Re: [Goanet] The Hijab Controversy - A College Professor Writes

2022-02-10 Thread Venantius J Pinto
A full hijab?!
Were those wearing hijabs covering their faces? Covering the hair is a
whole other thing, and likewise not revealing the contours of the body.
That goes if need be for any woman. And I am beyond radical. Someone should
write on purdah which was common with aristocratic and even common women.

vjp

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 1:08 PM Roland Francis 
wrote:

> I taught in a premier women's college in Bangalore for most of my teaching
> career.
>
> In my classroom, there were Hindu girls who wore their bindis, sacred ash,
> holy threads on their wrists etc. There were also Hindu girls in Western
> clothing who came out in all their ethnic beauty for Ethnic Day and the
> next day came to class in jeans and t-shirts.
>
> On Onam, the whole college campus was a sea of beautiful cream and gold
> saris and jasmine flowers and sandal paste tilaks. Even the non-Malyalis
> like myself looked forward to turning out in our saris and mundus and we
> would order in Onam Saadya and enjoy it in the department during lunch
> break.
>
> I have three beautiful Onam saris hanging in my wardrobe as reminders of
> those happy days of the past.
>
> It was the same during Sankranthi...the driveway and corridors would be
> decorated with beautiful rangolis. For Ugadi, one of my Department members,
> knowing my fondness for the traditional til- kadlai- jaggery- sugar candy
> mix, would make sure she brought an extra little packet of it for me.
>
> There were Muslim girls, many of them in jeans and kurtis / salwar-kameez
> etc and also many who wore the full hijab.
>
> Many of them who did not wear the hijab could be seen, especially during
> Ramzan namaaz,  covering their heads with their dupattas when they heard
> the call to prayer...right in the middle of a lecture.
>
> It was no big deal.
>
> In fact, if and when I did happen to notice it while teaching, something
> in me felt a deep respect for those small signs of reverence for their
> prayer time that they showed in just covering their heads.
> None of their fellow students, and, as far as I know, none of us teachers
> were disturbed by it.
> It was just the thing they did and we respected that.
>
> In the same classroom, student nuns could be seen wearing either the sari
> or the habit and veil, and all of them wearing a crucifix.
> Christian students often wore a cross or rosary around their necks.
>
> On Ash Wednesday you could tell who the Catholics were by the cross of
> ashes on their foreheads.
>
> And ...they/ we all shared the same space, the same laughter, the same
> exam stress, the same enjoyment of fests, the same boredom during boring
> lectures and the same interest during good ones.
>
> They / we all dived enthusiastically into each others' lunch boxes to
> sample different cuisines from different backgrounds.
> They/ we sat at the same tables in the cafeteria and simply enjoyed being
> together.
> From the happy, raucous laughter and palpable sense of youthful joy, I
> doubt many / any  were discussing religion.
>
> The food fests were the BEST.
> You would have the popular chaat stalls, the much sought after biryani
> counters, where mutton, chicken and veg biryani were available, the kaati
> roll counters were hugely popular too, as were the momo counters run by the
> sweet and gentle students from the North -East.
>
> With Hindus , Sikhs, Muslims, Christians,  Jains, and those who didn't
> specifically adhere to any religious belief or symbolism sharing the same
> benches, imbibing the same knowledge, while sporting their different
> traditional dresses and religious symbols (or no obvious symbol at all),
> our classrooms were mini melting-pots of Indian diversity.
> And it was WONDERFUL.
>
> Our teaching and non-teaching departments were made up of men and women
> who worked together as colleagues and team-mates, even as most of us wore
> some symbol of our personal religious beliefs, even if it were just a
> wedding ring on the left hand or a mangalsutra..
>
> So many non-Catholic and non-Christian lecturers and students would attend
> the Christian prayer service / Mass celebrated on campus for special
> occasions.
>
> And they attended by choice, and with great reverence, many even covering
> their heads with their dupattas/ saris while that was not and is not
> required even of those of us who were / are Christian.
> We simply respected each other.
>
> Why is all this becoming so important now...why are we marking each other
> by religion and caste etc?
>
> When did we stop respecting the fact that as Indians we are the same
> despite our differences of faith and ethnicity?
> When did we start taking offence more often than giving respect?
>
> I just posted this comment of mine on a public page which has carried a
> report on this ongoing, nonsensical non-issue of Muslim girls and their
> right to wear the headscarf/hijab to school.
> I copy-pasted it here.
>
> I expect to be trolled, on the other page, for this comment.
> And undoubtedly, 

[Goanet] The Hijab Controversy - A College Professor Writes

2022-02-10 Thread Roland Francis
I taught in a premier women's college in Bangalore for most of my teaching 
career.

