Re: [Goanet] Updates on Goans in East Africa dates

2008-07-16 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या
Hi Tony (and Cornel too):

I just copy-and-pasted this stuff from Goacom.com. It neither originates
from my computer, brain, or hardwork!

As someone said recently on Goanet, I'm pretty efficient in this
copy-and-paste stuff. When it comes to sharing knowledge (or information), I
don't think see any hierarchy ... as long as it's effective and due credits
were given.

Let's now collectively prevail on GoaCom to update that page with the
additional inputs you sent in, and whatever others might add too.

May the tribe of cut-and-paste artistes grow universally :-) FN

2008/7/16 Tony Barros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi Frederick !
>
> Thanks very much for giving us a taste of nostalgia and sending us down
> memory lane. However, I have added some dates on Tanganyika and
> Zanzibar which may be of interest to other readers.
>

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Re: [Goanet] Updates on Goans in East Africa dates

2008-07-16 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Tony
I had meant to mention with reference to one of your
recent posts about musicians in East Africa, 
including the origins of Maliaka in Mombasa etc that,
the night club you mentioned "The Sal Davis Nite Spot"
in Nairobi, was owned and run by someone who attended
my school (The Goan High School) in Mombasa. We knew
him then as Salim Abdalla and indeed I have a
professionally taken photograph of the first school
orchestra, with a little Salim on the maracas! I had
sent a copy of that photograph, with a requested 
article of mine, about my school experiences, for the 
brochure when the Goan High School, Mombasa,
celebrated its 75th anniversary last year.

I was aware that Sal had spent time in the 1970s in
London, honing in on his singing skills and with a
special interest in Sammy Davies Jr but was unaware,
until you mentioned it that, he had a night club in
Nairobi.

I was lucky to visit all the places you mentioned in
Tanzania including your birth-place in Iringa but
although my amateur dance band (MDB) played at Greek
owned hotels in Tanga twice, I did not get a chance to
visit the Tanga Goan Club that you mentioned.

We sure live in a small world and I too was pleased to
receive Frederick's nostalgic details of Goan
clubs/institutions in East Africa. I have also enjoyed
Roland's material on Goan clubs in Bombay, and Cotton
Mary of course, but  only regret that I didn't know
about such clubs when on several past short visits to
Bombay. 
Regards
Cornel
--- Tony Barros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Frederick ! 
> Thanks very much for giving us a taste of nostalgia
> and sending us down
> memory lane...
 



[Goanet] Updates on Goans in East Africa dates

2008-07-15 Thread Tony Barros
Hi Frederick !

Thanks very much for giving us a taste of nostalgia and sending us down
memory lane. However, I have added some dates on Tanganyika and
Zanzibar which may be of interest to other readers.

1919 - The Goan Institute in Dar es Salaam takes shape

1956 - The Goan School opens in Changombe on the outskirts of the city

1956- The Goan Community Club is formed in the southern Tanzanian town
of Iringa- my birthplace

1958 - Goan club formed in Morogoro - near Dar Es Salaam

1959/1960- The Goan Institute in Dar moves into a new building opened
by Tanganyika's last Governor, Sir Richard Turnbull. Designed by the
distinguished goan architect, Tony Almeida who also designed the Goan
School, the building incorporated a  unique open "sunken" dance floor in 
addition to the main dance hall.

December 10, 1963- The Sultanate of Zanzibar gets "sham" independence  from 
Britain after a political party that did not win the elections "grabs"
political power.

December 12, 1963- Kenya celebrates independence

January 12, 1964 - an armed  Revolution in Zanzibar and Pemba brings
the winning   Afro-Shirazi Party (ASP) to power.

April 26, 1964 -  The Spice Islands of  Zanzibar and Pemba merge with
Tanganyika  to form a Union called Tanzania  

Unfortunately, I do not know when the goan clubs in Tanga, Arusha, Moshi,
Mwanza and Zanzibar were formed, and I hope some other goanetters from Tanzania 
can fill in those dates.

rgds.

Tony Barros.
Union, New Jersey.
U . S . A