[Goanet] There's more democracy in Goa???

2011-02-15 Thread Melvyn Ferrao
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Theres-more/articleshow/7490486.cms



Part of this news item does not make sense. Babush takes care of his voters
by getting them out of trouble by paying money even if they have committed a
crime. Is this democracy?



I can understand the part which talks about Manohar Parrikar doing good work
for Panjim and Digambar Kamat being available on phone.



But this??? This is corruption and should be titled There's more corruption
in Goa.



-Melvyn Ferrao


Re: [Goanet] There's more democracy in Goa

2011-02-14 Thread rajendra kakodkar
Dear Mauricio,
 
Your understanding of Curchorem agitation in itself is completely flawed and 
when the base is wrong what to say of the inferance?
 
1) You said: Ganv Rakhan Manch is demanding the scrapping of the proposal to 
expand the highway that connects the mining belt to Mormugao port to four-lane 
for transportation of iron ore.
Ans: This is incorrect. There is no proposal at all to 4-lane highway that 
connects the mining belt to Mormugao port. 
GRJM is objecting 4-laning of road from Tilamol to Curchorem (connecting mines 
to Zuari)because it passes through thickly populated area where 3 people 
reside and 1 students commute twice a day. 
 
2) 4-laning opposed by Curcorem municipality, Xeldem gramsabha during last two 
years. 540 people filed objections with Collector, CM six months back. Entire 
village committee opposed in Regional Plan meeting three years ago. 
Government/House committee opposed 12 years ago. High court passes strictures 
10 years ago. Even then Government going ahead. WHAT DEMOCRACY?
 
3) If you see the road on Sundays, rainy season (no minig traffic) the road 
looks deserted. If mining traffic diverts, existing width sufficient for next 
20 years. PWD says that widening is not their priority. They took up widening 
only because local MLA (a mining transport contractor) is forcing. An MLA has 
only legislative power. PWD is awarding him executive power. When asked, CM 
says he is in power do what you want. WHAT DEMOCRACY? 
 
3) Curchorem connects Margao by two roads: State highway (SH-6) via Chandor and 
district road (MDR-40) via Tilamol. Giving priority to district road over State 
highway: is it not retograde policy? SH-6 is 7 km shorter than MDR-40. By 
widening MDR-40 and making people travel extra 7 km wastes fuel worth Rs 6 
crore every year (and equivalent foreign exchange) and wear and tear of Rs 4 cr 
a year. VIVA DEMOCRACY?
 
4) CM yielded only to buy time. Agitators also made it clear that they will 
target his profits and his votes. He is foxy and knows if he doesn't bow now 
his transport may stop right now. See in June, when his mining traffic stops. 
He will dump assurances at Sonsodo. TRUE DEMON-CRACY: Of Digu, By Digu, For 
Digu + 40 chors + miners + builders. 
 
Rajendra
PS; I am sending you separately complete dossier of the GRJM agitation. It 
pains that nij-Goekars can be so ignorant and mis-informed. I can take up 
visits for interested people a tour of mining belt on Satudays. Please contact 
by e-mail.
 
 
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 Mauricio Pereira wrote:

People's power is true democracy. And the voter is king. For the couple of 
months that I have seen in Goa, and from interactions with activists and urban 
villagers, Goans stand apart. Their sentiments are very strong. They have a say 
in the way they are governed. And their political leaders bow to them. There 
have been many instances to support this argument. The latest is the protests 
of the Curchorem residents led by Ghanv Rakhon Jagrut Manch marching to chief 
minister Digambar Kamat's residence in Margao demanding the scrapping of the 
proposal to expand the highway that connects the mining belt to Mormugao port 
to four-lane for transportation of iron ore, mainly being exported to Japan and 
China. The state highway connects Sanvordem and Curchorem in the Quepem-Sanguem 
talukas in Goa. The locals instead want the government to expedite land 
acquisition proceedings for the proposed 19 km Uguem-Capxem mining bypass, 
which can connect to the Zuari river
 from where the iron ore could be transported by barges to Mormugao port.




Re: [Goanet] There's more democracy in Goa

2011-02-14 Thread Carmen Miranda

Mr Pereira,

More democracy in Goa?! No! theres is no democracy in Goa. Give me a 
break!!!
Democracy is more than corrupt politicians sorting out traffic incidents 
of  "their own voters" , with money "from their own pockets" that in any 
case have been filled with bribes from their  own voters and other 
people's voters and much corruption and extortion - that is why these 
politicians in Goa are all so wealthy, and wealth that has certainly not 
come as result of hard honest work, nor from their salaries as MLA and 
Ministers of Goa government and this is common knowledge.


A Minister is voted to look after the interests of all citizens and not 
just that of their own "voters"  - that is democracy.


Corruption seems to be in the DNA of Goa government and administration. 
 Unfortunately corruption has been taken for granted, and  I feel  is 
now part of the local culture and it seems  that more and more people 
can no longer distinguish between right and wrong, rule of law and 
democracy and total shambles .


The CM , Churchill Alemao and Babush and all the rest of them will of 
course promise heaven and earth to protesters to shut them up, 
especially as elections approach. Promises are just promises.  There 
is a big difference between sorting out the power supply one night in 
some corner of Goa, or  sending a bus to collect stranded passengers - 
there is a difference between that and real governance like stopping all 
the illegal mining in Goa, or scrapping grandiose plans imposed by the 
mining lobby, or stopping the builders from ruining Goa, or cleaning up 
the increadible and growing garbage problem, shortage of water, 
destruction of agriculture and a long rosary of other important issues 
in Goa.


No Mr Pereira, what you describe is not democracy, but just pure 
hipocrisy and distraction from real serious issues in Goa.


