Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza: The silence of GBA is frightening
To Goanet - Vidyadhar Gadgil wrote: >Unlike some people we know, who are acolytes and worshippers at >the shrine of a particular politician and party? Oooh, its the carpetbagging Comrade again. After swearing that he wouldn't respond to me, he finds it impossible to resist. We knew we could always count on him. Life would be bereft of fun if there were no Comrades to rubbish. >In that context, FN's post was very relevant. You mean Mandaar Waghmare's? Ooops. It must seem a miserable life right now what with all that lifetime's worth of Commie propaganda coming to nought. Warm regards, r
Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza: The silence of GBA is frightening
> > From: Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza: The silence of GBA is > > What's that Hindi colloquialism: "Choron ko sare > nazar aate hain chor?" Hello Vidhyadhar, > Seems more like Urdu / earlier Hindustani : ) Someone translate this into Konknni please, I mean in a classic way. venantius
Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza: The silence of GBA is frightening,
> From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This is why some of us admire Soter, FN. > That he is no liege boy to any party > or politician, Unlike some people we know, who are acolytes and worshippers at the shrine of a particular politician and party? And who, in a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black, keep accusing others of this? What's that Hindi colloquialism: "Choron ko sare nazar aate hain chor?" Oh, there I slip into ghanti-speak again, but kya karen, some of us are like that only, coming as we do from the 'stinking toilet called India' that lies beyond Goa. Please to forgive. > that his allegiance is > first and foremost to his conscience. Good for Soter, I agree with you on this. But sometimes I think life goes round in circles and Soter seems to be travelling that path; what with all the desperate wooing that's going on, he must be finding it tough to resist. In that context, FN's post was very relevant. -- Question everything -- Karl Marx
Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza: The silence of GBA is frightening
I wish you could walk the talk RP!! Regards to you too.. Seb From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This is why some of us admire Soter, FN. > That he is no liege boy to any party > or politician, that his allegiance is > first and foremost to his conscience. > If only you would learn a thing or two > from Soter... > > Regards, > > > r > > > Frederick Noronha wrote: > >While Soter is in the news... reproducing a six-year-old interview > >with him... --FN > > > 2008/4/22 Vivian A. DSouza : > > > This is indeed a cause for concern. Has the GBA been compromised or bought out for > > 30 pieces of silver ? If Soter who is a core member of the GBA does not > > know what is going on, who does ? Where are all the other stalwarts of the GBA? Sad indeed. > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00985.html >
Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza: The silence of GBA is frightening
This is why some of us admire Soter, FN. That he is no liege boy to any party or politician, that his allegiance is first and foremost to his conscience. If only you would learn a thing or two from Soter... Regards, r Frederick Noronha wrote: >While Soter is in the news... reproducing a six-year-old interview >with him... --FN 2008/4/22 Vivian A. DSouza : > This is indeed a cause for concern. Has the GBA been compromised or bought > out for > 30 pieces of silver ? If Soter who is a core member of the GBA does not > know what is going on, who does ? Where are all the other stalwarts of the > GBA? Sad indeed. > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00985.html
Re: [Goanet] Soter D'Souza: The silence of GBA is frightening
While Soter is in the news... reproducing a six-year-old interview with him... --FN 2008/4/22 Vivian A. DSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is indeed a cause for concern. Has the GBA been compromised or bought > out for > 30 pieces of silver ? If Soter who is a core member of the GBA does not > know what is going on, who does ? Where are all the other stalwarts of the > GBA? Sad indeed. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00985.html TEN QUESTIONS: Originally put out on 21May2002 MINORITIES TOTALLY EXPLOITED BY GOA'S POLITICAL PARTIES-Soter D'Souza TILL A FEW days back, Porvorim-based Soter D'Souza (42) was the general secretary of the BJP's Minority Morcha, the 'minority' front of Goa's ruling party. In a chat with FREDERICK NORONHA, he explains why he quit the post, just before a critical Goa elections. FN: What prompted you to quit the BJP and it Minority Morcha? Minorities were not being taken seriously. All the more, the Gujarat riots and certain local incidents (not just the Socorro Muslim prayer hall arson but two other unreported incidents) had led me to review my relations with the BJP. FN: What led you to join it in 1998? The failure of the Congress, both nationally and locally, created a void. I came in contact with (Goa chief minister) Manohar Parrikar and getting to know his vision and attributes. I saw some hope for Goa and Goans. FN: How would you rate Parrikar today? I still feel he has administrative abilities and discipline. But certain compulsions of politics perhaps influenced his decision-making process. The zeal with which he started his tenure, specially his fight against corruption and other illegalities, has almost died out. FN: Looking back, what was the BJP's main achivements and failures in this period? Initially, the BJP was able to show that corruption could be curtailed. Discipline in government administration was another plus. Even the Dayanand Social Security Scheme was a good venture, but it was stretched too much for political reasons. On the other hand, the drive against corruption was not total, leading people to feel that only political opponents were targetted. Instead of contempt for the corrupt politicians, people started sympathising with them. There was not enough effort to break the communal or fundamental image that has been painted of the BJP by the Opposition. In