In my classroom, there were Hindu girls who wore their bindis, sacred ash, holy 
threads on their wrists etc. There were also Hindu girls in Western clothing 
who came out in all their ethnic beauty for Ethnic Day and the next day came to 
class in jeans and t-shirts.

On Onam, the whole college campus was a sea of beautiful cream and gold saris 
and jasmine flowers and sandal paste tilaks. Even the non-Malyalis like myself 
looked forward to turning out in our saris and mundus and we would order in 
Onam Saadya and enjoy it in the department during lunch break.

I have three beautiful Onam saris hanging in my wardrobe as reminders of those 
happy days of the past.

It was the same during Sankranthi...the driveway and corridors would be 
decorated with beautiful rangolis. For Ugadi, one of my Department members, 
knowing my fondness for the traditional til- kadlai- jaggery- sugar candy mix, 
would make sure she brought an extra little packet of it for me.

There were Muslim girls, many of them in jeans and kurtis / salwar-kameez etc 
and also many who wore the full hijab. 

Many of them who did not wear the hijab could be seen, especially during Ramzan 
namaaz,  covering their heads with their dupattas when they heard the call to 
prayer...right in the middle of a lecture. 

It was no big deal. 

In fact, if and when I did happen to notice it while teaching, something in me 
felt a deep respect for those small signs of reverence for their prayer time 
that they showed in just covering their heads. 
None of their fellow students, and, as far as I know, none of us teachers were 
disturbed by it. 
It was just the thing they did and we respected that.

In the same classroom, student nuns could be seen wearing either the sari or 
the habit and veil, and all of them wearing a crucifix.
Christian students often wore a cross or rosary around their necks.

On Ash Wednesday you could tell who the Catholics were by the cross of ashes on 
their foreheads.

And ...they/ we all shared the same space, the same laughter, the same exam 
stress, the same enjoyment of fests, the same boredom during boring lectures 
and the same interest during good ones.

They / we all dived enthusiastically into each others' lunch boxes to sample 
different cuisines from different backgrounds.
They/ we sat at the same tables in the cafeteria and simply enjoyed being 
together.
From the happy, raucous laughter and palpable sense of youthful joy, I doubt 
many / any  were discussing religion.

The food fests were the BEST.
You would have the popular chaat stalls, the much sought after biryani 
counters, where mutton, chicken and veg biryani were available, the kaati roll 
counters were hugely popular too, as were the momo counters run by the sweet 
and gentle students from the North -East.

With Hindus , Sikhs, Muslims, Christians,  Jains, and those who didn't 
specifically adhere to any religious belief or symbolism sharing the same 
benches, imbibing the same knowledge, while sporting their different 
traditional dresses and religious symbols (or no obvious symbol at all),  our 
classrooms were mini melting-pots of Indian diversity. 
And it was WONDERFUL.

Our teaching and non-teaching departments were made up of men and women who 
worked together as colleagues and team-mates, even as most of us wore some 
symbol of our personal religious beliefs, even if it were just a wedding ring 
on the left hand or a mangalsutra..

So many non-Catholic and non-Christian lecturers and students would attend the 
Christian prayer service / Mass celebrated on campus for special occasions. 

And they attended by choice, and with great reverence, many even covering their 
heads with their dupattas/ saris while that was not and is not required even of 
those of us who were / are Christian.
We simply respected each other.

Why is all this becoming so important now...why are we marking each other by 
religion and caste etc?

When did we stop respecting the fact that as Indians we are the same despite 
our differences of faith and ethnicity?
When did we start taking offence more often than giving respect?

I just posted this comment of mine on a public page which has carried a report 
on this ongoing, nonsensical non-issue of Muslim girls and their right to wear 
the headscarf/hijab to school.
I copy-pasted it here.

I expect to be trolled, on the other page, for this comment.
And undoubtedly, crudely, as has been done in the past, on that same page, both 
for my name and the image that is my profile pic. 

It's ok.
That too is an insight into this idea of "New India".

Roland.
Toronto.