[Goanet] Sindhis, Goa?
Roland Francis: My post was based on two anecdotal sources Response: All right. I was keen on reading up on the Sindhi connection with Goa after reading your post as this part was unknown to me.So far as Sindhis moving to Canary Island or other places, I had among my schoolmates many sindhis who had businesses in Philippines, Spain, Malta, Carribean, Gibraltar etc. In fact there were two buildings behind our place which was inhabitated entirely by sindhis. But only the aged women folk lived here. All the men and youngsters were overseas. I have come across Gujarati businessmen in Goa and over the past 20-25 years a number of marwaris too. Regards, Marshall
Re: [Goanet] Sindhis, Goa?
My post was based on two anecdotal sources: 1. My school friend of Casa International whom I mentioned in the article. 2. The acquaintances I made when learning Spanish (unrelated to college courses) from a Spanish priest in St Xavier’s College in Bombay. A few student age Sindhis from the Goa community were sent by their parents to pick up the language. They formed part of the class of about 10. I did not use any internet resources for my Goanet post. However the following summary of a study of the Barcelona Centre for International Affairs tracing the genesis of the Sindhi business community in the Canary Islands will make interesting reading for you. The case of the Sindhi traders in the Canary Islands: Transnational relations and economic activity Publication date: 12/2010 Author: Ana María López Sala y Valeriano Esteban Sánchez Download This article describes and analyses the presence and trading activities of the Sindhi community in the Canary Islands. This group is one of the oldest Asian diasporas in Spain, and is characterised by its hectic trading activity and, particularly, by the fact that it maintains a network of transnational contacts that shows that the community is established in over 100 countries. The starting point of the analysis is the historical, geographic and cultural context that favoured the exodus and arrival of this community to these islands. As other authors have mentioned in studies on transnationalism, and as these authors highlight very clearly with the group examined in this article, relations with members of the same community residing in other countries become forms of capital that provide information and communication on business opportunities and strategies in local enclaves, such as the loaning of capital and training opportunities in commercial activities and specific newly-created businesses that are adapted to certain geographic areas. The Sindhis are a community that, while it has remained faithful to its traditions and is relatively secretive, since the 1950s and with the rise of tourism, it has diversified in its areas of business and its establishment in the territory. Key words: Canary Islands, Sindhis, trade, Pakistan, diaspora, ethnic entrepreneurs, transnational networks, gender The full text articles of this issue are available only in Spanish language Roland. > On Aug 26, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Marshall Mendonza wrote: > > Roland Francis: > This batch of Sindhis decided to go to Goa which was European ruled > Response: > That was a very informative post. Could you kindly provide the source or > weblinks so that we can read more? Thank you. > Regards, > Marshall
[Goanet] Sindhis, Goa?
Roland Francis: This batch of Sindhis decided to go to Goa which was European ruled and where they felt they had a better future. It took only a short time to realize their limited opportunities there and the competition they faced from the existing small Ismaili business community who were looked on kindly by the Portuguese administration. Not that they were afraid of competition - their success in Bombay and Delhi against odds proved that, but they desired greener pastures and they saw that the Portuguese were colonial, not business minded like them. Response: That was a very informative post. Could you kindly provide the source or weblinks so that we can read more? Thank you. Regards, Marshall
Re: [Goanet] Sindhis, Goa?
To place in context, Sindhis refer to it as “Sindh-Hyderabad”, meaning Hyderabad in Sindh, Pakistan as distinct from Nawabi Hyderabad in AP, now allocated to the new Telengana State. When Sindhis were displaced from Sindh-Hyderabad at Partition, most of them went to Delhi and Bombay as the Indian Govt gave them generous benefits like plots and homes on the basis that they were DPs (Displaced Persons) now generally called Refugees. Being traders, in no time at all they gave a run for their money to the already-entrenched Gujaratis and Parsis. Some Sindhis in Pakistan who had foreseen the consequences of the coming Partition had transferred their assets elsewhere and were not penniless like many of their community fleeing to Bombay and Delhi. This batch of Sindhis decided to go to Goa which was European ruled and where they felt they had a better future. It took only a short time to realize their limited opportunities there and the competition they faced from the existing small Ismaili business community who were looked on kindly by the Portuguese administration. Not that they were afraid of competition - their success in Bombay and Delhi against odds proved that, but they desired greener pastures and they saw that the Portuguese were colonial, not business minded like them. Their sights settled on the Canary Islands which were still duty-free ports while the rest of Spain was heavily taxed. They saw a massive business opportunity there as also in Malta to a lesser extent. Soon the bulk of the Sindhis who had temporarily ‘camped’ in Goa decided that the Canary Islands was the Chosen Land. Having picked up a little Portuguese in Goa, they used it to their advantage in the Spanish-speaking Islands. A few of them even spread to Gibraltar which was British controlled. Like most traders, the Sindhis had a flair for languages. Unlike the Gujaratis, they had style and panache too, using their wealth to exude success. They had made the right decision. In those days the Canary Island Sindhis were the richest in their diaspora. A few Sindhis remained in Goa. Casa International in Panjim belonged to one such. They sent their children to Bombay for education and expected them to thrive there like the rest of the now extremely rich Bombay section. In fact one of their scions was my classmate in St Xavier’s School in Dhobitalao. He was mild mannered and genteel, unlike his hard-nosed counterparts in Bombay. Roland. > On Aug 22, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Frederick Noronha > wrote: > > Wikipedia says the following: "Refugee Sindhi Hindus from Hyderabad > migrated to Bangalore through Mumbai and Goa. A community housing > society was created in Cox Town, with a temple, Sindhi Association and > a Sindhi Social Hall, a community hub for celebrations, marriages and > festivals such as Holi and Guru Nanak Jayanti. The immigration of the > community resulted in the introduction of Sindhi culture and cuisine > to the city." > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindhis_in_India > > This is in the context of migration from Sindh (in today's Pakistan) > after the Independence of India. > > Would anyone know what is the Goa connection in the story above? > > FN > -- > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > _/ > _/ FN* फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا +91-9822122436 > _/ RADIO GOANA: https://archive.org/details/@fredericknoronha > _/ > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > > > > > > - "Every time you provide an option, you're asking the user to make a > decision. That means they will have to think about something and > decide about it. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but, in general, > you should always try to minimize the number of decisions that people > have to make." - Joel Spolsky, Author of Joel on Software > > undefined > Sender notified by > Mailtrack 22/08/18, 22:53:19 > ×REMOVE
[Goanet] Sindhis, Goa?
Wikipedia says the following: "Refugee Sindhi Hindus from Hyderabad migrated to Bangalore through Mumbai and Goa. A community housing society was created in Cox Town, with a temple, Sindhi Association and a Sindhi Social Hall, a community hub for celebrations, marriages and festivals such as Holi and Guru Nanak Jayanti. The immigration of the community resulted in the introduction of Sindhi culture and cuisine to the city." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindhis_in_India This is in the context of migration from Sindh (in today's Pakistan) after the Independence of India. Would anyone know what is the Goa connection in the story above? FN -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ FN* फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या * فريدريك نورونيا +91-9822122436 _/ RADIO GOANA: https://archive.org/details/@fredericknoronha _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ - "Every time you provide an option, you're asking the user to make a decision. That means they will have to think about something and decide about it. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but, in general, you should always try to minimize the number of decisions that people have to make." - Joel Spolsky, Author of Joel on Software undefined Sender notified by Mailtrack 22/08/18, 22:53:19 ×REMOVE