Yes there is the beginning of civil unrest in Goa, and I hope soon will 
develop into popular action like in Tunisia and Egypt.


Finally more and more people are beginning to wake up and are up in arms 
fighting for justice, fighting against illegal plans in their villages 
and towns, and trying to protect what is left of Goa from being sold 
out, destroyed and devastated by ill conceived projects. If they 
eventually begin to win their battles, and see some concrete measures 
and actions, then yes, there will be a beginning of democracy in Goa.


Carmen Miranda



Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:30:56 +
From: Mauricio Pereira

People's power is true democracy. And the voter is king. For the couple 
of months that I have seen in Goa, and from interactions with activists 
and urban villagers, Goans stand apart. Their sentiments are very 
strong. They have a say in the way they are governed. And their 
political leaders bow to them. There have been many instances to support 
this argument.


The latest is the protests of the Curchorem residents led by Ghanv 
Rakhon Jagrut Manch marching to chief minister Digambar Kamat's 
residence in Margao demanding the scrapping of the proposal to expand 
the highway that connects the mining belt to Mormugao port to four-lane 
for transportation of iron ore, mainly being exported to Japan and 
China. The state highway connects Sanvordem and Curchorem in the 
Quepem-Sanguem talukas in Goa. The locals instead want the government to 
expedite land acquisition proceedings for the proposed 19 km 
Uguem-Capxem mining bypass, which can connect to the Zuari river from 
where the iron ore could be transported by barges to Mormugao port.


[Goanet] There's more democracy in Goa

2011-02-14 Thread Mauricio Pereira

People's power is true democracy. And the voter is king. For the couple of 
months that I have seen in Goa, and from interactions with activists and urban 
villagers, Goans stand apart. Their sentiments are very strong. They have a say 
in the way they are governed. And their political leaders bow to them. There 
have been many instances to support this argument. 

The latest is the protests of the Curchorem residents led by Ghanv Rakhon 
Jagrut Manch marching to chief minister Digambar Kamat's residence in Margao 
demanding the scrapping of the proposal to expand the highway that connects the 
mining belt to Mormugao port to four-lane for transportation of iron ore, 
mainly being exported to Japan and China. The state highway connects Sanvordem 
and Curchorem in the Quepem-Sanguem talukas in Goa. The locals instead want the 
government to expedite land acquisition proceedings for the proposed 19 km 
Uguem-Capxem mining bypass, which can connect to the Zuari river from where the 
iron ore could be transported by barges to Mormugao port. 

Their reasoning is that the highway is already highly polluted and many 
accidents take place on the road. They do not want mixing up of mining trucks 
on the road and more traffic. 

The CM immediately called a representative team of the protestors for dialogue 
to his official residence in Panaji and assured the residents that the 
government would pursue the bypass and keep the four-lane road expansion in 
abeyance. 

Such responsiveness to people's demands rarely happens in India, where chief 
ministers are not accessible to their people. And most assurances are made only 
to be broken much sooner than later. The Janata darshans in most state capitals 
are farcical exercises just to gain some publicity. 

Residents of various villages in Goa have been protesting and taking out 
morchas demanding various things on the same issue and the government gives all 
groups a patient hearing. 

These are not the only issues on which one is basing an argument about true 
democracy being practiced in Goa. There have been many occasions when people 
have directly called up the chief minister or ministers concerned to get their 
grievances addressed. On several occasions, the CM and the ministers have got 
calls on their mobile phones even at midnight telling them that their locality 
does not have power supply. The political rulers have acted on such complaints 
immediately and got power restored to the localities. During a chat, Digambar 
Kamat argued that there may be several problems of the people. Their children 
may be studying for an exam, or somebody in the house may be ill. "How do you 
expect the children to study for their exams if there are power cuts?" he said. 

Do other CM's of our great nation think like that? Can people even get through 
the offices of chief ministers of Maharashtra or Uttar Pradesh? Or can they 
access chief ministers of Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh or Karnataka? 

Goa may be a small state, but the fact that the CM is accessible to the people 
on a cellphone in the middle of the night augers well for the society. 

On one occasion, a state transport bus broke down past midnight between Belgaum 
(in Karnataka) and Margao (in Goa). The bus passengers tried contacting 
officials to get help from the middle of the dense ghat section. Luckily, one 
of them had the mobile number of the Goa CM and he decided to call him for 
help. The state government immediately swung into action making arrangements 
for an alternative bus from Belgaum to reach the spot and pick up the harassed 
passengers. 

Another minister, Atanasio 'Babush' Monserrate goes out of the way to protect 
his voters. There was one incidence that a driver of a cab agency told me. When 
he was driving on the highway, another vehicle, a two-wheeler, crashed into the 
travel agency car. 

There was a crowd immediately around and arguments were on. Babush, as he is 
popularly known in Goa, happened to witness the accident. The minister got off 
his car, went up to the cab driver and told him that the two-wheeler rider 
involved in the accident was his voter and hence he (the minister) would pay up 
whatever was the cost of damage to the travel agency vehicle. "Just leave him 
alone and don't trouble him. Bring me the bill and collect the money," Babush 
is said to have told the driver. The bill came to Rs 21,000. 

So the driver after getting the damage repaired went to Babush with the bill, 
and the minister without asking any questions gave the cash. And so does 
another minister Churchill Alemao, who goes to any extent in south Goa to 
protect his voters. 

People across communities give credit to the work done by opposition leader and 
former chief minister Manohar Parrikar of the BJP in Panaji constituency. 

"Parrikar does not spend money like some of the other ministers do from his 
pocket, but the work he has done shows in Panaji," say most Goans. Go Goa, 
people's power is supreme.