, Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com wrote: A sarcastic benison** from MP Keith Vaz.: Keith Vaz of the Labour Party, the longest-serving Asian MP in Britain, and chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, was even more scathing. When Buckles told the committee that he was ?disappointed?, Vaz replied that?s what he usually felt when his football team didn?t win. ?Isn?t there a better word?? asked Vaz sarcastically. http://tehelka.com/story_main53.asp?filename=hub280712London.asp **bessao (blessing) +++ vjp RESPONSE: The Home Affairs Select Committee, waded into the hapless man. Vaseline Vaz is so squeaky clean that he returned thousands of pounds having bought items such as cushions from John Lewis How's that for sarcasm? -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes. --
[Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....
...quote for today. It is tawdry to try and impress at another's expense. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....
A sarcastic benison** from MP Keith Vaz.: Keith Vaz of the Labour Party, the longest-serving Asian MP in Britain, and chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, was even more scathing. When Buckles told the committee that he was “disappointed”, Vaz replied that’s what he usually felt when his football team didn’t win. “Isn’t there a better word?” asked Vaz sarcastically. http://tehelka.com/story_main53.asp?filename=hub280712London.asp **bessao (blessing) +++ vjp