fact, certain incidents have only further substantiated this. FN: In your view, how should the BJP be dealing with the minorities? Unless the BJP seriously reviews its opinions and approaches towards all sections of the minorities, then it cannot be trusted. FN: What is your view of communalism within the minorities? Actually, I do not favour a thinking based on minority lines. It not only sends out a wrong signal, but is also a sort of an inferiority lable. It acts as a means for certain politicians to corner votes. On the other hand, it is also for the majority community to give up their attempts to form communal cliques. It's a two way process; when minorities feel secure, that's the time they will maybe change. FN: As someone who studied for priesthood, what do you feel should be the role of priests, when it comes to politics? A priest should not impose his ideas. Whatever evolves from the democratic process, he should learn to accept it. They should also encourage voters to support good, efficient and sincere candidates, regardless of religious affiliation. Some priests lack in exposure to the feelings and thinking of the majority community. FN: What do you see as in store for the BJP in Goa? If the BJP does not do serious soul-searching to recognise its shortcomings, they're heading towards political rejection. If they do seriously review their strategies and ideologies, they could still hold promise to this state and the country because of their work ethics, discipline and cadre. FN: What's the involvement of minorities in politics in Goa today? The minorities in Goa are totally divided. As a result they have been exploited by political parties. They have allowed themselves to be taken for granted. Many decisions taken by the minorites too might have not been rational, but emotional. Any alternative in Goa should not be built on majority-minority lines. The times require all peace-loving Goans -- from whatever community -- to come together and prevent disruptive forces from getting hold of the political and social fabric. FN: Your reading of the Gujarat carnage on the Goa polls? Although some political parties claim the Gujarat riots will not have an impact on the election results, I beg to differ. The nervourness from some quarters is forcing them to involve Section 153(A) of the
[Goanet] Soter D'Souza: The silence of GBA is frightening
This is indeed a cause for concern. Has the GBA been compromised or bought out for 30 pieces of silver ? If Soter who is a core member of the GBA does not know what is going on, who does ? Where are all the other stalwarts of the GBA ? Sad indeed. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Goanet] Soter D'Souza: The Silence of GBA is Frightening
To Goanet - ** Soter D'Souza GBA Core Team Member THE SILENCE OF GBA IS FRIGHTENING We the People need to Know. We the People are no shit. With the interim report on the RP 2021 due to be out any moment there are several questions the Goa Bachao Abhiyan needs to answer considering that it was formed to ensure that the RP for Goa follows the basic requisites of planning. 1. What is the GBA's position about the Goa Regulation of Land Development And Building Construction) Bill 2008 which seeks to take away the controls of the Panchayats and Municipalities over construction matters. Under this Act the land development and construction rules will be decided under a seperate Act and imposed on the local bodies. While the builders will stand to benefit, the people in the villages are bound to be the losers. This is exactly the issue over which the people of Carmona, Benaulim, Aldona and Siridao are battling against. Who decides what development is good and the extent of development to take place in Goa's villages? When the issue was raised at a GBA meeting it was promised that legal opinion would be taken on this matter. This was when the first ordinance was promulgated almost 6 months ago. Subsequently, a second ordinance was issued. And now the Bill has been passed but there is no sign of any opinion as yet. One definitely would like to know where GBA stands on this matter? 2. It is over a forthnight ago that the Goa Town And Country Planning (Amendment) Bill, 2008 was passed. Besides a press note protesting against the amendments of section 16 and 16A there has been no further action on this matter. Where does GBA stand as far as this matter is concerned? 3. There was an almost unanimous opinion that the TCP Act 1975 in its present form could not be accepted, more so in light of the 73rd and 74th Constitutional Amendments. What has GBA done to ensure that the TCP Act is either repealed or suitably amended to ensure that Goa's village resources are protected from prowling real estate developers? 4. Article 243ZD of the Constitution requires that planning in the jurisdiction of local bodies be carried out through District Planning Committees. The DPCs are in place but no duties have been assigned to them. It appears that the RP 2021 is going to be formulated without the participation of the DPCs in the planning process, which in other words means without the involvement of Village Panchayats in the planning policy of the State. Where does GBA stand in regards to this? 5. The destruction of hill slopes and other environmentally sensitive zones continues to occur in several villages at the behest of real estate developers. What has the GBA done to influence government policy on this matter? 6. The ODPs are being formulated even while the RP 2021 is yet to be formulated. Planners are of the firm opinion that ODPs are but a magnified reflection of the RP. Who are the builders and planners on the TF who are advocating that ODPs have nothing to do with the RP? What is GBA's view on the on-going process of preparing ODPs? The people of Goa definitely need to know what is the progress on these above mentioned fronts which are all linked to the TCP Act and the Regional Plan and the constitutionally assigned tasks of people's participation in the planning process. More so in the event that GBA has passionately taken up a new subject of mining recently. Does it mean that the purpose for which it was formed, namely people's role in the RP planning process for conserving Goa has been accomplished? Soter D'Souza GBA Core Team Member **
